Brandywine Wargame: "Professional Historians vs. Professional Wargamers"

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2 жыл бұрын

The wait is over! Check out our interactive wargame between the "wargaming professionals" of ‪@LittleWarsTV‬ and the "professional historians" led by the American Battlefield Trust's own Garry Adelman. In August you guys were able to take the roles of George Washington and British General William Howe and vote on critical decisions during the battle. Watch now to see how your commands turned out! Will they affect the outcome of one of the largest battles of the Revolutionary War?
The wargame has two endings. You can visit each here:
Ending #1, Support Sullivan: • Ending #1 Support Sull...
Ending #2, Retreat to Dilworth: • Ending #2 Secure the R...
Check out the instructional video from Little Wars TV to learn how we played the game: • Learn to Play Live Fre...

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@AmericanBattlefieldTrust 2 жыл бұрын

Check out the instructional video from Little Wars TV to learn how we played the game: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/etWaariXmNe1kaM.html

@anonymousshawn9996 2 жыл бұрын

Retreat in an orderly fashion to Dilworth but halfway to the city, have the separate groups draw straws on who has to stay behind to stall the enemy chase while their main forces combine at the city. The stall tactics should provide enough time to entrench and reinforce the city.

@elmogreen107 2 жыл бұрын

Yo this is soo cool can you guys get more going? If possible it looks like a lot of work. But fun. lol

@AmericanBattlefieldTrust 2 жыл бұрын

@@elmogreen107 Check out the Little Wars TV channel for tons of videos!

@kongfeet81 2 жыл бұрын

referee: *HOW DID THAT SQUAD OF ULTRA MARINES GET ON THE TABLE?*

@sjonnieplayfull5859 2 жыл бұрын

Drop pods probably

@SlocumJoe7740 2 жыл бұрын

"General Washington it appears the Orks have committed to a Waaaaghhh at our flank"

@logoseven3365 2 жыл бұрын

Heavy flamers

@MRTHECOLONEL10000 2 жыл бұрын

Heresy DETECTED!

@Monkeyshaman 2 жыл бұрын

@@SlocumJoe7740 roll for animosity.

@bumponalog5001 2 жыл бұрын

"General Washington, who are those giant metal men tearing apart the Redcoats?!" "Son, the Emperor protects."

@magicmanscott40k 2 жыл бұрын

Nice

@MrTwiglet 2 жыл бұрын

Emperor George III?

@etherealhawk 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrTwiglet based

@Tiwaz81 2 жыл бұрын

The emperor would be on our side..

@SonsOfLorgar 2 жыл бұрын

*Samus is the man beside you...* The XVII Legio Astartes has arrived...

@livingadreamlife1428 2 жыл бұрын

Fall back to Dillworth. Maintain the line of retreat. Then, call in an F/A18 Strike to regain the initiative.

@curtisbrown547 2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget to deepstrike your terminators W/ lighting claws behind enemy lines to cause disruption

@SonsOfLorgar 2 жыл бұрын

@@curtisbrown547 at night, in their camp... *Ave Dominus Nox*

@RLKmedic0315 2 жыл бұрын

@@curtisbrown547 I prefer the Thunder Hammer and Shield option to the claws. And sometimes you can use a few well placed Bike Squads can cause just as much disruption. (I am a White Scars player :) )

@Glorfindel_117 2 жыл бұрын

NO JOKE: I thought this was a video for the Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game doing a scenario at the Brandywine Bridge in The Shire. But I guess I'll watch anyway??

@furimindustries3410 2 жыл бұрын

That would be something I would watch

@OTwrath 2 жыл бұрын

Same lol. But they have actually done an amazing job with this video!! I love the snippet of history and background at the beginning.

@blackfoot1178 2 жыл бұрын

That's where I know brandywine from, love battle for middle earth 2 age of the ring

@sintua 2 жыл бұрын

Feeding the Algorithm. This was genuinely delightful, and then You hit with me with the two endings!? **chef kiss**

@Soul-Clutch-Man 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure how I got here but….

@grozwald 2 жыл бұрын

This is how I know I'm getting older. When I start to move from the Warhammer table to the historical table.

@lazarusdesboix9940 2 жыл бұрын

Is it really sutch a bad thing? I mean look at how much fun their having lol

@billcaldwell2755 2 жыл бұрын

Dang it Garry, you're ruining my life. I barely get done on your Gettysburg walks and now I have to see the Brandywine Wargame. I guess I'll play Ultimate General while I'm waiting...

@AmericanBattlefieldTrust 2 жыл бұрын

Antietam 159 coming Thursday through Saturday!

@Alex-ej4wm 2 жыл бұрын

Hope ultimate general comes out with a revolutionary war game soon. I remember hearing there's one in the works.

@flyingsquirrel1135 2 жыл бұрын

Which version of ultimate General?

@ANZACJugger0 2 жыл бұрын

@@Alex-ej4wm That would be fun. Im currently stuck on the second day of shiloh. Completely run out of ammo and steam. Cant take the union on but cant sit idly by

@Alex-ej4wm 2 жыл бұрын

@@ANZACJugger0 Yeah that one's a slugfest and so early in the game. Good luck👍

@richc7338 2 жыл бұрын

I love the alternate history options you incorporate into these wargames. Keep this series coming!

@jczanorrax6365 2 жыл бұрын

This is actually so cool, basically boomer warhammer

@goatman9998 2 жыл бұрын

Lol ill give boomers a point for this one

@francislelievre5172 2 жыл бұрын

I really hope you realise that wargames predate boomers and that warhammer is a parody of earlier scifi wargames.

@kuragh 2 жыл бұрын

Big Warhams player here, but I can tell you now, these guys are hardcore. I've played similiar scale historic wargames... and it is way more intense in its own way than 40k /AOS. Id love to have a run with these boomers, especially with the historic knowledge in the room.

@farpointgamingdirect 2 жыл бұрын

Warhammer sucks...

@tombkings6279 2 жыл бұрын

I thought Warhammer was also for boomers

@IXSICNESS 2 жыл бұрын

This is a fascinating concept. Just found this channel and if this type of content is a consistent part of the channel I'm definitely subbing.

@g0lgrim1 2 жыл бұрын

Realy nice concept for a tabletop game... the historical background with the alternate history choices born from vote and reactions to this from the other players with historical true troop counts and terrain. Love it.

@Lucian1227 2 жыл бұрын

I did my undergrad internship at the Brandywine battlefield. It was awesome.

@0larue0 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you guys for making this. Absolutely loved it. Felt like I was there with you guys, having a great time!

@stuartpriest8868 2 жыл бұрын

Loved this, great idea and nicely done. As a Brit the whole What If thing is intriguing. Keep up the good work.

@flyingsquirrel1135 2 жыл бұрын

THERE ARE PROFESSIONAL WARGAMERS? MARTHA GET THE KREIGSPEIL SET!

@nickmcg 2 жыл бұрын

That historian is such a nerd. I love it, reminds me of me.

@julianbrown8572 2 жыл бұрын

I served with a British regiment that the Brandywine battle honour on their beret.

@hoosieryank6731 2 жыл бұрын

I thought the Brits didn't count battles fought against the Yanks for battle honors.

@marleymatthews7633 2 жыл бұрын

@@hoosieryank6731 I'm British not actually sure I'll have to look that up don't really learn about the war of independence at school

@hoosieryank6731 2 жыл бұрын

@@marleymatthews7633 Clarification: The War for Independence. I'm certain they included the War of 1812! :-) I was told that the AWI didn't count as it was technically an "insurrection."

@marleymatthews7633 2 жыл бұрын

@@hoosieryank6731 I'm really going to have to do my research because both wars aren't taught in British school so I'm really not familiar with this subject but I am interested init though recently

@julianbrown8572 2 жыл бұрын

@@hoosieryank6731 I don’t think on regimental colours, this was a red cloth triangle sew on the beret behind the regimental badge.

@traviswebb3532 6 ай бұрын

This is so cool. Went and subscribed to little wars tv right after i finished this battle video. I hope to see more of this kind of video along with the other great videos you guys make.

@rinzler9171 2 жыл бұрын

This is actually pretty cool. I'm going to pause it and come back later because I feel the video and intelligence involved requires full attention and right now mine is divided.

@mr.e1944 2 жыл бұрын

Greg, what a great set of videos! You have done a excellent job. Great location, great players and amazing looking game boards and miniatures. Keep up the great work!

@cyberdwarf-ng1gf 2 жыл бұрын

this is so well made, i cannot believe it. thank you

@starrmont4981 2 жыл бұрын

This was a really well put together video. I'm not really into historical games myself, but I could tell everyone was having fun, and that made it fun to watch.

@johnurbanek94 2 жыл бұрын

This was great! Please make more of these!!

@Morgabr1 3 ай бұрын

What a great way to look at a historical battle!

@jaysartori9032 2 жыл бұрын

I love history at this part I'll with order and orderly fashion retreat so that we live to fight another day. P.S Keep this series going"!

@jossypoo 2 жыл бұрын

As a military history major and warhammer gamer, i subbed after 35s. Great quality, amazing balance of concept in gaming and history. Excited to dig into your backlog!

@thunderccr5056 2 жыл бұрын

How many Teddy bears were slaughtered making four battlefields???😉 great game chaps!

@JoeXTheXJuggalo1 2 жыл бұрын

Now this is a interesting video. I like historical military battles and I play military table top and board games myself. You have my curiosity to see what else is on your channel.

@jc3791 2 жыл бұрын

im happy that this was recommended to me, im always intrigue with strategy games/battles even tho im not good at it

@paulpeterson4216 2 жыл бұрын

I was a tabletop gamer for many years, though not for a while. I was mostly into Napoleonics, but MOL the same era as this. The problem that the historians will have is that the gamers will know the intricacies of the game mechanics far far far better than they will. It would be like me vs. Ernie Banks at 1960s era fantasy baseball. He may know the players far better than me, but I know the game system and he doesn't. It would be (almost) as unfair a contest as he vs me in a home run derby.

@202rancher 2 жыл бұрын

In these matches with a referee, they try and keep it cool. Of course you point still stands correct. But the referee tend to advise and explain about game mechanics during play as to give more info on how to deal with it. Making it not that much one sided.

@Lilitha11 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like leaving several of the fords completely undefended kind of negates the point of using the river as a defense.

@FimiliarGalaxy9 2 жыл бұрын

I guess there weren’t enough corps

@Sapoman2211 2 жыл бұрын

They didn't have enough troops, just like IRL

@cryamistellimek9184 2 жыл бұрын

Well spreading yourself out covering a multitude of points that could be broken through with a concentrated force is a worse decision then just relying on the river. If you don’t have the troops spreading yourself thin is an even worse option.

@GrayArmyGaming 2 жыл бұрын

This gave me so many ideas for future projects! Thanks so much! 😊👍

@renegadewolfhound8786 2 жыл бұрын

So fun! I wish the tables had a North arrow to easier orient myself when looking at the maps.

@ryuaki8413 2 жыл бұрын

This is phenomenal. What an amazing channel

@aidenbodycoat3681 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video that randomly popped up well worth the watch

@FrankWolfeUDL 2 жыл бұрын

Love the team aspect, makes the battle massive

@soylentg6270 2 жыл бұрын

After Living in Delaware near Cooch's Bridge and working in Philly for 6 years all of this is really real for me. Been to many of these places. Cool channel.

@chandlerg179 2 жыл бұрын

love the optional ending! very cool video!

@dylansager6854 2 жыл бұрын

yalll are so friggen nerdy for history I LOVE ITTT

@DiegoTorres-mh3mv 2 жыл бұрын

The voice acting is such a nice touch!

@JimJonesKoolaid 2 жыл бұрын

YOU GUYS ARE SO AWESOME!!!!!! I love both channels!

@markcrampton5549 2 жыл бұрын

Gary's working that Tricorn!

@TheRendar 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Thank you for sharing.

@VL1975 2 жыл бұрын

Love that miniature wargaming is still played. Used to play DBA back in high school 30 yrs ago.

@spectredeadgaming7874 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t even play table top strategy games and was still entertained

@brodi4894 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, great video, well done!

@fuzzblightyear145 2 жыл бұрын

After watching several of Brandon's videos on the War of Independence, it's such a fascinating period of history miltarily and politically. But this is what the school books lack when they say "X won the battle of Y", in the details of the actual tactical engagement. Great video guys, thanks

@Funkman3140 2 жыл бұрын

why is this so awesome? please do more like this!

@AmericanBattlefieldTrust 2 жыл бұрын

Check out the Little Wars TV channel for endless wargaming!

@donkoltz1 2 жыл бұрын

This is awesome, thanks everyone!

@gowensbach2998 2 жыл бұрын

I love your interactive idea.

@crabobserver 2 жыл бұрын

Cool Consept, great execution

@dominicvucic8654 2 жыл бұрын

I would love one of these for the Antietam

@Alex-ej4wm 2 жыл бұрын

If you can make it to the Brandywine Battlefield it's beautiful this time of year.

@pedroorpheus 2 жыл бұрын

Love this!

@boevoy_homyachok 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! It's fabulous!

@MrGUYWITHFACE 2 жыл бұрын

So cool thanks for posting

@minsapint8007 2 жыл бұрын

Great wargame and I loved the commentary.

@Gomgo22 2 жыл бұрын

Brandywine is threatened every year. To my perception the only thing saving it is a petition called Save The Valley Initiative.

@Arelak 2 жыл бұрын

This is really cool!

@gagaplex 2 жыл бұрын

Aw, I thought there'd be a tabletop about the area surrounding the Brandywine in the Shire.

@gregorym7588 2 жыл бұрын

I drive by this every day!

@CodyChepa88 2 жыл бұрын

Glad this popped up in my recommended

@toocompettoochill7716 2 жыл бұрын

What an excellent idea!

@kbforme 2 жыл бұрын

Washington was great at grand strategy, not so great at battlefield tactics. I'm honestly not familiar with the decision that Washington made but a general retreat with a rearguard action seems like the only choice to make here.

@Davis12249 2 жыл бұрын

Such a cool idea wish I could smash like more than once!

@shinodamasaru7945 2 жыл бұрын

Now I'm invested in this battle.

@troybroderick9065 2 жыл бұрын

good for you guys. happy to subscribe and bring more attention to an educational history youtube channel. you all seem really great! keep it up!

@aaronread-delossantos5155 2 жыл бұрын

Really interesting video and concept 👌

@mr.cracker3085 2 жыл бұрын

I lived next to the brandywine river four a few years

@placebo5466 2 жыл бұрын

this is the nerdiest thing i think I've found on youtube and I love it.

@russellhodgkiss7494 2 жыл бұрын

This was great! I was surprised that the opposite of my choice worked out the best. 🤦🏻‍♂️

@ThePatriot1123 2 жыл бұрын

I’ll say the US Army subscribes to the theory that this was not a “humiliating defeat.” Washington’s army-not the city- was his center of gravity. It survived, so the tactical loss didn’t turn into a strategic loss

@stephennutt4083 Жыл бұрын

Great stuff bobbleheadgeorge - Im a history teacher in the UK and your stuff is great

@grandpanurgle 2 жыл бұрын

This is very impressive

@druid_zephyrus 2 жыл бұрын

Oh gods. The pressure. This is so much easier when I am the DM. Okay, we can't get pincered. But flank is holding. We gotta pull pack and hold that town. We have to play dirty. Guerrilla tactics initiated. We shall fight street by street and window by window! ONWARD MEN!!!!

@barowt 2 жыл бұрын

This was super neat y'all! Any chance y'all could do the battle of 1812?

@eugene4270 10 ай бұрын

Awesome!

@ximbabwe0228 2 жыл бұрын

17:18 I love this 😂

@deathmagnetic300 2 жыл бұрын

This is amazing! One question, how did you resolve a battle at a Ford that isn't on a table?

@sjonnieplayfull5859 2 жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same

@Monkeyshaman 2 жыл бұрын

Winner gets naming rights just like they did in the before times. Hence _harried son Ford_ rather than _killiam Al ford_

@PenumbranWolf 2 жыл бұрын

I cannot in good conscience leave a compatriot to die, I declare aid for Sullivan.

@Gomorragh 2 жыл бұрын

a tactic used by the romans, caltrops (tribulus) on the fjords of the rivers where they could be completely missed and cause massive losses while in treacherous terrain. This is something that is mainly forgotton on early to mid gunpowder wars.

@jesussandoval9843 2 жыл бұрын

This is like adult action figures and I’m all for it

@spaceface8885 2 жыл бұрын

Middle school teachers who know table top war games!!!? Where were youuuuuuu when I was in school

@Nick-yw2no 2 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, Howe was ordered to move toward Philadelphia, by one lord Germaine, from within England.

@kazama6245 2 жыл бұрын

Those reenactor always look well fed!😂🤣😂🤣

@xannyofficial 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know why I watched this, but im glad.

@seang474 2 жыл бұрын

Gary looks exhausted in this video. Hope you are well brother.

@antonius6344 2 жыл бұрын

divide the southern army into a main force to send north and a contingency force to scout and prepare dillsworth

@fds7476 2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: When measured by length or number of soldiers deployed, the largest battle of the American Revolutionary War was... the Siege of Gibraltar in Spain. It lasted three and a half years and involved nearly 80,000 soldiers. Which just serves to show that at the end of the day, the American Revolution _was_ a global conflict.

@spankthatdonkey 2 жыл бұрын

Tease! Hoo Aahhh!

@Waluigi_Wahp 2 жыл бұрын

Huh. Neat. Nathaniel Greene was my *some number of greats* grandfather. Wasn't expecting to see him crop up in a random youtube suggestion.

@philipm4585 2 жыл бұрын

"so my first Battalion shoots at your Dreadnought and does......no Damage because it's a Giant Mech...wait this isn't Historically Accurataaaaand he won"

@queebles3183 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t wait for virtual reality gets advanced enough to be able to reenact this battle from the first person

@EasyEight3674 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder how it would have played had the American players decided to do an assault on the British rather than a broad defense -- tables turned, perhaps??

@FormerGovernmentHuman 2 жыл бұрын

That’s a very napoleon play, engage them in sections before they can communicate and while they are marching away from eachother to begin the broad assault

@vanpallandt5799 2 жыл бұрын

I doubt the Revolutionary Army of 1777 was capable of an attack on British regulars

@cryamistellimek9184 2 жыл бұрын

@@vanpallandt5799 It may have been possible if they were drilled enough and had accurate maps. The issue was that they simply didn’t have enough coordination at the time.

@vanpallandt5799 2 жыл бұрын

@@cryamistellimek9184 thats what i said...they lacked the training and coordination.

@GenuineNPC 2 жыл бұрын

Please, more of this, oh KZfaq gods...

@marekpetr2905 2 жыл бұрын

I saw brandywine and was like "is this the battle in shire from lord of the rings?"

@a05odst62 2 жыл бұрын

Those British uniforms are lit!

@Sharky4152 2 жыл бұрын

Man, we really can't catch a break on thst day can we

@karenowen9365 2 жыл бұрын

Why does George Washington sound like Martin Sheen as Robert E. Lee?

@AmericanBattlefieldTrust 2 жыл бұрын

😀

@natewatts195 2 жыл бұрын

I’m ok with it. Although wouldn’t it be crazy if war movie actors played as their characters in a war game. Martin Sheen as General Lee. Jeff Daniels playing as George Washington. James Isaacs plays as Colonel Tavington (Tarlton). I could definitely see Mel Gibson showing up and playing as Benjamin Martin.