exactly , probably amd is own by ngreedia just so they can get pass monopoly laws. but i dont thing is fair keeping doging on amd while ngreedia does super..... prices.... and most tubers just kiss their ass....

well the price point of the 4060ti 16gb at 500$ is/was ludicrous to say the least. specially for a card that barely beats its last gen counterpart.

I'd say its a bit worse as its essentially a 16gb 7600 marketed as a 7600 xt

@@geekmechanic1473 the 4060's are glorified 4050's soo ensentially the same from amd and nvidia.

​@TheBirdsntheBees there is no need to swear they are both literally the same there was article saying that if Jensen and Lisa being cousins I cannot say why not they are literally the same I'm not suprised if they are family playing games on the consumers to see who extracts more money from them that's why they literally exists and the more they release bad products the more it is proven I'm not even surprised if intel is also close family to them altho it might be unlikely but we all can see that their greed is pretty similar to one another for example intel releasing a 600$ cpu that is barely any better than his previous gen counter part and now take a look at the gpu segment amd releasing a gpu with just more memory so they can call it "a new product" put on it a price tag and see which cow they gonna milk now same thing for amd doing almost the exact same thing with their 7600 rebranding put on it a bit more memory so they can call it "a new product" put on it a price tag and see who is gonna be the cow which they gonna extract money from I may have used different segments yet in the end its all related to computer parts intel doing it in the cpu segment and nvidia and amd doing in the gpu segment they literally act in the very same behavior they have no interest to compete you can see that's why I can see there is no need to expect anything from them as you can see they in the very same behavior the fact that anyone almost put 200-300$ different between almost each product iirc that is one reason I can see they don't want to compete the fact that amd just overpriced a cpu that could give them much more sales if they price it to be around 50$ more they could make much better market but you already can see they don't care about it. the fact they don't drop the price and secondly as someone said they will drop their products to the "grave" before even thave the chance to lower their cost. It just shows you that what they care is about extracting as much money as possible from the consumer and not to compete cuz they clearly don't want and who don't see that you better open your eyes and see cuz that is the truth and sad but that's why I'm is and thats how they make monopoly prices on their products.

It's looking suspicious for a long time now..

if you can't beat them, join them

Since 6000 launch i felt that peace of shit amd we need intel and new companies to join the gpu market china will shake up the whole prices if they can do a good gpus only if they invest dammmm

They pretend to be competitors, but neither one wants to give gamers good value or price to performance improvements

The consequences of what is effectively a duopoloy.

A mediocrity you could say. But can we get out of this mess is the question.

if you say "its good enough" it probably isnt

AMDone.

Jezus i Had same bug and problem my whole system was just frozen

6700XT if available for that price

Aye 6700xt or a regular 6800 if you want to stretch the budget a little.

Honestly the only reason this youtuber is complaining about the 7600xt is because he believed unreliable leaks and hyped himself without basis. Here is the reality of the 7600xt, it is a 330$ GPU with 16GB of RAM. No other graphics card come close to this in terms of ram in that price range. In terms of raster performance, well no official benchmark is out, but reliable leaks have been saying that it would be around 5% better than 7600 = 5% less than 6700xt. In other words for the same price you can get the 6700xt with 12Gb Ram but 5% extra raster or 7600xt with 16Gb of RAM ... In my opinion, it would come down to your usage if you do mostly pure gaming buy the 6700xt if you need the av1 encoding, plan to dab into some AI or general simulations chose the 7600XT. In the end the difference between the 2 is so little is negligible. Oh yes, the 7000 series used to come with a game bundle making it have an edge if this is still true. People compare this new gen (7000 series) to the 6000 when this last was recognized as one of the best GPUs produced in recent years in terms of price, performance and energy consumption. Since then many things changed in the world, covid, crypto mining boom, inflation ...... I am not saying this to justify or defend AMD but just to give a realistic portrait of the situation. In this situation we live in, AMD 7000 series are still in terms of price to performance similar to the 6000series meaning that any extra performance brought was matched by equivalent price hike. This is what maddens most people is that we got used to new gen bring more performance than price hike and i understand that. Honestly, if I was in your situation i would wait until the official benchmarks are out

1080p with 165Hz is the way to go. Once you go up from a 60Hz monitor there ain't no way going back to that crappy 60Hz. It is so much smoother and easier on the eyes. Can focus on targets so much easier. Not to mention web page scrolling is so butter smooth too.

Exactly! These people think everyone lives in the US and can get a 6700xt for 300 usd this GPU is a good deal for Europe

higher textures ai vram limites image edeting avi encoding and vram limites for encoding etc and alot of other stuff. but if your gona just game then a 7600 is fine .

they have a deal. sus.

Look what AMD has been doing for the last 15 years. Offering better product with better price did not really give them to gain more people buying their stuff. Why they need to keep doing such thing and hurt themselves in the process? At this point AMD just content to get the little market share they can get from GPU rather than going all out war with nvidia. The real money is on CPU market and now AI.

Or 7600 16gb, like the 4060TI 16gb. Because almost nothing changes

8GB GPUs will be able to hit minimum specs for a while yet. I'd agree thatg 8GB is probably more of an entry level GPU.

Neither are 128-bit GPUs. 192-bit should be the lowest.

A lot of the higher-end stuff with good VRAM has been being bought for AI purposes -- the current 'crypto boom.'

Agreed. Somehow a first time gpu maker can include more VRAM and memory bandwidth than the big name players. C'mon Battlemage!

W

Hate for companies is a waste of time.

As you should, no company is your friend, always be skeptical, never be a fanboy.

BS. The contender of the RTX3050 was and is the RX6600. 2022 Nvidia released the GTX1630, which is really shitty.

@@rob4222 3050 contender to the 6600 LOL what benchmarks have you been looking at buddy... also yes nvidia released the 1630 and yes its really shitty and it has a good name for it that shows thats it a really shitty gpu. x30 gpus are basically display outputs.

@@Eric-ct2ri I'm looking at prices! The 3050 costs even more compared to the faster 6600

@@rob4222 it didnt on release tho... the rx6600 release msrp was 330$ same as the 3060... so the 6600 was intented to compete with the 3060. current prices dont mean a thing other than nvidia doesnt reduce prices.

@@Eric-ct2ri 😂 Ok, then pay MSRP. I'll take the market prices

and what happen if battlemage fail? gonna said to wait until and 8000 series? and what happen if amd fail too? gonna said wait until 50 series? what u see in the leaked future gpu benchmark is the high end gpu class not the lower clasess. stop saying like that my dude, upgrading from 10 series to 40 series is considered worth it. unless you have 30 series and try to upgrade to 40 series and that doesnt worth it. if you really want to upgrade the gpu just do it my guy. follow your heart

im still using my 1050 ti as daily gpu tho. and in march i planned to upgrade it into 4070 super. like i said if you still in 10 series upgrading to 40 series is worth it. people not gonna mad at you

@@alahanputra221 Battlemage better not fail... Intel is the last hope at this point. If Intel really wants some share, they better not screw up Battlemage.

@@alahanputra221 lol.. who angry at me? My heart says Battlemage and was my decision to wait for Battlemage before I bought a card (made the decision at least half a yr ago)and I guess I'm sticking to my decision. I was hoping though more price dropping between AMD and nVidia before Battlemage comes out. But maybe in few months nVidia /AMD come out with the 4060 Ti 16GB Super.. 7700xt 16 GB.. Yes.. it has to be 16 GB. No Super for me!

@@purgedome2386 well hope it goes well for battlemage then, because when battlemage come out, 50 series amd 8000 series launched with pcie gen 5 and gddr7 ready, while rumor on battlemage now that only the fastest/ highest tier spec card using gddr7 and pcie 5 while the lower still using gddr6/6x and pcie gen 4. BUT!. i hope the price that battlemage give doesnt crazy as nvidia does

Its probably because of higher TDP or better silicon from a more mature node needing less energy.

Your buying this garbage lmao.

@@ZackSNetwork Im going to wait for a sale but its not garbage, the original didn't have enough ram and if it doesn't have a big enough sale before RDNA4 comes out later this year I will wait for it. Like I said, the original needed more ram and this has it. I am coming from a 1650 super so it will be a big boost.

​@@oswaldmosley6179Don't listen to all these people. Buy the best thing within your budget and have fun. The whole world is filled with people that blindly parrot other's opinions instead of forming their own. Are there better options? Absolutely but is it worth $200-$300 more just to get maybe 20 more fps in some situations? Not to me. 1440p 60hz is the sweet spot in my opinion for value and not having to run your system at 100% usage constantly. I've got an Acer Nitro 5 laptop with Ryzen 5600H/RTX 3060 95w version that I got for $650. I upgraded to 2x16GB 2RX8 RAM and added a 1TB WD SN850X. I've only got $800 invested and I can play games like Lies of P at 60fps with all settings on Ultra using DLSS Quality at 1440p on my HP Omen 27q monitor (LG panel; $189 Black Friday) and my gpu usage is still only 50%-75%. I could play at higher fps but I'm not try to shorten the life of the hardware by constantly running at 100% 60fps is smooth and consistent which is not taxing on the hardware even at 1440p. I'm just looking for a good gaming experience. I'm not trying to brag or compete with someone else's setup. It's hard to get quality advice when it comes to PC gaming because there's always something better if you just spend more money. You can definitely achieve a pleasant experience with your budget. I would much rather have the extra VRAM for quality enhancements than worrying about only FPS.

​@@oswaldmosley6179 Don't listen to all these people. Buy the best thing within your budget and have fun. The whole world is filled with people that blindly parrot other's opinions instead of forming their own. Are there better options? Absolutely but is it worth $200-$300 more just to get maybe 20 more fps in some situations? Not to me. 1440p 60hz is the sweet spot in my opinion for value and not having to run your system at 100% usage constantly. I've got an Acer Nitro 5 laptop with Ryzen 5600H/RTX 3060 95w version that I got for $650. I upgraded to 2x16GB 2RX8 RAM and added a 1TB WD SN850X. I've only got $800 invested and I can play games like Lies of P at 60fps with all settings on Ultra using DLSS Quality at 1440p on my HP Omen 27q monitor (LG panel; $189 Black Friday) and my gpu usage is still only 50%-75%. I could play at higher fps but I'm not try to shorten the life of the hardware by constantly running at 100% 60fps is smooth and consistent which is not taxing on the hardware even at 1440p. I'm just looking for a good gaming experience. I'm not trying to brag or compete with someone else's setup. It's hard to get quality advice when it comes to PC gaming because there's always something better if you just spend more money. You can definitely achieve a pleasant experience with your budget. I would much rather have the extra VRAM for quality enhancements than worrying about only FPS.

@@oswaldmosley6179 6700 XT will stomp this shitty 16 GB card at the same price.

But it not will be terrible option if will be in reasonable price. Right?

@@youtuberesearch7017 yes if they were a reasonable price they would be fine like their actual worth to me as a consumer is $400 at most for the 4060ti 16gb and for the 7600xt 16gb $299. $20 dollar difference at most between the 7600 and 7600xt.

6700xt and 6750xt will be faster than this crap 16gb card nobody asked for. We wanted a 7600xt with additional cores and 192 bit bus, not a 4060Ti copy. 299 would be a better price but doesn't change the fact that AMD is out of touch with consumers. Before this there was the 7700xt and 7900xt etc.

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat I watched the AMD CES event and 80% of it was about AI... Is it a surprise that the 7600 XT turned out to be as is? Both AMD and NVIDIA are about AI now, they don't care about the gaming market anymore.

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombatBoth companies are a bit out of touch to say the least. I mean I went 7900XT over the 4070ti simply because it has 20GB VRAM and overall in my games it was 10% - 15% faster than he 4070ti. They were both the same price at the time. At least now 4070ti Super 16GB could be a good product but we will see price and availability. Paper launches are paper launches no matter what they print.

they want 4090 pefromance for 100 bucks . that is what people want .. problem is companys need to make money for the development of sowftware and hardware

That’s a lot of if’s. This is why I don’t buy AMD GPU’s. Everything is a hope game and they always fail to deliver.

@@ZackSNetwork Both companies have hits and misses. I still have and like the rx 580, Vega 56, 6700xt, and 6800xt as well as the 1080ti and 3060ti. I'd feel disappointed if I would have paid a premium for a card that either had too little VRam, didn't have the same feature set on the next series, or had many people experiencing major problems with the power connectors on the top and most expensive cards while their competitor's reference model top cards have had some issues, as well. I just think this particular generation is not up to par whether it be due to hardware, software, or cost.

Yes, it's really disappointing, that FSR3 is available for everyone

@@rob4222 doesnt change the fact that amd gpus are disappointing now does it...

​@@rob4222 lol where is the beta FSR3 available ? In 3 unpopular games. Lol

And NVIDIA is any better?

@@SergeantThug ofcourse not but obviously this is a video about amd and its new gpu is it not...

It is always great to have options. Would be nice to get 5th DLSS preset. But 4K + DLSS Performance is in the ballpark of 1440p + DLSS Ultra Quality, since it upscales from 1080p res, which is higher than 960p - Quality setting at 1440p. And it looks better than 1440p/DLSS.Q too. As concerns 4K, Ultra Quality preset would not make any big difference - Quality looks very good at 4K.

What is a good card in your opinion in that price range?

​@@rob4222 6750xt for 340 usd

As much as I want to dislike Nvidia, the feeling that the 'underdog' (AMD) is not delivering is making me not even want to touch an AMD graphics card. They think just because their cards have more VRAM, makes their products worth a premium.

@@kotztotz3530 Hope Intel Battlemage will deliver something worthy.

Buy the 4060 and have fun in the future with 8GB

@@rob4222 The 4060 also sucks. Both AMD and NVIDIA sucks this generation in the low to mid range category.

@@laszlozsurka8991 That's why I bought a 6700XT instead. Hopefully cheaper cards in the next generations are more worthy

undervalue what vlue do the gpus have if they dont sell. the shareholders have to grow a brain and realize that an invasive market (mining) affected prices and now that that market has died down they cant sustain those prices. current prices for amd and nvidia are targeted at mining and not gaming.

@@Eric-ct2ri They simply changed the target from mining to AI.

@@Rushtallica its different tho cause mining used the consumer gpus and ai primarely uses the data center/enterprise gpus... hence why you can still go out and buy a gpu if you want one cause ai isnt causing people to buy out all the stock of gpus...

@@Eric-ct2ri I've heard reports that they've gone after the higher end gaming GPUs with high RAM, as well.

@@Rushtallica still not the same as when mining was in full swing eitherway now is it... literally nothing was avaible when m ining was profitable where as gpus are available with ai.

yeah well what they say doesnt matter since they will be the underdog until the day they overtake nvidia. but what they said was more along the line of they dont want to be seen as the budget brand. but thats toobad cause the budget brand is what they will remain until they stop following in nvidia's footsteps.

AMD said they are not a budget company anymore. They never said they aren’t the underdog.

You are factually wrong if it’s slower than the 6700xt how the hell is it replacing it lmao. The 6700xt has more rasterization performance and has a 192bit bus over it’s 128bit bus.

@@ZackSNetwork Dude carefully read my comment. I said the 7600XT is 5-10% less in performance compared to the 6700XT. We're on the same page. AMD is screwing us. AMD is phasing out the RX 6700XT and giving us something worse for the same price.

This is AMD equivalent of 3060, which had more VRAM, than it could ever possibly use. 7600XT having 16GB of VRAM is probably due to the falling prices of GDDR6.

@@CyberClu People should just wait until the 7700 XT drops to the 6700 XT price, which shouldn't take long given how the 7800 XT was $499.

@@laszlozsurka8991 Unless of course another crypto gpu minding bubble starts up near the end of the year. Wah-waaaaah.

THEY ARE RELATED

AMD still sells really well now on DIY market. They practically hit ceiling for now. Many store data shows even 50/50 split (like on mind factory). Most of sale differences come from not being so present in OEM and especially laptop space. And maybe actually better estimate for how much these will sell on market to get a better reviews and less videos like that. Sadly marketing is going wild place, but seems most of people want that, seen many talking 'why AMD doesn't hype features like nvidia'. Average consumer doesn't know much so sadly bullshit marketing sells.

AMD is showing that the 7600XT would be a good product, if you want to upgrade from a 2060. Much more performance and VRAM

@@rob4222 So does the 6700 XT with 12gb, and maybe the 3060 12gb (in comparisson with the 2060 6gb) there are upgrade options, what I would like to see is the 7600 XT to compete with the 4060 or even the Ti in performance at $300,00 msrp, that would be a bargain, but if it is just an overclocked 7600 at $350,00 then it's gonna be DOA

@@CrashD6 It will be get cheaper. Buying on release date is often a mistake

@@rob4222 I hope it does, 16gb of VRAM on the cheap is a great deal, 12gb is good, but how long will it last? With the way the latest releases devour VRAM even on 1080p

Would this card work best at 1080p?

The 4090 is a joke with that price tag.

@@georgesmith5201 More than likely you are just Poor. Dont be Poor.

​@@NBWDOUGHBOY 4090? lmao dumbass, the entire line of 12vhpwr is a joke..... 600w at 40c is gonna melt that thing but sureeeeee

@@georgesmith5201 no lol considering that 3090 Ti is MUCH more priced than a 4090 the 4090 itself is actually a very good value product even 60% more value if you upgrade from like a 3090 but the problem is the midrange stack isnt getting that good of value aswell thats what makes people angry also your comment is a joke

@@Eleganttf2 Ah yes, comparing an incredibly overpriced product by a company to another incredibly overpriced product made by the same company and thinking you have a great deal. 😂 Brain dead consumers is why companies like Apple and Nvidia think they can get away with anything.

will it with that anemic bandwidth tho...

@@Eric-ct2ri AN RX 580 will still play Cyberpunk and the rest in 1080p today. In 5 years you will still be doing that in 1440p with this card.

​@@davefroman4700 yeah not well and cyberpunk isnt releasing in 4 to 5 years and the rx 580 was a higher tier gpu comparativly than the 7600 is even if the 7600 is a faster gpu overall now it will fall off much faster than the rx 580 did... rx 580 256bit bus and bandwidth of 256.0 GB/s rx 7600 128bit bus and bandwidth of 288.0 GB/s

Did you not even watch the video? The 6700 xt exists. That's literally why most people is disappointed with the 7600 xt because it's competing with an already popular card with future proof amount of vram for 1080p gaming. In 4-5 years, heck even now in some games the 7600 xt won't have enough raster performance to max out its Vram. Even with your Rx 580 argument, I've owned a 5500 xt 8gb(basically a more efficient 580) and even then it struggles to fill up its Vram due to me playing at low-medium anyways. Also with your cyberpunk argument, the 580 only uses 5gb of vram at 1080p, not maxing out its Vram at all because it can't properly run ultra. Tldr: the 6700 xt stays winning.

oh you silly silly blind amd fanboy...

the rx5500 was a oem card ie for dell/hp and what not to sell to customers and the 5500xt has both 4 and 8gb models... a little bit a of research helps you know.

There is a 5500xt 4gb lol

​@@Eric-ct2ri I didn't say the 5500 was available in stores 😜 I think you've heard of the straw-man argument?

@@rob4222 and? the 5500xt's are not called 5500xt for the 4gb and xtx for the 8gb. the ram and slight higher clocks do not require them to put xt at the end of the 7600. otherwise aibs should call their overclocked ones 7600xt rather than just 7600...

@@rob4222 you did say that the 5500xt had 8gb instead of a 4gb comapred to the 5500 as if it didnt also have 4gb models. so you are not honest. you are suggesting that the oem 5500 is the 4gb model and xt is the 8gb model when the 5500xt has both 4gb and 8gb models. while they are similar its a different situation cause it would be the equivalent of them calling the 8gb 5500xtx and the 4gb 5500xt.

Why do you say "...the historical improvements in performance at lower costs for each generation of devices just isn't possible anymore"?

@@slimal1 Ever since around 1975, when a company designed and built a new generation of semiconductor product, the engineering cost and production production cost to make a batch of them increased linearly, but the benefits and number of devices per batch improved by a square, so the cost always fell for the consumer. So total ost would be ( 2) x ( prior cost) but benefit would be ( prior benefits) squared. The technology is reaching the limits of physics and now the cost to engineer and produce a new product is more like the benefits are linear and the cost increase is exponential. A product improvement like just the speed increase of the rx 7600 xt still takes a lot of work, but not a full new generation. The new board to work at the higher speed and more memory still costs $millions to do, but not $ billion so it is viable. A complete child redesign like some people imagined might happen would have cost $ almost a Billion, so it's not worth it for anyone.