I would like to recommend 'Where the Water Tastes Like Wine'.

I'll never forgive Ubi for axing The Crew

oink oink Mandy

Would you feel better with some BBQ? Some Brisket? Pulled Chicken? or perhaps you'd like some....

Just FYI to everyone - this effort is being done by Accursed Farms' Ross Scott. He is the creator and voice artist for the Freeman's mind series, runs a show called Ross's Game dungeon (if you like Mandy's channel i can almost garuntee you'll like it) and is fighting to give us consumers and game-enjoyers the right to play our games after the publisher arbitrarily decides to cut support for it. I HIGHLY recommend you all go check out his latest video, and the entire channel, Accursed Farms. I don't think you'll be disappointed!

I never thought of this. Everything really is a pig reference.

Haha, you're right

He truly saved himself by pulling his pork.

Mandy vids have some great fucking comments haha

Ozzy, squeeze my hog!

Yeah, that's pretty wild. The life we are all living RIGHT now and the world we live in is so horrifying to a person of the past that they decide it would be better to just blow up the planet than let that happen. I honestly feel a lot of trepidation for the future. It seems the world is gearing up for WW3, Germany says that Russia will attack NATO in the next 5 years and their army will be twice its current size in 2 years European countries bordering Russia are bringing back conscription. The US keeps trying to make it so they can draft women. China seems determined to eventually attack Taiwan, which the US says they will use nukes to defend. Global warming has already gone past the point of no return it is no longer possible to avoid the worst events. In 20 years the equator will shift southward making it impossible to farm in the current equator which is were 90% of the worlds food is grown. Anywhere higher than Germany on the equator will become unlivable arctic wastelands. My sister shared a theory to me about why Russia is attacking the Ukraine is actually because global warming will make Russia nigh unlivable and Ukraine is further south and is also where a pretty hefty chunk of the worlds grain is grown. Russia is fleeing the coming climate apocalypse by invading their southern neighbors. TLDR we are all so fucked

the future is lovecraftian in and of itself

As cliche as it is at this point, "You may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension."

@@collinmclaren6608no it’s not These horrors are entirely within our comprehension. That’s much of the point

Sometimes I wonder if the game is trying to call the players pigs indirectly too.

@@MandaloreGaming I guess the machine for pigs... is the phones we use

My condolences that you had to stare at your face that long. These are truly troubling times.

The machine for pigs was the friends we made along the way@kezyka6775

Same 5 hours left on da shift

Pffffffff, what? That's practically a villain archetype at this point

Probably the only thing I liked about this game. I'm done with walking simulators. It's hard to have fun when a game has basically no mechanics to speak of. Or puzzles.

I loved the idea, but was disappointed by how little we actually got to see of the titular machine. Early concept arts had these blood soaked processing lines with torsos on meat hooks and whatnot, but in the game you mostly just see drab corridors and pipes. (When you see anything at all that is, since it's so dark all the time.) You rarely feel in danger, even though you are allegedly crawling through the guts of a machine made for turning you into sausage. And where's all the meat?

Pre-traumatic stress disorder

I know I'm going to catch some hate from the sub community but I really appreciate the dubs here, they casted the perfect voice actor ;)

>NANII?!!

I've used this sentence to Troll Telemarketers before! Other classics: City Morgue ' You stab'em, we slab'em' Or CITY WOK. YOU WAN CITY CHICKEN?

@@PyovaliListed as pewdiepee in the CCs.

@@Claymann71 I do "This is Frank's BBQ. We'll pull your pork!" Nobody wants their pork tugged. :(

Most problems turn into bacon with appropriate processing, yes

As a game it's basically a walking sim, and the story doesn't really make sense when you look at it too closely, but to be fair, thematically it stuck with me in a way other Amnesia games didn't. The ending is haunting, poetic, and resonates deeply. The writing of the closing monologues is some of the tightest I've seen, and still gives me goosebumps when I find myself thinking back on them. It lingered with me for a long time. It's a shame those moments are little more than bright sparks in an otherwise quite needlessly dull and drab and perplexing experience.

"If I were to put you into a meat grinder..."

As a game it's basically a walking sim, and the story doesn't really make sense when you look at it too closely, but to be fair, thematically it stuck with me in a way other Amnesia games didn't. The ending is haunting, poetic, and resonates deeply. The writing of the closing monologues is some of the tightest I've seen, and still gives me goosebumps when I find myself thinking back on them. It lingered with me for a long time. It's a shame those moments are little more than bright sparks in an otherwise quite needlessly dull and drab and perplexing experience.

someone took a lot of drugs and wrote down "people are just pigs dude" then came back later and made a game out of it none of it is thought through and the basic premise is never expanded upon so I can only imagine that's what happened Or they are just incompetent writers

​@@Arkangel630 please share with us your portfolio of award winning game development

@@Arkangel630 Congratulations, you missed the whole story and theme. Within it is the manic obsessions with realizing systems exploit people for nothing but the benefit of the machine itself. Capitalism, industrialism, class structure, extractionism, imperialism, colonialism, organized religion, and so on. Systems that benefit a very few, but ultimately horrors that are carried out not because it'll centralize power more to those specific people, but because they are necessary for the system itself to survive. The driving force behind these atrocities isn't limitless greed, it's survival. It's not driven by any human at the top, it is purely mechanical by the system itself. Then upon realizing that, humans will build new systems to usurp the old ones they see as corrupt, but merely end up recreating similar systems because certain means have to justify its ends, and because exploitation and its mechanisms is all these humans have known, it's what they know how to recreate. It's a criticism of cultural revolutionary ideas that instead of abandoning systems altogethether, merely turns the system on its head to target the new perceived threat. Even a system like that aimed at "the rich" or "the church", ultimately sees the same previously poor and downtrodden sacrificed in the process, because it's ultimately anger aimed at the past and its cruelties, not then hope for a better future. That last part is just the justification. It's very good framing to have this from the perspective of an industrial capitalist who is the kind of person who has the means to create new systems, and thus is the one to enforce his reality onto society as a whole, regardless of how flawed and emotionally driven it truly is. He is already "the elite" that he claims to be against, but also sees himself as better equipped to fix the world than anyone else who doesn't have his(inherited) means, and just like the people he claims to be against, will use the poor as fuel for his own personal revolution, and thus participates in the same dehumanization that he critiques other institutions for. The story and theming is excellent, and what we should be mentioning when talking about why writing in video games is important, but like mandalore pointed out, it's still quite flawed in executing these themes properly, sometimes being too blunt or forceful with its metaphors, so my interpretation of its writing is more what I would like to imagine the game is trying to examine, not so much what it actually does or how well it does it. There's good writing attached, but it's quite telling that this good writing is only really apparent from actual plain text, so it's not really translated into the video game medium.

I've never seen a studio more aggressively against the idea of making a _videogame_ than Chinese Room.

@Accursed_Farms I know it can't be easy, but you're doing an outstanding job, good sir!

Ayo

I cant do much on the front but I sent your video and website link to every group i know

Yep! I figured putting it in a regular video would be the best way to get more eyes on it. We can email again if you need anything else from me.

Thank you for everything you do, Ross!

Superb, encore

First they called the rich pigs, and I agreed because I am not rich man. Then they called politicians pigs, and I agreed because I am not a politician. Then they called the capitalists pigs, and I agreed because I am not a capitalist. Then they called me a pig. Oink oink

I read this in the exact same cadence as Half-Life: Full Life Consequences, which I hope was the intention.

@@MrEGTFIts a reference to the ending of DOOM: Repercussions of Evil

@@macgeorge8229 Ahh, man, that's the one! I had completely blanked that from my memory but re-reading it now it's a blast from the dial-up past.

he's also the dude who voiced the funny green alien senator from Phantom Menace, which is a really funny juxtaposition in my mind

TOBY LONGWORTH'S LEGENDARY VOICE MENTIONED

@@michaelmiller7928 While we’re at it, I must shout out my personal favorite narrator, and one that is severely underrated, David Timson. His ability to portray quiet desperation, fear, confusion, despair, and horror in his voice is second to none. The quiet whispers send chills down my spine every time. Fulgrim, Legion, Angel Exterminatus, they’re all fantastic. (And he’s my personal head canon voice for Fulgrim.)

Describes a good chunk of internet communists

@@PowerKZfaqrViewer I was half thinking about that and half thinking about 4chan fascists/neo nazis/incels tbh

I don't see leftists calling for violent revolution often. I see conservatives calling for violence every single literal day.

@@amovy031it’s describes anyone who’s politics are completely internet based.

@@Jimbo55151 facts

We smoking straight DUNG BEETLE 🪲

Smoked a new pig, his meat came right off the bone

I don't give a shit if I go blind, I don't need to see the pig mask anyway

In and out of the machine, straight fundamentals. No piggy business.

What is this? a Machine for pigs?

Briggs would conquer the bunker and become the king of bunker

Halligan is a walking horror story. He would have found ways to make what the antagonists did in each game look like a joke with little to no effort on his part.

@@tomtheconqerurHalligan's solution to stopping Alexander would have been to somehow impersonate him and ruin his reputation with his lover / wife so badly she'd leave him so he doesn't have any reason to return home anymore

Halligan would chase the Pig Monsters for a piece of bacon, while Briggs will fix the machine and start the pig revolution.

​@@baransevim3969Briggs is like King from One Punch Man, he's getting the credit that should be going to Saitama. If you play through the Limbo of the Lost, you realize that the person who calls the shots and clears most of the puzzles is actually you, there are times where he's insane logic actually works (trapping the Soul Taker), but most of the thinking and doing is actually done by you, including the part that involves saving him in the last level. He just gets the credit because he's the talking head.

Go home 😠

As a Brazilian, i really wish they would give the rest of South America a chance to be the jungle where the cosmic horror is sleeping.

@@terrymortal5517 im home actually

@@jmarinotripp240 good stay in Mexico.

​@@terrymortal5517 regard.

First thing I thought when the name was mentioned. I was like hang on are we not gonna acknowledge how outrageously eye-roll inducing that is? Vidya game writing y'all.

Right in line with Hugh Mungus. And my own username, ffs.

I do not understand, can anyone explain?

Non native english speaker here, is Oswald Mandus a pun ? Or is it just a ridiculously old-timey name ? [edit] thank you all ! So yeah that name has the subtlety of a cinderblock.

@@francisaustere1879 Oswald Mandus > Ozzy Mandus > Ozymandias

Puzzlingly obvious oversight really

I think it's more of Oswald's own horror, machine (or eldritch influence) just coaxed him into making it real. Judging by the fact that machine itself eats people and it turned Oswald's reason inside out (to save people you must kill at least 90% of them... What?) It probably has no qualms about human suffering.

Now that's an idea. Eldritch beings looking at us and going mad.

Which I think is a bit odd, because absolutely, things like wwi or even ii weren’t nearly as proportionally devastating as previous centuries. They are just visually more bombastic because of the scale of the entire system was larger with planes and machinegubs and stuff. A war between two tribes will often kill and cause more people to suffer proportionally then ww1 would. the difference between 200/1000 and 1million/10million. Then not also focus on universal education or the rise of penicillin. If you focus on numbers instead of relativity, you can make anything seem any way. But I guess its a dramatic setup anyways. I just wish more peices of media tried to engage with the concept of relativity when talking about more abstract concepts like progress.

@@InternetHydra Honestly, I've had something similar brewing for the setting I've been working on. In this setting, massive terraforming machines called Titans were conditioned to enjoy cultivating worlds into being suitable for Earthly life, with a desire to see intelligent life flourish in their gardens, enabling their creators to expand across a greening galaxy. However, the Titans were hijacked by a nefarious force that stood in opposition to the values of the Titans' creators, forcing the Titans to watch on in horror as their bodies committed atrocities against their creators. Many shut down their sensory systems, choosing instead to wallow in the memories of better times, while others went mad before they could take that blissful plunge into eternal dreaming. The force that hijacked the Titans was eventually destroyed, cast down by a coalition of peoples who would later be known as the Elder Races, but the damage was done. Practically all Titans born before the hijacking were traumatized to varying degrees; some just wanted to return to what they enjoyed, while others flew directly into the nearest stars, resolved to escape the horrid memories that they could never be rid of. And then there were those who could no longer trust anything that could potentially violate them, as the hijackers once did. In many cases, this mistrust manifested as a grim wariness of any civilization that lived in their gardens, but there were many Titans who had also lost their empathy for sentients altogether, willing to commit genocide if they suspected civilizations of developing technology that would let them assert control over the Titans. In a tragic twist of irony, the hostility of certain Titans provided a grim impetus for societies to pursue such avenues of research, for even the mightiest of interstellar empires could not combat the Titans conventionally. But despite everything that had happened, there were Titans who could not abide the thought of permitting genocide, even with the dread of another hijacking present in their darkest thoughts, and thus began the War in Heaven. Those Titans who still cherished sapients were driven to combat their mad siblings and cousins, turning the galaxy into a dark forest gripped by war. Space was no longer safe to traverse as this war raged across the millennia, and the Elder Races were forced to fall back on the narrow Backroads of old, making risky journeys between dimensions in order to travel from world to world. Despite clinging on as best they could, the empires of the Elder Races fell into decline as reality became more and more hostile, as beings that once cultivated bountiful gardens now battled over the fate of intelligent life itself, all while haunted by the memory of being prisoners in their own possessed bodies.

​​@@InternetHydra I could swear there's an story out there that is about that: an immortal being from outside reality who, by its own nature, does not know death and even lacks the concept of "stopping to exist". Hence, when it sees how humans do not question their fate to die, and are perfectly willing to kill other living beings or other members of their own kind, it is horrified. Again, I could swear there's a story like that, but I can't remember the name or anything beyond what I said.

It is one of the quotes of all time.

eyy dreadanon

Yooooo dreadanon! Love your vids

@@alejandrorivas4585 AND I LOVE YOU RANDOM CITIZEN

Thank you for repeating word for word what's already being said in the video. Truly the comment of all time.

The most evil thing: In the Demo of TDD, it is actually an illusion.

Removing bad features from old games is peak modding, really.

Bless modder who make games more playable and weird

I was kinda surprised he didn't mention any kind of modding to see if it helped with the visuals. Yeah, I know its kind of a cop-out, because it's obviously working as the devs intended, but I might've been nice for him to try out that Mod on Nexus to see if it helped. I kinda wish I'd know about it now.

​@bilalsadiq1450 there's not a lot of mods to fix the game as far as I'm aware.

Mandalore covered at least four other games where mods fix em. There's likely hundreds of games that get fixed up by a dedicated player base. ​@@peppermillers8361

That's why the mc was holding his peccary when he decided to undo it all.

ah that makes sense.

Perfect casting.

Hey, man, sometimes it's what you need to get going in the morning.

What a second of post-nut clarity does to a MF.

Appropriate given his fondness for pigs

And then that subtle pause on “he…came to his senses”

i mean, it wasn’t redemption in his case (at all) (at allllllllllllllll), but Frank Cotton’s origins ARE at the very least post nut clarity lmao

That's not necessarily a bad thing--there are a lot of great games that started out as mods.

Team Fortress 2, Counter Strike, GMod, Rocket League, Killing Floor, Rising Storm, DayZ, etc all started as/trace lineage to mods as well. It CAN work out in the hands of skilled people with a unified vision.

​​@@RubyRoksDayZ? **canned laughter**

The Chinese Room wanted to tell a story, but they didn't want to write a book, and they couldn't make a movie, so they released a videogame.

@@Intestine_Ballin-ism DayZ's problem was there was too many different versions of mods which split the community who have their own version of DayZ.

"Too many Cute Boys and I'm Starting to get an erection!" - N. Mullen of *Gay Country* 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸 🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇

Side note: Are food analogies bad? I've heard someone say so years ago, but I have little context.

He's from /v/ and /v/ hates food analogies more than anything.

In his Warhammer 40K Fire Warrior review he makes a visual analogy of walking through vents sounding like a crinkling crisp packet

Oh no we have reached DSPGaming comparison levels now. Lmao.

⁠@@TheAsylumCatthey are usually the first and most simple ones and I’m pretty sure it’s what teachers use to teach children about analogies. A bit like comparing everything to sex I suppose. IF I WERE TO USE A FOOD ANALOGY: It’s a bit like processed food. Simple, cheap and no nutrition.

Oi you goota loicense to be afred?

Especially if you're British. Or Jewsh. Or not from a certain peninsula

Look up footage of London from the 60s. It wasn’t horrific back then. I wonder what -demographically- changed.

@@JoshuaJacobs83 First they came for the pigs and I did not squeal because I am not a pig

@@jelqsensei No one helping me or my kin out. Why should I help them when I'm under attack? London is getting what it deserves. They didn't welcome in the Trojan Horse. They welcomed the Trojans and claimed the gift would come later.

I loved that game when I was a kid. For a while I thought it was some obscure, forgotten game, I'm glad it's actually remembered by many

This is what pol was trying to tell us all along.

The prose is kinda purple and flowery but it gets the point.

Norm Macdonald stood amidst the blood and bones, too.

11/10 on the scale of pretentious edginess, maybe

The music entirely carries the scene. Because once you remove the music, your brain will 100% start to actually listen to the dialogue as a whole and contextually associate "who is saying this and why"? and you realize "oh its pointless and just a schizo creator self insert post WW1 commie fail rant re-phrasing".

Was looking for this comment. My nibba.

It would of the overdramatic music didn't threaten to overpower the scene. Chinese Room really haven't heard of the word "restraint".

@@PANCAKEMINEZZyou couldn’t be more wrong. Jessica Curry’s legendary composition is one of the best accompaniments to the already fantastic final monologue. You have no clue what you’re talking about. AMFP’s flaws are almost all development and design based; The Chinese Room’s poor influence ends at that. You just have unimaginably shit taste I’m sorry dude

It's the only part of the game I remember whenever it comes up, it's really damn good.

The music downed out the words at points, so I couldn't hear everything he said. And there's no audio options...

I was so confused for a sec. I thought i was watching manlybadasshero for a sec.

Been playing Yakuza you think?

​@@heartysquidthere might be a possibility because hes got a friend who is a big fan of that game series.

Betting he was watching Ghost Stories in the ADV dub in his free time.

Made me think of Manly

"Glowpiggers" 😂

The pope can't even build his own factory.

MachineOS

That's what I actually thought, just random Aztec-related words or something

Truly, we are A Machine for Pigs

I am Piggymandias, A Machine for Pigs, hark on my oinks ye mighty, and despair

@@averageeclairenjoyer3010 The world is a machine for pigs....and still is.

Yeah, Paradox sucks. Also hey Charlatan, big fan of your videos, thanks to you I have several games I know I can't play out of fear of never seeing the sun again XD

Wait, what? Chinese Room is now making VTMB2? Damn, I knew it was in development hell but this is too much. It's so joever.

They also have that game “Still Wakes the Deep” coming out this year. The premise is great. I don’t really know why but setting a horror game on an oil rig is very unsettling to me. I swear I have nightmares of floating at sea and just seeing a deep sea oil rig in the distance.

​@@VinylMorpheusthat game looks cool but is probably just another walking simulator

I feel only fear.

was I the only one annoyed by it he just seems so up himself

A shatter of glass; a round of applause; a sixteen-year-old mother of three vomiting in an open sewer, bairns looking on, chewing on potato cakes. I ain’t never going back… not never.

@@GM_Head My aunt lives in Scotland, she says it's quite nice

​​​@@okmujnyhbDepends on where you are, places like Edinburgh and Glasgow are pretty equitable to any other modern European city, if on the smaller side. There are some shitty small towns but it's still just shit by the standards of a developed country. When you get further up north, especially the Highlands, it gets more sparse population wise but it's a lovely landscape. Very green, watery country. The weather's a bastard though, rains a lot and freezing in the winter. Overall quite happy to live here, but as we're still stuck in the UK and the current British government can't even wipe its arse without doing something awful I'm considering moving to Denmark or something, but who knows we'll see how things go.

@@Bruhx10 I was referencing the bit in Garth Marenghi's Darkplace, you're supposed to say "Well, she's wrong!'

This tbh, I forgot this game existed and it brought back memories

Isn't S.W.I.N.E esencialy prototype for codename Panzers ? Also, didn't that game get a HD remaster in like last year ?

@@ComissarYarrick both were made on the same engine. also, why does codename panzers need a remaster when the game is "get the biggest panzers you can find and right-click on the objective"

@@pnutz_2 Idk, I quite liked Codename Panzers, both phase 1&2. Tho cold war is sitting in my backlog for more than 4 years at this point 😅

I mean... He was wrong on that.

The followup spoken by Mandus afterward ("The New Century Dawns") is also excellent.

It's one of the few games I can think of where I would recommend the whole game if just for the last five minutes. The final speech and accompanying soundtrack was really beautifully delivered. Maybe one of my favorite monologues in fiction.

genuine movie quality, sucks that it has a shitty game part attached to it

The writers, composer, and the voice actors gave 110% and boy that can carry a lot

@@DetectiveOlivawWriters only success is to ruin a great delivery once you think about it (or by their own words, shit themselves and ejaculate over their own excretions over the streets). A evil ghost orb that merged itself into a factory that never experienced reality (or self-seethe from split personality that 100% isnt just a writers self insert commie WW1 loss rant copy) trying to argue over humanity when it itself isnt human yet does the crimes worse is retard writing.

@@googleforcedhandleExactly. The Chinese Room does not understand how to make a good or compelling game in any way. It makes me wonder why this was even a video game and not just a short film.

It's a very exploitable mechanic when you figure it out. Throwing Daniel at every threat to remove them from the play made the game much easier, especially areas like the Choir.

Pretty much all of enemy encounters in Amnesia DD are scripted and easily controllable. So much so, that once you've memorized the scripted events and monster behaviour during the aforementioned events, you'd have to go out of your way to be actively chased/killed by them. I've pretty much learned this while I was doing 100% achievements on Steam - trying to beat the game on Hard, so on and so forth. You can find numerous numbers of guides on the matter or strategies for speed running explaining these things - monsters in Amnesia DD are completely predictable and very easily to control, kite, or "despawn" them all together. And there's zero randomness to it either. Once again, once you've learned that, you'd have to do things "wrong" on purpose, if you want monsters to chase you around and whatnot. Monsters in Amnesia DD are extremely primitive in terms of their execution, even though devs masterfully managed to make it seem otherwise. Especially if it's a first or a blind playthrough.

@@DopecrawleR69Which is all it needs to be. Horror as a genre isnt a replay friendly one and everything is easy with a walkthrough.

My favorite was a chase sequence and it spawned behind a door I was opening and it exploded in my face.

@@ANDELE3025 I realize that this might be simply a preferential thing, but I fully disagree. A good horror game has just as much replay value as any other non-session based game. Because yeah, it's kinda difficult to top roguelikes, arena shooters or some MMO/ARPG games in terms of sheer replayability potential. However, I replay Alien Isolation every few years, just the same as I do with, let's say, Fallout New Vegas. Now, if we're talking about "generic-Steam-indie-horror-jumpscare-galore" kind of horror game, then yeah, I'd be inclined to agree. The point is, the better horror game's (or any game, for that matter) AI is directed or even orchestrated, the less it feels like a mindless spooky ride at the amusement park. Kinda helps with the whole "suspension of disbelief" thing, too, which is becoming increasingly difficult to uphold. Doesn't matter if it's your first playthrough or a fifth one, either.

I'm wondering the same thing! It's from a Final Fantasy game, right?

@@SamsButterscotch It's Beware the Forest Mushrooms, but I also saw Mandy lists the songs used at the end of the video, which I forgot about earlier. So many creators don't list the songs used, it's great that he does.

@@BobbyBlackhearts666 Damn I was actually looking for the song credits and couldn't find them! Thanks for the catch!

Professor: "This plot of your is madness, Mr. Mandus. What do you hope to achieve with this so-called Amnesia™: A Machine For Pigs?" Mandus: "I'll fashion mankind into pigs! Pigs are simple creatures, Professor. They can not wage war, have no interest in nuclear arms... Professor, did you know you can not hug your children with nuclear arms?" Professor: "Dude, did you hit your fucking head or something?" *rips brass Edwardian vape, blows cloud in Mandus's face* "Are you going bonkers, my scud? Go lay down, pig-man. Get your fucking head on right, get out of here."

No it's about an ex-meat factory owner Mandus who turned into circus performer and trains pigs to drive a comically sized automobiles.

There is a reason most fans of VTMB have basically given up and called the game dead on arrival. Like the only thing going for them is that the previous developers did some shitty stuff and were clearly going over budget.

These guys aren't in charge of Bloodlines. Mostly because by my understanding the studio has had a near complete turnover. The new devs mostly do mobile games. So it is a different set of issues.

@@squirrel_killer- Since when? Cause from what I remember, old devs went over budget, then Paradox gave it to The Chinese Room.

@@Guymanbot97 Founder of TCR fired everyone in 2017 or so, then Sumo Digital acquired them the year after, they started bringing on more people and the founder left soon after. No one who had a hand in Machine for Pigs is at that studio anymore. TCR is still working on VTMB2.

Possibly, no doubt Bunker was on an idea board somewhere either before or after Pig

That is very cool.

My hope is thats because he knows it, just like the prior monologue, is merely pretentious, pointless and carried again by the music. In reality, its likely so that he doesnt spoil it for people that get immersed by the music and delivery enough to not think about what is actually happening in narrative during the speech.

@@ANDELE3025 Boooooo you stink

@@ANDELE3025 why do you feel the need to reply to every other comment praising the writing just to go "actually its bad and pretentious"

@@mutantfreak48 Hes a nut idk.

I was there when Mandus Slew the Pigperor.

That's what I heard too, for a second I thought Mandy had subtly changed it but that would have undermined his own build up to the monologue

It definitely sounds like “and they will eat. Your. ARSE!” If you’re thinking it.

Idk if I am ready for a SOMA review. Anytime I go down the rabbit hole of that game again I end up in a week and a half depression. Truly a great game.

@@Guymanbot97 It hurts so good.

Music, 100% solid, dialogue, entirely pointless and in context even worse.

@@ANDELE3025can you explain a little bit? I’ve seen a few people say this but not explain why it’s so bad?

@@joshuaspaulding2978 Engineer is either a copy/different version of the Amnesia Orbs (so leftover/portal connection/power link of a eldritch whatever kaiju; essentially plot coupon) or a split part of Ozzy Mandys soul/spirit (or whatever other interpretation of eldritch orb induced schizophrenia essentially). Which means no matter which way, the POV of the speech is either a fake prophetic spirit spouting nonsense (as it in the very game and equivalents were explicitly wrong prior) that never experienced anything of the world beyond aztec jungles or just the protagonists evil size ramblings thinking the world will end after killing his sons in a bout of madness. The dialogue only makes any sense if you apply it from a generous modern day perspective/the writer speaking to the players instead of characters in narrative because its either from a source which isnt prophetic or is the delusions of a criminal that killed his kids and did horrible experiments on the poor and downtrodden that the church was supposed to help. Also the same writers wrote about people getting off in the streets while shitting themselves and how if only the evils of religion, capitalism and culture were destroyed the world could be better (while in irony using Trotsky and post first revolution communist failure quotes as if they were good messages) so for anyone not just doing a basic glance over its expected.

@@ANDELE3025 The machine is explicitly given sentience by the broken half of Mandus' soul (which was absorbed by the orb, used to create the machine) and Mandus supplying it with his blood. None of its predictions are untrue; they are all direct references to events that took place in the real-world 20th century. If you think the game is just "capitalism bad" then you weren't paying attention. Hell, Mandy even specifically points out that Mandus effectively hates everyone and everything, the machine wants to destroy the entire *planet* by "cracking the egg" at the core, and any excuses about the how's and why's of what he's doing are just that - excuses. Keep in mind, the machine largely only references totalitarian Communist states in its ranting at the end, so the game condemns both capitalism *and* totalitarian communism. Mandus was in a bad place after his wife's death, encountering the orb convinced him to do something to make things a whole lot worse, and it left him in a sort of fugue state where the "evil half" of his soul was taking over and guiding him. It was only after he relinquished that half of his soul to awaken the machine (and, apparently, after a good wank in front of the mirror) that the "good" half of him woke up and realized he had to stop it. Mandy also covers this in the video.

@@dc8836 The orb gave him visions of his kids dying in WW1, which couldnt happen if he sacrificed them to the orb which was the prerequisite for its visions as was the success of the factory to effectively end humanity, so no, all of its visions were explicitly wrong. Also no, it cries "no true communism", not that communism is bad, because it very much does promote commie nonsense both through actually shitty dialogue AND ITS OPENING AND END CREDITS. You are free to read secondary causes into the story, but those are products of your fiction and not facts of the narrative (which is either Ozzys eldritch induced schizo or a copy of the og amensia localized eldritch kaiju orb that didnt even have the benefit of ever seeing anything of the world outside of a single aztec temple and both have no context for the stair monologue) per which the writing itself is nonsense that relies on the idea of the player only thinking of it as meta narrative to them instead of through the in universe content, which is a fundamental writing failure.

Thank you so much for this comment. That clip intrigued me so much and I never would have known what it was without this. Watched the film last night and it was an absolute masterpiece.

@@RamHornBeast I'm really happy you could find such an awesome film thanks to my comment (and mandalore of course). Thanks for letting me know too.

Hell yeah. I'm glad to see Mandy has jumped on the 😊

Sadly, Ross Scott committed the most heinous of crimes: He directly threatened the gov't monopoly on a thing (in this case power over the market, but it really doesn't matter what, just that it happened), and will therefore remain in prison likely until his final days. My heart goes out to his Mother and all who hold him dear.

Are you drunk?​@@ZacHawkins42

Oh, my bad: I hadn't had my coffee yet and thought this was regarding Ross Ulbricht for some reason. *There's* a Ross who's fight needs support.

@@ZacHawkins42 TF do you mean? He literally asked THEM to actually wield it in order to get rid of gaming's legislative grey area.

Gotta get that mandussy

It's especially genius to have the machine predicting the future from a historical setting since we all know what all atrocities actually took place in the century to follow. It really elevates it above a typical "humans are evil and do bad things!" doomposting monologue that villains sometimes give.

i think that's a reference to the nuclear bombings of japan, where shadows of people were burned into the ground

@@ALE199-ita no shit

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