AMG Project One & Emira: Disappointments or Misunderstood? [S5, E39]
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This week Tony and I discuss:
00:37 A Mille Miglia hiccup?
09:01 Tony has never had jet lag?!
12:09 My Canada trip
15:11 The big reveal! 👀
25:10 Goodword Festival of Speed is coming!
29:38 Mercedes AMG Project One 🚀💰
43:00 Lotus Emira first reviews are out 😬
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@nickb- 2 жыл бұрын
Evo review of the Lotus was a bit of an outlier. You should watch Harry's Garage for a far more balanced review. The Emira is supposed to be a sporty GT car, a modern Espirit, not a track day weapon like the Exige. Evo totally missed the point on this and did a track test against a GT4.
@reuben.mathew2 2 жыл бұрын
the irony that harry started evo magazine
@steerj07 2 жыл бұрын
@@reuben.mathew2 But is no longer with them.
@TRX25EX 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that Lotus missed things up when they offered a Sport setup with GoodYear tyres, they should have made things simple if you: Reviewing on track: Sport/Cup2 Reviewing on road: Tour/Goodyear That would have made it more sensible
@FastTeam11 2 жыл бұрын
100% with you. And Harry was absolutely brimming with joy driving it on the road. And frankly i trust him by far the most. Just never got why so many people were doing a TRACK test with a ROAD car and then think they can judge it fairly. Makes no sense to me...
@matt3997 2 жыл бұрын
Harry rates it. That's all we need to know.
@jrgenjrgen1165 2 жыл бұрын
The history of AMG-One sounds like the history of Jaguar XJ220. The result was not as expected.
@bryangojanovic8668 2 жыл бұрын
Thursday’s are easily becoming a day we all look forward to! Congrats on 50k guys you deserve it!
@danielmarsland7519 2 жыл бұрын
Not this week though, sure Sam said he was double recording so we wouldn't miss out while him and Tony are away
@DiscoticUK 2 жыл бұрын
Tony's joy at saying "specific" instead of "Pacific" is an absolute vibe
@goproclips 2 жыл бұрын
Sam didn’t care 😂😂
@HUMC5 2 жыл бұрын
AMG One: 2017: 1,000hp / 0-200km/h:
@tictoc677 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Looks like they just gave up.
@william_SMMA 2 жыл бұрын
@@tictoc677 lol
@henryhol8538 2 жыл бұрын
The review on Harry's Garage showed the full picture. He drove the track focused one and the one that was more road biased. It was also mentioned (here and on other channels) that this isnt the production car, and as such, things like the infotainment, gearchange and clutch can still be improved.
@djs3832 2 жыл бұрын
The Emira is the best looking 70 to 80k car on the market so it has that on its side. Also it drives like a Lotus
@jordancoulter6408 2 жыл бұрын
Can't get enough of this podcast I wish it was 2 or 3 hours long every week 😂
@stealth_yellow 2 жыл бұрын
The Emira is a GT car not a track car. In my mind that means auto box. I’m going AMG DCT. I’ll keep my exige 410 for the track days. Loving this channel.
@HoolieUK 2 жыл бұрын
Well done on the 50K chaps, well deserved. Love your work
@lewisgale100 2 жыл бұрын
Echo a lot of the below comments. Harry Metcalfe’s review seems very balanced. Good to hear the comparison between Sport And Touring suspension setups and overall car seems a good option to someone who may be ‘tired’ of the 718 range. Shame the front boot well…isn’t a boot. But car seems well put together (as compared to some older lotus products) modern interior and good engine choice. Hopefully a return to form for lotus.
@michaelsieber98 2 жыл бұрын
the thing with the One is, in 2019 when the OPF was introduced they had to develop a complete new exhaust and had trouble getting it legal at all
@michaelsieber98 2 жыл бұрын
and the issue is, small Manufacturers don't need to comply with emissions as strictly, so it is way more difficult for Mercedes to do it
@antoinechauvet6702 2 жыл бұрын
Great podcast as always, for other opinions on Emira Harry's Garage has been very positive about it.
@dansutherland70 2 жыл бұрын
You probably ought to watch the Harry's Garage video about the Emira. It explains the situation far better than the magazine-based videos and gives some good context for their opinions. I think the car will be awesome in touring spec, but will fall short in track spec. But then the Cayman leaves me cold, it looks like a frog and belongs in a pond. :)
@NewHandle_ 2 жыл бұрын
Hope this podcast keeps going, I enjoy it so much
@emixmim 2 жыл бұрын
The rarest iteration of the 992 GT3 is going to be the Touring PDK.
@magnustan841 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know mate, that' what I would go for, unless I'm one of 10 amongst 1000 GT3 buyers.
@jamme1r0 2 жыл бұрын
Please do “an idiot abroad” with Tony!!! Both of you in one car exploring a new country! Would be so funny!
@anthonyjarvis9472 2 жыл бұрын
woohooo 50k CONGRATS LADS, well deserved!
@LittleSilver389 2 жыл бұрын
"Just let me come, I'm a good laugh" - Brilliant!
@doug3011 2 жыл бұрын
Tony's Success is all the more impressive with his learning disabilities. d great vid as usual
@mbal4052 2 жыл бұрын
What learning disability does he have?
@mikemitch1041 2 жыл бұрын
Got my tickets for Goodwood going for 2 days really looking forward to it , great episode as usual
@onkouth 2 жыл бұрын
The AMG One has been in development for so long its already outdated. This smacks of the Jag XJ220 debacle in the 80s, customers promised one thing, got something completely different. Ironically they probably got the better car in the end but everyone, and i mean literally everyone, pulled outta that car because it wasn't what they had been promised
@kevletmein 2 жыл бұрын
These podcasts are single-handedly the best car podcast on KZfaq. Please keep them coming. You two doing road trips together would also be fantastic.
@leezep9794 2 жыл бұрын
50k subs congratulations gentlemen!
@jmanhuntley 2 жыл бұрын
love that end edit..lol you guys are great, hope to bump into you at GW Sam
@mattg9971 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are getting better every episode. Keep it up!
@ethanhynes9350 2 жыл бұрын
Tony freaking out after saying “specific” correctly made the podcast! great work chaps!
@SidsBeemer 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 50K guys!
@matthieuvandendurpel5316 2 жыл бұрын
50.000 subs congratz!!!
@aidan5184 2 жыл бұрын
theres nothing better than when the pod devolves into the manual vs pdk chat, never gets old
@joeyoung4942 2 жыл бұрын
Tony is on point this week 😂😂 keep it up chaps!
@TannerRE 2 жыл бұрын
sam we really need long format daily vids with Tony on this trip please. he's going to be a riot I bet
@scott214 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 50k!
@jodylawbmx 2 жыл бұрын
50k finally! Only 6 months overdue. Congrats guys
@AbdullahHood 2 жыл бұрын
The reviews weren’t negative for the Emira.
@Mad69Russian 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 50,000 subscribers.
@manman464 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats for the 50k ✌️
@chrisdyson5513 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous episode, looking forward to seeing if Tony actually makes it to The Mille Miglia. As for Goodwood, I think their best festival is the Revival. Hope you go to that and make sone amazing content.
@xAdi420 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 50k subscibers! :)
@LemonJelly360 2 жыл бұрын
Pro Tip: The online renewal for your UK driving license is a brilliant process. If you have a valid passport it even pulls in that photo for you automatically, it is such a simple way to renew.
@markyb5489 2 жыл бұрын
Very good episode. Comical manual vs pdk chat from both Tony and Sam 😂👍
@Stigs722 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 50K
@eSysmanSuperYachts 2 жыл бұрын
Ref Lotus, Harry from Harry’s Garage loved the Lotus and has ordered one.
@larssonk22 2 жыл бұрын
I really want the Emira, just seen the GT4 version I need that rear wing on mine! I'm willing to wait for the AMG version, it maybe detuned (still quicker than the manual) but there is no shortage of good places that tune AMG engines.
@elmuerko 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, duel clutch, 50kg lighter, and can be tuned to near 500hp, hoping to order one about this time next year >.
@AliasProductions801 2 жыл бұрын
@@elmuerko both engines can be tuned for 500 hp. Really it’s just DCT vs Manual at this point lol.
@elmuerko 2 жыл бұрын
@@AliasProductions801 and torque, and weight, but that's cars, I loved the exposed shift linkage on the manual, but I think I'll enjoy the DCT and with a decent tune the car will have a really nice power to weight ratio
@certifiedbidry 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to go to goodwood for the first time this year.
@neilstothard 2 жыл бұрын
It was Mat Watson on Car Wow that compared the styling to be loosely like that of the F8 Tributo, His review was quite positive.
@gti_remus9691 2 жыл бұрын
17:24 the way tony said bastards had me crying lol
@DenisQuentinSimon 2 жыл бұрын
Sam, if you plan on keeping the car forever - alongside your manual 360 - it would make sense to have a PDK, so you could enjoy both worlds : analog 360 with manual gearbox, and PDK modern car with a crazy reving engine !
@cccourtz273 2 жыл бұрын
Ben you absolute legend, that end exit 🤣🤣🤣👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
@marksapollo 2 жыл бұрын
I went to Goodwood for 4 days with my family, never again, had a bad back and sore legs for a week after lol. We took a year off before the pandemic hit, last year we went for 2 days, this year just the 1 and probably only 1 day going forward every year we go. Will be keen to see Gordon Murrey’s new car if it’s there.
@davidroush1224 2 жыл бұрын
What I REALLY want is for Gordon to make the T.43 - that would be the true everyman's sports car and the one many of us hoped the Emira would be, but Lotus let us down. Truly light weight and a daily driver - basically an updated Elise. Probably will never happen, but it would be amazing.
@MarcSob22 2 жыл бұрын
The AMG ONE has already been shown late, between the end of 2022 and 2023 Porsche and Ferrari will launch replacements for the 918 and LaFerrari and they will arrive destroying this AMG ONE! What is known so far is that they will have less than 1200kg and more than 1100hp, the AMG ONE is extremely heavy and its performance level is compared to the SF90 which is a production car and not something special in the Ferrari lineup!
@sahs3811 2 жыл бұрын
I think Lotus Emira with the AMG engine is the one to go for, once you get a remap to plus 470bhp and an Ohlin coil over suspension set up that car will be amazing !
@BUMHEAD1100 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh very nice - something to listen to at lunch 🥙
@alunjones2550 2 жыл бұрын
The maths for the AMG One never added up from the day it was announced. It's not exactly a looker, either. Everything on a grand prix car is specifically designed for a grand prix car, especially the engine. Asking it to haul 1.7 tonnes is nuts.
@william_SMMA 2 жыл бұрын
Yup It looks sleeker than a Bugatti so it'll probably fool people into thinking it's faster around a track
@mattclements1503 2 жыл бұрын
Tony cracks me up - "and I tell you another thing!" Rant rant rant 🤣🤣🤣
@arzaluzx 2 жыл бұрын
You would love México guys!! 🇲🇽 The car community is awesome, the scenery and food! Although road quality is worse than the UK talking about pot holes, bumps and whatnot. And IT IS dangerous, in the sense that you ALWAYS have to be aware of your surroundings and what specific areas are you are driving into... You don´t want to go in certain places with a nice car. There are a couple of high end automotive clubs which would be perfect for you, but the whole car scene and people are so wholesome.
@ukbondraider 2 жыл бұрын
Problem with the Cayman is how FUGLY it is. I'd rather buy an Evora let alone an Emira over the Cayman.
@benpenagonzales6014 2 жыл бұрын
Emira has got to be the touring spec for the road. And actually I quite like the idea of the AMG 4 cylinder with the dual clutch as it’s more akin to the Esprit with a 2l 4 pot turbo.
@davidburgess8692 2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious hey Sam love the Tony impression
@theoccasionalbiker7732 2 жыл бұрын
Harry Metcalf compared the Emira to an F8, but if you watch the review he was only comparing the looks of the two. Harry loved the Emira btw.
@michaelhipolito6343 2 жыл бұрын
Classic tony made my day
@mooboo6603 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up travelling because of my parents. Bali is one of the worst places, unless you surf, or at least you go to the north/east part of the island. Constrained feeling, Crowded, tiny roads, high walls, polluted beaches
@Dr.Bob85 2 жыл бұрын
“Try to explain that to some Italians...” we’re in Italy at the moment, very recognisable :) hope all is resolved next week, we need the two of you at the MM.
@bruce6334 2 жыл бұрын
I love you guys . Tony you are so bloody funny . Never stop speaking your mind Tony. You two should both do another round the world tour together.
@prim1tive 2 жыл бұрын
The last clip at the end lmfaoooooo
@UKisFK 2 жыл бұрын
Best place to drive from London to Croatian Coast Albania and Greece, best driving I did
@samieb155 2 жыл бұрын
Had forgotten about the AMG Project 1. Thought it had been canned as an expensive Covid Project. Anyway hadn't listened to 1 of these for a while and had forgotten how good they can be at times. A friend had ordered a Lotus, but after a while wasn't prepared to wait for 3 or 4 years before his would arrive so decided to get his Deposit returned and buy a N/A 3.8 911 4 GTS instead.
@pacocarrillo5605 2 жыл бұрын
I’m from Mexico City and yes you’re right although there are a lot of amazing natural atractions to see there are some dangerous places specially to visit on a super car road trip because of the cartels but not all places are dangerous and there are some amazing roads you can still drive and enjoy without any risk.
@CP-vg4vy 2 жыл бұрын
Lets take into consideration that it has 0-300 of 15.6 . Much faster than cars mentioned on list. We also have to wait for independent test on the car as sometimes Mercedes can be conservative with stats. I think this car will deliver around a track against those cars mentioned on the list, it will be like the 918 when it first came out.
@william_SMMA 2 жыл бұрын
15.6 would have been impressive in 2010 lol 12 years ago
@monix3864 2 жыл бұрын
I actually saw the AMG-One concept car and looked brilliant, but yes, that was like 3-4years ago. Since then so many things changed and with it not delivering on the aims I agree with you. But the Emira, I think you will like it Sam, because it seems to fix many of the Evora issues while essentialy being the same.
@newandroid14 2 жыл бұрын
Same, saw the static car at Goodwood Festival of Speed. I expected the specs to be crazy not similar to SF90. Wouldn't surprise me if customers flip their cars
@martinbaker8807 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed that! I think the AMG will be more impressive than the stats, something very different to the usual Hypercar and perhaps even better than a 918 spyder. How many times have we seen an underdog at launch become totally desired down the line… I’ve run an Exige 380 for 3 years. The V6 is ok in that, 1100kg, but it’s an old lump and now I own a GT4, the engine is light years ahead. Emira is a good starting point, I’m interested in a lighter more focused variant with the AMG motor, that could be tasty 😋
@pietrom5564 2 жыл бұрын
Come to Brazil!! I'll love it here
@dmitryt9286 2 жыл бұрын
What a drop would that be for LFA. From the best sounding car to no sound.
@nickgalla-barth6336 2 жыл бұрын
That was Matt Watson (Car Wow), who said the Emira is like a budget F8 Tributo
@BarryMakariou 2 жыл бұрын
Project One isn’t allowed into U.S…cancelled orders a plenty
@duffyt26 2 жыл бұрын
PS: Shoutout to Tony for being honest about the GR Yaris, got me a '22 GR Yaris, it's just stupid mad! How this car exists I will never understand but i'm glad it does!
@WilliamStevens007 2 жыл бұрын
Harry's garage I think got it spot on, I think its a wonderful thing that new Lotus. Think you will eating your hats in a years time. I would love one.
@TheLambo123254 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the 992 GT3!
@TjibbeVieberink 2 жыл бұрын
That ending, hilarious!!
@mrkmcknz 2 жыл бұрын
Fortunate enough to have a PDK winged GT3 and spent time in a Touring manual. Not sure why but I can't imagine the Winged with a manual and a Touring with a PDK. One thing I will say is beg, borrow and steal to get the Carbon brakes.
@DeanMurphyCDM 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I’d say is try both before deciding. I ordered my 992 Touring with steels, despite carbon ceramics being available, because I prefer the feel.
@Drew-ub4ih 2 жыл бұрын
The accent when you were talking about manual vs. pdk 😂
@christopherwebb8371 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely the Best in the Business 👍🏼
@ovi765 2 жыл бұрын
I love the ending
@Tua_Esque 2 жыл бұрын
Lunch break sorted 👌
@VipondFilms 2 жыл бұрын
Such a funny play off you two, I like cars but I’m not a car nut and I watch this weekly for the crack haha
@daysofgrace2934 2 жыл бұрын
Interested in an Emira V6 Touring auto, it’s road car with track capabilities like a Ferrari California...I do 4-5 track days, enjoy blast on Hertfordshire A/B roads...
@muhamadfadzlyshaharani5787 2 жыл бұрын
True. Before, lotus made cars cater for specific person/driver. Emira meanwhile was made so its usable for everyday used. Love it or hate it, that was the recipe lotus needed the reach economic of scale.
@salidris6967 2 жыл бұрын
How old is the Cayman it's had so many engines☹. Let's see when we get the gt or cup version of the Emira. Styling of the Emira looks amazing and sounds fantastic.
@josegomez5881 2 жыл бұрын
You guys made it to 50k!!!!!
@neilpatching7443 2 жыл бұрын
Also I think I need to leave Australia the pricing for the Emira First Edition is 3 x the price in UK at $212,000 here and the Cayman GTS is $256,000 with no options. The Australia tax is a killer
@emixmim 2 жыл бұрын
CCBs and some options are currently restricted in EU as well.
@Kmaitland89 2 жыл бұрын
I live in America and can tell you that 75% of people who own trucks/pickups don’t use it for anything other than a daily driver. I’ve never understood it.
@neilpatching7443 2 жыл бұрын
I will also agree that Harry's review is great of the Emira and as it was said in all of the reviews the car they were driving was NOT a production car it was still a pre production "test and tooling" version. Take from that what you may. Harry loved it so I am with Harry on this. Cheers 🍻
@aeromotive2 2 жыл бұрын
i think Emira is an advancement for lotus overall, but also a small step back in some areas. Good news is succeeding versions should mitigate that
@jf6853 2 жыл бұрын
Project One is slower than a 10 year old P1 😂👍
@chrizzzleshizzle 2 жыл бұрын
But only straight line
@ryanpuryear 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrizzzleshizzle It weighs significantly more as well. I suspect similar track performance. Those that thought this was a Valkyrie competitor were way off.
@jf6853 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrizzzleshizzle it’s all juat wrong. Three three time price 🤣 it’s main issue is weight 👍 IMO
@miklas.k 2 жыл бұрын
I can imagine that its quicker than they say
@jo05dk 2 жыл бұрын
My take on the Emira, based on the reviews i've seen, is that Lotus have done really well. Going up against the Cayman and not falling on your face is a fantastic place to start. They will need to improve the car, but the basis is there. Issue, as described by you guys, is: How many go cold and drop their order now that it hasn't destroyed the Cayman and every other car out there. If they still have enough sales to develop the car, i see a future for the Emira. ..and i do hope there is a future for Lotus, eventhough i'm not a fan of them diluting the brand personally. Lotus, to me, is a mk1 Elise with a K-series engine, or most of the older cars. Simplify and add lightness, yes please
@rijofernandes 2 жыл бұрын
You are right sam. you buy suitably with your use. Don't worry
@carguyuk7525 2 жыл бұрын
Should have done on on line licence application.
@Slin985 2 жыл бұрын
The AMG One turned into a disaster for Mercedes-AMG basically. They burned way more cash than they wanted to and the car doesn't deliver the performance Mercedes and the public was expecting, so it doesn't generate a hype around the brand. It's a nightmare basically and they just had to pull the plug now before it gets even worse
@mjrowden 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, but still… imagine complaining about 0-125 in 7 seconds! Most people haven’t ever been that fast in their life, and most owners will either never drive them or pootle around Monaco at 10mph
@henryhealy 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Nothing about it gets me excited. Just a disaster all round.
@Slin985 2 жыл бұрын
@@mjrowden sure but the car gets the hype for what it COULD do and not for what the owners actually do with it. So if the car is slower in a straight line and around the track than a SF90 it really “just” has the F1 engine as a selling point and for 2.5 million even a formula one engine makes the price hard to justify
@william_SMMA 2 жыл бұрын
@@Slin985 spot on lol Not to mention a majority of hypercars actually go on track and are drag raced So this notion of them driving 10mph around London or Monaco is incorrect and frankly stupid
@justindewey6914 2 жыл бұрын
You need to do Costa RIca. Hire a Jimny. Perfect.
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