Americas Newest Car Free Neighborhood!

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America is well known for its dependency on cars and nowhere is that more prevalent than the Phoenix metro area. However, there's a new neighborhood that's planning to shake up the idea of car centric zoning! Let's visit Culdesac, Americas newest car free neighborhood!
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@knifefest
@knifefest 5 ай бұрын
Here's something to consider: Tokyo's busiest metro stations are directly connected to malls, office spaces, and sometimes even apartments that are jointly owned and operated by the same companies who own and operate the trains/tracks/stations. Transit-oriented development like this is what makes places like Tokyo shine. If everyone's a 5 minute walk from a bodega/kombini and laundromat, you very rarely need to take the train at all. There might be a grocery store/produce market at the train station by work, so you can grab fresh produce or other groceries on your way home. Appointments and department stores are near train stations too.
@danieldaniels7571
@danieldaniels7571 5 ай бұрын
Phoenix’s new metro station is connected to a mall that’s been closed since 2020, and is expected to be completely demolished. And a giant parking lot.
@dotdotdotdotdotdotdottod
@dotdotdotdotdotdotdottod 5 ай бұрын
excatky. not everything needs to be modeld off of europe
@Zelielz1
@Zelielz1 5 ай бұрын
This is also thanks to its loose zoning regulations. Builders are allowed to construct anything anywhere.
@ScooterBean
@ScooterBean 5 ай бұрын
D.C. is built pretty much like this as well.
@nntflow7058
@nntflow7058 5 ай бұрын
@@danieldaniels7571 Dead shopping mall is not a mall.
@todgod
@todgod 5 ай бұрын
Ya know, when I saw a car-free development in the title, I would NOT have expected it to be in the Phoenix metro area! Good work!
@ElleryOmur
@ElleryOmur 5 ай бұрын
That's because the best green and urban solutions are free-market-driven, rather than Big Government driven. Create grassroots demand and education in order to create supply.
@GrabASpriteB
@GrabASpriteB 5 ай бұрын
solutions usually appear where the problem is
@danielt6689
@danielt6689 5 ай бұрын
@@ElleryOmur it's still in its initial phase. Wait and see if it's a success.
@SkyForceOne2
@SkyForceOne2 4 ай бұрын
@@ElleryOmur "free market" is just incredibly inefficient and a hoax, wishful thinking.
@Brian-jv8iy
@Brian-jv8iy 3 ай бұрын
It is not car free, they have 200 parking spots, a little number because the developer is saving costs pushing it as car free. The whole place is a very inhumane design.
@aynt_2065
@aynt_2065 5 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if you brought it up in the video, so forgive me if I missed it, but I think the developer was able to secure the no-parking deal by requiring that tenants do not own or bring cars in the first place, which kind of takes care of the no on-site parking concern, except those delivery spots of course.
@AssBlasster
@AssBlasster 5 ай бұрын
That's kind of amazing that car-free folks can get dedicated housing catered to their lives. I would love more complexes like this for TOD apartments. Rent prices weren't too outrageous for a new complex in Tempe, like $1.5K for a 1 bed apartment, with perks like the annual transit pass.
@urstaxfetish1206
@urstaxfetish1206 5 ай бұрын
It is unlikely that the residents don't own cars. If you are given free access to the light rail it is highly likely the car is just in a carpark close to the light rail line at another stop. If you got the money to even live here you also already have a steady job that likely required you to have a car.
@dandre3K
@dandre3K 4 ай бұрын
@@urstaxfetish1206Just like off campus student housing that “requires” you to be child free… people lie 😂
@brickitect420
@brickitect420 5 ай бұрын
I have visited culdesac IRL, it's very cozy and really nice and actually quiet. I loved it~ I wish I could live in it
@jbradhicks
@jbradhicks 5 ай бұрын
How are the rents?
@brickitect420
@brickitect420 5 ай бұрын
@@jbradhicksranging between $15-1800 per month depending on unit size. The thing is a lot of the new neighboring developments in the valley also built parking garages for resident use, but the cost averages 60k per parking space in these garages, and costed the developer a lot of money they gotta get back over time via higher rents, even if they didn't want to adhere to parking minimum laws. Developers usually have no choice to build at all because of that....which usually results on new apartments of sizes similar to the ones in Culdesac to be $2200/$2400+ . I've toured a lot of brand new builds, and saw that pattern persist in most of these brand new developments with hundreds of units of their own.
@Junetau
@Junetau 5 ай бұрын
I stayed here for a week last month, and really loved my experience there. I echo the "empty" feel critique. And while I totally get it, the gated entries to main residence areas made the place feel a little hostile towards non-residents. Would love to see the community be more inviting to general foot traffic from the nearby neighborhoods and apartment complexes.
@PSNDonutDude
@PSNDonutDude 5 ай бұрын
It's almost *too* tight for a development in this kind of area. I think increasing the density, increasing the spacing between buildings a bit would be a bit better. As it is, I worry there aren't enough "eyes on the street" and Jane Jacobs would say. To maintain safety as a result they would need to close off parts.
@andersonstudiosmusic
@andersonstudiosmusic 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it is incredibly rare to find an apartment complex in the Phoenix metro without gated access. Only the really old and/or the "affordable housing" developments (that are really just what market rate should be) are lacking them. Phoenix is one of the least inner-connected cities I've ever seen. You can't even drive directly through most neighborhoods without making several turns and potentially having to turn around at a dead end or two.
@aprildawnsunshine4326
@aprildawnsunshine4326 5 ай бұрын
How accessible was it? It looks good but a lot of walkable neighborhoods are designed with the assumption everyone can walk. So are car centric of course, but I think it's important we don't leave wheelchair users etc out of the plan. Everyone lucky enough to get old will deal with a mobility issue at some point but I keep seeing these ideas for people focused design that completely ignores this.
@Junetau
@Junetau 5 ай бұрын
@@aprildawnsunshine4326 It's not accessible unfortunately. The gates to enter a complex are heavy, and there is no automatic door opener option. There were also no elevators to access the 2nd floors, which we readily noticed with our heavy luggage. I agree that accessibility should be a part of these efforts.
@dandre3K
@dandre3K 4 ай бұрын
So it’s a gated complex with detached parking 🥱
@user-mm1nt1it5v
@user-mm1nt1it5v 5 ай бұрын
Culdesac is the worst name possible for a car free neighborhood. Is it a bad attempt at irony?
@climateandtransit
@climateandtransit 5 ай бұрын
I think the naming was fully ironic
@aynt_2065
@aynt_2065 5 ай бұрын
I mean, yeah, you probably think "car-centric suburb" when you hear culdesac, but, at their core, cul-de-sacs are neighborhoods that are designed to completely discourage through traffic and non-resident cars, so given that this neighborhood has no traffic at all (I'm pretty sure you're not actually allowed to live here if you bring a car, which is probably how the developer secured a no-parking deal with the city), the name actually makes sense.
@chocolateearrings
@chocolateearrings 5 ай бұрын
The name is cringe
@user-mm1nt1it5v
@user-mm1nt1it5v 5 ай бұрын
@@chocolateearrings agree
@Matty002
@Matty002 4 ай бұрын
​@@aynt_2065 if people say its cringe/terrible, it doesnt matter what the word 'meant' because thats not how language works. meanings shift constantly so cul-de-sac = suburbs is whats relevant now. 'youtube' makes no sense unless you acknowledge that the word tube has changed drastically
@itsliam4905
@itsliam4905 5 ай бұрын
While this idea is interesting, I don't believe it's sustainable to build disconnected neighborhoods like this. Hopefully, this will at least increase the popularity of walking neighborhoods across the country and inspire changes in existing downtowns, cities and neighborhoods. I am just concerned this project will be dead in the next decade as we have already learnt that the congregation of people into cities is a natural process and city planning should follow the movement of people not the other way around. In a way this is no different from the suburban experiment where we could end up with loads of these new neighborhoods (for let's be honest rich people) disconnected from each other with no real way to expand it into a real semi dense city.
@pavld335
@pavld335 5 ай бұрын
What's disconnected about it? It has a stop next to the Valley metro?
@itsliam4905
@itsliam4905 5 ай бұрын
@@pavld335 you're right. I mean also disconnected from other perspectives. Like who is reasonsible for the shared amenities upkeep? Is it the city or the company building this? It falls in a weird in between. Practically, yes it is connected to the rail line but that doesn't necessarily mean it's well connected or well provided for. As mentioned in the video as well, the grocery store is not a full fledged one so would one still need a car to get actual groceries? How is the rail line connected to other amenities etc... I suppose it's more in the broader sense of urban fabric
@DylanS32
@DylanS32 5 ай бұрын
It’s an apartment complex, so the landlords manage the upkeep of the amenities. There are plenty of accessible grocery stores just two stations away. For very bulky grocery trips, you can rent an EV for $5/hr or do delivery if you really have a need.
@itsliam4905
@itsliam4905 5 ай бұрын
@@DylanS32 thanks for the info. I'm definitely not saying it's absolutely bad or anything - I of course have not been there. I am just skeptical
@DylanS32
@DylanS32 5 ай бұрын
Definitely understandable. For some context, I grew up in the burbs of Phoenix and have actually lived in culdesac now for the past 2 months. It's still in the early stages so it's gonna have its kinks, but it has pretty good promise
@bschubert17
@bschubert17 5 ай бұрын
I live a few miles away from Culdesac and have (ugh) driven by a number of times. I am really excited to see Culdesac continue to finish their build-out and am hopeful for great success that leads to a Phoenix-Metro-wide model for car-free living!
@TransitTangents
@TransitTangents 5 ай бұрын
I couldn't help but notice the amount of bikes and e-bikes on residents patios. It feels like a miss to not have some other sort of secured bike parking so people don't need to lug their e-bikes up a flight of stairs and through their apartments, etc.... I know personally it is an issue where I live as well (we keep our bikes inside). Enjoyed the video!
@climateandtransit
@climateandtransit 5 ай бұрын
So really cool thing, they literally just opened up an indoor bike parking garage!
@TransitTangents
@TransitTangents 5 ай бұрын
@@climateandtransit Nice! That would have been a big miss otherwise!
@angelaburress8586
@angelaburress8586 5 ай бұрын
This whole idea is a miss just because a few people either don’t own a car or dislike the idea of a car doesn’t mean that everyone should have to be forced into these kinds of dystopian kind environments 👀👀🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️💁🏽‍♀️💁🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️
@Sosski
@Sosski 5 ай бұрын
@@angelaburress8586but everyone isn’t that’s the point. It’s for people who DO want to live car free…
@TransitTangents
@TransitTangents 5 ай бұрын
@@angelaburress8586 Folks are definitely making the choice to live here. Literally every other apartment anywhere near by will have parking.
@eyespy3001
@eyespy3001 5 ай бұрын
I feel like America, as a whole, forgot what a town and neighborhood are and need. Like; just putting one fake Whole Foods and, perhaps, a restaurant or brewery doesn’t make a neighborhood. People need a dry cleaner, a shoe repair spot, a hardware store, multiple clothing stores, etc.. These are the businesses that people need on a daily basis, and not having them in your carless neighborhood will only make people drive to get to them. Either that, or you will force them to shop online, which requires vehicular delivery, further defeating the purpose of a carless existence (and furthering the death of what the neighborhood/town used to be). These days, developers think a neighborhood is an overpriced grocery store, an overpriced coffee shop, a restaurant, a bar, and a brewery. That’s not a neighborhood; it’s a destination. Make a town filled with goods and services that people need on a daily basis that supports a variety of businesses with healthy competition and choices, which create jobs for the community, and then add your residences. _That_ is a town.
@udishomer5852
@udishomer5852 5 ай бұрын
I would add a barber, a beauty saloon, an ATM or two, a pet shop/grooming/vet and a dentist to the list of neighborhood shops. But if the neighborhood is as small as this culdesac its hard to base a business there.
@JohnDoe-my5ip
@JohnDoe-my5ip 5 ай бұрын
Hardware store, dry cleaner, pharmacy, sure. Clothing stores? The Internet killed most of those off for good. And I say, good riddance. I go in-person clothes shopping maybe once a year. When I do, I go to the one giant suburban shopping mall that hasn’t died in any given region, with dozens of different clothing stores, so I can get that over with at one place. That’s the only model of apparel retail that can survive. Because sometimes you need to try something on, but it’s so infrequent these days, a standalone store can never survive with just the customers in a 15 minute city. Malls could be very easily served by transit if society demanded it. All it requires is an express bus with good frequency from the nearest train station.
@eyespy3001
@eyespy3001 5 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-my5ip Hate to break a couple of things to ya, but… 1. The world doesn’t revolve around you and your preferences 2. The suburban shopping mall is dying fast. Most malls are being converted into office suites and health care facilities. 3. Clothing boutiques are still thriving in cities, especially walkable cities like New York. If this experiment of a town aims to be car-free, then they’re going to need clothing stores for all the reasons I already explained in my original comment.
@dandre3K
@dandre3K 4 ай бұрын
@@eyespy3001>The world doesn’t revolve ar… You can’t be serious dude clearly wasn’t saying that 😂
@carstarsarstenstesenn
@carstarsarstenstesenn 28 күн бұрын
People didn't forget, it's just what makes money and what doesn't. Developers love making rich neighborhoods because that's where the money is. They're not interested in serving the normal people with essentials like laundromats. All the laundromats around me are 20+ years old
@ToomanyFrancis
@ToomanyFrancis 5 ай бұрын
I may have missed it, but are there enough employment opportunities inside the community for every resident to work and live in the neighborhood? If there are do they pay enough to afford to live in the neighborhood? I'm going to assume these are around "luxury" apartment prices, the kind that the average person needs at least one roommate to afford, so if they're paying the grocery store workers $15/hr and not giving them living space in the community this turns into a bit of a dystopian mess instead of the pleasant walkable dream it appears to be on the surface. Edit: just checked and the most affordable is $1459 for a 638sqft 1 bed 1 bath. Essentially continuing to perpetuate that livable neighborhoods are not intended for the working class.
@Shteven
@Shteven 5 ай бұрын
Yea sounds about right. Would you believe me if I said 10 years ago you could find apartments for as little as $500/month? Studio apartments were as little as $350/month, dinky and small, even trashy per se but not even in the Ghetto. The house I lived in went from 250k in 2018 to now 550k.
@1Reddd
@1Reddd 5 ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. Walking neighborhoods must be "self sufficient" in order to work. If residents must leave the neighborhood in order to work, it's no different than any other apartment complex. In fact I'd much rather live in a normal apartment complex where I'm not forced to use public transportation exclusively (since you basically can't own and park a car here).
@sparkyin3d
@sparkyin3d 5 ай бұрын
This is mainly geared towards ASU students, the foreign born ones.
@adambeck8180
@adambeck8180 5 ай бұрын
Culdesac is relatively small, so the next light rail stop in either direction gets you outside the development. I would imagine that there are plenty of jobs within a 15 minute commute door to door that can pay the bills.
@Dudeguy217
@Dudeguy217 5 ай бұрын
@@Shteven Move to the midwest can still find sub $500 apartments p easily. That and unskilled labor will still get you ~$15/hr starting bc of worker shortage
@alexanderboulton2123
@alexanderboulton2123 4 ай бұрын
Damn, Tempe went from almost building the worst economic disaster of a hockey stadium to an actual chance at sustainable development! Great change of pace!
@zacharyesparza9300
@zacharyesparza9300 5 ай бұрын
This development will eventually house 1000 people and only 150 or so have been built currently. The amount of people walking of course is directed on peoples daily habits. Most people could be at work or doing stuff in their space. This place will eventually have a lot of activity especially since 4 other apartment developments within a half mile are being built. I also have gone to restaurant on site and I loved the food. Also talked to a few people and some had rode the light rail from downtown Phoenix so there will be plenty of activity especially as more businesses open in the retail spaces as they come available.
@climateandtransit
@climateandtransit 5 ай бұрын
Yea it very well could’ve just been the day but it was a Saturday afternoon and downtown Tempe was bustling. I can’t wait for them to host more events and bring more people on sight.
@paxundpeace9970
@paxundpeace9970 5 ай бұрын
Still 1000 people is still not that much to support a Store and coffee shop ane more It really needs 5 times as many or more but when it is all grown in ir will work. It is all Apartment and no place with larger yards or play areas for kids playing Soccer or so. It does seem bit pure like only providing Appartments at a pretty narrow reach. In the EU and UK most developments build by developers or build by residents do have a wide range of different homes. Inclduing appartments , social housing units, affordable housing units assisted housing units, single family homes duplex side by side bungalows and more .
@user3wx9V-178
@user3wx9V-178 5 ай бұрын
@@paxundpeace9970i assume they're starting out like this because it's less risky economically in the short term. if this development proves to be successful, i would like to see the company build more options like larger row houses or townhomes with 3-4 bedrooms suitable for families. culdesac seems to be on mostly undeveloped or underdeveloped land. it would be great if other developers took note of this and built similar car-free or car-lite neighborhoods in the area near culdesac. it would increase demand for businesses and public transportation in the area and hopefully lead to the opening of new businesses and new transit lines.
@limesta
@limesta 5 ай бұрын
At about 1000 residents, I can see the area being very lively! I can also see a series of walkable neighborhoods all interconnected by transit, allowing for better intermingling of people
@humanecities
@humanecities 5 ай бұрын
Babe! Wake up, a new Climate and Transit video dropped! Babe? Babe…? Oh wait. I’m single.
@wesleycanada3675
@wesleycanada3675 5 ай бұрын
At least you can celebrate Arizonans statehood on valentines
@humanecities
@humanecities 5 ай бұрын
@@wesleycanada3675Arizona: The lover of the loverless.
@mma0911
@mma0911 5 ай бұрын
Me trying to explain the last 70 years of North American suburban development to her on a date
@Brian-jv8iy
@Brian-jv8iy 3 ай бұрын
the reasons for that is comments like this, don't make your hobbies your personality. Not that being single is worse or better than anythign else.
@andersonstudiosmusic
@andersonstudiosmusic 5 ай бұрын
I live in the Phoenix area, and there's a reason Culdesac is still empty. Despite it being right on the light rail, there's only one line to ride. If you aren't going to a location along that line, and need to take a bus, expect a total trip length of 2 hours or more. Not to mention it's almost exclusively targeted towards ASU students and the "young professionals" (recent ASU grads) who work in Downtown Tempe, and it is a little pricey for most people. Although that is just the entire rental market here. It is really unfortunate, because these are the ideas that will save our cities! But the rest of this city is simply designed to be too car dependent to make one neighborhood like this mean anything. It also took YEARS to get it off the ground. It was already in pre-development over 5 years ago when I moved to the valley for school (studying urban planning). It took over 5 years to get one neighborhood like this, and it still sits mostly empty.
@markaven5249
@markaven5249 5 ай бұрын
Lived in Cary NC and bicycling everywhere was great, you can bicycle from the waling paths, onto suburbs, onto sidewalks, back onto walking paths, and dirt paths in the parks. I want to live in Peachtree Georgia some day or somewhere similar. By the way, towns with public universities often have great bicycling as well, I used to love bicycling from Cary MC to Chapel Hill where UNC is, lots of nice winding beautiful little hilly bicycle trails.
@mintman325
@mintman325 5 ай бұрын
As someone who doesn’t drive I want this to be feasible and improved on. I’ve been to Ireland France Poland Sweden and Norway and I love all of them for their easy access to public transportation.
@Nordicjumper
@Nordicjumper 5 ай бұрын
I didn’t expect Arizona at all. I thought you are going to talk about Mackinac Island in Michigan which bans cars. It’s a lovely area!
@cushmanproductions
@cushmanproductions 5 ай бұрын
That patreon promo transition was as smooth as an LTT sponsor transition. 10/10.
@climateandtransit
@climateandtransit 5 ай бұрын
I do my best to make it smooth and simple 🤙
@Limit19970
@Limit19970 5 ай бұрын
They nailed the visual design of the neighbourhood. Looks super cozy and lots of unique spaces to look at.
@GaigeGrosskreutzGunClub
@GaigeGrosskreutzGunClub 5 ай бұрын
While I am skeptical about letting developers continue to steer trends, I appreciate the balls on CulDeSac to prohibit tenants from bringing a car on site, and focusing in on their market. I'm not gonna up and move to AZ for this, but I'm sure other like-minded people who can't afford NYC, CHI, BOS, or Europe may be swayed. I think this is a nice kind of intermediary from people used to living in suburbs, almost like a college campus. Hopefully it doesn't become just a reskinned version of a suburb or as others have pointed out, gated community.
@KevinBreeze
@KevinBreeze 5 ай бұрын
Great tour! It'll be interesting to see what it's like after full build-out and if that will result in things being more "lively." I noticed that other developers are building a lot of traditional apartments surrounding the Culdesac area... perhaps people from those nearby apartments will patronize the businesses within Culdesac. I am a bit surprised to see that there's no pool available for residents? That's a pretty important amenity in the desert. Hopefully that's part of the final plans.
@DylanS32
@DylanS32 5 ай бұрын
The pool is currently being built with a planned opening for this summer, 2024. Fingers crossed!
@PSNDonutDude
@PSNDonutDude 5 ай бұрын
A big issue with Cul De Sac that I worry about is the lack of density actually. People don't walk as much actually as they used to, and so slightly higher densities are needed to fill public spaces with people. I think they should have widened some of the walkways and built the occasional 4-6 storey building. The final development will have 1000 people, which isn't actually that many people. If they had tried a bit to double it, they could gave had cheaper more fully fledged stores. I suppose we'll have to see.
@Ryan_hey
@Ryan_hey 5 ай бұрын
I don't think is an issue, per say. There are walkable places in highly dense areas, and there are walkable places that aren't so densely populated. It's true they won't have as many businesses since the immediate population living there is not large, but there's still the possibility of people outside Cul De Sac travelling in for the businesses too (especially since it's right next to a light rail station, if I recall correctly).
@JohnDoe-my5ip
@JohnDoe-my5ip 5 ай бұрын
I’m sure they had a long, expensive, and bitter feud with petty tyrants in city hall to get an exemption from their oppressive parking minimums. There is an insatiable demand for housing everywhere in the USA right now. I’m sure the developer would’ve made every building there at least five stories if zoning didn’t exist. Perhaps not more than five stories, due to the height limit on stick framed buildings per safety codes. But five story apartment buildings without cars would give you density comparable to Paris or Amsterdam.
@gabrielschroll3824
@gabrielschroll3824 5 ай бұрын
At around the 2 minute mark, you asked the question of how Culdesac was able to get around Tempe's parking requirements, and your answer was that they were able to make a deal with the city. Can you please elaborate on this? What kind of deal? What did they have to give up in exchange for the exemption? Who struck the deal? How long did it take? What kind of pushback was there?
@taleseylad1249
@taleseylad1249 5 ай бұрын
Living in a car free development would be awesome. I wouldn't mind if cars were common as long as it's walkable
@history_leisure
@history_leisure 5 ай бұрын
This would be perfect to replace the Neshaminy Mall in Philadelphia. It's far enough out of the city that you don't have as many of the disadvantages but hopefully with both the Roosevelt Boulevard and the West Trenton line that it should be around an hour to reach center city via transit while giving Neshaminy and the surrounding towns a town center district more like smaller midwest towns (like Sandusky, OH) than a lifestyle center or whatever King of Prussia did at the interchange where I-76 turns off the PA turnpike
@Dimewick21
@Dimewick21 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this vid! I’ve been intrigued with cul de sac since hearing of its plans initially 3-4 years ago. We need more of this!!
@LucasDimoveo
@LucasDimoveo 5 ай бұрын
I hope more walkable “islands” like this pop up in sunbelt and midwestern cities. I’ve noticed it in Denver a lot as well. The next step will be to link these neighborhoods via public transportation
@anxylum
@anxylum 5 ай бұрын
I would LOVE to live in a car free community! 😍 I used to fantasize about living on Catalina Island (Los Angeles) which is not entirely vehicle free, but I’d be okay with go-carts & scooters…
@Propain4eva
@Propain4eva 5 ай бұрын
2:29 The parkour potential 🤤
@o_nazim
@o_nazim 5 ай бұрын
I would 100% live in a car-free community.
@zachfenton608
@zachfenton608 4 ай бұрын
You will own nothing and be happy
@CTJM_Middleton
@CTJM_Middleton 3 ай бұрын
Same here.
@Matty002
@Matty002 4 ай бұрын
my favorite part is definitely the buildings. taking architecture and materials into account make a huge difference in temperature. while the walkways do look a tad claustrophobic, this is what we shouldve been building in the desert cities instead of the regular wood frame houses and big box apartments. the ac power drain in the summer would be much lower than it is and we wouldnt have brown/black outs where people end up dead
@anniesshenanigans3815
@anniesshenanigans3815 5 ай бұрын
there was no rail when I lived in Phoenix. Cars cars everywhere. It would be a huge benefit of any city to have rail service. I live in Cape Coral florida and there are no rail services here. I have only seen ONE bus and it's not coming down my street. I drive an hour to work most days. It would be a pleasure to ride a bus or rail instead.
@paulblichmann2791
@paulblichmann2791 5 ай бұрын
That grocery store is gonna be the biggest ripoff ever. They got all the residents caught with their pants down.
@mikeydude750
@mikeydude750 5 ай бұрын
The biggest problem with these developments is that they don't have regular stores. All of the restaurants and shops are twee, overpriced stuff. Wheres the fast food? Wheres the regular grocery stores instead of the more expensive kind?
@TheKnittedRaven
@TheKnittedRaven 4 ай бұрын
Walkable neighborhoods, with easy access to amenities and transit, are far preferable to suburban sprawl. The large single family home on a large lot is a throwback to an era when construction, housing, and automobile costs represented a much smaller percentage of people's family incomes. I would love to live in such a neighborhood.
@floatinglasgnacreature627
@floatinglasgnacreature627 5 ай бұрын
I hope this succeeds just because they got an exception from minimum parking requirements. People need to see that parking requirements are not required for every development to be successful
@cameroncook2048
@cameroncook2048 5 ай бұрын
These kinds of communities always feel empty at the start. People make car-free communities. You need to give people time to move in and friendships to form. Currently, people have no reason to go out other than to buy food and take the metro to work
@axrdeardido
@axrdeardido 5 ай бұрын
ugh I used to go to university near this project and honestly this only caters to rich people and are unaffordable for the average person in Tempe. I like the idea and that is what America should strive for but make it affordable, where I live now it is extremely walkable but then again it is 500 years old.
@dansugardude2655
@dansugardude2655 5 ай бұрын
Have I ever been to Culdesac? No, because I live all the way in Massachusetts! Would I live in a car-free community? Absolutely YES!!!!!!!!
@elia8544
@elia8544 5 ай бұрын
Come to Salem. Not exactly car free but it’s the closest we’ve got here in Mass.
@Gdavras
@Gdavras 5 ай бұрын
It’s only empty because it’s not even 1/4 of its full size
@masongreen1385
@masongreen1385 5 ай бұрын
I can't be the only one thinking that parts of this look like the setting of a indie video game with a very simple plot of "travel and solve puzzles in this little world" with a really calming soundtrack and a very simple art style that somehow works.
@OuchMyNardz
@OuchMyNardz 5 ай бұрын
I'd like to see more communities like this. I'm in San Diego and public transportation is terrible, and riding a bike is dangerous. I'd love to not have to have a car.
@Kilgore_Trout_jr
@Kilgore_Trout_jr 4 ай бұрын
Europe could teach the US about foot traffic zones and public transportation. America has always been lacking in providing its constituency with basic services and infrastructure.
@PhoTC
@PhoTC 5 ай бұрын
I would give anything to live in such a community, esp if I had a remote-only job.
@cristianMoon24
@cristianMoon24 5 ай бұрын
Have you checked out the mixed use development in Tampa called midtown.
@climateandtransit
@climateandtransit 5 ай бұрын
I actually have! Definitely quite promising
@mustachewalrus
@mustachewalrus 5 ай бұрын
It’s really great to see a community like this, I’m just surprised no one living there in the footage. It comes off inhabitable.
@climateandtransit
@climateandtransit 5 ай бұрын
I’m chalking it up to me being there at a weird time
@anthonysnyder1152
@anthonysnyder1152 5 ай бұрын
I’m curious why the buildings are only at like 3 stories? Curious if there’s truly enough people to self sustain the retail they propose.
@nicthedoor
@nicthedoor 5 ай бұрын
Considering how packed they are the density can get pretty high.
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 ай бұрын
That building is called a 5 over 1. They build them because they are basically the cheapest building that meets all the bureaucratic regulations
@A_Canadian_In_Poland
@A_Canadian_In_Poland 5 ай бұрын
Not sure about the USA and all its local county-level codes, but in Canada, 3 storeys is the maximum height for a wood-frame building to be built without a fire sprinkler system, and also the height at which fire separations need only be rated at 45 minutes.
@aarspar
@aarspar 5 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie, this looks like a dream neighbourhood for me. It looks comfy and quiet but still very easily accessible when I want to hang out with friends. Plus it's near a train station!
@dukeloo
@dukeloo 5 ай бұрын
I'd love to live like this. I don't own a car and get around on a motorcycle and ebike. This is what the US lacks.
@Mimi-vy6wd
@Mimi-vy6wd 5 ай бұрын
Great to see! I would absolutely live in a car free community. In fact, it’s one of my dreams. Would love to see this expand and may our cities learn from this type of development! ❤
@frontier_etc
@frontier_etc 5 ай бұрын
Nice idea, but does anyone actually live there? A walkable car free neighborhood with no one walking?
@dmnddog7417
@dmnddog7417 5 ай бұрын
It's explained in the video why it's so empty currently.
@CoastalKite
@CoastalKite 5 ай бұрын
Interesting. When I visited the Phoenix metro back in 2019 I fell in love with Tempe specifically and promised myself I would live there sometime before I die. Now that I see this, it looks like it may be time to be an early adopter of this concept!
@RealSergiob466
@RealSergiob466 5 ай бұрын
My hometown is planning to build mixed used buildings and multi family homes. Near and next to the bus stop and bus station. And also they say they are improving the bus station. But we’ll see about that
@weaver270
@weaver270 5 ай бұрын
I love the light rail, I really want that. The only thing I "need" my car for is shopping trips where I stock up on suppllies. I would love to rent a car for half a day every 2 weeks to get those supplies. But I would need a hand cart to move from the car to the home. My knees are also not working well with stairs so I would want something at the ground level. With all that I could make it work.
@PixelShade
@PixelShade 5 ай бұрын
Although it's cool that it is completely car free it still feels like a theme park and a radical statement towards american car dependance... I think it's possible to meet somewhere in the middle. I was raised in Oxie, Sweden in the 80's. A boring Swedish suburb outside of Malmö for lower middle class people. checkout Majsåkersvägen and Rågåkersvägen in Oxie, Sweden on google maps, how they allow for car ownership, garages, but still having entire areas completely cut off from car trafic. It's walkable and close to nature, with playgrounds etc... There's also a green area between these two roads with an underpass that leads to the school (underneath Byåkersvägen)... This allowed me as a kid to have free access to walk and bike around the whole suburb. Without ever engaging in car traffic... In Oxie Centrum we had a couple of local grocery stores, restaurants, bakeries, gyms, library, a vhs rental, a video game store etc. With a population of ~10 000 people and a lot of kids even local commerce was achievable in a suburb of that size (and still is). The suburb has a lot of green areas, and a lot of walking paths (all small "roads" that you don't have street view on, are walking- and bike paths only). Why culdesac feels dead is because it's not lived in yet.... and perhaps never being big enough to actually house much social activity. I'm just afraid it will end up being a walkable deadish theme-park-like area that doesn't fit into the rest of the infrastructural landscape. Don't get me wrong. I'm ALL FOR car free societies. :) It's just that the US still has weird regulations that might force other new development to be starkly different from culdesac, rendering it to become an isolated "experiment" of sorts.... I hope I'm wrong.
@miles5600
@miles5600 5 ай бұрын
It feels dead because only like 150 people live there compared to the 1000 people that’ll be there when construction completes, they also have the room to build even more and expand. This those concept is very different compared to pedestrian zones seen all over Europe.
@JohnMFlores
@JohnMFlores 5 ай бұрын
Great to see and thanks for sharing. But I do wonder why they named it after one of the most common street types in car-centric suburbia?
@Mrcake0103
@Mrcake0103 5 ай бұрын
It’s like they carved out a tiny slice of Madrid and brought it to the US.
@candianleaf
@candianleaf 5 ай бұрын
I would definitely love to live in a neighbourhood like that! I would frequent that cafe too!
@adambuesser6264
@adambuesser6264 5 ай бұрын
I would love to live in a car free neighborhood if that is a option in many cities. I live in the North Jersey suburb of NY.
@danielportillo9266
@danielportillo9266 5 ай бұрын
I love seeing Metro Phoenix grow 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@benjaminmoogk3531
@benjaminmoogk3531 5 ай бұрын
Having no cars is on the extreme end, but there is a market for such a place. The waiting list just to get a property on Toronto Island is famously difficult to get on to. There is an even greater demand for places that have less motor vehicle traffic than we think of as normal. People will pay extra for neighborhoods that don’t allow high speed traffic. The noise and dust from car tires on pavement are things people want to escape. The name of the development does make anyone who speaks French cringe, as “cul de sac” literally means “ass of the bag”. It also is synonymous with “dead end”. Not great marketing.
@FarFlungHeel
@FarFlungHeel 5 ай бұрын
I'm thrilled to learn this is going on in the U.S. It's easy to see a "benign virus" like this spreading over time in a metro area like Phoenix and transforming it from a nightmare of a city (on my view) into a vibrant and livable place. I'm from the U.S. but have lived most of the last 35 years in Tokyo. I love Tokyo precisely because it is a human-scale, pedestrian-oriented city that has minimal zoning and grows and develops and changes organically. The greater metro area of Tokyo has 25 million or so people, but it's mostly a cluster of an endless series of walkable neighborhoods so it easy to function here. I have zero desire to ever live in US suburbia again, but if developments like this expand and begin influencing urban areas I'd think about returning for my Golden Years.
@user-ke7cy5xc2n
@user-ke7cy5xc2n 5 ай бұрын
Love the initiative and design of this neighborhood. The biggest flaw I see is that it is plopped in a Phoenix suburb. While there is a quick connect to Metro and ride share capabilities, as a Phoenix resident I don't have 60 minutes to take a train and then walk to work and I would really have to forego visiting friends in other neighborhoods unless I'm paying for Uber. Again, its more a flaw of Phoenix urban design rather than this neighborhood but I hope the public transit system and local infrastructure continues to change so that a project like this can be a reality for a Phoenix resident like me.
@abdullahrizwan592
@abdullahrizwan592 5 ай бұрын
Wow, this is so cool! I wonder how the hell the developer managed to convince the city council to not build parking spaces.
@bruce8443
@bruce8443 5 ай бұрын
Thanks. I will plan a bus trip to visit their restaurant.
@AssBlasster
@AssBlasster 5 ай бұрын
It also helps being a short tram/bike ride from a pedestrian friendly large university (ASU) and downtown Tempe. I would move here in a heartbeat if I wanted to burn in the hell that is Phoenix summer. Took a weekend trip last July with 110F temps and couldn't bike around more than 15 mins without chugging down a bottle of water
@wesleycanada3675
@wesleycanada3675 5 ай бұрын
Ya lol phoenix is definitely a e-bike city not a bike city because that change makes all the difference
@JohnDoe-my5ip
@JohnDoe-my5ip 5 ай бұрын
The “good” thing is, a majority of these apartments will be vacant during summer semester, so most of the residents aren’t gonna enjoy walking and biking in 120F hell on earth.
@wesleycanada3675
@wesleycanada3675 5 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-my5ip I've lived car free in the summer before. because the stores are so close to the homes its about as uncomfortable as the 5 minute of sitting in a roasting car with the ac turned down because the air is too hot
@niclasevaldsson1467
@niclasevaldsson1467 5 ай бұрын
I think it's a great start while the next step can be that those car free / car less areas become a part of the community. That people can easily walk and cycle to those local community centers from neighboring areas that can be a mix of different types of apartment buildings, terrace- / townhouses and single family homes. Leading to a greater variety and more of local shops and restaurants. While also increasing the opportunities for public transport and other alternatives to cars. Like for example already in many parts of Europe.
@angelaburress8586
@angelaburress8586 5 ай бұрын
I don’t want my house to be amongst a bunch of apartment buildings that defeats the purpose of even having a house it throws of the look of the neighborhood, devalues the house and stop trying to jam as many people into a small area as possible please 💁🏽‍♀️💁🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️
@niclasevaldsson1467
@niclasevaldsson1467 5 ай бұрын
@@angelaburress8586 There can not only be urban sprawls, there people are forced to own a car, and high density areas with high rise apartments buildings. Instead you can also for example have three story apartment building terrace house, and single family housing areas with a mutual community center with shops, restaurants and access to public transport. That this leads to more choices, convenience and community spirit while also more space for parks and other public land.
@thomasolson1429
@thomasolson1429 5 ай бұрын
It is in fact my favorite tautology-An absolute necessity. Increase the size 10 fold with more infrastructure with car rentals, hospital, swimming pools, theaters, market walking streets and you have a future that puts a dent into the car centric economy.
@angelaburress8586
@angelaburress8586 5 ай бұрын
Y’all are delusional because it’s more people that don’t want to ever desire to walk everywhere or desire to ride public transportation
@connorparadis4804
@connorparadis4804 5 ай бұрын
@@angelaburress8586 there's actually a place for people like that! It's called "the rest of America".
@tadtomd
@tadtomd 5 ай бұрын
Not really utilizing “tautology” in a correct or meaningful way here
@micosstar
@micosstar 5 ай бұрын
finally, a new carfree neighborhood! - mico p.s. came from youtube recommend (already subbed for months before!)
@michaelopp5389
@michaelopp5389 5 ай бұрын
Perfect for ASU students that don't want to be too close to campus but not far away.
@andrebetita
@andrebetita 5 ай бұрын
I have not been there yet, but from an outsider's perspective, looking in, my biggest issue with it so far is ... the name. Why call it "Culdesac"? Not exactly a word that evokes car-free culture. You're not likely to even SEE a culdesac in this place.
@Mrwizard-ck7oe
@Mrwizard-ck7oe 5 ай бұрын
Aaaaand its all for rich people 1500k apartments. Glad to see rich people get to live the life i wish i could. This is for the people who want the aesthetic of urbanism and sustainability without all the dirty poor people
@climateandtransit
@climateandtransit 5 ай бұрын
Damn! Didn’t know rent was 1,500,000! All jokes aside the average 1 bed in Tempe is $1900 that is 400 dollars below market. All new housing is good because it reduces the demand by filling supply.
@CalebinColorado
@CalebinColorado 5 ай бұрын
First shot is Chattanooga, TN - Love this town, not much public transit but very walkable if you live in Northshore.
@kourier_4818
@kourier_4818 5 ай бұрын
It kind of feels like College without the classroom. even down to the shops and grocer. I don't even think that is a bad thing as I enjoyed the walkable nature of my college campus. It was nice waking up in the dorm, walking to the dining hall for breakfast, and then chilling around the green spaces around campus meeting all kinds of different people from all over the nation. I also think the agreement with the city to encourage public transit is a smart idea. I would love to see this concept in other cities.
@urstaxfetish1206
@urstaxfetish1206 5 ай бұрын
That is not a neighborhood that just a really wide condominium with possible mix use zoning.
@humanecities
@humanecities 5 ай бұрын
Great video, Ethan! I love the thought put into this community and can’t wait for more!
@Elfin990
@Elfin990 5 ай бұрын
The problem with narrow streets/walkways is safety, those cute little streets can become unwelcoming and dangerous when more people move in or are opened to the general public. This looks a-lot like an British Estate.
@ttopero
@ttopero 5 ай бұрын
That was a very appropriate tour; great length & editing! I refuse to call Culdesac a neighborhood. It’s an apartment complex and/or subdivision that is nicely designed for people to move about without a car. A community, probably. My other beef with their marketing is that it’s more car-light than car free. The primary difference is the lack of onsite parking lots. There’s still a parking lot for the commercial spaces (could be avoided if truly a car-free “neighborhood”, & the car is still a key method of getting around Tempe & the valley for it spread. The bus isn’t that useful & the train only runs on 20-minute headways. I was there a year ago before they opened & found that this island of car-lite was all alone with standard car-oriented development to be quite disappointing! I’ll check it out in a couple months but while I appreciate the pedestrian orientation, let’s not pretend this is how to construct sustainable & livable neighborhoods.
@wesleycanada3675
@wesleycanada3675 5 ай бұрын
Here’s a few responses to your concerns. 1. It is a car free neighbor hood because the parking isn not allowed for residence and as part of the deal with Tempe, residence arnt allowed to park on the surrounding streets. The parking lot is mainly for delivery 2. Your point about it being an island of walkability is kinda the point it makes all the other apartments around it much more walkable. And gives young professionals a way to not live with the cost of cars 3. The rail runs at 15 minute head ways. you were either there on a Sunday or you may be referring to the Tempe street care that runs at 20 minutes but is moving towards 15minutes in the coming months 4. I don’t think the video did the best job of showing the scale of final project that tiny parking lot serves 1000 housing units over 17 acres
@pongop
@pongop 5 ай бұрын
Very cool and it's a good start, although Culdesac could be better. As you said, hopefully we'll see more car-free places around the country! To keep the conversation going, there's an excellent video called "How to turn your Neighborhood into a Village" from Andrew Millison's channel.
@taleseylad1249
@taleseylad1249 5 ай бұрын
I read an article about the this neighborhood and I'm glad to see real footage of this neighborhood
@maxinefinnfoxen
@maxinefinnfoxen 5 ай бұрын
I hope this place succeeds, but tbh it kind of feels more like its "personality" is being the opposite of car dependancy rather than simply being a place that doesnt rely on cars. Its like someone who is technically doing the right thing but only in stubborness towards the wrong thing. Why are the buildings so sterile? Why is there no mention of encuraging small buisnesses and markets to fill in? Why is there no public space that everyone would have a sense of responsibility and ownership for, like a garden or art gallery?
@falsificationism
@falsificationism 2 ай бұрын
I want this to work and expand rapidly. Typically it's pretty tough to design counter-systems within existing systems though.
@mdhazeldine
@mdhazeldine 5 ай бұрын
This looks promising. Shame that it's so empty right now but as you say, hopefully that'll change soon. After looking at it on Google Maps, my only beef with it is that the pedestrian crossing to the light rail station looks quite dangerous. It's a very fast road and all they've done to slow cars down is put up 2 traffic lights and a luminous yellow sign. They haven't really changed the road design to make it safer to cross. They could've narrowed the road, put in bollards, a speed hump, extra road markings, built a bridge (with elevators) or an underpass for the cars, but no. Just traffic lights and a sign. Seems a bit of an afterthought if that's the main way in and out of the development.
@markevans8206
@markevans8206 5 ай бұрын
The name “culdesac” is a bit ironic since culdesacs are notorious for making neighborhoods car dependent. My concern about these developments is they will make little isolated islands, probably to the benefit of some rent seeking corporation rather than an actual organic environment owned by people in the community and able to adapt to changing needs. I think we should be more focused on car optional neighborhoods that are pedestrian and bike friendly with public transportation. Both for new development and evolving existing neighborhoods.
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. You'll get people to stop using cars if you simply forbid them... or if you offer good alternatives: plenty of amenities in walking / cycling distance, viable public transport, and infrastructure designed around pedestrians and cyclists. And you can get people to get rid of their cars, simply by forbidding private ownership... or by offering alternatives that are far cheaper. Rentals exists but actually renting one is a giant pain in the rear. Self driving cars will be a game changer, not for the driving experience but for the simple fact that the rental car can be summoned 30 minutes before you feel you need a car, drive itself to your place, and leave after you're done with it. It will be way cheaper than owning a car and almost as convenient for infrequent trips. Once we have that, many people (myself included) would consider getting rid of their car. And that will free up a whole lot of parking.
@rikabernar
@rikabernar 5 ай бұрын
That's so cool! Thanks for sharing)
@lockdot2
@lockdot2 5 ай бұрын
I am a driver, I drive about 80 miles per day. But will avoid driving in the city if I can.. Which is hard where I live. I would like to live in a place like Culdesac. Sounds nice to safely walk or bike to a store. It would cut down a lot on traffic for the people who want to drive.
@manm2003
@manm2003 5 ай бұрын
The developer and city deserve props. I hope it’s embraced by the community and becomes an example for others.
@micosstar
@micosstar 5 ай бұрын
4:48 bruh the plug!!
@theotheleo6830
@theotheleo6830 5 ай бұрын
Those stores won't get enough business from that small community to be sustainable, especially if the grocery store is pricey. Most residents will be at work most of the day, so the businesses will be empty. And since there's little foot traffic from outside the community, they'll go bust.
@sethborman7844
@sethborman7844 14 күн бұрын
The market is now open and it's packed whenever I go in there, usually 4-12 people at a time all day long.
@theotheleo6830
@theotheleo6830 14 күн бұрын
@@sethborman7844 4-12 people don't fit the meaning of packed, but it is more than I expected.
@sethborman7844
@sethborman7844 13 күн бұрын
@@theotheleo6830 it's a convenience store, not a Walmart.
@theotheleo6830
@theotheleo6830 13 күн бұрын
@@sethborman7844 Oh, okay. The narrator mislabeled it as a grocery store. A convenience store makes much more sense for that complex than a grocery store.
@kfen8794
@kfen8794 5 ай бұрын
is it all rentals or are there any condos?
@tangomango2353
@tangomango2353 5 ай бұрын
I'm a huge fan of urbanism and walkable cities but I don't know if I'd live in this specific development. It seems more catered to people wealthier than I am and the store thing is kind of discouraging. This is super exciting, though and I hope it starts a trend of dense walkable developments like it around the country. Love to see it❤
@benjaminchandler7919
@benjaminchandler7919 2 ай бұрын
This seems like a cool place to live most of the year, but I worry about the lack of places to store cars owned by out of state visitors or residents that will want to take road trips out of state. My suggested solution: build a parking garage under this neighborhood
@enjoystraveling
@enjoystraveling 5 ай бұрын
I most definitely would live in a car, free car light community if I found one in a different state than Arizona. Actually now I’m thinking of living overseas but wish that wasn’t the only option to try to live car light.
@rolandj
@rolandj 5 ай бұрын
Looking at this, it reminds me of some university campuses. Which brings to mind, why aren't there any towns or neighborhoods designed similarly to university campus? Most are extremely walkable, have complete services, and contain housing and efficient transit options.
@oscaruglyface
@oscaruglyface 5 ай бұрын
I wish my Tucson condo complex was designed like this
@Saiarts_yt
@Saiarts_yt 5 ай бұрын
For a car-free neighborhood, I would like to visit Culdesac, Arizona not one day but for a year. I would like America to promote more cities like this, I don't want to say this but I've seen way to many fat people here in United States.
@AL5520
@AL5520 5 ай бұрын
This is a nice start, close to near the Tempe city center and has the Valley Line station and one stop from the street car. That said, Tempe's city center has more density and shops but it's still looks pretty deserted, like a suburb that most of the inhabitants are somewhere else during the day. As for the place itself. First of all it's a block of apartments, not a neighborhood (unless you have different definitions) and it looks more like a mall as, just like a mall, it does offer a nice car free area for pedestrians but it's not natural but planned and controlled. The developers lease the apartments so no on owns places and they can control who lives there, what he can or cannot do and what kind of shops the residents have. Hopefully this will bring real car free and more pedestrian and bike friendly areas that are developed by the city and different people own/lease/rent apartments and different shops and other business can offer what they want with more choices for the residents and will enable more people to work there and not commute every day.
@wesleycanada3675
@wesleycanada3675 5 ай бұрын
This is only phase 1 the neighborhood will be 17 acres and a thousand people
@animerage1862
@animerage1862 5 ай бұрын
I love the idea, my only thing as someone that spent most of their lives in Arizona, especially east valley, is the fact that you need a car to get literally anywhere else in the state. It is great to live in a car free neighborhood and not have to drive every time you need something, but most people's work are a solid 20-30 miles away from where they live, if you want to roadtrip up north or go anywhere else in the state you need a car. I would have loved to live in this neighborhood, but it would have been virtually impossible for me because i did a lot of gig work that required me to drive everywhere in metro phoenix, and my family lived several hours away from phoenix, it just wouldn't work. I live in NYC now and love that I can walk everywhere but I feel trapped in the city too and would love to be able to have a car here just to have the freedom to go anywhere I wanted. So while I love the idea of the care free neighborhood I do think you need to have an offsite parking area for those that need to be able to leave the neighborhood.
@JohnDoe-my5ip
@JohnDoe-my5ip 5 ай бұрын
There’s an enormous university ten minutes away by tram. That’s who this is mainly for. Students. Not locals with jobs. It’s a testament to this developer’s marketing prowess, that people are missing this very obvious point. That this isn’t a real neighborhood. That ASU students shouldn’t need or want cars. And you know what? Why should any of us care if a developer’s project fails or not? They think there’s a market. Let them spend their money to build it. Worst case scenario, it created jobs. There needs to be severe limitations at a federal level on the power of zoning boards. They are absolutely out of control. No one should have the right to tell me I can’t build a five over one on my land instead of a single family house, or an ADU instead of a shed in my backyard. For a country so obsessed with property rights, we sure love to bend over for the zoning board.
@animerage1862
@animerage1862 5 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-my5ip If its mainly for the students then great, they can add to the student housing whatever they want, everyone that has seen this project knows the only people who will be able to move in are students. I would love more of this for the general population as well, I want to be able to live in a mostly walkable/biking community without having to live next to a college, it's just in order for it to not be another student housing project you have to factor in that people need cars to leave the neighborhood. I'm all for it, just wish it was more applicable to everyone.
@tandriklos177
@tandriklos177 5 ай бұрын
Don't go anywhere. Sit still in your shoebox apartment, order food, order stuff, find remote work. Forget about road trips, this is bad for environment.
@odrap3884
@odrap3884 5 ай бұрын
@@tandriklos177you will own nothing and be happy 😂
@alejandrodelacerda5164
@alejandrodelacerda5164 5 ай бұрын
I don't mean to be a downer in the comments as most seem positive on the Culdesac development. I love the idea, I've even been to the grocery store on site a couple of times. However, at this time in the Phoenix metro area, it just isn't feasible to not have a personal vehicle of your own (imo). I love the light rail more than most, but the frequencies here are quite bad and are pretty slow, it can take over half an hour just to get to Downtown Phoenix. Bus frequencies are even worse. While there are cars available to rent at Culdesac as far as I know, I don't view that as sufficient enough. It also seems that the people who would benefit most from a walkable neighborhood cannot afford to live here. I live care free in the area and though it isn't impossible, everyday tasks and trips take significantly more time, not to mention any extended trips within the Valley. I greatly appreciate your videos and enjoy them, I just wanted to share my perspective as someone living in the area car free.
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