It would actually be really refreshing for Sam to buy a car that's attainable for most of the audience. Forget £100k+ new porsche, let's have a look at some 25-30k weapons! 😊

‘Send the gearbox an email’ 😂 . Do the same you both reviewing Tony’s M3, that would be a good follow up from this episode to see how much fast estates have improved.

Thanks for having us down gents! Great fun.

This era of cars will be looked back on as the perfect time where new meets old

That 6.2 AMG V8 is an absolute marvel. I experienced an E63 with that lump, immense torque for an n/a engine

Omg, you two sound so much like an old married couple. "Tony there's a truck in front" So funny. Keep it up.

Tony's jump scare at 44:53, is amazing. 😆🤣 Great video guys.

Having driven both and owned a C63 there’s a couple of points I’d make. The C63’s gearbox is brisk but only in M mode. Any other mode and the paddle is more of a suggestion. It’s one thing I’ve painfully watched missed by countless motoring journalists since the car came out unfortunately but glad you realised. It does seem like the adaptions need to be reset though. Also they did a Performance Pack Plus option with LSD, which is how I had mine. Better suspension, better brakes and the diff made such a difference to the drive and overall enjoyment of the car. The Audi was slow then and painfully slow now. Much more refined for sure but like most Audis, zero character or soul. The merc on the other hand, I really enjoyed. I am spoiled by having a few more high end cars but hand on heart, I really miss the bark of that 6.2 engine. I think it’s iconic, in the same way the v10 in the m5 was. A 6.2 in a C class is just wild.

I’ve had a C63 saloon 09’ for about 3 years and 30k miles, and just loved every single day. The gearbox it’s not that responsive like new cars or DCT, but you get used to. Missed it since then.

Would love you two to rate my ride in my GT3-MR and compare it to your own GT3's gents

Tony laughing at Sam with him panicking into the roundabout, and then Sam is on it , hits a couple of downshifts and Tony jumps out his skin 😂

ITS THURSDAY LUNCHTIME GUYS

To be fair to the C63 that is the last of that generation they came out in 2008, where as the RS4 was the 1st of the new generation from 2012 on. The C63 feels and looks older simply because it's really a generation before the B8 RS4. I had one of them C63 wagons in a 2011 plate and it was a brilliant car back then I loved the thing.

Saw a UK plated RS4 Avant on winter tyres high up in the Alps this week - legend. Nice when you see these kind of cars used properly. Great episode chaps!

I`d still have the C63 AMG Estate both cars are brilliant but the AMG Sound is addictive as hell. I own a 2013 C Class 220cdi and even that is a hard ride, great motorway car for long journeys.

Loving the expanding content. You and Tony are a riot!

Something to remember though is the RS4 here was a newer generation. The E92 and W204 were from 2007 when the current RS4 was the B7 Having owned a performance pack c63 I can only assume the brakes on the std model weren’t very good. The composite brakes that came on the PP were some of the best brakes going and even stood up to track use despite these not being track cars. I also assume the suspension and set-up on the car driven was perhaps a little tired and needed a refresh as again the PP car I owned was brilliant

The B8 RS4's never feel that quick because of the lack of torque. Lots of them lose power due to carbon build-up on the valves as this is a direct injection engine. Might be why this car felt particularly slow.

C63 ‘slate my ride’ 😂.. great episode guys 🙌.. look forward to the next instalment of the series 👌🏼

This is a great concept, keep doing This 👍

Great format, loved it!

Haha nice one Tony. He does know his stuff to be fair to him, was impressed with that Audi suspension knowledge! Good episode fellas

I like these Rate My Ride. Fun to watch, hoping to see more.

I love this new format

both of you doing a test is way better. nice to see both takes on the experience

Loved the comparison. Please more of that. M5 vs e63, Amg gt s vs 991.2 Carrera s etc. back to back

I really love these videos like this you should make more :)

Great episode. Thanks very much. Kindest regards, Richard U.K

Love this format would be cool to see some exterior shots aswell

love this new format

Like father and son outing in a cool wagon 🥰very cool video love the C63❤

I had a 2013 c63 estate for nearly 3 years and it made every journey fun. Yes it’s far from perfect but that sound, which by the way on some downshifts when you catch at the right revs is so satisfying with the cracks, and the rear instability makes it. I haven’t much experience of newer semi autos, but I found it fine once used to it. The car also generally gets the right attention as it’s the estate and not a more obvious c63 like the saloon and the coupe. Good review though and can see your points.

Love this - I have a 2015 B8 RS4 Limited Edition (Get me!!). You are spot on about this car. A bargain. I adore it.

That generation of C63 came out in 2008 and while it did get a refresh in 2011, the bulk of it is still 17 year old technology, where as the B8 RS4 first came out in 2012. Also you drove the RS4 in dynamic mode and pretty much drove the C63 in comfort mode for the whole test drive, which is why the gearbox is was slow. you should have been driving it in sport plus or manual mode for manual gear changes. The W204 & w205 C63 up to 2019 have the exact same gearbox

Hybrid of both would be good = AMG engine in the Audi build & chassis ride would be a great car. Great video Sam & Tony 👌

Dynamic Ride control (DRC) is pneumatic suspension with cross linked dampers, it's not magnetic ride which is a different system. The original DRC system was plagued by weeping shocks and valves however gen 2 dampers were better. Biggest problem is owners never had DRC serviced which is why some of them went wrong. Anyone with a DRC equipped car over 3 years old and out of warranty would be mad to take it to Audi to service fix / repair, £6k at franchise is more like £2k at an independent that has the DRC pressurisation tool so same price at a Ohlins or decent Bilstein kit. Going into 'dynamic' opens exhaust valves, sharpens throttle / steering responses and gearbox shift, no suspension travel change on DRC. Biggest Achilles heal of the B7 and B8 RS4's is whilst the engines sound glorious and revvy, they are torque light so don't expect to get anywhere quickly. Best modification to give it personality, get an exhaust, just not Milltek! Great video as always Gents!

I had the B8.5 RS4 avant and it was amazing, 450 hp, that little bit more you wanted!

Very enjoyable 👍

Love how excited tony got when he thought he was going into the wall.

Ayy thought Y'all might like to know this. I'm probably not supposed to be saying this, but oh well. I was taking an online survey yesterday about podcasts and surprisingly enough y'all's podcast was on the list of the names of podcast to ask if I had listened to them before. Thought that was pretty cool. Hope you all like that little tidbit.

A 991 991.1 GTS is safe money now. The perfect naturally aspirated engine.

Love content as always, on side note for Tony lovely hoodie where from? 😂

These 2 are hilarious together 🤣

Love the B8 RS4 and you can spec them up really well too

7:15 looks like they're driving on the surface of the moon! Glad the suspension can apparently handle it better than it looks haha

I had an E63 with that engine and transmission and I loved that thing like a family pet that was a wolf. Every time I got out of it you were happy that you’re not dead or in jail because it’s always trying to kill you. The Audi’s always felt confident but no where near as fast. I ended up selling both and getting a Cayenne GTS and MK7.5 GTi. But I’m still combining through the adverts for another AMG.

Good video.

Wasn't the C63 still basically an '07 car with a minor facelift at this point? It definitely had an interior update, but has the tech ever changed during it's production?

So much better format than the first episode albeit I still miss the variation in terms of topics...but hey, great episode with 2 great cars, really enjoyed it! The era between 2005-2016ish is what made me love Audis- understated exterior and best in class interior with the best haptics... I d go as far and say, my favourite interiors to date and a main reason why I still rather want this generation than anything newer (B9 is also nice but that s basically the oldest layout Audi has on offer but the exterior of the B8s was cleaner). Exterior wise Audi totally lost me in terms of their newer cars, these horrific fronts looking like they had a swollen mouth wearing braces or the gloss black or even worse cheap looking silver accents. Meanwhile, Mercedes lost a lot of ground in terms of interior quality in the early 2000s and AMG went down a too extroverted and lairy route for my liking. What I ll never get is so many ppl incl. you guys being so fond of BMWs recent interiors...my sister has a 2023 X3 6 pot diesel and just for the interior alone, I just hate it with a passion and the one in the newest 3 series is almost as bad...Would rate it by far the worst of modern interiors of the German big 3...but hey, I despise all the newer interiors with too many screens and I bet they ll age extremely poorly.

I enjoyed this

I drive an S204 and the parking brake is actually amazing to use. Plus the middle console does not need an ugly parking brake.

Sam. Do you think the new shape SVR has firmer suspension than old one. I have the older shape and don’t find the suspension to firm. Are you driving in dynamic mode with stiffer suspension selected?

I would love to see them try out the E60 M5 or E61 M5 and use the SMG gearbox with Shift mode 5 and Shift mode 6 and 500Sport+ power mode!

32:00 The Bosch engineers who designed the systems are probably frothing at the mouth screaming "Zat is because you are not driving ze car in a safe manner!" 😂

😂😂😂😂 priceless..... ye need to borrow Paul's R8 sometime to have a craic of it and maybe a 2008/09 Porsche 997 to do comparison

Good to see you two doing some proper work….. a review 😜 Sounds to me like you’d be better off with a 3.0 diesel

Great episode but would have liked the front view mini screen that you had on the last episode

I’d love you to drive my 2013 mx5 it’s 300bhp. Tony will hate it, but it’s such a good time 😂

Interesting. Plenty quick enough for UK roads. Latest products are just silly quick. Unnecessary. Tony, you are just like me....a nervous passenger!

Said it for years, BMW have missed out on a lot of sales in not producing a M3 touring. And now they have, it’s an fugly ducking of a thing. It’s best view is it’s rear which is maybe as well due to its performance…… Great vid lads👍I too was a little disappointed in the C63 🤷🏻‍♂️ It’s looks are right up my street, clearly the brute of the duo but I couldn’t live with that archaic gearbox. RS4 it is then 😘

In dynamic it’s definitely noticeable that you’re both jumping around in your seats a bit more.

I’d still choose the B8 RS4. What a car 👌

Sam is great... but has a terrible memory 🙂muses about buying & running and SVR F-Type when he bailed from the RS6 due to crippling running costs

It would be interesting if this Rs4 has been decoked as are they not bad for that? Some lose quite a bit of power. RS4 looks lovely. B7 is my favourite shape though.

If im not wrong the c63 came out when the rs4 was still the B7 right? It is older tech inside and the e90 bmw as well. Brilliant review tho i had a great time and laugh watching it :)

Damn it, was hoping to be the first viewer this week!

I have to be honest I am not caring for this series. I would rather keep the reviews on the other channel with the excellent editing that you are known for.

In couple yrs that sound is going to me pleasing and speed not so important. Great solid cars

Would love another episode of ‘Car Park Chats’ with Mr Paul Wallace

My 2015 RS4 should have been the best car ever, bought at 25k miles from specialist, full Audi history, that V8, snappy DCT flappy paddles, endless practicality. In reality it did 12k of warranty in 1 year. Mainly down to the pathetically complex and fragile DRC suspension which was never fully solved (a full replacement is £9k).

RS4 all the way but I am biased because I'm an Audi fan from day one (lots of family history). But I agree with Sam, a few more NM and it would be perfect. I'd buy one at 20/25k and then put a tune on it

I live up in the hills, lots of narrow roads that an RS6 is just too big for, you're pulling into passing points with stone walls you want to fit into comfortably, for that reason I'd much rather an RS4 to an RS6, it just fits B-Road life much better.

What would have been really fun, was if you both jumped into a M340i after the C63.

I know it’s prob not the point, but isn’t there a software update now for the Mercs box?

For me C63 any day. The interior looks older, but imo that´s a good thing it ages better. The engine and sound are what sets it apart to me. Also the boxy exterior design works really good. Gearbox is trash though

Episode: ⭐⭐

About the harsh ride in the c63, the RS4 has Bilstein. Would an Bilstein on the c63 be as good as in the RS4?

Had a 15 plate B8 RS4, loved the styling like Sam. Good bits: Comfort, built like granite, sounds mega on down shifts. Bad bits: Steering is appalling, stick it fast into a bend and it goes from light to heavy leaving it very hard to position accurately. Gear box is asleep until you pin it, it then drops down too many gears and it's like an out of control elephant. In the wet on a round about it goes from rapid understeer to oversteer. Servicing, fuel and road tax are all out of control. Total oxymoron, you'd be better off with the bi-turbo diesel A6 Avant. Just as fast etc and cheaper to run.

33:25 do they not just need a gearbox remap then?

I think I prefer just the podcast

E46 m3 review next please!

I think Tony meant to say catastrophically 😂.

I thought a 2013 C63 AMG was expensive, being almost the last year with the big NA V8. I have just looked at a 13 model C63 saloon with only 30000 km on the clock, Japan import, looks like a new car! But here in my country, its quite some money asked for it, 730000 kr/£53200. Was thinking of trading my ultra low mileage (8000 km) 2010 Mustang Roush Stage 550hp/700nm #79/103 made in total. But this review has slightly changed my mind🤔🤔

I'm curious what Sam would of thought if he reviewed these cars when they launched.

Poor lads. Drove 2 hours just for tony and sam to 💩 on their cars 🤣

Great vid chaps …Fact … you would be better spending 35k and getting a 2021 Golf R

audi's V8 has always been notorious for feeling slow, despite it being dynamically better the C63'S heart (the 6.2 N/A motor) wins it for me. if you always wanted an old style american muscle car but wanted a better built more modern interior with great reliability and be slightly understated then this car is a modern equivalent. as a daily the audi hands down wins (its a great car) but as something for an occasion the mercedes puts the smile on your face everytime and after all this is what im looking for in an older car like this.

Sam look at a w212 e63 with the 6.3 liter! Way more refined!

Should have brought in the e92 m3 which would have been the other rival in the trio. Most likely the best out of these 3

Modern day cars have advanced so much

For me the new 2024 RMR concept would work better as a maximum 15 min per vehicle video, and as a supplement to a shortened BTG podcast or a separate series to the regular BTG content, rather than a direct substitute. Gets boring fast otherwise.

Tony, what happened at 26:25?

Pull paddle.. pull paddle.. oh hang on I can’t drive lol

How 400hp doesn’t feel fast? Weird.

I love this for the main channel content but listening as a podcast, the sound is pretty low quality. Just my 2 cents...

Dodge offered the 2014 dodge magnum srt-8 then and cadillac offered the cts-v wagon 6.2L v8 from Gm that was the American made estate cars of the time. Rs4 is the better choice out these two but the amg dose sound better 😊

A remap would sort the RS4 out, wouldn't need to be a stupid remap but a subtle tune would make a difference I feel.

This segment would’ve been sown up if BMW did an E91 M3 touring. It would’ve driven properly with a proper dct or manual, look and sound great and practical. IMO the Audi is boring and the Mercedes seems unfinished, but the engine is magic

the LITERALLY brothers

My dream car is an electric Rs4