An ABSOLUTE BEAST of a Headphone Amp! Woo Audio WA-23 Luna Review

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Joshua Valour

Joshua Valour

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 100
@watchin-stoof988
@watchin-stoof988 14 күн бұрын
New precedent we should set - if a company won’t show internal photos, assume it’s garbage
@PauloEduardo-sb2uf
@PauloEduardo-sb2uf 6 ай бұрын
Starting 2024 with a banger, happy new year Josh!!!
@Rubiks_LIVE
@Rubiks_LIVE 6 ай бұрын
I got to listen to this along with the 1266 at Axpona 2023. I was absolutely floored.
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 6 ай бұрын
Happy new year to you and yours.🎊 If I had the means this would be on my must have list as for headphones/ pre amp amplifier. Damn nice looking and sounds amazing.
@neal1256
@neal1256 6 ай бұрын
Happy New Year to you and yours ! 🎉
@JonYeoAU
@JonYeoAU 6 ай бұрын
I heard this today. So true that I felt like I was in the room with the musicians!
@WooAudioUSA
@WooAudioUSA 6 ай бұрын
You are absolutely correct about the design topology does not determine the sound quality and performance. thank you for the great review. ~ Mike
@andreas7278
@andreas7278 6 ай бұрын
The amp being a class A DHT single ended non-otl tube amp plays a great role of what kind of sound signature can be achieved in the end. Some people just seem to mistake that simple design topology with low quality while in fact done well has been a magical combination for decades. Basically most of the characteristics Joshua mentioned in the video are pretty much what you can expect of any high performing amp using the same topology irregardless of it being a power amp for speakers or a headphone amp. Joshua could have easily been talking about my mono block power amps for my speakers which use the exact same topology, just are a couple times heavier with beefy output transformers etc meant to drive speakers instead of headphones but that type of sound characteristic he described is pretty much way this topology is still relevant after decades. You only find this type of sound signature with this topology, other tube topologies sound differently, let alone non-tube stuff.
@DocToxicTF2
@DocToxicTF2 6 ай бұрын
Ordered my wa23 a few days ago. Iam looking forward like a little boy!! Can`t wait. Greetings from germany!
@De132an
@De132an 6 ай бұрын
Very pretty! 2 to 5 watts based on the tube complement
@dzemoski45
@dzemoski45 6 ай бұрын
I would love to see this go toe to toe with the Feliks audio Envy. Come on Josh, make it happen 😁!
@give-me-guts-to-accept-truth
@give-me-guts-to-accept-truth 6 ай бұрын
10:54look at his attention to details, just there started talking about iem and iem has been introduced in the background ❤❤ Btw love from India ❤
@lphlistic967
@lphlistic967 5 ай бұрын
Going to listen this with my delta airlines headphones!
@eruilluvitar
@eruilluvitar 6 ай бұрын
Woo! This is my absolute favorite amp right now. It's so, so lovely 😍
@eruilluvitar
@eruilluvitar 6 ай бұрын
@@AniketKapse lol already have it! Bought it a little over a year ago 😁
@yarbles66
@yarbles66 6 ай бұрын
I was looking at the Woo Audio enclosed cube style tube amps because I am concerned I'll whack the tubes on this or anything with a similar form factor. Any idea how those compare to something open like this one with much bigger tubes?
@eruilluvitar
@eruilluvitar 6 ай бұрын
@@yarbles66 Yeah, the Fireflies are great little tube amps. That being said, they have a pretty different sound compared to this. Their sound, while warm, is more neutral than this is and they don't stage nearly as well as this does. However, I don't think I'd worry too much about hitting the tubes on this - they're already somewhat protected by the chassis of the amp and they're pretty robust to boot. That said, you should always avoid touching tubes directly with your hands, as the oils on your hands can reduce their lifespan.
@yarbles66
@yarbles66 6 ай бұрын
@@eruilluvitar saw the price on these. 9K isn't in budget for me right now unfortunately. Also I'm quite sick and basically live in bed with all my gear on bedside tables. I'm usually on heavy meds for pain and I've broken far less fragile stuff by knocking it not quite in my right mind 😅 I could go 1500 (soonish - at a push!) I may just get something cheap to see if I actually like the tube thing & guys who review v high end stuff have said the Xduoo TA-26S is fantastic value at a few hundred. Annoyed the DROP collab they did sold out 😩 as that looks a bit better for not much more. Gonna pass on the Firefly as def don't want neutral. Kind thanks.
@eruilluvitar
@eruilluvitar 6 ай бұрын
@@yarbles66 The TA-26S is indeed excellent; it's super fun and easy to tube roll with. It's also much better built than the Dark Voice. I'd also recommend the xDuoo MT-604, if you want something tubey and balanced - it's also fun for tube rolling. If you're looking at the 1500-ish mark, you may want to check out the WA8 from Woo audio. It's a really nice little portable tube dac/amp with good punch (though it struggles to drive harder headphones like the Susvara or Tungsten). Lastly, the WA6-SE is right at that 1500 mark new and equally great - Jack and Mike at @WooAudioUSA can recommend some great non-stock tubes to try with it. I hope your health improves and if not that it at least keeps up so you can keep enjoying the music!
@Sandman121
@Sandman121 6 ай бұрын
The only real reason why people think balanced sounds better than unbalanced is because so many modern Dacs have better sounding balanced outputs than their single ended outputs.
@BobbyDigital6411
@BobbyDigital6411 6 ай бұрын
The primary reason to run balanced is for the power output, but single-ended has come such a long way that the difference between that and balanced is pretty much negligible. There are plenty of single-ended amps that are providing 4W+ per channel on single-ended which should be more than enough for 99% of the headphones out there.
@Peace_Guard
@Peace_Guard 6 ай бұрын
There are reasons to run an SS amp balanced other than power output. For a tube, single-ended (SET) actually means a more musical topology than balanced (push-pull).
@aceofspades6667
@aceofspades6667 6 ай бұрын
Such a solid review… somebody get this man a Trafomatic primavera or viva egoista 845 or riviera aic-10
@rocknez2604
@rocknez2604 6 ай бұрын
Gorgeous amp …
@yarbles66
@yarbles66 6 ай бұрын
I was looking at the Woo Audio enclosed cube style tube amps because I am concerned I'll whack the tubes on this or anything with a similar form factor. There's a 1399 Fireflies one I have my eye on but I'm just not sure if this is really going to give me that thick warm sound... otherwise there is no point... I already have a Topping DX9 so I am looking for something very different to compliment it. Any idea how those compare to something open like this one with much bigger tubes?
@illiazakrevskyi783
@illiazakrevskyi783 6 ай бұрын
Can you please review Aune s 17 pro! Really want to know your opinion
@edmond40
@edmond40 6 ай бұрын
I have WA3 with my sennheiser HD600 , HD6xx & HD800s those are best matching headphones with my Woo Audio WA3. I wonder why this model has been discontinued!!
@bencausey
@bencausey 6 ай бұрын
Love your videos. I would kindly correct your pronunciation - “specificity” is not “specisivity”. Thanks.
@DaSixSixOne
@DaSixSixOne 6 ай бұрын
Will you be reviewing the Schiit Mjolnir 3? It may be an interesting comparison.
@badseedtech
@badseedtech 6 ай бұрын
Damn that was the same face I made when I saw the thumbnail lol
@StrangeBrewReviews
@StrangeBrewReviews 6 ай бұрын
now test it against a Audio-Technica AM150 90's stereo mixer with the record output sent back into the other channel with the L/R flipped for a pure analog cross feed fader....this headphone setup is unbeatable. if you find a good unit. about $50 used or NOS.
@mamakuba
@mamakuba 5 ай бұрын
What DAC do you recommend as a pairing? The headphones would be Diana MR and Empyrian IIs.
@travismaley294
@travismaley294 5 ай бұрын
Lint roller those HD600's!
@kevinpunter7960
@kevinpunter7960 6 ай бұрын
One day!
@thanawitsagulthang6471
@thanawitsagulthang6471 6 ай бұрын
It do be nice if this amp is compared against something similar to it price or at least something half it price so the viewer know what they are getting or not getting when they are paying more at that price
@dream-bits
@dream-bits 6 ай бұрын
8900 bucks if you’re interested. EU price is probably arround 10k.
@peterandersson6762
@peterandersson6762 5 ай бұрын
Hi Josh! I ordered the ifi audio pro ican signature. It turned out that it was out of stock. So i have to whait for theire next model called ifi audio ican studio. Are you able to get a sample of that new one for rewiew? Mvh/Peter
@bomb00000
@bomb00000 6 ай бұрын
$8,900 mama-mia thats a lot for a system like that
@GodlyBeams
@GodlyBeams 6 ай бұрын
Do you plan on reviewing the topping dx9?
@IgorPetruk1989
@IgorPetruk1989 6 ай бұрын
Their marketing webpage features LCD-R. That is a statement I think
@mudibluz2006
@mudibluz2006 6 ай бұрын
I think everyone is wondering if this can power modhouse's Tungsten headphone.
@IgorPetruk1989
@IgorPetruk1989 6 ай бұрын
Nope, unless preampted from the source
@kingstoler
@kingstoler 4 ай бұрын
is there even a difference compared to an apple dongle or a normal solid state?
@thelastrhino2581
@thelastrhino2581 6 ай бұрын
Tactility - if you know, you know.
@x32i77
@x32i77 6 ай бұрын
It's a shame that you hadn't the zmf verite open pheasan wood edition with this amp since it benefits the most out of all open back headphones from this amp
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude 6 ай бұрын
You know this amp reminds me of like old school headphone hifi. Back before reddit ruled the audio waves and discussions raged on head-fi, big behemoth tube amps like these were the be all end all, and people were discussing whether or not balanced was even worth it.
@masterazlan6999
@masterazlan6999 6 ай бұрын
Even tho im done with headphones.. I think abyss is made for woo audio.. N the best Still wa33 with 1266..Still..Peace!
@hifix-man319
@hifix-man319 5 ай бұрын
You think you are in the position to be done with headphones just because you had woo33 with 1266? Lmao
@masterazlan6999
@masterazlan6999 5 ай бұрын
Nope, Cuz IEM r mo sensitives then headphones bra.. Peace!
@bean7750
@bean7750 6 ай бұрын
an absolute beast for 0,0001% of your viewers who can might buy it lol
@Superman54
@Superman54 6 ай бұрын
Lololol
@steelbiker70
@steelbiker70 6 ай бұрын
This costs about the quarter of a normal car.. So if you get along without a car you could easily pay it off within a year. Like me, and I’m a nurse, not a rich person.
@wtfgebeurdmij2991
@wtfgebeurdmij2991 6 ай бұрын
Okay, lets remove the percentage and add a few words from ( from the original comment ): An absolute beast for the mentally ill viewers who can buy it if they decide to spend the rest of their lives walking everywhere ​@@steelbiker70
@Snxgur
@Snxgur 6 ай бұрын
@@steelbiker70who the f*k would pay off a headphone amplifier over a YEAR? horrible financial decision ..
@CookieCurls
@CookieCurls 6 ай бұрын
@@steelbiker70what cars are $9k anymore?
@marcob.7801
@marcob.7801 25 күн бұрын
"Specificity!"
@SearchAshPile
@SearchAshPile 6 ай бұрын
_Specificity_
@syanhc
@syanhc 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately WOO Audio are crazy expensive. I'm not sure how relevant such a product is for most people. The Fireflies is a much more reasonable price.
@jinxPad
@jinxPad 6 ай бұрын
Carerful Josh, you'll have the 3" tall amp cyclists trying to cancel you if you carry on not caring about their work! (Great video as always by the way)
@0rogontorogon
@0rogontorogon 6 ай бұрын
This hobby is truly weird... Non-enthusiasts will probably prefer an Edition XS on a Zen stack with a 10 db bass shelf over this, but as soon as you dove into that rabbit hole this will surely sound heavenly.
@bifcake
@bifcake 6 ай бұрын
Just as an FYI, the word you're looking for is "specificity". I cringed every time you said "spevicivity". Thanks for the great review.
@andrewhayes7055
@andrewhayes7055 3 ай бұрын
An amp out of the reach of the majority
@kutasimusic
@kutasimusic 6 ай бұрын
For the very first time I am first. 😄
@csch92
@csch92 6 ай бұрын
That what she says too right?
@Mastermnd1
@Mastermnd1 6 ай бұрын
I mean, of course it's expensive if it contains a miniaturized man on a bicycle. And the horn is probably summit fi. Now, seriously, compare it with something from feliks audio or other reputable brands
@masterxyr
@masterxyr 6 ай бұрын
verbose? eloquent would actually be useful. a magnificent piece of hifi jewellery, eloquently toured by the reviewing artiste :))
@masterxyr
@masterxyr 6 ай бұрын
pity it's golden though... for me, oc.
@masterxyr
@masterxyr 6 ай бұрын
these big baller pieces of equipment could do with longer videos. I take pleasure in your cinematics and lack of waffle, which by making them longer would perhaps be paradoxical, but hey, I'd enjoy it!
@N4N15
@N4N15 6 ай бұрын
Way way too much and a warranty that cover only manufacturing defects... A solid pass, even if I can afford it.
@04yellowjacket
@04yellowjacket 2 ай бұрын
Everyone has that one word that they cannot pronounce correctly.
@nathanwhite617
@nathanwhite617 6 ай бұрын
I just spent $200 on a DAC amp and felt guilty about it. This will be good enough for me for as long as it lasts, and the digital display even gives me pause because it something that can break. When I could have this thing for a long time assuming stuff is made to last, which maybe not. It’s a Topping DX3 pro $9k on an amp has to give even the richest audiophile some level of White/First World guilt.
@Charlitoz97
@Charlitoz97 6 ай бұрын
it's balanced because i suspect... IT MAKES NO DAMN ACTUAL, HUMANLY-PERCEIVABLE DIFFERENCE.
@sauhamm3821
@sauhamm3821 6 ай бұрын
if anyone is curious what a $9000 amp "sounds" like... like a $600amp. just one hell of a lot prettier :)
@Peace_Guard
@Peace_Guard 6 ай бұрын
And which exact 600$ amp sounds like this one?
@dzemoski45
@dzemoski45 6 ай бұрын
@@Peace_Guard$60 amp 😂
@sauhamm3821
@sauhamm3821 6 ай бұрын
blind - if you sit and listen to this, the a90d, a schiit piety and i dunno, a yamaha receiver from the late 90s... you are not going to be able to pick the expensive one vs the cheap one vs the audiophile specific one. they're all going to sound just about perfect. any difference won't be a sudden boost in clarity or in quality of any component of the sound. any difference, again, unsighted, is going to be ever so minute - like a tilt shift of a degree off center. sighted - you 100% can wax poetic about them for however long you need to. but blind...? no... that isn't how electricity or a modulated signal works. capacitors and resistors and valves aren't rated by price. they're rated by capacitance and resistance. QC and stability to environment. the signal doesn't care how pretty the amp is, or what it costs. the signal doesn't care about varying topology. you can filter electricity with 4 parts or 400 exotic parts. the electricity out the other side is the exact same. filtered. consider this... via measuring equipment infinitely more sensitive and infinitely less bias than a human, there is no electrical or spectrum related differences to the output of dacs and amps. 1v is 1v - 80mw is 80mw. again, if there is noise in the audible band, something is broken - hell my PC motherboard doesn't have noise on the signal. which is more likely - all this stuff sounds exceedingly similar and we have to sell it with flowery details... or... a $10,000 amp, magically can imbue electricity with clarity and an expanded sound stage...? yes, gear is different from other gear. yes there are all manner of details i'm glossing over, but the lie in this hobby is that the difference keeps scaling with price. it does not. when there is a variance, it's... a slight step off from center. anyone selling you differently... TDLR - amp differences are infinitely smaller than reviewers let on. there is no amount of auditory clarity that approaches $9000... if you listened to this and a topping a90d blind, you will not pick one or the other as the "better" one - different maybe, better no. @@Peace_Guard
@Peace_Guard
@Peace_Guard 6 ай бұрын
@@sauhamm3821 And you guys have auditioned, blind or not, against high-end amps? Because no one who has writes such things. You know auditioning can be free, right? You don't need to spend any money to verify if you're right or not, but you do need to have a will to do so. Otherwise it's like those guys saying that one TV is no different than other, because it's all the same electricity. And there's literally no one who will listen to Wa23 and A90D blind and not think that Luna is much better. Worth the price is a different thing, as this depends on what can someone afford, but the difference is not comparable, especially when you compare a shrill abrasive SS like chi-fi Topping and a high-end powerful OTC SET tube.
@mikeg2491
@mikeg2491 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@sauhamm3821If a $60 amp can sound like a $6k one then logically I should be able to get a $6k speaker for $60, no? “Noooo nooo no that’s different!”
@kentbergstrom3020
@kentbergstrom3020 6 ай бұрын
You will get great build quality and looks for your money, the rest is snake oil.
@vijeykumar7429
@vijeykumar7429 6 ай бұрын
Ikr, but it's insane to me how these reviewers make it seem like it's worth the money. Like why do they have to put so much effort into making us believe it's anywhere near worth the insane price tag when it's clearly not?
@Enigma1990ad
@Enigma1990ad 6 ай бұрын
9k for this thing? LMAO! Who is this made for? Audiophiles that wear Versace, Louis Vuitton and Prada while driving one of their Bugattis?
@emiel255
@emiel255 6 ай бұрын
Not necessarily that, but I would say just in general people who are able to afford that kind of money, while at the same time being audio files
@JohnDoe-df2zz
@JohnDoe-df2zz 6 ай бұрын
Not worth watching a review of a $9k amp.
@ValterSuriZis
@ValterSuriZis 5 ай бұрын
Please, does the Topping D90 le make a big difference in sound compared to the Topping D30 pro and the Topping L50. Have a nice day
@Luna_lalals05
@Luna_lalals05 6 ай бұрын
Hi Joshua! I hope this message finds you well. I wanted to inform you that I've sent you an email and a direct message on Instagram, both discussing the exciting possibility of collaborating. Take your time to review them!
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