Conan O’Brien gets serious about silliness | American Masters

Conan O’Brien gets serious about silliness | American Masters | PBS

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On July 16, 2008, Conan O’Brien spoke about his style of late night and his reason for doing comedy. Interview conducted by director Michael Kantor for the six-hour PBS comedy series, “Make ‘Em Laugh: The Funny Business of America” (2009).
Chapters:
00:00 Silliness as the engine for O’Brien’s brand of late night
02:05 Taking arms in Groucho Marx’s war against the snobbery of cerebral comedy
04:32 The beautiful, simple currency of “funny”
05:33 The pointless genius of Andy Kaufman
07:39 Comedy as both a defense mechanism and a sanctuary for the perennially snubbed
09:57 Conan O’Brien hates jokes
11:45 Buster Keaton and the well of humor in sadness
12:30 Getting big in Finland and the pure, uniting joy of absurdity
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@rustyshackleford9756 Ай бұрын

"I don't know any jokes. But if you put me in situation where I have to entertain you for an hour, I'll make you laugh. I don't know what's gonna happen but it's gonna get pretty ugly." After seeing him on Hot Ones this quote rings true

@sydismine Ай бұрын

Fave ep of "Hot Wings" Conan was unhinged. I fell OUT! 🤣🤣🤣

@sybrwookie Ай бұрын

Yup, he was smart enough to bring on a comedy writer of his to do a skit and make jokes for him to react to and play off of, to then be hilarious on his own from there.

@fwfulton 25 күн бұрын

Conan, was so committed - To Being Conan on Hot Ones. My Respect for him went Up, and I liked him before. He did exactly what his is talking about here.

@trevorD1156 7 күн бұрын

It's definitely ugly and he never does anything funny. If cringe is your thing then Conan is your guy.

@WarmandHardy Ай бұрын

Conan helped me get through high school. I went back and watched Late Night all over again and now he’s getting me through my divorce. Long live the King of Late Night

@pony3284 Ай бұрын

Part of me wishes I'd found him sooner, but I'm just glad I've got him now to help me

@essaysandmore Ай бұрын

Hey, Conan’s getting me through my divorce, too. Gotta say, just an awful lawyer that guy. The judge just hates his guts.

@Eskay_The_Evil_Genius Ай бұрын

All over again? Who guested on the show on april 18 2000? Im kiddin . . . but seriously who was it?

@WarmandHardy Ай бұрын

@@Eskay_The_Evil_Genius Matthew Broderick

@a-jsuksi9158 Ай бұрын

@@essaysandmoreHe's not the best lawyer, but he's affordable.

@Apollyon1325 Ай бұрын

It's refreshing to watch a video with no graphics or random cuts to 'keep me occupied'. Just classy programing.

@fightclub6291 Ай бұрын

Which is why it’s likely to be taken down bc of Copyright issues.

@aaronokemaysim7310 Ай бұрын

@@fightclub6291 Why would it be taken down for copyright when the owners themselves are posting the video?

@CorwinPatrick Ай бұрын

... and badly transcribed subtitles with misspellings for ironic emphasis and internet trolling. Voiced-over with some random dude recording in his parents bathroom trying for that deadpan soulless AI sound...

@FusionDeveloper Ай бұрын

and no stupid title like: "Conan says never before heard things that is SHOCKING the entire industry! This interview is a true game changer!" Those youtube channels, I add to my blocklist.

@floor.mp3 28 күн бұрын

yes and i love to see him talking sincerely like this. i admire conan so much

@lovermaine1995 Ай бұрын

Omg Conan is blowing up rn. Don’t get me wrong, he’s always been popular but I felt like his popularity has reached a new height in recent months.

@erfan3578 Ай бұрын

His comedy is understandable for almost all the people on earth As someone who is not American or even from Western countries, he is so relatable compared to other comedians, something like Charlie Chaplin

@JeiElRai Ай бұрын

One big advantage he's had is that the generations who grew up with the Internet, who've now come into adulthood, grew up with him on TV. Add to this how uniquely well, particularly for someone who'd been in traditional media for 30 years, he's transitioned to podcasting and online presence so effectively. Through just being himself he's effectively capitalized exceptionally well on the particular opportunities of the times. It's no wonder his Hot Ones appearance obliterated previous numbers for the show. He's in a great position culturally.

@verde666 Ай бұрын

Yup, he released new show and visited biggest shows promoting it, so no wonder

@SARYM911 Ай бұрын

It's remarkable how positively he is viewed on the internet since the last decade at least, especially coming from traditional late night background. You have to really dive deep to find someone hating him..Unlike someone like Howard Stern who was revolutionary but simply has faded away with the general internet audience, Conan just kept rising in this age.

@jamesmiller5331 Ай бұрын

Based on what

@trust5977 Ай бұрын

I love Conan so much that it hurts. Does anyone else here feel that way? He is clearly the most cerebral of any comedy legends, but he embraces silliness unlike no other.

@jesuscisnerosjr8580 Ай бұрын

Same

@globdrop Ай бұрын

*like no other

@AffyisAffy Ай бұрын

Yes, he wasn't afraid to say the truth. But he was acutely aware that absurdism and mockery could only go so far until it became pandering. Despite being extremely intelligent, he loved playing the clown and butt of the jokes and that combo is extremely rare. He and Norm Macdonald knew that 100%. Also, I felt like he was never able to take himself too seriously on the show and avoided the cynical demeanor of some of his contemporaries.

@robinheil Ай бұрын

Same. Started watching when I was a kid. He's always been there to cheer me up during my darkest times.

@NakulaKaufman Ай бұрын

The best comedian of our generation. Larry David may be roughly on par.

@TheVelvetVixen Ай бұрын

Conan is the silliest intellectual. Love him dearly. Thank you, Conan.

@GovernmentalCtrl Ай бұрын

He’s not an intellectual. He said himself. He’s a silly comedian. A clown. A buffoon.

@productdesign9626 23 күн бұрын

You have to be very smart to pull off Conan's style of comedy. It looks like idiocy, but it's nothing of the sort.

@mystarmach Ай бұрын

"A frenetic silliness that, to me, is life-affirming" - what a quote

@Govindaclass Ай бұрын

Some of Conan’s most underrated traits that make his comedy brilliant and universal: 1. Diction: I am not from the western world and while I understand English very well, often I have to replay a bit or joke of most celebs to completely understand what they are saying but with Conan’s impeccable diction, I never had an issue understanding him. 2. Enunciation: If you have followed Conan long enough, you will have noticed that he stresses on the right words that makes a usually unfunny line hilarious. 3. Over the top comedy: There are very few people who can consistently pull off the over the top animated comedy and he is one of them. 4. Controlled but hearty laughter: Conan open heartedly laughs at others jokes but can immediately riff off the joke and extend it into a hilarious bit without breaking. A lot harder to do than you think when improvising! 5. Commitment: Conan commits to a joke however stressful, embarrassing, humiliating or even at times dangerous the situation may be. 6. Doing bits constantly off camera: I am often amazed by how he comes up with such random hilarious stuff so spontaneously but then I came to know that he does this 24/7 even at home or just in public! Because of this, while most people would have witty comebacks lost somewhere in the back of their brains, Conan has this right at the surface, ready to go. 7. Being funny while being an active conversationalist: It is a lot easier to come up with a funny line while passively listening in to a conversation. Most people are able to do so with varying degrees of success. But having witty jokes and comebacks while actively listening and conversing with another person is a much harder and rarer skill. Of course there are the other obvious traits but these are some of the most overlooked traits of his that I have observed.

@CodeXCDM Ай бұрын

Commitment is an understatement. His Hot Ones interview was absolutely unhinged, because despite not being one to even eat spicy food, he literally chugged bottles of it... Just because of the commitment to the humor.

@Govindaclass Ай бұрын

@@CodeXCDM Conan was a 1000% committed long before the hot ones episodes, whether it was improvised or scripted. It’s just the first 2 or 3 years where he seemed unsure of himself. From the late 90s onwards his execution was 100%. If you haven’t seen ‘Conan spends 400$ at Rockefeller Center’, I highly recommend it. I personally think it is more insane and hilarious than his hot ones interview!

@senseisecurityschool9337 28 күн бұрын

These are great points! Doing improv, I've learned something about #7. I've learned the better we listen, the funnier we can be. To make a funny comment about what's going on or what someone just said, we have to be paying attention to what they said. On top of that, a whole theme, almost a genre, of comedy I do is all based on pretending to misunderstand what they said or what they mean, often by listening carefully to what they say and responding to the words they actually said vs what they meant.

@zangcheye Ай бұрын

I like seeing this real Conan. I love his TV persona, but getting to know how he ticks is a treat.

@isabella-a-a-a Ай бұрын

Check out his talks at Harvard & Oxford, they’re fantastic. Silly, serious, long-form and honest.

@Alfonso162008 Ай бұрын

I'm with you on this one. I like Conan, but sometimes his public persona is too much for me, so it's nice to see his calmer (not necessarily serious) side. It's like a palate cleanser 😂 Another place where you can see more of this Conan is the interview he did for Andy Richter's podcast (The Three Questions), during the height of the pandemic.

@whitestoneandy797 Ай бұрын

Conan is being proven right. He is considered the absolute best by many for a reason.

@Kb0montty2 Ай бұрын

He is the best!

@johan8969 29 күн бұрын

@@Kb0montty2 Love him and his approach to comedy. It can be contemporary to any timeline since it resonate with everyone. He talks about Andy and ask who it was for. Same with people like Norm. It can get political, but you have to be the jester looking in as an outsider. Its a lost art for a lot of modern comedians

@Chillllllbruh Ай бұрын

Thanks PBS, for providing quality programming for years and years. Shoutout Mr. Rogers.

@humanuponearth 5 күн бұрын

Shoutout public services!! Never let anybody tell you the government is useless!!

@DontFretBrett Ай бұрын

What an international treasure and class act this man is. Had everything to become a “successful” staunchy corporate guy. He chose silly and risked a potential fail. And the geniuses who recognized it and gave him a chance 👏

@somarriba333 Ай бұрын

Conan is king. NBC blew it with The Tonight Show.

@purplegorilla9592 Ай бұрын

Conan and Craig Ferguson were clearly the best late night hosts of the last 30 years. It's not even a question.

@quinnforde6581 Ай бұрын

I agree. probably speaks to the timelessness of their shows, the absurdity of it all.

@MagicianofBlackChaos Ай бұрын

and Letterman

@Freakazoid12345 Ай бұрын

That guy who hosted the Daily Show when it first started was great and under-rated. Craig Kilborn.

@Cory99918 29 күн бұрын

craig ferguson is ok, he got the "be silly" thing down, but treated it like a saucy dating show for himself.... conan is magnitudes better than him and everyone else....

@DualStupidity Ай бұрын

11:24 the way he tacks on little comments like that is one of my favorite Conan mannerisms

@katizzle92 Ай бұрын

Words can't describe how much I love this man

@pruett89 Ай бұрын

I just love to hear Conan talk about comedy. He understands what makes it work and what makes humans connect with it. He also understands you can’t try and hold on too tight. You gotta let comedy breathe and move with it. I feel like I’ve learned so much for Conan about life.

@cruelworld1902 2 күн бұрын

Big part about it is also, what makes it work for him, doesn't really want work for everyone but can incorporate some of it

@gusandthetv Ай бұрын

Late night with conan o'brien was one of the best tv shows of all time

@vargasfamily282 Ай бұрын

Yay! I made video tapes!!

@WilliamByronIs Ай бұрын

Such an influence. Thanks Conan.

@brownkemosabe Ай бұрын

He should be on the Mount Rushmore of Late Night Comedy. Thank you Conan, for giving me a delightful teenage and shaping my humour well into my 30s now.

@cleverusername9369 Ай бұрын

Mount Rushmore of Comedy*

@brownkemosabe Ай бұрын

@@cleverusername9369 personally I agree, but there might be others who feel there are stand-ups who deserve those spots.

@jayess8714 Ай бұрын

Conan is the king.

@goto81 Ай бұрын

A true Mensch

@user-gt7vn9lz2m Ай бұрын

No host would die for his bits and comedy like Conan. He just goes of. No late night host can't go against Conan. He is an improv master. He can turn something stupid in an 5 min roast. GOAT

@Malachi_Risinger Ай бұрын

10:00 His view on comedy is very similar to Steve Martin's. Martin believed people only laughed at jokes because they were conditioned to the structure.

@iyadel-hout3527 Ай бұрын

Unhinged way of starting the video. No intro or anything, just straight into it. Gotta admit it worked, I was hooked.

@redsoxfox Ай бұрын

Conans comedy is timeless and honest.

@jkap34 Ай бұрын

Conan was, and still is in my opinion, one of the best late night hosts ever to have done it. Top three, no doubt. Mainly because he was never overly political, he was just funny.

@funnyvishant Ай бұрын

He pioneered a mixture of off-the-cuff, intellectual, goofy, and non-sequitur humor. He is a true revolutionary... At the time hewas a part of The Simpsons, SNL, and Late-Night... They all impacted society like a force of nature.

@xGuitarInFlamesx Ай бұрын

When I look up "GOAT" in the dictionary all I see is a Conan picture

@LycanLink Ай бұрын

I haven't had many heroes, many inspirations, many aspirations in my life, but Conan is absolutely one of my few. To his core, he is hilarious, thoughtful, empathetic, intelligent, and kind. I may be older now than he was in 2008, but I still hope and pray I become as amazing as him one day.

@tdvu Ай бұрын

Out of all the last night hosts, I've never seen anyone bash Conan nor have bad things to say about him. Definitely the GOAT when it comes to late night as well as just being a a genuinely funny guy.

@sunnyOrNotHereIcome Ай бұрын

Conan, you bring joy to us. You are loved! I don’t memorize jokes either. You’re a dancer whose shoes are made of humor. I’ve learned so much from you and I try to get others to find their funny bone in the middle of all the seriousness. We have to get the real work done, but we can enjoy all of it together with some silliness. Love you!

@Kb0montty2 Ай бұрын

Conan is an American treasure! He is so intelligent and yet he embraces the ridiculous and silly in a way that is completely noncomparable with any other comedian. Long live the King of Late Night! Thank you Conan!

@bwuh Ай бұрын

This was an absolute delight to watch.

@mbarton36 25 күн бұрын

Just watched the “tour under the audience” bit he did during a writers strike. One of the classics . Always working for the laugh even if it’s at his expense.

@onetowelperguest 12 күн бұрын

it’s so satisfying to hear this. He’s summarizing all the things I like about his comedy and comedy in general in the best way possible:

@Toxicbat666 Ай бұрын

Conan! I am huge fan from Sweden I love you, the best and funniest man alive. Thanks to you I am still alive

@j.r.shartzer Ай бұрын

"Jokes are too obvious." Yes!

@SpoookyBooogie Ай бұрын

Great work on the sound team for editing out the entire crew laughing during this

@blusef1 29 күн бұрын

Omg "wistful sadness" that totally describes why I love Charles Schulz comics!

@geloamiote Ай бұрын

People say you shouldn't idolize any celebs, or person for that matter. I disagree. In my book, this man right here is the only exception.

@yashc1995ify Ай бұрын

100%

@ElapseSounds Ай бұрын

I agree with this. His Dartmouth commencement speech changed my outlook on things as a young adult.

@mrbeans2425 Ай бұрын

he really is a true gem.

@marcpelosi380 Ай бұрын

The difference for me with Conan compared to everyone else on Late Night is you can tell he genuinely LOVES comedy and television. He's Homer Simpson as a kid sitting in front of the Radiation King TV. The way he talks about shows he grew up on or people he's met through the years. It's like listening to Mark McGrath, Sebastian Bach, or Matt Pinfield talk about music. He's such an expert in his field it's fantastic to watch.

@mtrps_ Ай бұрын

the guy with the combine, hes always so on 😂😂😂

@MatthewPalanca Ай бұрын

Incredible interview showing a longform, uncut stream of thoughts by a legend

@mymanjoker Ай бұрын

Conan is the GOAT, his remotes will forever be the best thing on KZfaq

@danielkillorin9742 Ай бұрын

I love Conan, in a way he’s distancing himself from the other late night guys like Jon Stewart who only make jokes that are fueled by the anger in people’s hearts towards either the left or right. Respect

@sourovdas5280 Ай бұрын

There will never be another Conan Obrien 🌺

@hankdatank09 Ай бұрын

And this is why I love Conan.

@DIOBrando-ij2bp Ай бұрын

That’s funny, when he tells that story (at 8:55) about telling his dad that he’s earning a living exploiting something that should probably be treated now, (he’s brought that story up a few times on Conan Needs a Friend) it’s not him saying that to his dad, it’s his dad saying that to him. Now I’m wonder which is the actual way it happened. Is this telling the actual versions and the story flipped over the course of 13 years, or is how he tells in now what happened?

@TheCarpentersApprentice Ай бұрын

Damn good question

@MihaelaCornescu Ай бұрын

the author is not always reliable

@happylikeanoldtimemovie Ай бұрын

I noticed that too. I think there have been multiple times where he said his dad said it so maybe he just mispoke this time?

@ronalddg9369 Ай бұрын

I can imagine him telling the real story, and then the director saying that's too sad and ordering him to change it

@tkillcoin Ай бұрын

This might be pre-therapy Conan, who feels obliged to protect his dad, rather than tell the truth. It could also be because it’s PBS. Real respectable people watch PBS, not just the knuckleheads that like Late Night. But yeah, that bumped me too.

@AfricanDanceInternational Ай бұрын

You defined comedy so well. Thank you Conan. I have less guilt now not beeing fond of the English humour -actually humourlessness because it is too thought and calculated and forced... And, yes indeed too cerebral. Almost like a nerd trying to be funny. This thought coming from a smart and well educated man makes Conan even cooler and more endearing. Also gutsy.

@kavvg3805 12 күн бұрын

well said. i like lots of brit humor, but its full of ego and pretension. "when snobbery sneaks in to comedy" as Conan said

@SmokeDog1871 9 күн бұрын

Yes Conan is super silly but man is he fast, insightful and witty too. Perfect delivery every time too

@jt.8144 Ай бұрын

Life lessons from this guy. KEEP IT SIMPLE AND REAL.

@titusrider7948 Ай бұрын

Some of the best laughs I've ever had from late night shows were the skits of lowering TV monitor with pics of; Clinton, Bush, Trump, Schwarzenegger... where only the mouth moves, the voices are impeccable 😅😅😅

@pr0ject25o1 Ай бұрын

Chip Whitley is a genius. The Conan character he plays, Pimpbot, the year 2000, the 🐻. Man as a kid I would die laughing. Still watch him today! I went to his show once and it was the best ever. Low key genius.

@joejohnson5051 Ай бұрын

I remember looking at the tv listings each week just for Conan as a kid to see who his interviews would be with. Obviously I knew it would be epic if Norm Macdonald was scheduled and I was right. Proud to say I watched him since show 1.

@ah-damn-art Ай бұрын

I finally know why I like Conan sm, the random nothingness of his shows is why I would tune in back in the day, I'm glad he's doing great and thriving.

@s10wd0wnab1t Ай бұрын

Conan perfectly explained why Mr. Bean is a timeless masterpiece. LOL

@mk810 Ай бұрын

Certified genius

@SpeakerGregoryDwyer 27 күн бұрын

Glad I got to meet him in Ct.

@matthewcurmi8016 Ай бұрын

Imagine....just imagine....Corden / Fallon having this degree of insight and discourse.

@eatonuter7113 Ай бұрын

What a great conversation. I am glad to have checked out Conan for the first time nine years ago because you can tell he truly cares about how he crafts the show, but not only that, the way he answers the question in such detail helps to allow the viewer to understand what's being asked.

@user-jy3br3wj1d Ай бұрын

Such an impressive story.

@mattk1631 13 күн бұрын

Him spinning his ring on his desk for multiple nights during the writer's strike is a great example of this unscripted silliness.

@jt.8144 Ай бұрын

Long Live Triumph.

@robertlockwood3277 Ай бұрын

I love this man so much. He’s seen me through some rough times. Team coco for life.

@wolverineiscool7161 Ай бұрын

quality is great!

@noname-ve7wo Ай бұрын

Conan is the best. I wasn't even born when Carson ran the show but I seen many clips and he was awesome. Conan is more then awesome he's the best.

@nataliezementbeisser1492 Ай бұрын

I love him

@westsi1 Ай бұрын

I can’t remember how young I was, but when I first noticed his show, there was fake rap battle between Shaquille O’Neal and Dikembe Mutombo. I cried from laughter.

@dastaten Ай бұрын

Conan is the best. 'Nuff said.

@Splexx Ай бұрын

I remember when he started with The Masturbating Bear on his show. It was so stupid but was the funniest thing on late night. I would almost piss myself laughing.

@davidbowen2909 Ай бұрын

Another reason why I connect with you, when I was a lot younger, lived in a rural area outside of Chicago and during summer vacation my parents would allow me to stay up late on Saturday nights so I could watch Marx Brothers movies. Channel 7 would broadcast cast at least 2 movies every Saturday night through out the summer. Long story short, I love what you do Conan. Keep doing it and I’ll keep watching. Thank you

@christoz77 Ай бұрын

It is wonderful to hear the man behind the mask speak candidly to your heart in reason

@s0t33W 26 күн бұрын

Hi, finnish fan here. Just wanna say, you're not famous "for no reason". You're famous because you're awesome, and you bring happines and joy to peoples lives. I can't think of a better reason to be famous for. But I do get the point you were saying, and I agree with it. :)

@fortunewrangler8524 Ай бұрын

I like how he is Conan!!

@ZeroG_Bandit Ай бұрын

Conan is my hero.

@williambell6611 Ай бұрын

Conan is the humor that I loved growing up

@MrJayOkane Ай бұрын

Now go watch him on Hot Ones. Master class

@MackovaDraga Ай бұрын

God bless you my dear Conan, such a good man. Thank You Sir

@titusrider7948 Ай бұрын

Love Conan, his silliness is brilliant ! He could really make the audience laugh 😅 I really miss his show

@pablobest4239 Ай бұрын

He's brilliant.

@naveenpal4782 Ай бұрын

I read it as Illness at first glance and was instantly worried. God bless Conan and his silliness.

@denisrivarola2387 Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for bringin in the actor from "the interruptor" and that 40's ghost !

@arrowguy173 Ай бұрын

His original Late Night show (which Letterman had pioneered) was absolute gold. Both he and Dave mastered the art of random, college buddy trying anything, out there humor. Stuff you would never see Jay’s typical audience get etc. Dave smashing things with a press and locomotives and hosting Super Dave Osborne numerous times, Conan having elaborate mascot costumes attempt to dunk and a cigar smoking puppet roasting everyone…all just brilliant. And both had legendary remotes plus entire shows done from planes, boats, Conan’s claymation and skeleton episodes…thank God for KZfaq so today’s kids can see what we had.

@kellykramer7629 Ай бұрын

He’s the best

@LA-rv2fr Ай бұрын

Big fan.

@mrrobot8973 Ай бұрын

Legend

@kothon1 25 күн бұрын

You can watch this guy indefinitely!!

@jimjamjerry Ай бұрын

Conan is the best to do it!

@jacobsims8307 Ай бұрын

Reminds me of Mr. Rodgers talking about whimsy.

@dhaktizero4406 Ай бұрын

when you give funny that makes the ego butler of the mind shanty-town and his little doggie laugh and love this world more, you have succeeded. see the little dog, it's tail is wagging the whole little guy. so happy. good job.

@_sparrowhawk Ай бұрын

I think this American Masters interview is the most serious I've ever seen him.

@nikkibot 16 күн бұрын

These are beautiful sentiments I love this so much

@jt.8144 Ай бұрын

THIS MAN CAN NEVER BE "COPY AND PASTED".

@nathantrujillo471 Ай бұрын

I wish I was more like Conan

@Pendragon981 Ай бұрын

By far my favorite late night host of all time.

@pete5534 Ай бұрын

Conan is a treasure. How can you not love this guy?

@astraltraveler257 Ай бұрын

as a writer and producer I have to say comedy is the most difficult form of entertainment to create and make. especially the SILLY part of the continuum. and Conan is one of the geniuses. Monty Python maybe set the bar.