Ammo Types in War Thunder EXPLAINED | War Thunder Tank Shells Guide [outdated]

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In this video, I explain how the tank shells in War Thunder work. There are quite a large amount of different ammo types in the game, and it's easy to get confused about them. I spent a lot of time with detailed explanations and animations to help you understand each shell in the game. If you don't understand a shell or you noticed something wrong with the video, please leave it in the comments and I'll try my best to help you guys. Massive thanks to the War Thunder Wiki for providing much of the information in the video. Check it out here: wiki.warthunder.com/Tank_ammu...
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--TIMESTAMPS--
📘 Intro: 0:00
📕 Kinetic Energy: 0:19
📙 Solid Armor Piercing: 0:39
📒 APC: 1:02
📒 APBC: 1:19
📒 APCBC: 1:38
📙 High Explosive Filled Armor Piercing: 2:20
📒 APHECBC: 2:48
📙 Sub-Caliber Armor Piercing: 3:09
📒 APCR: 3:44
📒 APDS: 4:23
📒 APFSDS: 4:58
📕 Chemical Energy: 5:31
📙 High-Explosive: 6:05
📒 HE-DF: 6:25
📒 HE-VT: 6:33
📒 HE Grenade: 6:47
📒 Rocket: 7:00
📙 Anti-Emplacement: 7:26
📒 Shrapnel: 7:44
📒 HESH: 8:07
📙 High-Explosive Anti-Tank: 8:52
📒 HEAT-FS: 9:17
📒 HEAT Grenade: 9:32
📙 Guided Missiles: 9:53
📒 ATGM-VT: 10:12
📒 ATGM Tandem: 10:21
📒 ATGM-HE: 10:36
📒 SAM: 10:47
📙 Utility: 11:17
📒 Smoke: 11:22
📕 "Conclusion": 11:46
📘 Q&A With Discord Server Members: 12:00
📘 Outro: 15:05
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• Song used: Joakim Karud - Longing ( • Video )
Thank you all for 10k subscribers!

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@skDoger 4 жыл бұрын

= Check out the updated version here, it's got new shells, better visuals and fixed errors: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iKyFnJl-rb61pY0.html = Thank you for all the positive comments! A couple of things to note: -HEAT does not actually melt the copper. It just forces it through the armor. -The reason APDS is better at angles is because it has much more velocity than APCR. This way, it can go through angled armor easier. -Fins do not make a shell more aerodynamic or give it more velocity, it makes a shell more stable over long distances by stopping it from rotating. Because it's not spinning, the shell has a much lower chance of going somewhere else, therefore the shell is stabilized. Thus, shells with fins are better over distances than regular shells. (This is also why the shells with fins are called "fin-stabilized.") -Due to a recent nerf, HESH no longer performs better when it faces angled armor. -The shrapnel shell has many different names, but the reason I called it that is because in-game it is called shrapnel. The correct term would be fragmentation. -🅱️esh Thank you to all who corrected me :)

@rastas3742 4 жыл бұрын

Another correction to add, if AP projectiles don't have an explosive filler then they are AP shot, not AP shell. Inert AP projectiles are shot, APHE is shell.

@mattblankenbaker6456 4 жыл бұрын

Small rounds next?

@bassbusterx 4 жыл бұрын

why the hell did they nerf HESH.

@hazardous458 4 жыл бұрын

skDoger Actually, the copper is molten. It just doesn’t melt the armor.

@bassbusterx 4 жыл бұрын

@@hazardous458 nope, the temperature on the shell is not nearly enough to make the copper melt.

@Jason-vz4sr 3 жыл бұрын

In short, the more letters a shell has in its name, the better it is.

@theblueoist4374 3 жыл бұрын

And whenever you see on a tank heat rounds. You better strap yourself with all the heat shells you can get.

@thelegacyshow4248 3 жыл бұрын

HEAT is only 4

@theblueoist4374 3 жыл бұрын

High explosive anti tank shells you mean? The ones that comepletely destroy tanks at a good angle?

@sidsucksatplaying 3 жыл бұрын

I love my aphebcapdsfsheshheheatfs shelk

@eldritchgod4308 3 жыл бұрын

@@sidsucksatplaying Gotta love me shelks

@Secret-gn5pf 4 жыл бұрын

High budget animations

@hustejborec9000 4 жыл бұрын

The minecraft fence was bloody brilliant

@tfrog6155 3 жыл бұрын

Was it really

@Girls_und_Panzer_Brasil 3 жыл бұрын

it was simple, but explained very well!

@SomeGamer1111 3 жыл бұрын

Made me coom, and I learned something

@jinx8624 3 жыл бұрын

Simple and easy to understand

@kirflickers1806 4 жыл бұрын

EU server: "someone've put smoke there. I cannot hit him and I will not waste my rounds." Russian server: "someone've put smoke there! he's there! everyone, shoot him!"

@ReySchultz121 4 жыл бұрын

Is it safe to assume you fought in 2 fronts?, also damn son the russians actually do that.

@Cuteseals2 3 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile on the north america server: plane see smoke. Plane bomb smoke. Target Destroyed.

@tajp917 3 жыл бұрын

As a EU player I can confirm it is like that

@twentylush 3 жыл бұрын

EU: Smoke hides your position RU: Smoke is a massive target for everyone to shoot at NA: Everyone is flying CAS anyways, it doesn't matter

@gipsydangeramericasmonster9632 3 жыл бұрын

@@twentylush and tends to revenge bomb

@Snaily 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty new player here: didn't realise I had to have a PhD in this game.

@broderzzcompany 2 жыл бұрын

Just use stock apcbc or aphe round you get with every tank and you will be good most of the time.

@bencenagy5459 2 жыл бұрын

I have pretty good memory, so i'm a quick shell learner

@jambunboii4537 2 жыл бұрын

Just guess which does which and hope that it works

@ee214verilogtutorial2 2 жыл бұрын

@kuseu32 heatfs on pt kicks tanks on higher tier

@pp-wo1sd 2 жыл бұрын

@kuseu32 I recommend that you ignore fpe and go for heatfs right away . Also remember to bring a couple of aphe shells as right at the start you will be horrible at using heatfs

@MrBonzi-ez6ho 4 жыл бұрын

Jeff gets brutally murdered by dog for about 12 minutes straight: the movie: the game

@Nigel6146 4 жыл бұрын

Imagine: APCBCHEATFSDSHVCRSH shell (Armour Piercing Capped Ballistic Capped High Explosive Anti Tank Fin Stabilised Discarding Sabot High Velocity Composite Rigid Squash Head)

@nightly3293 4 жыл бұрын

Wrong order APHEATCRFSDSSHHV (Armor Piercing High Explosive Anti Tank Composite Rigid Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot Squash Head High Velocity)

@Fatuzci 4 жыл бұрын

Gaijin plz nerf APCBCHEATFSDSHVCRSH shell.

@mikinius 4 жыл бұрын

Why the fuck my car just turned invisible

@belgianfried 4 жыл бұрын

drinks bleach*

@yankee_0013 4 жыл бұрын

*152 mm*

@szelgorcs 3 жыл бұрын

War Thunder: don't use APCR. *do not* World of Tanks: *angrily spams APCR at everything*

@jlyngdoh5608 2 жыл бұрын

Bounces alot in wotb.. IDK about wot.. But in blitz.. Slight angles and it'll bounce..

@dawsonreum8096 2 жыл бұрын

@@jlyngdoh5608 Also absolutely useless if the enemy is only mildly far away. I know they lose speed faster, but in WOTB it is just ridiculous how fast they lose their penetration. Also in Blitz like many premium shells they lose damage, which makes sense considering for most round types if you want more penetration then you need to loose damage to achieve more penetration, but I heard PC doesn't do that.

@azravalencia4577 2 жыл бұрын

@@dawsonreum8096 it is, PC doesnt do that. That's why many T10 behicle with Good DPM is damn overpowered. And also note, APCR only effective against flat armor, it doesnt have much ballistic penentration.

@betelgeuse4568 2 жыл бұрын

Fucking gold spammers everywhere

@megapet777 2 жыл бұрын

haha this

@Neverskipwingday 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly this is the best explanation I've ever heard for something war thunder related. No bs. No spam. Just quality content. Super helpful. I'm new to playing war thunder and was struggling to figure out what the icons meant. Thanks.

@skDoger 3 жыл бұрын

Comments like these really motivate me! Thank you very much :)

@Neverskipwingday 3 жыл бұрын

@@skDoger thanks for responding. You seem to pay a lot of attention to your viewers.

@Shore1985 4 жыл бұрын

Qickguide: Dont use APCR. Like ever. Just dont. Never.

@phamminhthang5059 4 жыл бұрын

german quicky boi with 28/20mm gun: guess i'll die

@randomuser5443 4 жыл бұрын

I like them. Takes a bit of brain but works for me

@AHappyCub 4 жыл бұрын

I dont know about you, but i find that i'm more likely to kill a Tiger 2 from the turret front with APCR than HEAT I've at least one shot a Tiger 2 5 times from the front, 2 of which is straight up bullshit shot that somehow kill them despite poorly aimed

@trentenswett6306 4 жыл бұрын

@@AHappyCub Tiger player here both Tiger I and II, I have found at this point if any thing pens your turret or hull in a Tiger I or II you are basically dead. Very rarely have I not been one shot from a pen from the turret or hull.

@kelvinvito105 4 жыл бұрын

Cries in stock American

@roadhigher 4 жыл бұрын

Just a quick correction because almost everyone gets this wrong, but in HEAT shells the Copper lining isn't melted Instead the pressure from the explosive charge changes the Copper lining into a Superplastic, which is when the pressure causes the otherwise Solid Copper to act more like a stream of fluid, even though it is way below it's melting point and still a Solid. This is important because actual molten metal would just splatter over the armour and not achieve much, but a Superplastic will bore through the armour, since it retains it's Solid form Density. This is a very minor difference but it seems like 99% of people don't know this and just assume the Copper is melted, even though no HEAT warhead achieves temperatures or pressure anywhere near enough to melt copper.

@jakagaber 4 жыл бұрын

Many people also assume that heat rounds melt over the armour

@benfennell6842 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for telling me that I've literally never heard that and it's very epic.

@LazyLifeIFreak 4 жыл бұрын

Plastic deformation

@PorWik 4 жыл бұрын

LazyLife IFreak I’d be surprised if it was elastic

@LazyLifeIFreak 4 жыл бұрын

@@PorWik Ever seen a video of friction stir welding? Its the same mechanism. Pressure and heat forces the metal to behave as if plastic but no actual melting occurs.

@banzeyegaming2234 4 жыл бұрын

Aah, yes, the guide to, “Which Shell Gives the Most Painful Death for Crewmembers”. My favourite video.

@taxidermypolarbear1724 4 жыл бұрын

BanzEye GAMING whaaaaat they don’t diiieee they get knocked out

@banzeyegaming2234 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, they get knocked out...or rather, they’re HEAD gets knocked off/disintegrated!

@Juzevs 26 күн бұрын

The L3 crew hit directly by a 38cm HE shell from a sturmtiger went through a "significant emotional event"

@germanlad1609 3 жыл бұрын

Gaijin: APFSDS or APSH Me: *tier 1 tanker screaming*

@warthundercanblunder850 2 жыл бұрын

Apsh?

@russianyoutube Жыл бұрын

@@warthundercanblunder850 armor piercing squash head ig lmfao

@chillmint1726 Жыл бұрын

@@russianyoutube AP and SH totally cancel out each other lmfao

@lilluminati9723 4 жыл бұрын

*random heavy tank* : you cant pen me! Me, With a *hesh* shell: "Well yes but actually no"

@jamesleon457 4 жыл бұрын

*Guy behind cover:* "You can't kill me! Nobody can! War Thunder's walls can be penetrated by nothing! These walls are stronger than any armor in the game! Even your pitiful artillery will at best scratch my paint. I am a god here, you are but an interloping insect within my realm!" *Me, with a HESH shell loaded and a tiny bit of their roof armor in view:* "Well, yeah, but actually no."

@thurbine2411 4 жыл бұрын

James Leon well the strongest things are the trees. Even the leaves and tree tops of small trees cut of your wings when not even going so fast in all but the duck.

@jamesleon457 4 жыл бұрын

@@discountskeletor3326 It's been kinda shit for a while and literally does worse against angled armor since the pen mechanics change, but it still is worth loading a shell or two because roof detonations will reenact dresden upon everyone in the turret, and you'd be surprised how common I have to do it.

@baddiematty5289 4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesleon457 I think it's not very good because it doesn't actually act like it does in real life in game. Instead of actually squashing and fracturing interior armor, it's just HE with more pen. Though, seeing as how tanks from the 60s-80s had "HESH nets" to catch spalling, making the shells less effective against vehicles from that era, you can see why they balanced it like that.

@karelpgbr 3 жыл бұрын

You mean 🅱️esh

@Steve-rq7mj 4 жыл бұрын

You forgot that you can use Smoke as HE on exposed crew.

@leonhenning8370 4 жыл бұрын

Okay next time ill play toptier with smokes

@Steve-rq7mj 4 жыл бұрын

@@leonhenning8370 If you find anything with exposed crew.

@Steve-rq7mj 4 жыл бұрын

Because it only does damage to exposed crew members like the low tier flaks

@Psycho_Yoshi 4 жыл бұрын

The small amount of explosive in the smoke shell is just enough to kill some crew. It's like a bundle of m80 firecrackers exploding someone's fingers off but its fired from a cannon and it comes with a bunch of white phosphorus smoke.

@ambylotl 4 жыл бұрын

Trolling SPAAGs by surrounding them in smoke AND killing their crew- BRILLIANT!!!

@comradeivan9326 4 жыл бұрын

a short summary: APHE/APCBC: pretty good, use it whenever possible Solid AP: bootleg round, use only if you have no better alternative APCR: Why would you ever use this? APDS: Its pretty good APDSFS: its pretty amazing HE: no one knows how it works other than the dude who keeps making 20 minute HE only videos, + useless if caliber is

@2Musketieners2MLm 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao. British are pretty fun though at lower tiers. But hesh is not really useful there

@hustejborec9000 4 жыл бұрын

Can someone please explain what is so wrong with british forces? I'm a new-ish player and from the videos I was watching it seems like everyone thinks they are really bad which would be shame because they are my main rn.

@2Musketieners2MLm 4 жыл бұрын

@@hustejborec9000 they are not bad. They are just not amazing like the americans, germans and russian can be (especially at top tier). I as a matter of fact love to play with the cromwells. And the centurions are not bad at all to verse as a german main.

@FTQuake 4 жыл бұрын

Apcr is useful for when your aphe round can’t pen

@comradeivan9326 4 жыл бұрын

@@FTQuake which is almost never cuz u die if u dont pen

@farhatamnan3736 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, someone who can explain to me with simple words. Thank you kind sir

@tinchorb1340 4 жыл бұрын

I know how survive to all of shells "No armor is the best armor" Flack 88 aproves

@randomuser5443 4 жыл бұрын

Yag 10 seconds it

@thurbine2411 4 жыл бұрын

Martin Reynoso Baltore VFW

@kubasalomon 4 жыл бұрын

*laughs in large caliber HE shells*

@thurbine2411 4 жыл бұрын

Kuba Salomon yes but still the flak us is easier to kill than the very friendly wagon in many cases

@kubasalomon 4 жыл бұрын

@@thurbine2411 Yes, but 105mm HE shell kills every lightly armored thing

@rafaelgoncalvesdias7459 4 жыл бұрын

Much better than the one from warthunder

@average_peanut_fan3059 3 жыл бұрын

I A G R E E

@PHX76 3 жыл бұрын

Affirmative!

@average_peanut_fan3059 3 жыл бұрын

@@PHX76 A T T A C K T H E D P O I N T !

@average_peanut_fan3059 3 жыл бұрын

@@PHX76 Y E S

@average_peanut_fan3059 3 жыл бұрын

@@PHX76 I R E F U S E

@iseeu721 4 жыл бұрын

Forgot the starstreak missile we have on the top British spaa. Splits into 3 apfsds projectiles on proximity.

@michaeledmunds7056 Жыл бұрын

Good for stopping air dropped tanks 👍

@windhelmguard5295 Жыл бұрын

he also forgot the anti concrete shells you get on the KV-2

@Techno_Idioto Жыл бұрын

@@windhelmguard5295 Basically the older brother to HESH

@Caennuck 2 жыл бұрын

Man the amount of searching I was doing to try and find an answer to the difference between the UK Mk. 4 and Mk. 8 shell. You explained it perfectly in 2 minutes. Thanks very much!

@Lens15 4 жыл бұрын

Exam is not going to be that hard The Exam:

@karelpgbr 3 жыл бұрын

Bruhh

@iidoughnutholes3087 3 жыл бұрын

@Anessen woosh

@gipsydangeramericasmonster9632 3 жыл бұрын

@Anessen now build a time machine

@eiteiei4063 3 жыл бұрын

Is it socially acceptable to have complete confidence in aceing a test like that? Asking for a friend. N-No? Okay...

@Piglady00 3 жыл бұрын

This shit easier than my math exam

@ijnyamato643 4 жыл бұрын

As the Master Tanker said, when I first started I just looked at which shell penetrated the most armor on the picture lmao. I also used to pick the researchable shells because I thought, "Hey, if they made me research it, it has to be better than the default round." I used to die many times using APCR on light tanks.

@NarutoMagicCyclops 4 жыл бұрын

In all fairness if you could hit the engine block it's gonna be disabled, in which case you might've figured APHE would pry the next choice of shot.

@swampdonkey1567 2 жыл бұрын

I knew it had less shrapnel.....I picked cause HIGHEST PEN.....not realizing how advanced war thunder was.(I actually just learned to sucked and it explains alot)

@trevorphillips8415 2 жыл бұрын

Use it on LVT(A)(1)s at their front cause those fuckers are hard to kill with APHE unless you aim for the ammunition.

@windhelmguard5295 Жыл бұрын

anti concrete shell still seems to be the most effective round i have used thus far. idk what it is but it seems to just kill everything if you hit your first shot. sadly the KV-2 takes so god damn long to reload that you're probably not getting a second one.

@SweetLittleAki 3 жыл бұрын

Me, a world of tanks player: "3. Take it or leave it."

@ventrasel 4 жыл бұрын

5:14 Small correction. Larger projectile length means greater penetration since the projectile is destroying itself by penetrating armor. Therefore, all modern AP shells themselves are extremely long and made of the hardest alloys such as tungsten or depleted uranium. Also, the amount of post-penetration shrapnel is directly related to the thickness of the armor the shell has to overcome - the thicker a breached armor, the more shrapnel it would create. The rest is great video, very easy to grasp. Keep it up ;)

@NarutoMagicCyclops 4 жыл бұрын

"hardest alloys such as tungsten or depleted uranium." It's not really about "hardest" per se, a factor but not the greatest determining factor for penetration, it's the mass of either and depleted uranium breaks apart in a manner that helps it penetrate, the term for it is often call self sharpening but I've read enough to where it's pretty negligible or the terminology isn't accurate. Tungsten is the densest material but really expensive in comparison to depleted uranium.

@mememetal6631 2 жыл бұрын

Idk if in game the more armour overcame = more shrapnel was inplumented so far

@windhelmguard5295 Жыл бұрын

@@NarutoMagicCyclops depleted uranium shells also fill the insides with radioactive dust, which can give any surviving crew, as well as anyone trying to interact with the wreckage without a respirator, very serious cases of lung cancer.

@NarutoMagicCyclops Жыл бұрын

@@windhelmguard5295 As far as a quick search goes the health risks are controversial with no real evidence to support health risks. You can get lung cancer just from smoking cigarretes, which is common among military personnel as a stress relief.

@NarutoMagicCyclops Жыл бұрын

@@mememetal6631 Spalling is an effect of hardened metal "splintering" in a sense, creating shrapnel, the thicker the armor the more likely a non-penetration may cause spalling depending on how fragile the armor is(typically harder metal is more fragile and thus spalls more often). A properly penetrating round more ideally should shatter to cause fragmentation inside the vehicle rather than causing spalling which in itself wont cause munitions to det, fragmentation would lead to round det.

@doomdave475 4 жыл бұрын

One correction: HEAT shells don't produce molten copper, they just propell it at ridicoluos speeds. Yes, at these pressures during impact the inverse jet of copper ACTS LIKE a fluid, but the same happens when an APFSDS shell hits armour.

@skDoger 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the correction!

@biko9824 4 жыл бұрын

4:24 the APDS shell has this fancy tip, which is flatter than the pointy-tipped APCR rounds and probably has some kind of normalisation function.

@skDoger 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the explanation!

@biko9824 4 жыл бұрын

skDoger thanks :)

@GamingGrinding 5 ай бұрын

@@skDoger Can you explain the 🅱ESH shell please?

@bummers 3 жыл бұрын

Basically, the more letters there are in the shell, the more powerful. Got it.

@temrinal9956 4 жыл бұрын

your videos help me so much man, you dont get it. ive been playing for 2 months and still barely know much, but your videos legit help. i hope you keep doing these vids and i hope you get like a million subs

@skDoger 4 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

@hazardtrooper2791 4 жыл бұрын

8:38 unfortunately gaijin did oopsie whoopsie and made hesh pen less on angles

@hazardtrooper2791 4 жыл бұрын

also I used to be in the discord server but it seems to have disappeared and I can't join back. did the KGB make me disappear? (same with my friend)

@CS-nq9sq 4 жыл бұрын

I'm kinda confused with hesh in game, let's say the hesh had 150mm of penetration and hit a tank with 250mm of armour. Would the explosion caused by the hesh send shrapnel into the tank by breaking it's Armour or in war thunder does it have to full penetrate the 250mm plate??

@hazardtrooper2791 4 жыл бұрын

@@CS-nq9sq the explosive wouldn't be enough to vibrate the thick metal plate enough to cause it to rupture. I think, don't quote me on that

@CS-nq9sq 4 жыл бұрын

@@hazardtrooper2791 ahh, thanks for the help.

@Bialy_1 4 жыл бұрын

@@CS-nq9sq HESH is not about penetration, it is producing shockwave in the steel plate and when this shockwave is at the other side of the plate it is starting to rip off small parts of it and they are flying with great speed into crew, ammo and electronics. That is one of the reasons why modern tanks have multiple layers of armor(HESH works nice only on old fashion armor that is made with single continuous layer of metal). HEAT is all about penetration and contrary what is in the game you have jet that is doing damage just like it is implemented in game and something like 30% of force of the explosion outside of the tank is transfered into that small hole and presure wave is killing the crew and igniting the ammo... Generaly in case of HESH thicker armor = less damage inside but in game it is more like 0-1 situation, you were able to "penetrate" or not.

@SirDucc 4 жыл бұрын

Dont forget the HEFS rounds found in some russian tanks, such as t80s and t64s

@manofcultura 3 жыл бұрын

One thing you need to add to the APFSDS round is they are usually fired from smoothbore guns. The fact it’s not rifled makes that round travel faster. Because the round itself isn’t spun through rifling the fins are angled slightly to create spin thus stabilizing the round in flight and making sure it flies straight.

@cursedcliff7562 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for remaking this video,the HEAT explanation in the last version was horrible

@skDoger 4 жыл бұрын

Yep, last time I did 0 research and made stuff up. I was just trying to release part 2 as quickly as possible so that people would stop complaining about it 😂

@radenprasetyo8234 4 жыл бұрын

7:44 yes fuccin finally!!! Shrapnel shell

@jakobc.2558 4 жыл бұрын

The most powerfull round in all of war thunder. Legends say that no player dares to use it because the destruction would crash the servers. It kills tanks so hard that they explode in the hangar.

@naosei2.086 4 жыл бұрын

@@jakobc.2558 *T-28E approves*

@meatshield7206 4 жыл бұрын

Não Sei 2.0 T-26-4 approves

@blob643 4 жыл бұрын

@@meatshield7206 T34 approves

@sheeplord4976 4 жыл бұрын

@@jakobc.2558 I actually found use for it with my kv-1E. It had a really light fuse and exploded after penetrating, so I could use it to slaughter stuff with gun shields like the flak 88.

@TheDutchisGaming Жыл бұрын

Love how this video about a game explains better how different shells work then a video about the same subject but about real life usage.

@thickboi7570 11 ай бұрын

This was a extremely useful video for me when I started a few years ago, it let me have a good understanding behind each shell and what it actually does and what it’s good for which helped me a lot, thank you!

@style6734 4 жыл бұрын

Hey, you forgot the APHEFSDSHEATHECBC shell!

@jakobc.2558 4 жыл бұрын

Wouldnt that be APHEATCBCFSDS-VT?

@style6734 4 жыл бұрын

@@jakobc.2558 More the merrier!

@hazardous458 4 жыл бұрын

STYLE I prefer besh

@viet_cong_momiji2324 4 жыл бұрын

🅱️ E S H is better

@gkgameplaycz 4 жыл бұрын

that is a nuke

@nicolaspeigne1429 4 жыл бұрын

Since we have more night battles now, it would be nice to have illuminations rounds implemented somehow.

@thurbine2411 4 жыл бұрын

Nicolas Peigné well there are almost no night battles below 9.0

@georgebonanza9487 3 жыл бұрын

They should also make the normal headlights and night vision spotlights work.

@Sky_EggYT Жыл бұрын

Not anymore, now they are not able to be seen : )

@DJCiec 4 жыл бұрын

Very useful vid. Dude. I play the game for years, and I was still wondering about few ammo types. o7

@skDoger 4 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

@scarecrow1848 3 жыл бұрын

HOLY SH*T IT JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER, you an AMAZING KZfaqR

@skDoger 3 жыл бұрын

@threnn9509 4 жыл бұрын

HESH and HEAT are totally wrong in the game. When a HEAT grenade penetrates a target everything inside should be dead because of the hot gas and the rapid change of the pressure inside the tank.

@doomdave475 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, an explosion on the outside with a hole leading to the inside isn't healthy for you xD

@fesa_performance9617 4 жыл бұрын

Even at APFSDS everybody would die. Watch a video of a 120mm APFSDS-T DM33 vs a leopard 1. The pressure was so high, that the closed commander hatch blast open

@thurbine2411 4 жыл бұрын

Threnn the heat also just works as a laser but spaced armor worsens its penetration when it should disperse the heat stream as well

@DerDop 4 жыл бұрын

i used hesh yesterday in sim ( insanely hard to hit the target) after penetrating the turret of a t 54 from the sides, it barely scratched 2 crewmembers.

@thurbine2411 3 жыл бұрын

Anessen i know. If you read what I wrote I said that heat in game is acting like it is a laser not irl

@zekkoid 4 жыл бұрын

What about kv-2 and anti-concrete shells? 🤔

@stroganoffbob7627 4 жыл бұрын

Its basically APHE but with extra boom to destroy bunkers thats what the kv-2 was made for anyway

@panther7584 4 жыл бұрын

Isn't HESH basically made for concrete bunkers? I learnt the British used that, plus few American tankers tested it too during WWII

@BoomCat99 4 жыл бұрын

@@panther7584 The KV2 was from 1939 so those probably didn't exist yet.

@edi9892 4 жыл бұрын

@@panther7584 AFAIK, HESH was developed at the end of WWII just like HEAT it struggled with reliable fuses. The fuse has to be sensitive enough to detonate before the shell shatters on impact, but shouldn´t get triggered due to the tremendous forces involved from shooting it out of the barrel, nor should it get destroyed in the same process... That´s why you need very sturdy electronics, just like with VT. The advantage of HESH over HE is AFAIK that you can simply pack a little more explosive and that it minimizes the distance to the target, whereas HE can explode a bit further away or bounce off. The thicker shell produces shrapnell but reduces the explosive impact.

@cenouraroxa9184 4 жыл бұрын

It's just a APHE with other name

@Regimentz. 2 жыл бұрын

For this much quality war Thunder content.. You should have way way way more subscribers. You put hard work into these videos and we appreciate and respect it. Keep it up!

@skDoger 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@xiangrongchua9434 2 жыл бұрын

thanks alot, im a new joiner and i really glad i found ur channel. You earn my respect

@tristanstephens2290 4 жыл бұрын

9:31so basically it's a syringe

@thatsnomoon4221 4 жыл бұрын

APDS is technically a small APCBC round fired really fast, APFSDS has the same effect, the pentrator is encased with softer metal, that due to huge velocity has a high normalisation effect, basically APDS inside APFSDS

@acywei 4 жыл бұрын

What? HAAAAAAaaaaa? The penetrator isn't encased in anything, it has a sabot which is used to make the very thin tungsten (super hard) penetrator fit into a large caliber gun. The sabot is discarded pretty much as soon as it the penetrator leaves the barrel thus the Armor Penetrating(or) Discarding Sabot. And APCBC (not APBCB dafuq is that?) is exactly as described in the video. It is a full caliber shell (fits perfectly in the barrel) that just happens a couple of fancy caps/tips attached to the front of the penetrator. Those 2 shells couldn't operate on more different ballistic principles as far as standard kinetic ammunition goes.

@aleky98 4 жыл бұрын

@@acywei find a picture of a fin sabot cut along the midline and you'll see that the penetrator rod is indeed encased in a bit of softer material l, together they make the dart, which is then located in the sabot

@thatsnomoon4221 4 жыл бұрын

@@acywei not quite, find any video or picture of a dart and you'll see that the actual penetrator of the APFSDS is encased by the longer dart

@colinwalker4824 Жыл бұрын

This is an amazingly useful guide. The animations help so much. I owe so much to this guy for making this

@maral2014 Жыл бұрын

8:15 the material in HESH tip is an inert material so that the HE filler in the shell itself does not detonate on impact. It is like a buffer of sorts. The base fuze detonates the filler once the HESH shell distributes its explosives across the plate.

@awful_cat4499 4 жыл бұрын

9:10 can we get an f in the chat for the crew member

@skDoger 4 жыл бұрын

F for Jeff :(

@raykhalil2883 4 жыл бұрын

thx man the are rlly useful these tips are going to change my gaming tactiques

@paulvizcayno1295 Жыл бұрын

The effort in this video💯 And comprehensible💯 Now I understand shell mechanics Thanks bro this'll help so much💯💯💯

@gerardomiano6422 2 жыл бұрын

I have whatched this video 4 times now. I learn something new every time.

@everlyn.martins 4 жыл бұрын

Best video I've ever seen on this subject! Very nice!!!

@skDoger 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@MrCiko5 3 жыл бұрын

me who didnt play war thunder: i like your funny words magic man

@pharohsensei8679 3 жыл бұрын

Man thank you for this information now i can understand some kinds of ammunition in the game i was so lost when i started 1 week ago thank you

@birkmadsen7141 3 жыл бұрын

war thunder saw dis video and decided to make it inot the game, nicely done man :)

@AlexVanChezlaw 4 жыл бұрын

The HE round on high tier russian tanka have some kind of fins, sometimes you can see it on the scope after firing, for a split second it leaves the barrel

@samuelbrown3854 2 жыл бұрын

Just a point, the cap on AP doesn't actually cause the shell to normalise in the hammer you describe. The soft cap actually absorbs some of the impact, decreasing the deceleration forces experienced by high velocity shells, thus reducing their tendency to shatter on impact to harsh angles. It's a bit counterintuitive but slowing down the shell actually improves it's armour penetration against armour.

@thespartanamongus1121 3 жыл бұрын

This helped me out SO MUCH, thanks!

@GrimaceTheMask 2 жыл бұрын

This video was very helpful, thank you so much!

@JO-ch3el 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! They really should have made the icons for the different ammo types more distinct from each other like you did in your video and not just display a shell with different colour bands penetrating armor in the same way.

@Mr.MaChInIsTdUdE 4 жыл бұрын

good vid and still find it very helpful

@darmanskirata4167 4 жыл бұрын

9:20 HEATFS also has more penetration, because the projectile does not have to rotate for stabilization . The stream of molten metal doesn't lose energy by spinning anymore

@Hygix_ 3 жыл бұрын

Thx, this is very straight forward class, I try to use this this information carefully

@billyjoel9313 3 жыл бұрын

10/10 editing and vfx

@Judamubo 3 жыл бұрын

Well, the new update will show us how the shells work

@skwidthecrayfsh34 3 жыл бұрын

4:50 the sharper angle on the sub calibration with sabot increases chance of deflection because it effectively increases the angle of the armour

@infantryS04 3 жыл бұрын

thx man you made it sound so easier to understand

@alientitimilk9073 4 жыл бұрын

The long awaited finisher in the trilogy

@etlef4724 3 жыл бұрын

This Fuel guy sounds like a sympathetic fellow. I hope that he isn't a massive simp or from California

@plebao51 3 жыл бұрын

this is so god damn helpful, thanks mate. cheers

@ako6760 2 жыл бұрын

This is by far the most informative video on war thunder ive seen

@usolame3161 4 жыл бұрын

7:51 not once it gets in a tank IF it gets in a tank

@qwertas2285 3 жыл бұрын

Спасибо переводчику, кста видос полезен для новичков "Тундры".

@yajamanvamsikrishna509 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude. Awesome vid btw.. keep up the good work man .

@skDoger 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@shronkler1994 4 жыл бұрын

Building knowledge on this game for when I move from WOT to WT

@OtterTreySSArmy 3 жыл бұрын

Hope to see you soon! We're about to get the F-14!

@matiaslangon6799 4 жыл бұрын

I'm just starting war thunder and your videos are really helpful, could you do a video on ship crew skills?

@skDoger 4 жыл бұрын

Glad I could be of use! I'm planning on making a crew skills guide on all vehicle types, and that includes shipa too. I can't give en exact date, but it will come out one day!

@matiaslangon6799 4 жыл бұрын

@@skDoger Glad to hear that! Your videos are the best ones I've seen on the subject, as you take the time to really explain skills and ammo one by one. Thank you for the help!

@temlan 4 жыл бұрын

It seems you forgot aphefsdsheathecbc and B E S H

@thurbine2411 4 жыл бұрын

Ola Kåberg you mean the aphefsdsheathecbcGM

@alpacaofthemountain8760 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, very helpful!

@angelicdragon9823 3 ай бұрын

Glad to know what the different APC rounds are was always wondering

@droute4947 3 жыл бұрын

4:52 Лучше пробивает из-за того, что нету поддона. Поддон просто мешает сердечнику при контакте, скользя по броне. Поэтому, без поддона сердечник без скольжения на большей скорости пробивает броню, а не скользит

@lukmaroli2730 3 жыл бұрын

If u have problem to pen tiger I or II without APCR just get IS-2 or some other soviet tank in mid-tier, heavy tanks have only aphe with penetration above 200mm, more than 100g of explosive mass, great armor, mobility. Oh and IS-2 is at 5.7 and jumbo is at 5.3 so if u have problem with it get IS-2 :)

@skDoger 3 жыл бұрын

Good advice!

@Spyronite913 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing work, very clear, thank you!

@skDoger 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@jamesramirez523 Жыл бұрын

Very informative! Thanks man

@jasonducci1896 3 жыл бұрын

This is more interesting than my physics class

@Ehrathorn 4 жыл бұрын

HESH used to do well against angled armor, but now I see it like every other round on the tooltips. Less pen with the higher angle. Did something change or is that some bug in the tooltip?

@BigBex 4 жыл бұрын

It changed

@bobboo101 2 жыл бұрын

They nerfed it :((

@derkellner152 Жыл бұрын

@@BigBex it didnt change wtf

@derkellner152 Жыл бұрын

@@bobboo101 it didnt change wtf

@BigBex Жыл бұрын

@@derkellner152 did you just reply to a 2 years old comment?

@Crazy4monkey117 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for understanding your knowledge on cannon round

@slowingsphere5151 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks this is actually useful 👍

@Paul91415 4 жыл бұрын

I don't know where you people get this from, but HEAT does NOT creat a molten copper penetrator! The detonation isn't even hot enough to melt copper. The detonation just forms the copper cone to a dart which get's accelerated to like 8000 meters per second, where APFSDS Sabot travel at like 1800 or so. A physics law states, when a highly accelerated solid body hits another solid body, the one who gets hit behaves like a liquid. And I think this is where the misunderstanding comes from...

@skDoger 4 жыл бұрын

My bad, thank you for the correction.

@bagelmaster2498 4 жыл бұрын

There is also armor piercing rockets from planes.

@ReloadingMoreAD1966 2 жыл бұрын

Entertaining and very, very informative. Well done sir.

@mitkoshredder 4 жыл бұрын

This was amazing, thank you.

@skDoger 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@royhsieh4307 3 жыл бұрын

ancient: arrows centuries ago: rounds now: darts always: pay to win

@patriot4048 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, not trying to be a dick but a little correction, you said fins help over long distance which is kinda wrong because the fins are there simply to stabilize the projectile since the projectile is so long it cannot be stabilized by using rifling, so like the fletchings on an arrow, the fins help to stabilize the long rod penetrator.

@skDoger 4 жыл бұрын

I wanted to make it simple for beginners to understand, but you are very correct. What I was trying to say was that the fins make the shell's path more predictable, therefore you can use it over long distances without having to worry about it going somewhere other than where you aim.

@patriot4048 4 жыл бұрын

Oh ok, thanks for clearification o7

@doomdave475 4 жыл бұрын

Thatho 50 not just the lenght, rifled barrels would have to be changed frequently because of wear, and so it is compatible with HEAT since a spin would make the jet thicker (because of centrifugal forces) thus a lot less penetrative (this why non-FS HEAT is rather bad)

@thurbine2411 4 жыл бұрын

DOOM DAVE except some post war heat wich is stabilized by spinning but I think the copper stream is spun the other way to neutralize it so as much Pen as an heat-fs shell. Like the one the amx 30 uses and also some Swedish tanks I think

@doomdave475 4 жыл бұрын

Hilding Thurdin I'm trying not to be skeptical, but may I ask how exacly is the jet spun the other way?