Amazon accuses customer of racism & shuts down their smart home - enough cloud junk

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Louis Rossmann

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@rossmanngroup
@rossmanngroup Жыл бұрын
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@nymaksco1835
@nymaksco1835 Жыл бұрын
Why use all the foul language!? 🙄
@donreed
@donreed Жыл бұрын
This is going to be the best thing that ever happened to you. Now, sue Amazon for $1,000,000,000. That's right. One billion dollars. Do it for yourself, and for all of us who have been screwed by the Amazholes. Thank you.
@lullaby218
@lullaby218 Жыл бұрын
I am retrograding. Only pre-2000s tech.
@andrewpal
@andrewpal Жыл бұрын
​@@donreed Amazon is an overgrown evil giant with foreigners owning Americans over the phone. Boy do they enjoy buying counterfeit goods and selling them to us too.
@jonnym4670
@jonnym4670 Жыл бұрын
thank god i don't need amason for anything any after remove my cards they still charged me for prime and have been charging i removed my cards again but they will most likely still charge them for a service i don't use but thats one thing to hear how petty they are glad i never used them
@reiisthebestgirl
@reiisthebestgirl Жыл бұрын
Getting your home cancelled for possibly racist doorbell is the most current year thing i've heard.
@sihamhamda47
@sihamhamda47 Жыл бұрын
Time to go back into simple 90s style HOUSE which doesn't have any kind of "smart home" devices and we're free from those stupid, messed up things
@shadowmystery5613
@shadowmystery5613 Жыл бұрын
That's nothing new, you can even get banned from services just for living in the wrong place. This story about that guy banned from XBox Live is sooooo memorable - he had to prove to Microsoft he's really living in a place called Fucktown, Ohio or something 😂
@KirkFickert
@KirkFickert Жыл бұрын
@@sihamhamda47 Wait until you are required to have a smart meter and they can decide you've used enough A/C this month...
@CMDR_bravoMike
@CMDR_bravoMike Жыл бұрын
@@KirkFickert In the future, everyone will have an electric car in their drive way and a heat pump in their house and then they'll get to freeze and walk to work.
@fyt54321
@fyt54321 Жыл бұрын
"possibly racist doorbell" ... Coming in 2024 from the Daily Wire Digital Shop.
@tayzonday
@tayzonday Жыл бұрын
My Amazon “community privileges” got suspended for “racism” after I correctly told a Chinese air filter company that their product was garbage. They false-flagged my review for racism. My review was not racist in any way. Suddenly, twenty years of my Amazon reviews (including long essays on academic books) got deleted 😳
@Prohxyy
@Prohxyy Жыл бұрын
That's absolutely wild, dude
@HerrDerpington
@HerrDerpington Жыл бұрын
This is both horrifying and surreal.
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. Жыл бұрын
From Chocolate Rain to obvious racism. Oh how the mighty fall….. Jk
@MamaMOB
@MamaMOB Жыл бұрын
They canceled the amazing man who lip synced to chocolate rain?! How dare they! And I know that sounds sarcastic but I'm not being sarcastic.
@giiysutsputs
@giiysutsputs Жыл бұрын
Don't let up, when someone calls chocolate rain racist. 😂 its inevitable.
@noonyabeezniss4911
@noonyabeezniss4911 Жыл бұрын
Last I checked, Amazon treats it's employees worse than the doorbell Hahahahaha They should be sued for this and pushed for some form of charges
@ronn68
@ronn68 Жыл бұрын
I fell into the tech trap a few years ago and thought it was so cool to have Alexa running things in the house. Alexa progressively became more intrusive, responding to conversations in the house more and more frequently. After doing some research I realized it was listening all the time , not just when I said “Hey Alexa”. Got rid of everything.
@crossbow7398
@crossbow7398 Жыл бұрын
It _has_ to "always listen" anyway, otherwise it wouldn't hear when you say "Hey Alexa". And even if it didn't send your conversations to Amazon, the feds, etc. (funny idea, I know), people could still find exploits or Amazon could just send out an update to then spy on you.
@Mariet31
@Mariet31 Жыл бұрын
Apparently someone didn't know there is a literal bottom to mute the device... it only records whenever it thinks you said Alexa. You people don't seem to understand that it is impossible to record everything as it is extremely expensive. Btw, your phone has the same issue, you dummy.. BUT it depends on which apps you have installed that will wait for specific words to record. This is the reason why I prefer Android, so I can block rhe microphone permissions in every app
@sebgamingkid
@sebgamingkid Жыл бұрын
​@@Mariet31 It's expensive to record everything, but it's not expensive to record the important bits. It'll be cheap If it's locally stored on the device in primary storage (RAM) for local processing, where it can filter out what it thinks is important and can then be sent to the actual cloud for real data analysis and further processing.
@BlairdBlaird
@BlairdBlaird Жыл бұрын
@@Mariet31 it is absolutely possible to record everything. A modern codec like Opus will give you decent wide-band recording at 64kbps, which is 700MB/day, or 252GB/year. If you only want human voice and don't mind some quality degradation, dedicated codecs will do the trick at a quarter or even an eigth. You probably don't want to *store* everything long term (you'd want to filter, process, and classify it quickly, storing infinite amounts of data you don't do anything with is a waste of money) but even that is not completely out of reach for state-level actors: at 64kbps you would need about 100EB to store the recording of every *individual* in the US 24h/day, 365 days/year. 100EB is about the estimates I've seen for Amazon's total storage capacity. More realistically you'd probably start on a household basis (131 million), and only a fraction of those would even be of interest.
@2AFreeState
@2AFreeState Жыл бұрын
Yeah, of course it was listening to everything. If it wasn't, then how would it know if you said "Hey Alexa." or not? I'm sorry if that comes out as insensitive but I don't know how else to put it.
@dougray30
@dougray30 Жыл бұрын
The saddest part of this story isn't what happened. It's that the poor sap is only just "strongly considering" not doing business with Amazon any longer.
@SelectKiko
@SelectKiko Жыл бұрын
Well, to be fair, he's the same kind of dunce that would live in a smart home
@demonvictim
@demonvictim Жыл бұрын
​@No Thanks only canceling? I would sue them for millions of emotional damages and wrongful termination. Even if they said it was in the eula I would make a huge stink just to get that person fired
@johnnyfatsacks5209
@johnnyfatsacks5209 Жыл бұрын
You can't fix stupid.
@snex000
@snex000 Жыл бұрын
Nah it's him saying he agrees with Amazon needing to do this, but only for "the real racists."
@DPedroBoh
@DPedroBoh Жыл бұрын
@@snex000 Right? Oldest tale of all. If amazon defines who are the real racists between their customer base, the guy is just enabling amazon to do it again with other people who are not in fact "real racists".
@henrymach
@henrymach Жыл бұрын
You should also realize that even if the accusation was true, this is no justification to hijack the guy's house
@billyfowler9423
@billyfowler9423 Жыл бұрын
Right, maybe suspend delivery service, but not the whole account. I don't think the word of one person warrants even that. Now if 3 drivers all said the same then maybe.
@curtishand6180
@curtishand6180 Жыл бұрын
​@@billyfowler9423 No need to temper it. The solution can be that the company does nothing at all. It's not up to them to try and shape behaviour
@soliniv1411
@soliniv1411 Жыл бұрын
They do it cuz they can and most likely nothing bad will happen, i bet the guy is still usin his smart home devices 😂
@markarca6360
@markarca6360 Жыл бұрын
​@@soliniv1411 Or switched to another smart home ecosystem altogether.
@fire_drake12.arc.24
@fire_drake12.arc.24 Жыл бұрын
@@markarca6360 unfortunately the guy sounds like an Amazon bootlicker, i doubt he'll switch. He'll forget about it in a month and praise Amazon.
@__-pl3jg
@__-pl3jg Жыл бұрын
Yea, I used to work in construction and one time my boss accused me of stealing something stupid like a box of screws and some caulking because he underestimated how much would be needed for a project and believed the reason we ran out was because I had taken them. No evidence what-so-ever. Turned out the rest of the materials were sitting in the trunk of another guys vehicle. He didn't steal anything, that's just where it was being stored. I tried to have a heartfelt talk with him afterward because I didn't want there to be animosity between us. He wouldn't even discuss the situation and was too spineless to apologize. Instead he tried to pretend like everything was cool and the whole accusing me of a crime was no big deal. I quit working for that moron a week later.
@airthrowDBT
@airthrowDBT Жыл бұрын
Good on you. Personal integrity is apparently extinct and old fashioned now. You make a mistake and accuse someone of something, you apologize, simple as that
@ThreeTreeDog
@ThreeTreeDog Жыл бұрын
Ive been in IT for 20 years, no way in hell im having cloud based devices in my home. My phone tracking me and listening is enough.
@genericcatname9159
@genericcatname9159 Жыл бұрын
If Linux phones end up taking off, hopefully that last part won't happen.
@gargarbad6047
@gargarbad6047 9 ай бұрын
same, why willingfully put listening/recording devices owned by a company to your own house, that's maximum stupid
@ThreeTreeDog
@ThreeTreeDog 9 ай бұрын
@genericcatname9159 the last part is happening, I've had multiple occurrences while talking about something specific with someone in the room that's "off the wall" so to speak, that I have never searched digitally and then magically a ad shows up. I've confirmed others have had this happen also.
@genericcatname9159
@genericcatname9159 9 ай бұрын
@@ThreeTreeDog I know that the last part was likely happening. I was hoping Linux phones take off specifically so there is an alternative that doesn't do this spying.
@ebaystars
@ebaystars 7 ай бұрын
from an engineering standpoint your comment is SAGACIOUS!!!
@rossmanngroup
@rossmanngroup Жыл бұрын
I requested copy of the audio/video recordings & emails prior to posting this and had a talk with Amazon's victim here. Unfortunately, this story is not made up.
@VolkColopatrion
@VolkColopatrion Жыл бұрын
Will there be a lawsuit?
@polarfamily6222
@polarfamily6222 Жыл бұрын
Not too shocked at this. I hope they sue.
@Kaninballen
@Kaninballen Жыл бұрын
Amazon (and BigTech in general) are that drug dealing, abusive stalker "lover". Who gaslights and manipulates and drugs you into staying because "they are the only ones you need" and "got your best interests in mind".
@flynick
@flynick Жыл бұрын
Very little sympathy for someone who installs this junk
@VolkColopatrion
@VolkColopatrion Жыл бұрын
@@polarfamily6222 how are you not shocked at this?
@BCNeil
@BCNeil Жыл бұрын
Even if someone is racist. Companies don't have the right to shut down their property
@Gandhi_Physique
@Gandhi_Physique Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I don't want to be around racist people, but your property or necessities should not be shut off because of your worldview. What's next? You register to vote for the wrong party, and Amazon "protests" against you?
@evanpetelle5669
@evanpetelle5669 Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@justme5384
@justme5384 Жыл бұрын
Correct. It's my some admenenet right to be racist, it's a free country still.
@CyTolliver
@CyTolliver Жыл бұрын
Living in America tends to make one racist - that’s why they have to push *the message* so hard.
@oniondesu9633
@oniondesu9633 Жыл бұрын
they do have that right, we've let them get these rights with no pushback.
@limyrob1383
@limyrob1383 Жыл бұрын
The amazing part of this story is that Amazon gave out a phone number that went to a real person and actually answered it! Astonishing. It took me a week of hard work to get to that stage when the Amazon driver stole my delivery. Had I been able to I would have said a few things highly offensive to the driver but I could only watch on CCTV.
@Ultimateharen
@Ultimateharen Жыл бұрын
In India we receive OTP from Amazon during delivery after giving OTP to delivery person delivery will get complete. No OTP no delivery
@IsaacFoster..
@IsaacFoster.. Жыл бұрын
You shouldn't be giving that much data to a company in the first place. Google, TikTok, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook/Meta... These companies are monetizing every single bit of data you give to them. Be offline as much as you can and cut out your connections to useless services. That's my honest advice.
@Praisethesunson
@Praisethesunson Ай бұрын
Usless? Bro half the companies you listed are monolopies. Their use isn't why they are used. They are used because they stacked the market to make sure they are your only option.
@television9233
@television9233 Жыл бұрын
Having literally parts of you house stop working because a megacorp decides you are no longer worthy is insane.
@sjbechet1111
@sjbechet1111 Жыл бұрын
Not 'insane' - just very badly thought out. George Orwell wrote a warning about a future government having this level of control over people by force and torture. This guy volunteered his subversion for a bunch of $2 gizzmo's made in China that ran his house. It's actually hilarious.
@lcfflc3887
@lcfflc3887 Жыл бұрын
and they guy is not even suing? LOL 🙄 he just like this kind of bad customer service
@Pteromandias
@Pteromandias Жыл бұрын
Aren't you against racism? Isn't it worthwhile for governments and their hired corporate thugs to do everything within their power to stamp it out? Isn't the goal important enough that it's acceptable if a few innocent victims get crushed in the process?
@rps215
@rps215 Жыл бұрын
This is why you don't give them control to your house, they are trying to normalize this.
@johnhoran9840
@johnhoran9840 Жыл бұрын
@@Pteromandias To the radical Left, "racism" is worse than pederasty.
@exotericidymnic3530
@exotericidymnic3530 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice the customer was only mad because the report was false and not because Amazon has the power to steal your property with the click of a button. Edit: this is false and he has clarified his position
@ElJosher
@ElJosher Жыл бұрын
Yup.
@Abhinav_Nayana_Sailen
@Abhinav_Nayana_Sailen Жыл бұрын
No one can con the consoomer, they con themselves
@bobbygetsbanned6049
@bobbygetsbanned6049 Жыл бұрын
@Seanut Arbuckle Exactly! This person has no problem with it, they just don't want it to happen to them because they are so virtuous.
@thehuntermikipl1170
@thehuntermikipl1170 Жыл бұрын
​@Seanut Arbuckle You are just hearing what you want to hear, so you have something to be mad about. He said purchasing ban / delivery restriction would be more appropriate.
@zaneking4355
@zaneking4355 Жыл бұрын
Yeah evn the host of the video keeps pointing out the accusation was false which sort of implies that Amazon's circumventing of the constitution would be ok if it were true.
@cashout8582
@cashout8582 Жыл бұрын
You have absolute balls taking on these corporations. I seriously look up to you man
@lindanorris2455
@lindanorris2455 Ай бұрын
RIGHT ON!
@attaboy8422
@attaboy8422 27 күн бұрын
It doesnt need balls, it needs integrity and common sense. Anyone and everyone should oppose every little shit these companies do because otherwise they can freely do anything without repercusions sooner or later. They are testing us on every step how much we ll let slide and majority lets a lot of things slide even completly ignorant or unaware. Stop being a victim and start to make use of your rights!
@asdf52708
@asdf52708 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Rossmann, you are an incredible person and I'm so glad you're out there fighting the good fight and helping/education the population
@richardbailey6260
@richardbailey6260 Жыл бұрын
"Stop giving money to companies that hate you" never sounded so true.
@OneofInfinity.
@OneofInfinity. Жыл бұрын
Little sheep that can't think for themselves will keep on consuming while proclaiming capitalism is bad. I'd be surprised if those same sheep know how to tie their shoelaces without instructions.
@JBFranny
@JBFranny Жыл бұрын
thinking people hate for no reason at all sounds like paranoia
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Жыл бұрын
​@@JBFranny companies aren't people, that's where you made a mistake.
@wes4736
@wes4736 Жыл бұрын
​@@JBFranny - so? Paranoia developed in us because it is rational to fear the mundane. If we've allowed the mundane to prey on us as we have, paranoia is going to be our natural response.
@markomak1
@markomak1 Жыл бұрын
Companies don't love or hate you. They just want your money. Don't be a fool.
@ffwast
@ffwast Жыл бұрын
A decade ago we joked about this happening because it sounded absurd. Today it actually happened and it didn't even convince him to cancel the service. It feels like I'm taking crazy pills.
@AKUJIVALDO
@AKUJIVALDO Жыл бұрын
​@keine ahnung did they are "tin foil hats" if they're actually right?
@kirkyorg7654
@kirkyorg7654 Жыл бұрын
yup 5 minutes after i found out the reason it was shut down i would have pulled all of it out and binned it
@mgancarzjr
@mgancarzjr Жыл бұрын
Look up Carcinisation. There's a corollary where, eventually, everyone turns into Dale Gribble.
@FamiliarAnomaly
@FamiliarAnomaly Жыл бұрын
They ARE all taking crazy pills
@Pedgo1986
@Pedgo1986 Жыл бұрын
@Jonny Croxville but over time it come to you that idea if you are really surrounded by insanity or you are insane.
@damon22441
@damon22441 Жыл бұрын
People deserve the nightmare they walk into. You don't get to both embrace your surveillance state and not be a victim of it.
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 Жыл бұрын
Huh? The only surveillance by the victim was of his front porch, and he was trying to use video from it to prove his innocence.
@hongmeiling6065
@hongmeiling6065 3 ай бұрын
​@@rosiefay7283He purchases all this smart device shit and off surprised when Amazon takes control. It's one thing to buy a car or a tv without doing due diligence, another to actively pursue these things like it's a hobby. People who consume this shit are bizarre
Ай бұрын
People are all for surveillance and government overreach when it's happening to someone else. They always assume that they will be exempt. That anyone accused of a 'crime' must be guilty and since they themselves are innocent law abiding citizens it would never happen to them. Most tech just makes people lazier, it isn't essential even slightly. We all lived perfectly fine for a long time without it. The future is analog.
@organous8870
@organous8870 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't even considering corporate abuse in my stance to avoid smart home stuff. I'm thinking about just malicious bad actors who hack their way in and target your stuff. But this is a good reason, too.
@s13customs
@s13customs Жыл бұрын
When you give these companies the power to control your life, don't be surprised when they actually do.
@langdons2848
@langdons2848 Жыл бұрын
And people are worried about tHe GoVErnENt controlling them. Corporations will be (are) worse.
@bain5872
@bain5872 Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@altergreenhorn
@altergreenhorn Жыл бұрын
@@Arhimith when enought sheeps join voluntary the rest will be forced
@brentfarvors192
@brentfarvors192 Жыл бұрын
We were WAY PAST THAT over a year ago...
@complexity5545
@complexity5545 Жыл бұрын
This is why I encourage families to have at least one programmer in the family (or someone smart). Its only going to get worse with more population. I think people are learning that the strong individual principles of the the original USA are being surmounted by herd thinkers (and even in programming industry (and that is why this happening)). Its sad to see idiots taking positions of power and positions of the lower ranks; they're everywhere causing more mediocrity. People prefer bad programmers and technicians because they think like them. They'll never see the big picture. They can never conceive it. Most people just want to blend in with their neighbors and co-workers of doing the bare minimum. Then one day, you have a monopoly telling you want you can do, eat, cook, opening your door, who to talk to, who to procreate offspring, and taking a dump. But you're too stupid nor have to time to learn the process. Even the government is making anti-trust and monopolies legal now because the boomer's don't have a clue. The next step will be to remove public libraries.
@billusher2265
@billusher2265 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know what’s worse, how dystopian our society is becoming or how most people seem ok with it
@davidcooke8005
@davidcooke8005 Жыл бұрын
One thing the Plague taught me is just how many people would gleefully turn in Anne Frank. I trust nobody.
@penguinjay
@penguinjay Жыл бұрын
@@davidcooke8005 80% of the sick, scared people out there would have sent YOU AND ME to a literal concentration camp if some authority told them to. Everyone is dangerous at this point. Everyone. They truly showed it.
@drew6194
@drew6194 Жыл бұрын
That's how dystopia take place.
@tf5pZ9H5vcAdBp
@tf5pZ9H5vcAdBp Жыл бұрын
@@davidcooke8005 ...what?
@Digger-Nick
@Digger-Nick Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when leftism goes completely unchecked. Things will never get better
@rikbloemers43
@rikbloemers43 Жыл бұрын
I Boycotted Amazon long ago due to their poor treatment of their employees (me included) They treated me worse once they learned I had Autism. I refuse to use their service, and now that I have a family, my whole family does not use Amazon to purchase anything or use their products.
@Santos.Sarmento
@Santos.Sarmento Жыл бұрын
Everyone is being slowly and steadily surrounded by the enemy and no one is seeing how irreversibly dangerous this is becoming.
@AndrewB383
@AndrewB383 Жыл бұрын
Let's take it a step further. Let's assume he IS a racist (which, amazon clearly did), he wasn't, but let's say he was. How does that give them any right to shut down your home? ABSOLUTE insanity.
@Xander1Sheridan
@Xander1Sheridan Жыл бұрын
You really want to piss them off, tell them racism is protected by the First Amendment. So is hate speech, and any other idiotic term they want to make up. We are not Europe, we have Free speech. Corporations that do this should be boycotted into oblivion. It is sad our government which was supposed to protect individuals from the evil of corporations instead protects the corporations evil.
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 Жыл бұрын
Leftist will argue that yes. He deserves it. We should make society as uncomfortable for Racist to live. This is the Problem with the Liberal mind. It does not operate under normal conventions.
@elimgarak1127
@elimgarak1127 Жыл бұрын
Like it or not, it's freedom of speech. Amazon should be getting dinged for both theft and a 1A infringement, even if he didn't say what they claimed to censor him for. Hundreds of millions in fines.
@bestieswithtesties
@bestieswithtesties Жыл бұрын
@@elimgarak1127 That's not how freedom of speech works buddy. The 1st amendment only protects you from the government. People can't be arrested for just saying things. But "freedom of speech" does Not mean you can just say whatever you want and are protected from any consequences. Especially when you're buying products that require you to agree to a terms of service and things like that. You violate the terms and the company is within their right to respond accordingly to said laid out terms.
@bestieswithtesties
@bestieswithtesties Жыл бұрын
It's not insane at all. Customers agree to a terms of service for the different services that companies provide. They retain their rights over the things they provide people and if customers violate the terms of service a company is 100% within their right to terminate service. The only thing that's insane is how people just blindly click agree and then are confused when something like this happens. If the truck driver lied that's a whole different issue but at the end of the day he is bound to the TOS if he wants access to Amazons services(servers).
@jamesswan882
@jamesswan882 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe this guy isn't immediately cancelling all of his amazon services.
@armeniansdoitbetter
@armeniansdoitbetter Жыл бұрын
He deserves whatever amazon or anything give to him for tolerating any of this.
@marks47
@marks47 Жыл бұрын
If you've invested hundreds, maybe even thousands into their hardware and your whole family has developed habits around it being functional, it's probably a lot more to it than one or two people simply tearing out an alexa or Ring.
@MyVanir
@MyVanir Жыл бұрын
@@marks47 Drug withdrawal is also unpleasant, but it's not a reason not to go through rehabilitation.
@cameronbell415
@cameronbell415 Жыл бұрын
@@marks47 lol weak
@ApocDevTeam
@ApocDevTeam Жыл бұрын
He's an idiot like most consoomers
@sawhite27
@sawhite27 Жыл бұрын
You nailed it. And it's bad enough that all conversations that we foolishly believe are in private when EVERYONE seems to be carrying SMART PHONES that listen to and transmit all conversations/texts/emails/videos/pics/searches/etc. to storage sites which are monitored, filtered, and edited to suit a particular ideology. The same ideology that wants social scoring to be used to control our life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
@cloisterene
@cloisterene Жыл бұрын
The need for better customer service can never be fulfilled with companies whose priorities are so warped in favor of profit and greed.
@emergenciest
@emergenciest Жыл бұрын
I communicate solely by racial slurs in my house, best call Whirlpool and tell them to disable my dishwasher.
@eletricretard3987
@eletricretard3987 Жыл бұрын
My dishwasher gets called a bigger every fuckin day
@TheBcoolGuy
@TheBcoolGuy Жыл бұрын
unfathomably based
@JodyBruchon
@JodyBruchon Жыл бұрын
This reminded me that the local old-skool appliance repair and sales company told me once that Whirlpool (and Roper, a brand they've owned since 1989) is some of the most reliable stuff you can get today. They also said "don't ever buy LG or Samsung appliances." The reviews I've seen bear that out. I have a 12-year-old Roper washer/dryer set and it's still cranking great.
@JackReacheround
@JackReacheround Жыл бұрын
id be okay with that
@houseofhas9355
@houseofhas9355 Жыл бұрын
I would say they block the wife's Amazon powered internet connected Dildo. Then the situation is in serious territory. 😂
@user-vu8fm5vb4n
@user-vu8fm5vb4n Жыл бұрын
A wise man once said.. "There are no such thing as a cloud. Only someone else's computer"
@Roxor128
@Roxor128 Жыл бұрын
All the pros and cons of "the cloud" can be concisely conveyed by swapping "cloud" for "someone else's computer".
@ihavenoson3384
@ihavenoson3384 Жыл бұрын
it's the classic "we can hold your things for you better than you ever could" scheme. See: banking & vaulting. Hold my syphilis. :D
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir Жыл бұрын
It's too bad that non-enterprise NAS systems aren't more popular or convenient. A one-time purchase of, say, 4TB of storage connected to the internet through your own local IP, rather than through a major traffic cloud service run by some for-profit organization who will never have your own best interests in mind. Would also probably be safer vs hack attempts not because you'd have the enterprise grade anti-hack systems in place, but rather because you wouldn't be an enticing target to begin with. Big corpo cloud services get hacked because the payoff is so big, so much data on so many people, all at once - instead of manually going through 10000s of individual IPs. Too bad setup and maintaining NAS puts off many people who know what a NAS is, and most people don't even know what it is or how it can be used. A couple 100 bucks should be more than enough for a 4TB NAS that wouldn't have to take more space than a wifi router.
@bogartwilley
@bogartwilley Жыл бұрын
Did big homie ever make that video about interfaces?
@yodoleheehoo90
@yodoleheehoo90 Жыл бұрын
​@@Real_MisterSiris NAS an external hard drive or program to install on your PC as a substitute for a cloud? Never heard of it like you say, but I am interested in knowing more! My PC always asks me if I want to put all my back up data on the cloud, I always say no thanks!
@drunkfarmer5106
@drunkfarmer5106 Жыл бұрын
Makes me glad I shut off any and all Alexa devices around me where I live. These things by their very function have to listen in on everything you do, and it's mind-boggling to me that people have some sort of mental cognitive dissonance about this.
@benisboy2697
@benisboy2697 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Those are like the people who just live with smoke detector low battery beep going in the background. Everybody knows these devices are basically spying on them and still choose to do nothing about it.
@justdrewit2219
@justdrewit2219 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if this guy, unable to use his Amazon security devices due to the lockout, opened the door to an intruder looking to do harm. Holy moly the shitstorm that would befall Amazon
@guanabacoaguajiraguanabaco3280
@guanabacoaguajiraguanabaco3280 Жыл бұрын
As a millennial, I told my husband from the moment we started living together that I don’t ever want any of those google or amazon smart devices in the house. I feel vindicated.
@criddyla696
@criddyla696 Жыл бұрын
Totally understand… horrible devices
@jilbertb
@jilbertb Жыл бұрын
Agree. Now where can I get a car without all the screens and crap?!
@cryptarisprotocol1872
@cryptarisprotocol1872 Жыл бұрын
@@jilbertb Buy it used.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Жыл бұрын
​@@jilbertb pre 2011
@SantosOverlord
@SantosOverlord Жыл бұрын
@@jilbertb on am used vintage car stand
@ButterBallTheOpossum
@ButterBallTheOpossum Жыл бұрын
If a company is able to disable a device that you own they should legally be required to give you a full refund. Amazon should be forced to advertise their devices as rentals.
@gameguy8101
@gameguy8101 Жыл бұрын
You'll own nothing and be happy
@hhiippiittyy
@hhiippiittyy Жыл бұрын
@@gameguy8101 You're half right.
@dlevi67
@dlevi67 Жыл бұрын
@@hhiippiittyy It's the left half.
@artro398
@artro398 Жыл бұрын
Nah, the left half can't be right...
@kirkjohnson6638
@kirkjohnson6638 Жыл бұрын
​@@artro398 They meant that the left half of the sentence (you'll own nothing) is correct. The right half of the sentence (and you'll be happy) is obviously a lie.
@zPandro1
@zPandro1 Жыл бұрын
I'm a handicapped person, I'm on a wheelchair and having smart devices has made my life way easier. It breaks my heart thinking about the fact that a single company can disable my entire home just because they wanted to.
@WindTurbineSyndrome
@WindTurbineSyndrome 10 ай бұрын
Well I understand but please have a fall back position if they suddenly stop working. I hope you have battery or generator backup electricity.
@zombieshoot4318
@zombieshoot4318 Жыл бұрын
How is this not a massive lawsuit? It's insanity to think this is acceptable in any way.
@wolphin732
@wolphin732 Жыл бұрын
Likely... like many of us, he lacks the money to be able to take this to courts, which is exactly the way the rich have been working for decades.
@bertblue9683
@bertblue9683 Жыл бұрын
Probably in the fine print with every purchase that you authorize Amazon to be sole arbiter, judge and jury.
@paulw5039
@paulw5039 Жыл бұрын
Because the guy reporting this clearly said he *actually supports this kind of technofascism*. He said he was OK with this kind of thing, but it just needed to be more 'nuanced'. Like cattle lining up at the abattoir door.
@YouTubeDeletesComments
@YouTubeDeletesComments Жыл бұрын
​@@wolphin732 Yeah, sure...Yet everything in his home is "smart".
@PerfectorZY
@PerfectorZY Жыл бұрын
@@paulw5039nope, I’m the guy. I don’t support that. Im sure in the fine print they say something like “we reserve the right to revoke access for any reason”. I’d likely lose a law suit on that basis. However, as a community we can push for corporations not to have this ability. See my clarifying statement in the comment section or check the update in the article.
@hey_its_ryan
@hey_its_ryan Жыл бұрын
Imagine you have all "smart" door locks and they decide to lock you out of your own house.
@mgshock
@mgshock Жыл бұрын
They'll unlock it for the feddies come raiding time.
@den2k885
@den2k885 Жыл бұрын
Lockpickinglawyer showed how any shmuck can just break in those.
@homeistheearth
@homeistheearth Жыл бұрын
Or lock you in - climate lockdown. Eat zhe bugs.
@Woodman-Spare-that-tree
@Woodman-Spare-that-tree Жыл бұрын
Or inside it 🤣
@MaryWehmeier
@MaryWehmeier Жыл бұрын
And should they do it… my lawyers will be talking to their lawyers real damn quick.
@nathannickalo1109
@nathannickalo1109 Жыл бұрын
If your fine with them doing it to someone else, you deserve it done to you. Rights are not supposed to be earned.
@zephon13
@zephon13 Жыл бұрын
I've been on the phone for about 2 hours asking for an official response to this. So far I've been through 3 departments. I did manage to get the people I was speaking with to pull up your video and give it a watch themselves. Even the person I was talking to admitted they were concerned. The year is 2023 right now, but next year is 1984.
@Hybzy
@Hybzy Жыл бұрын
Imagine paying actual money to have your own privacy, security, safety and livelihood put into the hands of the enemy.
@MichaelMMiddleton098
@MichaelMMiddleton098 Жыл бұрын
“Smart” isn’t.
@MickeyMishra
@MickeyMishra Жыл бұрын
Its long overdue to kick this crap out of the home. All these so called devices that you put your faith in can be all used against you. And I'm glad people have seen this for what it is.
@AmigaWolf
@AmigaWolf Жыл бұрын
Only the fool or the ignorant, give their children over to their enemy, to be taught by them. - Malcolm X
@eznosnopes5276
@eznosnopes5276 Жыл бұрын
The couldn’t pay me to have that trash in my house.
@monkeyrise856
@monkeyrise856 Жыл бұрын
Also pay to let strangers to hear and see everything you do in your home...
@ilovemonkeyos
@ilovemonkeyos Жыл бұрын
And people wonder why I refuse to get even a basic “Alexa” device of any kind.
@penguinjay
@penguinjay Жыл бұрын
"people"
@Macheako
@Macheako Жыл бұрын
same, but I'd be lying if I didn't say that sometimes I still think we're already screwed just owning a cell phone 😥
@pvtj0cker
@pvtj0cker Жыл бұрын
Are you using a smartphone?
@flintfrommother3gaming
@flintfrommother3gaming Жыл бұрын
Literally no one uses Alexa
@tja4379
@tja4379 Жыл бұрын
@@Macheako it can do everything alexa can do. if you have a smartphone you should get an alexa so it at least payed off :D
@milieu675
@milieu675 Жыл бұрын
This is "you will own nothing and be happy". Including your own freewill.
@viddeliten
@viddeliten Жыл бұрын
My friend got a Kindle, and I was so jealous. But I couldn't get past the fact that they can shut down the account at any time and all the books on it would've be gone. I finally got a device I can put pdf's only if I want instead. Never regretted it.
@philby1
@philby1 Жыл бұрын
The fact that so many people fall for having what really amounts to having spy devices in their house and paying for the privilege never ceases to amaze me.
@dive2drive314
@dive2drive314 Жыл бұрын
I call it voluntarily bugging your own home. I point it out to friends and family who have those devices and they just laugh, not because they don't believe me, but because they just don't care... Pretty scary.
@T..C..M
@T..C..M Жыл бұрын
You have one in your hands right now. The next big war/takeover won’t happen by force, but by convenience.
@ChristianToth-uv1nv
@ChristianToth-uv1nv Жыл бұрын
yeah they install them inside their homes. when you press such individuals, they will act like its completely normal and logical. but they just don't get it, and a concerning number of people just don't get it. like the girlfriend who expects you to share your location at all times. it's f*cking insane...but they just don't get it. and what they don't get is LIFE. The essence of life itself. If you want to keep your sanity, you can't do these things to yourself. And you can justify it certainly you can, and yes maybe there was an instance where that technology actually really did make a difference and prove its worth. But the cost of this technology is what people don't grasp. You pay a price, and I am willing to forfeit any instances where that technology actually makes a difference in order to keep my sanity.
@philby1
@philby1 Жыл бұрын
Well I'm on a desktop computer but don't have much in the line of so called smart stuff.
@irgendwieanders2121
@irgendwieanders2121 Жыл бұрын
+ they buy the spy devices, install them and still do not own them. It's "there is one born every minute" in English, iirc
@TheSmeckledorf
@TheSmeckledorf Жыл бұрын
In case you saw "racism" and immediately thought "good on them", do consider the precedent this sets. If Amazon can disable your services for engaging in behavior society does not like... what happens if societal values change? What happens if they are wrong? Stand against tyranny.
@PaulaXism
@PaulaXism Жыл бұрын
Germany carried out a census in 1930.. It had a few new questions which had never been asked before.. Names of parents and grandparents.. and religion (if any).. And historians to this day wonder how the nazis got all that information about the general population.
@FungalumisBush
@FungalumisBush Жыл бұрын
Also who gets to decide what society doesnt like? But in this case, the victim didnt even do anything, he was ACCUSED of it. An accusation alone is enough to do this shit. It will only get worse from here if nothing is done about it. Shut down your electric car preventing you from going to work, getting fired from your job because a blue haired scrawny loser falsely accuses you of something.
@Robert_D_Mercer
@Robert_D_Mercer Жыл бұрын
it's only the elderly and the super brain dead that come to these conclusions.
@darkprince56
@darkprince56 Жыл бұрын
And here I was worried about a future foreseen in dystopian novels & how we’ll all be forced to comply w/surveillance in our homes via the government boot but it wasn’t needed. Companies have bamboozled sheep into willingly bringing in the wolves “for their safety & security” by luring them w/fancy gizmos.
@johnkingsize
@johnkingsize Жыл бұрын
This is not tyranny, as this is not the government's doing. This is corporatism.
@solidsnakeandgrayfox
@solidsnakeandgrayfox 6 ай бұрын
This is a dystopian future. I saw this coming for years, even growing up in the early 2000s and everyone thought i was nuts. I was born in 93 and saw this crap coming.
@shelleyhayton9251
@shelleyhayton9251 Жыл бұрын
If I was the person in question, I’d be changing pretty quickly and also having a civil suit!!!
@THEEblindman
@THEEblindman Жыл бұрын
Punitive damages is about the only way to make companies like this behave.
@LeeHawkinsPhoto
@LeeHawkinsPhoto Жыл бұрын
They probably head that off in their terms of service. They usually give themselves all sorts of rights and licenses they shouldn’t have in those things just to prevent most suits from ever getting past summary judgement.
@THEEblindman
@THEEblindman Жыл бұрын
​@@LeeHawkinsPhoto Direct action based on unfounded allegations leading to Loss harm or injury. Contracts don't protect from criminal actions
@TheGhostFart
@TheGhostFart Жыл бұрын
@@THEEblindman amazon can stall the average person into bankruptcy because the legal system is broken
@novacorponline
@novacorponline Жыл бұрын
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto An important legal concept a lot more people need to learn is that a contract cannot be unreasonable. For example, if I slip into a contract that I have permission to punch you three times a day and you sign it, then I start punching you, you can take it to court and a judge may rule the contract invalid. A judge always has the ability to look at a contract and say "By the letter of the contract, yes, technically this is what was agreed to, but no reasonable person would expect or agree to these terms, therefor this contract is unconscionable." Of course, a judge may also just uphold it blindly as well. So, its always better to avoid a bad contract in the first place than try to fight your way out of one later.
@vadandrumist1670
@vadandrumist1670 Жыл бұрын
Too bad they can't be arrested.
@dars4utube
@dars4utube Жыл бұрын
Now imagine what happens when your gmail account gets the same treatment.. and you use it as an sso account for most of the sites you visit, including youtube, or to access your phone.
@rossmanngroup
@rossmanngroup Жыл бұрын
Already happened. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eatgeKVmx77OYWg.html The man was accused of p d o p h i la because a Karen Google employee who disapproved of a mother breastfeeding thought that his photos showed a pattern of abusive child content. He was reported to the police, even after his account was looked through by a human to ensure that it was an emergency before reporting. The man ended up being cleared of all charges. But either way. Imagine having to deal with the police looking into reports of you being a chld abu s er because you used gmail to answer a request from a doctor, got flagged, and reported to the police by someone who hates the concept of childbearing & family so much, they deem this abusive upon *MANUAL REVIEW.* The cloud shit has just gone too far. The only person's computer I'm storing my shit on at this point is my own. and the switches to turn on lights in my house will be flip switches from now until the day I die. Call me a luddite, I dare you! ;)
@DominickPeluso
@DominickPeluso Жыл бұрын
How do you even mitigate this? Running your own email server seems impractical because Google won't deliver your emails
@clusterstage
@clusterstage Жыл бұрын
Now imagine a disobedient A.I.....
@aristotelesbenicio7476
@aristotelesbenicio7476 Жыл бұрын
I'm suing Google because something similar.
@billh.1940
@billh.1940 Жыл бұрын
@@DominickPeluso hi, what did you do before you had email? Do it again. I force people to call me. Or mail. The email, online all the time is not needed.
@dcnative1618
@dcnative1618 Жыл бұрын
The first time I heard about this I made sure my house has zero smart devices. I was first alarmed when I read Amazon sends Ring video to local law enforcement without permission from the camera owner. Therefore I do not have a camera system but so many neighbors do I feel secure.
@DMTDEZIGNZ
@DMTDEZIGNZ 6 ай бұрын
Loved how you managed to keep a straight face and keep reading even with your cat climbing all over you😂 also everytime you swore the cat looked at you as if to say, "Dude, language!" 😹😹😹
@sabinrawr
@sabinrawr Жыл бұрын
Could you imagine if a teller at your bank mistakenly thought you said something offensive, and suddenly your accounts are frozen, your car is repossessed, and your home foreclosed? This is not a slippery slope. We are in freefall.
@adrianzoltan6473
@adrianzoltan6473 Жыл бұрын
That already is happened in Canada with the truckers
@cn0503
@cn0503 Жыл бұрын
Already happened in Canada
@RobotronSage
@RobotronSage Жыл бұрын
Or imagine owing a company 20$ so they call bailiffs and it goes to court and within 2 months they tell you to pay 500+$ within 2 days ''or else'' they'll start repoing ur stuff. That's where i'm at right now basically.
@DrCruel
@DrCruel Жыл бұрын
Imagine being elderly and on a fixed income, and some Democrats want to steal your house. They increase your taxes and don't tell you, then seize the house once you're in arrears and sell it in a closed auction for peanuts. They tell the elderly person that if he doesn't make a fuss, they'll put him into Section 8 housing. How about that.
@HepCatJack
@HepCatJack Жыл бұрын
@@adrianzoltan6473 Imagine you walk in the middle of winter in to get your groceries, then once inside, you find empty shelves because some a-holes though it was a good idea to starve the population by blocking the flow of food coming through the border by blocking bridges just so they can throw a hissy fit. They didn't just "say something offensive", one organizer made threats upon the life of the PM, who was recently re-elected. In a country where the National Assembly was once shot up by a deranged individual. No sympathies for those guys. These people prevented ambulances from making it to hospitals.
@KidCorporate
@KidCorporate Жыл бұрын
Watching my interest in consumer "technology" dwindle to near zero in real time has been fascinating. I'm about ready to go horse shopping.
@Code7Unltd
@Code7Unltd Жыл бұрын
Funny that the best way to get "dumb" tech is to import Chinesium made for China. It's almost like this is a problem of Western business.
@rossmanngroup
@rossmanngroup Жыл бұрын
Same here.
@CEOofWasrael
@CEOofWasrael Жыл бұрын
Get you a Honda Civic made before 05. You can stock up on cheap parts and figure out some sort of fuel alternative and you got yourself an apocalypse ride.
@iunnox666
@iunnox666 Жыл бұрын
A Civic is probably a bad choice for poorly maintained/no roads. CR-V is a better bet for that, but realistically no one is going to be driving anything for long post apocalypse.
@KidCorporate
@KidCorporate Жыл бұрын
@@CEOofWasrael Got a 4Runner, that's pretty damn anarchonsitic!
@rustyrobinson8027
@rustyrobinson8027 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Louis for having values that you share ❤
@james44mag31
@james44mag31 Жыл бұрын
Opens the door for criminals at Amazon. If they realize that their security has been compromised that is.
@damocles7406
@damocles7406 Жыл бұрын
It's almost like connecting literally everything in your house to the internet is a bad idea!
@DeathMonkeys
@DeathMonkeys Жыл бұрын
Clearly you’re just a nutjob conspiracy theorist, trust corpo, consume without thought!
@philwithcheese
@philwithcheese Жыл бұрын
Its fine if you made the infrastructure. I run a full home automation system, but I built it and wrote the code for it. I block individual devices from accessing the internet at my firewall and control it all via a server I completely control. Im currently adding AI functionality, but that also runs locally on an AI server.
@HVDynamo
@HVDynamo Жыл бұрын
@@philwithcheese I've been thinking of doing this. What kind of equipment do you use to run everything?
@PnPride
@PnPride Жыл бұрын
yeah who knew? lol
@drumyogi9281
@drumyogi9281 Жыл бұрын
@@philwithcheeseWhat benefits do you get from that? Kind of setting yourself up to being a couch potato from the sounds of it haha jk jk that is how it would end for me.
@lilstubthumb
@lilstubthumb Жыл бұрын
They have zero right to disable products you paid for even if you said the most vile thing.
@nerobernardino88
@nerobernardino88 Жыл бұрын
Not if you concede that right to them in the terms of service.
@sa-amirel-hayeed699
@sa-amirel-hayeed699 Жыл бұрын
While I hate sreggin as much as the next guy, Nero is right, the instant you click I accept you have no rights
@snex000
@snex000 Жыл бұрын
But they do have the right. Because you don't own the product or especially the servers it connects to. This is what you signed up for.
@Seasniffer69
@Seasniffer69 Жыл бұрын
​@@snex000we do own the product, just not the software and servers its only allowed to link to.
@braindecay9477
@braindecay9477 Жыл бұрын
@@Seasniffer69 yeah, if they're allowed to shut you down after paying for the product, then it should be illegal to block the device from connecting do different services/servers (that actually exist!). Either one or the other. But such stuff would never be law in the US. Maybe small chance in the EU.
@gustavoguti27
@gustavoguti27 Жыл бұрын
People used to call me crazy for blocking the webcam with tape and refusing any smart house crap
@Phatnaru0002
@Phatnaru0002 Жыл бұрын
Louis, I know you don't normally do tutorial videos, but would you be willing to consider doing a video on a local home security system? One that focuses on affordability and accessibility for the less tech-minded people? I'd like to set up one for my parents, and I'd love to be pointed in the right direction for parts. Also, accessibility, because I can't be there to constantly manage it for them, and need something they can handle for most things.
@Treebranch_
@Treebranch_ Жыл бұрын
I’m just glad Amazon is letting us know sooner than later what their plans for our lives are so we can stop purchasing their products
@smirking8457
@smirking8457 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunely, I suspect "voting with your" dollar, isn't going to be enough to get it done in Amazon's case
@charliescourbys1340
@charliescourbys1340 Жыл бұрын
@@smirking8457 Use the Bud Light boycott model.
@CDale-tc3xz
@CDale-tc3xz Жыл бұрын
@@charliescourbys1340 Also known as the "Snowflake" Model.
@smirking8457
@smirking8457 Жыл бұрын
@@charliescourbys1340 Anheuser Busch is going to be just fine. The people that control the Fed and Blackrock set the civilizational agenda, not consumers. The concept of “voting with your dollar” presupposes a lot about how things operate that just aren’t true. The sooner people come to terms with the reality of this neo-Bolshevik system, the sooner we can actually start taking pragmatic steps to change things.
@Treebranch_
@Treebranch_ Жыл бұрын
@@smirking8457 either way, Amazon is warning us to not buy or use their smart home products.
@ukamikazu
@ukamikazu Жыл бұрын
So what could have happened if Amazon disabled a thermostat during a heatwave in an elderly person's home or the home of a new family with an infant or an otherwise fragile individual? All because someone got their feelings illegitimately hurt?
@nojuanatall3281
@nojuanatall3281 Жыл бұрын
If they keep doing this then it will happen sooner or later.
@mikelarry2602
@mikelarry2602 Жыл бұрын
They shouldn't have the power to begin with.
@mariawhite7337
@mariawhite7337 Жыл бұрын
They already do this. Not Amazon in particular if I recall correctly. But these people signed up for a "smart" air conditioning thing and then couldn't control as it basically was controlled remotely. Where it then would shut off or turn on basically randomly.
@DieFarbeLila88
@DieFarbeLila88 Жыл бұрын
Would this thermostat then have to be an amazon product or could it be anything as long as it connects to the internet? Does amazon even make thermostats? 😵‍💫
@owensparks5013
@owensparks5013 Жыл бұрын
You'd adjust it manually? 🤷‍♂️
@ghost_ship_supreme
@ghost_ship_supreme Жыл бұрын
This is why I will never buy any Amazon “smart” products, especially cameras!
@macdaniel6029
@macdaniel6029 Жыл бұрын
Be smart: NEVER use smarthome stuff!
@hoegild1
@hoegild1 Жыл бұрын
It baffles me, that anybody would allow anybody and especially a multinational corporation that kind of power over their home! It baffles me even more, that it is legal..
@ban80
@ban80 Жыл бұрын
You have a cell phone, you have internet. Multinational corporations already have power over you. You just don't know it becaue they have not exercised it yet. Wait until isps and cell providers start canceling people for wrong think.
@happybobyou
@happybobyou Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for a FOSS smart speaker. Until then, I'm with Google; with as many devices as possible through HASS
@RonSwansonIsMyGod
@RonSwansonIsMyGod Жыл бұрын
Forget even that level of things. Anybody that knows anything about systems of any kind should know that the more complexity you introduce into a system the more likely for things to go wrong. I mean why would you want to turn your daily life into being a sys admin or something?
@epytaffskitchenstink
@epytaffskitchenstink Жыл бұрын
Going to be nice for the CCP when they takeover. And thanks to Biden it's all going to happen.
@Dave-kh6tx
@Dave-kh6tx Жыл бұрын
welcome to the United States.
@albertosara416
@albertosara416 Жыл бұрын
The worst part is how this guy's conclusion is "I hope Amazon can work on getting a better customer service so this doesn't happen again". Really? Not "maybe having a smart home that can be shut down remotely on a whim by a giant corporation is a bad idea"?
@notlNSIGHT
@notlNSIGHT Жыл бұрын
This is literally why my LED strips are only controlled by Bluetooth.
@arthurpendragon3000
@arthurpendragon3000 Жыл бұрын
The guy works at Microsoft so he's all in for this stuff. Also if I had to guess he probably lives in a highly progessive city where people think giving up freedoms is a virtue.
@firewfire
@firewfire Жыл бұрын
So you are blaming the idea of a smart phone/camera rather than Amazon here? 😅 Backwards ass..
@Capohanf1
@Capohanf1 Жыл бұрын
NOT ONLY A GIANT CORPORATION, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN GOVERNMENT LEARNS THAT IT CAN DO THE SAME!!!!!!
@localbod
@localbod Жыл бұрын
​@Capohanf1 You really think that governments haven't thought about that yet?
@shadowshatto
@shadowshatto Жыл бұрын
I hate that we use or have to use services that put us at the mercy of people or companies that can choose to ban you for any reason with no explanation.
@irrelevant_noob
@irrelevant_noob 7 ай бұрын
Or with such weak explanations... i mean really, what slur would've been close to "Excuse me, can i help you?" (2:49) ?!? o.O
@indigo2ks
@indigo2ks Жыл бұрын
Tell your story, vote with your feet, leave exit feedback, and never go back. This is the only way to effect change.
@TheDorianTube
@TheDorianTube Жыл бұрын
This is dystopian EVEN if it wasn't a misunderstanding. A company has no authority as thought police, and shouldn't be legally allowed to keep you from your purchased goods
@bot-h2h
@bot-h2h Жыл бұрын
i think it is just like software tos,u don't own the things you buy,which is bad for the consumer
@foxdavion6865
@foxdavion6865 Жыл бұрын
In my country, the government is so heavily protective of the consumer that Netflix can't even properly introduce their new one account per household system, all they can really do is put up an annoying splash screen which you can easily click around. But, the USA doesn't have things like that, because they have voted in corporate shills for 50 years.
@mystriddlery
@mystriddlery Жыл бұрын
@@bot-h2h He bought the product, I’m actually not sure amazon has the right to do anything besides disconnect it from their servers at that point (which would actually be a boon for the customer). Otherwise it’s false advertising, you didn’t buy a TOS, you bought a smart product or whatever (a doorbell for instance). Do these devices require to be connected to amazon to work or something? Disabling them completely was beyond what they should legally be able to do.
@trumpisthemessiah7017
@trumpisthemessiah7017 Жыл бұрын
Isnt capitalism great? Weird how nobody realizes that we cant be both a democracy and capitalist, because capitalism already has a built in ruling class. The merchants. The billionaires. Your vote does not matter. If it did, why didnt democrats have bernie instead of hillary in 2016? Why did trump "win" with 3 million less votes? Billionaires buy the people that make the districts. They control the media. They control both the DNC and GOP. THEY control who wins and loses. And the only way we will change that is to throw out political parties and vote based on what that person's stances are. And if the person that gets the most votes doesnt win, then we start burning megastores down. Hit them where it hurts. In their wallets.
@GratefulDawg760
@GratefulDawg760 Жыл бұрын
But you’ll still shop at Amazon. Don’t cap. You know you will.
@medea27
@medea27 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that Amazon acted so quickly to penalise a _paying customer_ for an employee-reported incident _without investigating anything._ Not exactly a smart business model... just another reason to avoid anyone having control of my home except me.
@0ptimal
@0ptimal Жыл бұрын
Yep. Speculating but there's probably some hidden context that would help make sense of it, something like maybe the Amazon driver made assumptions of the customer based on the home or vehicles, and so interpreted the doorbell audio the way he did due to those assumptions, then the exec had a certain set of beliefs that aligned with the drivers, both of which oppose what they perceived the customers beliefs to be, and that's all it took. It's all absurd but par for the course these days.
@SonOfTheOne111
@SonOfTheOne111 Жыл бұрын
Everyone is terrified of what the blaxes might do when angry, so they overreact.
@mikafizz1022
@mikafizz1022 Жыл бұрын
​@@0ptimalif only valid sources would eradicate racism
@jamesyoung7400
@jamesyoung7400 Жыл бұрын
No, no a DEI issue was overreacted on quickly and they can't possibly back peddle otherwise they will anger a small minority of people who and the executives will feel guilty because a small group of loud people will tell them they are bad people.
@someusername121
@someusername121 Жыл бұрын
What's weird is...what is Amazon so afraid of that they instantly cancelled this guy's smart devices on an allegation that's weak at best. And how does that compare to the negative publicity that comes with cancel culture exactly because of shit like this...it's like they're so busy jerking off 13% of the population they forget than 80% don't give a fuck even if the guy was racist.
@unlearningcommunism4742
@unlearningcommunism4742 Жыл бұрын
Fully supporting... Good for you!
@bilwisss
@bilwisss Жыл бұрын
amazon, no, no thank you. nerts to you amazon.
@soandsononame8750
@soandsononame8750 Жыл бұрын
I love how they get locked out of their own smart house for a week, and they are only "reconsidering" their use of amazon products. LMAO they had a WEEK to think it over. Good Gravy
@denofpigs2575
@denofpigs2575 Жыл бұрын
The average person is just like that. And they vote.
@yourmum69_420
@yourmum69_420 Жыл бұрын
for real, what an utter muppet. And he sounds like he would be totally fine with this happening if he really Had said something "racist". His only issue was that he deemed himself innocent
@Guardsmen4
@Guardsmen4 Жыл бұрын
im horrified can't believe it
@augustday9483
@augustday9483 Жыл бұрын
Never underestimate the sheeple.
@gridley
@gridley Жыл бұрын
*Normalcy bias & "business-as-usual" are a big reason the con artists of society have an easier time than they'd otherwise would.*
@Cimlite
@Cimlite Жыл бұрын
I think the bigger issue is that Amazon thinks they have the right to punish a customer regardless of ehat was said. Even if the doorbell spouted racist comments every time someone pressed it, Amazon still shouldnt have the right to act this way. They aren't law enforcement, having them act like it is beyond messed up.
@Fronzel41
@Fronzel41 Жыл бұрын
The police also shouldn't have the right.
@leonardticsay8046
@leonardticsay8046 Жыл бұрын
It shouldn’t even be a law to be enforced. Free speech lets us know what crazies to avoid.
@anotherroady6234
@anotherroady6234 Жыл бұрын
It isn’t a law. You can say whatever you wish to whoever you wish. That’s between them and you.
@MamaMOB
@MamaMOB Жыл бұрын
They don't think they have the right they know they do because you signed a contract saying they do. Y'all do get you can actually sign away your rights right? And when you sign a TOS that's exactly what you're doing.
@kabalanstef9636
@kabalanstef9636 Жыл бұрын
imagine if the people that made your electronic lock came to your house and hard locked it because they didnt like what you said to someone on another continent. that is nuts, absolutely nuts. you pay for the amazon crap, its yours, they cant change or take it away.
@lovetocook9078
@lovetocook9078 Жыл бұрын
I had a disputed bill with Amazon and they did the same exact thing to me. I was hostage in my own home. A lawsuit in the making!
@memyselfi7292
@memyselfi7292 Жыл бұрын
I expect this more and more acoss ever sector of our lives.
@NickyBeatsStudio
@NickyBeatsStudio 6 ай бұрын
I just wanted to say: Thank you for teaching people this stuff. Not everybody knows all the stuff that happens behind these devices. Thank you.
@zantas-handle
@zantas-handle Жыл бұрын
I remember when Amazon removed Orwell's _1984_ from Kindles overnight. They claimed copyright reasons, but of course for most people the real shock was discovering that they could just 'repossess' a book if they wanted to without your permission. People are very naïve about 'digital vulnerability'.
@rockfire1669
@rockfire1669 Жыл бұрын
If it was copyright reasons, they would have kept it for the people who bought it. You don’t see CSGO removing skins from the player base. Even when found out that someone else created the skin that was submitted.
@JoeTheGreat
@JoeTheGreat Жыл бұрын
They memory-holed the memory hole... How ironic.
@user-sf9gs2pg1b
@user-sf9gs2pg1b Жыл бұрын
Wait they did? I bought that like a while ago 💀 yikes
@T..C..M
@T..C..M Жыл бұрын
Sounds legit
@nurox3127
@nurox3127 Жыл бұрын
I really believe that because so many people have been told so constantly that everyone and everything is racist, they've started looking everywhere for anything that could be even misconstrued as racism. I've lived in the deep south my whole life and have only met 2 racists. It is a dying problem of older generations and it would die faster if left alone. Constantly pouring gas on every ember will only raise racial tensions, not lower them.
@Majextic
@Majextic Жыл бұрын
There was a point where this corporate overreach needed to stop and we are a million miles past it, this is actual insanity.
@barneyboyle6933
@barneyboyle6933 Жыл бұрын
Can’t fix anything when the libs attack anyone who stands up to corporations
@jaysky2000
@jaysky2000 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Pure insanity!
@youtubasoarus
@youtubasoarus Жыл бұрын
Well yeah, you'd think so. But people keep signing up for this nonsense.
@katrinamillings3651
@katrinamillings3651 Жыл бұрын
We're past the solution as well. Once they got rid of all the mom and pop stores there were no alternatives left. People always worried about tyrannical governments taking us over. It's much worse than that. We actually pay corporations to take our rights away.
@Tyler11821
@Tyler11821 Жыл бұрын
Don't allow that overreach into your home. Easy solution. A "smart" home, outside of maybe HVAC saves maybe a few seconds a day. I can turn on my light and close my curtain manually. The total time I do that a day might be 1 minute max.
@Pro4TLZZ
@Pro4TLZZ Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Louis
@Robowx
@Robowx Жыл бұрын
Who makes them judge and jury? What credentials do they have?
@TheWebstaff
@TheWebstaff Жыл бұрын
You have to be pulling my leg? Oh, this is real. Wtf are Amazon doing?!..
@rossmanngroup
@rossmanngroup Жыл бұрын
I followed up with the author and requested several forms of proof; video, audio, emails. As biased as I am, this seemed like a joke. Unfortunately it is not. Between this and kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hMyZfLug1KqbZ6c.html , I can't imagine why anyone would want anything with Amazon branding inside of their home. The dude's only crime was having a doorbell that goes " can I help you " .....
@elenabob4953
@elenabob4953 Жыл бұрын
Everything they want because they have the power you petty plebe.
@TheWebstaff
@TheWebstaff Жыл бұрын
@@rossmanngroup yeah I can say I'm guilty of that. The issue is we allow ourselves to follow the path of least resistance even if that means we are now barreling down a hill, heading for a cliff.
@Flynn217something
@Flynn217something Жыл бұрын
Whatever the hell they want. That's the perks of being the official/unofficial arm of the surveillance state.
@PyromancerRift
@PyromancerRift Жыл бұрын
@@rossmanngroup The issue with humans is the sheep mentallity. If a sizeable amount of people do something, buy some brand, consume some *add anything you want here*, more people will flock to it. The economy and the equilibrium of power and responsibility is broken as soon as a monopoly happen. This is real bad and thanks to globalization and advertisement, it accelerates. What breaks my heart at the moment is PC gamers hoping AMD get more competitive to force nvidia to lower their prices so they can go and buy an nvidia card. This is an insane mindset.
@TheChadWork2001
@TheChadWork2001 Жыл бұрын
Sue Amazon for millions, no settling out of court, and then send them an email if they know why they got sued and lost.
@abyssalreclass
@abyssalreclass Жыл бұрын
Don't sue Amazon, amazon has armies of lawyers on payroll that will put you into the ground, metaphorically speaking. Go after the driver individually for defamation. Make it loud and public, so that the driver's face and name gets plastered across the news. Stuff you paid for getting shut down creates actual damages as well that should be recoverable.
@sgtshultz13
@sgtshultz13 Жыл бұрын
Good luck with democrat judges. They will jail you for hate speech.
@remixedcat
@remixedcat Жыл бұрын
They have way too deep pockets for that. Long term Incarceration w no bail is the only way to get thru to them
@hyoenmadan
@hyoenmadan Жыл бұрын
@@remixedcat Maybe some day, some R u ss1an or Chin3s3 nuky delivery smashes their datacenters :-P.
@TheGhostFart
@TheGhostFart Жыл бұрын
@@remixedcat bold of you to assume the trillion dollar company is beholden to anyone outside of a 3 letter investment firm's program
@eukaryon
@eukaryon Жыл бұрын
Got rid of the "smart" TV when it created *more* ads and kept diverting me from my desired programs to something they selected.
@jillpiazza4397
@jillpiazza4397 Жыл бұрын
Screw Amazon and screw the driver!
@pfsmith007
@pfsmith007 Жыл бұрын
My sister and her family have alexa devices all over their house, when I brought up security issues, she and her husband rolled their eyes. The new society doesn't value privacy over convenience.
@MiauFrito
@MiauFrito Жыл бұрын
It's freaking great to just have a microphone constantly listening to everything you do and say, SURELY - t, The NSA
@sidecharacter7165
@sidecharacter7165 Жыл бұрын
computer and phone
@BusinessWolf1
@BusinessWolf1 Жыл бұрын
if you tell them with a serious face that they are black mirroring themselves and they don't react accordingly (with a hammer) there's nothing you can do for them.
@ElmokillaXDK
@ElmokillaXDK Жыл бұрын
Says you typing this on KZfaq who is owned by Google lol
@MoonShadeStuff
@MoonShadeStuff Жыл бұрын
@MiauFrito so you have no PC or Smartphone, how are you writing this KZfaq comment anyway?
@JasonNZ42
@JasonNZ42 Жыл бұрын
To be honest the most surprising thing about this story to me is that Amazon actually cared enough about an employers complaint
@debbiedogs1
@debbiedogs1 Жыл бұрын
And so - I suspect that there is another reason for this tyranny.
@atomiccracker
@atomiccracker Жыл бұрын
only 'Certain Employee's'... Its Obvious, who was who in this scenario!!!
@kirkjohnson6638
@kirkjohnson6638 Жыл бұрын
I think that it is just as surprising that Amazon bothered to investigate and restore the customer's access to their account.
@bluemyst42
@bluemyst42 Жыл бұрын
Very likely this had little to do with Amazon as a company, and more to do with that driver and a friend he has that also works for Amazon. Not saying Amazon is a good thing, but this is probably employees overstepping boundaries for perceived wrong doings.
@yeekasoose
@yeekasoose Жыл бұрын
What you're missing is that the complaint wasn't against Amazon.
@JamJells
@JamJells Жыл бұрын
Amazon has always ruled with an ironed fist.
@PaleoVirus
@PaleoVirus Жыл бұрын
That has to be the most comfortable chair I've ever seen.
@M1ndzor
@M1ndzor Жыл бұрын
Even if he were racist to the delivery guy what right do they have to disable his house appliances lmao
@snex000
@snex000 Жыл бұрын
Those appliances belong to Amazon, not you. This is what you signed up for.
@Operational117
@Operational117 Жыл бұрын
They *think* they have the right to do so. And oftentimes… that’s enough for them to enforce it. Imagine if they managed to create a law that says that *even after purchase, the company who sold you something reserves all rights over this thing they “sold” you!* It would no longer be a case of “you’ll own nothing and be happy”, it’d be “you legally own nothing, deal with it, scrub”. EDIT: A letter escaped. Reeled it in. Naming and shaming the letter: the “r” in “over”
@KA-vs7nl
@KA-vs7nl Жыл бұрын
Maybe dont buy amazon product jfc...
@Abhinav_Nayana_Sailen
@Abhinav_Nayana_Sailen Жыл бұрын
Do not blindly press "I accept"
@Sig509
@Sig509 Жыл бұрын
These bozos seems to be unable to separate services (or that was too much effort), so instead of banning just the deliveries they've banned everyhitng. Now imagine that person has a small business and is using AWS.
@nasko235679
@nasko235679 Жыл бұрын
The amount of control people are WILLINGLY giving up to these companies is insane. 24/7 cloud connected cameras with microphones?! Remote control of home appliances like A/C, fridges,ovens and TVs? Why? Just WHY?!
@DieFarbeLila88
@DieFarbeLila88 Жыл бұрын
I have a cloud because I`m scared of my external hard drives crashing. Happened to a relative. Do you happen to have a better idea? 😅
@juanjohn427
@juanjohn427 Жыл бұрын
@@DieFarbeLila88 This is going to sound crazy but, how about backing up your OWN DATA?
@lucasj.pereira4912
@lucasj.pereira4912 Жыл бұрын
@@DieFarbeLila88 proper local equipment with *encrypted* cloud backup.
@rookievideos8865
@rookievideos8865 Жыл бұрын
​@DieFarbeLila88 A NAS that backs up all your devices and makes snapshots to back up the backups.
@MrKinir
@MrKinir Жыл бұрын
Yes, there are better solutions for safe storage at home. You can have a NAS at home with RAID for disk redundancy. This is how I save my surveillance feed.
@kellycamp513
@kellycamp513 Жыл бұрын
Aww your cat is welcome.. how sweet. Too much power and control being handed to these companies.
@theDane70
@theDane70 Жыл бұрын
WOW! This is totally crazy!!!
@Alex-bm9nb
@Alex-bm9nb Жыл бұрын
The most surreal thing is "Amazon cares about its drivers" LOL 😂😂😂
@1stRanger
@1stRanger Жыл бұрын
They don't. They care about punishing whoever they believe is "racist" by any means necessary.
@TT-ix5yr
@TT-ix5yr Жыл бұрын
companies need to get massive fines for behavior like this
@glashoppah
@glashoppah Жыл бұрын
Fined by who? You accept this behavior with the click wrap.
@rfichokeofdestiny
@rfichokeofdestiny Жыл бұрын
They’ll get massive fines if they _don’t_ engage in this kind of behavior. You don’t want racist companies helping racisty racists engage in their nasty horrible racism do you? Racism! 👻
@ancientslav4863
@ancientslav4863 Жыл бұрын
They need to be shut down
@DonariaRegia
@DonariaRegia Жыл бұрын
No no! Let them reveal how invasive and controlling this technology is now. There is no need for any company to have that kind of access to equipment you own. That's the darkest of roads to follow. Awareness and SHARING the knowledge can crush the idea of such overreach as "normal".
@qq84
@qq84 Жыл бұрын
It would have to be done by the same governments who built Scamazon and the others up.
@CourtneysAuntSara
@CourtneysAuntSara Жыл бұрын
This is a stark reminder that ppl should NOT allow their home to be run and controlled by an outside source.
@ThiagoVelloso
@ThiagoVelloso Жыл бұрын
I worked as an amazon delivery driver until last year and i find difficult to believe that the driver was actually able to talk to someone in power to do something like this instead of dealing with automated emails
@shadowace940
@shadowace940 Жыл бұрын
Yeah...this doesn't sound right. I can't find any other information on this. Maybe Louis is breaking the news, which would be cool. I just find it hard to believe that an "executive" would get involved in emailing and talking to a random customer personally to "admonish" him. Hundreds of drivers a day probably experience real racism and nothing is done to the those customers. Unless the driver was the son/daughter of someone important at Amazon.
@slaapt
@slaapt Жыл бұрын
Complaints can be filed by email or some web-interface. It doesn't always require actually talking to people.
@eliotness107
@eliotness107 Жыл бұрын
​@@shadowace940If the delivery driver is some executives cousin that he can call on his personal phone number for example. How is it unreasonable then? If you check in the comments you can see Louis actually verified the story, so regardless what you believe, it did actually happened.
@marks47
@marks47 Жыл бұрын
@@shadowace940 I'll take it at face value for the moment and just interpret "executive" as a fancy title for CSR... "account executive" maybe?
@shadowace940
@shadowace940 Жыл бұрын
@@marks47 You might be right. Personally, I wont take the story at face value. I'm still skeptical. However, I don't think that detracts from Louis' point. I still think he is correct in that we shouldn't hand over the keys to the kingdom to some random corpo who gives 0 crap about us.
@VickeP
@VickeP Жыл бұрын
Tech Enthusiast: "My entire house is smart, I control it all through my phone!" Tech Worker: "The only piece of technology in my house is a printer. I keep a gun next to it so I can shoot it if it makes a noise I don't recognize." Great video as always Louis
@arcanisdivinitis
@arcanisdivinitis Жыл бұрын
Don't keep your gun to close to the printer, you never know when it might go for it.
@almostontimehero5415
@almostontimehero5415 Жыл бұрын
Everyone needs a gun, the AI take over will never give you notice. Go time is GO TIME.
@AshnSilvercorp
@AshnSilvercorp Жыл бұрын
The AI in your printer has decided it's you who needs replacement this time. Why did you arm it?
@AshnSilvercorp
@AshnSilvercorp Жыл бұрын
@@JimAllen-Persona if those things have mics, I'm very certain they're COPPA violations walking next to your kids. The amount of lawsuits I hear about Ring, Xbox, and other companies with devices near kids getting caught not deleting data is insane.
@moddaudio
@moddaudio Жыл бұрын
What do you do about the yellow 'tracking dots' printed on every page?
@Paul-li9hq
@Paul-li9hq Жыл бұрын
Let this be a lesson to all... Once you have handed over control of your life to these people (and that is what you really have done with all this smart tech) you cannot complain when they exercise that control...
@Aknman010
@Aknman010 Жыл бұрын
Corporate overreach and a law suet should be in the courts . Even the government never needs this much power.
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