AMBOT ETUNE!!! - OTS vs ETUNE vs PROTUNE?

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AMBOT ETUNE!!! - OTS vs ETUNE vs PROTUNE? - Subaru WRX 15+

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Kevin was having some issues with the COBB OTS tunes so he decided to go for an Etune from AMBOTTuning. This video covers the process and results of the etune, but more importantly, discusses the major differences between an OTS tune, an Etune, and a Protune. Each has its perks... which one is best for you?
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@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын

@21:20 @ I'd like to add one comment here... When someone etune's your car, if you haven't been maintaining your car properly or if you start the etune process with bad plugs, a bad MAF sensor, poorly installed parts, or something like that, the tuner is going to compensate for those things in the tune: they can't see those things necessarily. That's another reason why some people opt for a protune, where most of the time, the protuner will fully inspect your entire motor and parts before even starting the dyno tuning.

@wyattwrx 3 жыл бұрын

Fair argument. What intake u run?

@WRXGarage 3 жыл бұрын

Grimmspeed!

@aaronderrick5721 4 жыл бұрын

I've probably watched this specific video three times, because it's just so informative. You guys are really great at explaining what exactly all of these products and services R4 and what they do. If anybody is trying to just sift out all of the confusion of trying to make sense of what exactly is applicable to our vehicles, all they need to do is watch this video because this video for me put a lot of things in perspective, I mean I knew a lot about the e-tunes already, but after listening to his explanation oh, it was great oh, well done

@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tim!!!!

@Proxinova 4 жыл бұрын

I just completed my Etune from Brentuning. The Cobb OTS was fine at first, then I started seeing absolutely horrible numbers only about a month running their Stage 1 OTS. The Etune works flawlessly, excellent numbers, the car feels better as well :)

@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome!!! Unfortunately, I live too close to Bren for an etune. Couldn't justify the cost of a protune for just a jpipe. Will definitely go to him for a protune once I get all of my parts in!

@randallakahotwhite3828 3 жыл бұрын

@@WRXGarage what would your suggestion be 2018 wrx manual I recently did the grimmspeed stealth box, Invidia catted j pipe with the ETS CAT back. But it's definitely effecting the car drive ability and fuel? What should I try a etune

@Dezanddavid 4 жыл бұрын

Good informative video for someone getting into the whole tuning process. I've been running Mtuned ots stage 2 with no problems until I can get a protune

@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын

OTS maps can definitely work fine! Some have absolutely no issues at all, while others see consistent knock events with them. It's just a car-to-car thing unfortunately.

@warsonmedia 4 жыл бұрын

MTuned for the win dude!

@unrulybill 2 жыл бұрын

I’m currently running MAP intake stage 1+ abs catback and god does it feel amazing. I’m here because I scheduled a tune with ambott for next week after I get my j pipe intake. Can’t wait!

@WRXGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome!!

@87ssstans 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the amazing video. I recently installed a cat back exhaust for my 2018 wrx and i am currently running the cobb stage 1 93 octane OTS map. I hope this was should be okay for the time being until I put more mods on the car. Thanks again!

@Dezanddavid 4 жыл бұрын

When I was stage 1 I ran Ambots ots stage 1 and it was night and day compared to the Cobb ots

@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah!! Cobb stage 1 is pretty reliable without any power mods. With just a catback you'll be fine. If you ever see knock issues, try running the 91 tune with 93 gas

@87ssstans 4 жыл бұрын

@@Dezanddavid for sure Ill have to look into that lol I am so bad with instruction hah jk

@87ssstans 4 жыл бұрын

@@WRXGarage oh good idea! If I see any knock for sure I'll try that! My access port also came with Maperformance stage 1 lol

@geop3309 4 жыл бұрын

@@Dezanddavid I happen to see those on his website. Is there a big difference in the cobb ots to his ots tune? And they run well with the car and stuff

@tjbooger2508 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid as usual! I'll be a getting an in depth tune once I get the rest of my parts though. No AWD dyno out here on my island but we have a great local tuner that can get me dialed in. BTW, I installed my Carven catback and it sounds nasty with the grimmspeed j pipe 😎🤙🏽

@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Nice!!!!! Send us some sound clips on instagram!

@Davethehorse321 4 жыл бұрын

Once I pay off the car, which should align with my warranty running out, I’m going to do two things to the car. First I’m going to buy the stage 1 package from MAPerformance which has an OTS tune included when buying the AP from them. Then I will save up for the rest of the bolt ons and turbo back exhaust and then get her on the dyno and make some real numbers.

@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын

That's pretty much what I did! Good plan 👍

@Davethehorse321 4 жыл бұрын

WRXGarage do you think it’s worth initially getting the OTS tune then doing a dyno tune later? Or should I just save up and get the dyno tune done first?

@warsonmedia 4 жыл бұрын

Davethehorse OTS is good but pay the extra and just have it tuned specifically for your car.

@MoJoNinjaGarage 3 жыл бұрын

Great info! Thanks for the video.

@UnkRCP 3 жыл бұрын

If you haven't already. Join the Tuned By Ambot Group on Facebook.

@anubis1800 3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget about altitude and gas. Some body living in Louisiana would get different numbers from somebody living in Denver. Also, the difference between e85 and 91 or 93 octane would need drastically different tunes.

@jezzylawson936 3 жыл бұрын

He mentioned that

@saigoneze4465 4 жыл бұрын

First comment subie fam .Pro tune all the way

@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Protune coming in a couple months when I finally send it for parts 🤙

@wombo7317 8 күн бұрын

This video is 4 years old, but did he make you do a 1-4 wot pull?

@WRXGarage 8 күн бұрын

No, only pulls in specific gears. His methods may have changed tho

@craiplayz 3 жыл бұрын

Exhaust?

@cre8tivegarage157 4 жыл бұрын

Protune for the win!! All the time!!

@davidlara9913 2 жыл бұрын

Weird question… what email did you send your logs to? The email with the directions he sent me were a little hard to understand, haha

@wesleylopez7562 2 жыл бұрын

What is the price for an E Tune compared to a Protune? I would like to know specifically for Ambot since I am interested in doing it, thanks in advance

@jairoaguilar3838 2 жыл бұрын

Edge Autosport’s e-tune is like $250. While a pro tune can vary depending on the shop

@mathieupoitras9087 4 жыл бұрын

Is ambot willing to give a map for canadian winter / summer , cause ive beem looking on etune and i wonder if you log in hot summer and run the tune in very cold winter will it cause problem? Kinda worry me ...

@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын

It's the same thing here in CT. 100F summers, -10F winters. I'll have to see if it's affected! I'm sure he'll etune for Canada too.

@jeeyahnbrah3510 4 жыл бұрын

he etuned mine, im from alberta canada, made 330whp no corn

@hebegb1966 3 жыл бұрын

@@jeeyahnbrah3510 what mods do you have, and how did you verify whp? A virtual duno? I'm currently in the process of an etune with Ambot. I'm on my 2nd revision and I'm curious as to where I'll end up at with a stage 1+?

@kuzakid2072 4 жыл бұрын

how is the smell from the grimmspeed jpipe? thinking about getting it

@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын

It's catted so barely any smell at all!

@MrArmand2134 4 жыл бұрын

Catless smells good. You’ll learn to love it

@xManstah 3 жыл бұрын

For each stage of mods, what is the longest time you'd wait before getting tuned especially if your car is a daily? Not sure how long the car can handle the mods safely before being optimized by a tune

@xManstah 3 жыл бұрын

Also in this video where there any mods in particular you were tuning for?

@Mr.Wongburger 2 жыл бұрын

Each stage of mods there is an accompanied stage tune off the shelf. The key is making sure you are installing the proper off the shelf tune based on your installed mods. If you are using mods not recommended for the tune you will run into problems with your tune. If you are using the parts recommended for the tune you are running, there shouldn't be a problem. The ots tune from companies like cobb are made by professional tuners using their specific parts, so your tune will be very close. They will engineer safety into the tune though to account for the differences is atmosphere, fuel quality and other conditions you will have specific to where you live. It's the same concept as the oem tune for a completely stock car. The tune is "generic" but will last the lifetime of the car as long as you are using stock parts. If you want to think about it in a practical way. It's like going to Marshall's to buy a suit. Sure the suit will fit you, and you may be able to pick up a girl at the bar but it's going to take a few drinks. That's an off the shelf map. But, if you were to take the suit to a place to have it fitted to your specific body, the suit will look much better and that same girl may not need a drink to head back to your place. That's an etune. Now take that fitted suit to a fine Italian tailor shop to add the cuff links, brown leather shoes polished to a mirror shine and add a silk tie to the mix. That same girl at the bar is now buying you drinks. That's a protune. The etune is limited to your specific conditions but you don't know how to drive the car to get the exact information they need to really dial in the tune. The protune can set the dyno to drive very specific rpms and loads, they can add in boost by gear or rpm. Set 2 step to build boost from a stop, build in safety based on your temperature ranges such as winters dropping to 10 degrees in the north east compared to 50s for down south. And summers that reach low 90s for the north east but can hit 100 down south. I realize this is a long explanation, but it seems to be a common question.

@shatrel7117 Жыл бұрын

Anybody knows a good subie pro tuner in Florida 👀

@aaronderrick5721 4 жыл бұрын

Yo..what up guys..yo..dude..I can tell ur ass totally puckered when you saw that cop. Lol....hahaha..yo good info bro..definitely helpful I'm not far off from going with brenn tuning. Yo w e you guys throw a contest..I got some available parts I could donate as a reward r some shit..now ..I gotta go throw on this rexspeed carbon fiber duckbill... oh so sweeet....

@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that would be awesome!

@aaronderrick5721 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah and I just got to the end of the video again oh, and the sound of the exhaust you can hear it so nicely within the cabin, that thing sounds like a beast like snoring away or something and the engine just sounds like it's tuned exactly perfectly like the strings on a guitar

@outkast2oh9 2 жыл бұрын

What ots tune should I run for Cobb intake with box, aos Iag street, spt catback with nameless axle back and Cobb bypass valve? Stage 1 with 91 octane?

@WRXGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Stage 1+ 91 for Cobb intake. Cobb bypass valve needs a tune I think..

@bassfishingmn4867 Жыл бұрын

Quick question, did he ever turn your boost down during the time of logs when you loaded the map? And did your cold starts ever feel rough? What map did you run while waiting for his revisions? I am currently getting tuned with him and waiting for a 3rd revision

@WRXGarage Жыл бұрын

Yes, the initial maps were very low power so I have to assume they were low boost. Cold starts felt fine! I think I went through 10 revisions and I just ran whichever one was the latest when driving around town

@bassfishingmn4867 Жыл бұрын

@@WRXGarage sweet, thank you for the reply. How long did it take between revisions? I sent in my 1st logs and got the map the same night and then took about 2 days to get my 3rd map. Then sent in my 3rd map on Wednesday and haven’t gotten a reply since

@WRXGarage Жыл бұрын

I think the entire process took around 2-3 weeks for me. Just be patient 🤷‍♂️ he does good quality work and my tune was very reliable.

@xenocookin 4 жыл бұрын

This might be a dumb question but do you have to tune in order (stage 1 then 2 then 3) or can you get all the parts then go straight to stage 3?

@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын

There's no particular order you have to go in! Kevin's car has just a downpipe, alot of people start with just an intake. It all depends on what you want to do. The only important thing you need to do is get a good tune. New intake? Needs a tune. Add a jpipe? Needs a tune. Ethanol? Needs a tune. Boost controller? Needs a tune.

@TinkeringTom91 3 жыл бұрын

215 hp stock? I thought they came with around 265-268hp stock?

@WRXGarage 3 жыл бұрын

215 to the wheels! All wheel drive systems lose about 20% in the drivetrain.

@bighitmayfield646 3 жыл бұрын

310 to the crank.

@WRXGarage 3 жыл бұрын

The STI makes 310 to the crank, WRX makes 268

@Ace62595 2 жыл бұрын

Is it chill to run ots, intake, bpv and cat back long term??? That’s all I want so far.

@WRXGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Should be fine, just make sure you run 93 octane and the 91 stage 1+ tune.

@Ace62595 2 жыл бұрын

@@WRXGarage why run 91 ots when the pump is 93? Wouldn’t that mess it up?

@WRXGarage 2 жыл бұрын

No. 93 gas with 91 tune is SAFER than 91 gas with 91 tune.

@X3mSean 4 жыл бұрын

I purchased a Ambot etune for my 2019 STI, I’m just wondering how long it took to receive it. I have yet to hear anything back and it’s say 3. Online it says 24-48 hours

@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Usually takes within a week! He's been busier than usual

@X3mSean 4 жыл бұрын

WRXGarage appreciate it. I get nervous ordering from sites I never really see too much and the phone number goes straight to voicemail

@X3mSean 4 жыл бұрын

WRXGarage i recirved the email from him, but I cannot get the file over to the accessport. No matter what I do. How did you complete that? What computer did you use

@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Shoot us a DM on Instagram if you have it! Will be able to help you easier on there.

@subiegang4917 4 жыл бұрын

How long did the tuning process take?

@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын

About 3-4 weeks if I recall. Went through 10ish revisions

@anitabejay7227 3 жыл бұрын

Did you void warranty for dis

@josecarlosramirezrumbo52 Жыл бұрын

Depends

@MaseFade 3 жыл бұрын

did you add burble map or just custom tune?

@WRXGarage 3 жыл бұрын

No burble tune, just a normal 93! The car pops anyways on clutch in, upshifts and downshifts. Occasionally it'll burble on deccel too. It's not really safe to run burble tunes with a catted downpipe anyways

@MaseFade 3 жыл бұрын

WRXGarage yeah I that’s what I heard. You get more horsepower w the cat less downpipe tho! I’m in the process of an e-tune with Mtune and decided to keep my stock cat as I don’t want to go stage 2 just yet but I’m super eager for more exhaust noises. I’m on my 6th revision. Feels like there’s already more power that OTS from Cobb too. I love it

@WRXGarage 3 жыл бұрын

That's actually not true! Catless and catted downpipe are basically the same hp. To get more, you'll need to do ewg and headers anyways so there's no point to be catless with these cars.

@MaseFade 3 жыл бұрын

WRXGarage so going from stage 1+ to 2 are not much different?

@WRXGarage 3 жыл бұрын

Aftermarket catted jpipes/downpipes still add a ton of power because their diameter is wider and their cats are "high flow". I went from 220ish to about 265-270ish with just a catted jpipe and tune.