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Headphone Amplifier Tier List!

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Joshua Valour

Joshua Valour

Күн бұрын

If you like tier lists, we also have a headphone tier list you can check out here - • HEADPHONE TIER LIST
Below, is a list of everything mentioned for your convenience :)
S-TIER:
- SMSL SH-6 - amzn.to/3GvcOtb
- Schiit Magni - amzn.to/3zJjfVI
- Topping A90 - apos.audio/pro...
- Topping A90D - apos.audio/pro...
- Topping DX3 Pro + - apos.audio/pro...
- Schiit Magnius - amzn.to/40SP6j1
A-Tier
Xduoo TA-22 - apos.audio/pro...
FiiO K7 - apos.audio/pro...
Schiit Fulla - www.schiit.com...
B-Tier
NFB-1AMP - www.audio-gd.co...
JDS Labs Atom - jdslabs.com/pr...
Schiit Hel - amzn.to/41c87fU
Topping DX7 - apos.audio/pro...
FiiO K9 - apos.audio/pro...
C-Tier
Lyr+ - www.schiit.com...
EF400 - amzn.to/3mlCwJX
DX-5 - apos.audio/pro...
Darkvoice - apos.audio/pro...
D-Tier
SA-1 - apos.audio/pro...
XA-10 - apos.audio/pro...
ZH1ES - amzn.to/3ZTW06i
F-Tier
HDV820 - amzn.to/3Mx21CK
TA-26 - apos.audio/pro...
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@BoostedBill96
@BoostedBill96 Жыл бұрын
As an audiophile noob, keep the tier lists coming. It’s a HUGE help
@Maver1ck911
@Maver1ck911 Жыл бұрын
This channel is better viewed than listened to for buying advice
@parkerlewis7924
@parkerlewis7924 Жыл бұрын
I recommend the modius and magnius, It's a fantastic combo! I currently run my lcd-x and the arya's on it, they sound amazing through that stack! Also another thing I like to point out, in the tier list he said A tier but put it in S. I guess he changed his mind while editing lol
@Desmond987
@Desmond987 Жыл бұрын
@@parkerlewis7924 Nice humble brag to a person that literally identifies himself as audiophile noob.
@camoturtle18
@camoturtle18 Жыл бұрын
@@parkerlewis7924 question for you my guy. How bright is the Aryas treble compared to the lcd-x? How about the amount of bass and vocals? Also let me know which version of each headphone you have. Arya v1, v2, stealth and lcd-x 2021 or pre2021. Edit: I am assuming the Audeze will of course have less treble and more bass but really how much of a difference?
@parkerlewis7924
@parkerlewis7924 Жыл бұрын
@CamoTurtle18 To be completely honest these headphones sound very similar but the lcd in my opinion sounds a little better, but the aryas don't hurt your head after a long session cus they're so Weightless. And like you said less trouble and more bass on the lcd. Edit: Oh yeah one more thing. I have the stealth verison and the the lcd its 2021? The lcd has way better sound staging Compared to the Ayra stealth.
@camoturtle18
@camoturtle18 Жыл бұрын
Updated headphone tier list with DMS would be amazing, keep it in mind!! (:
@ernievarhola5287
@ernievarhola5287 Жыл бұрын
Really surprised the THX789 doesn't even get listed considering it's the only amp anyone could talk about a couple years ago...
@JohnScheppler
@JohnScheppler Жыл бұрын
There are so many headphone amplifiers, but a few a wish were included the Nitsch Schiit Piety, Drop THX One and Little Dot. Thanks for these lists, and I hope you feel better soon.
@josephprakash4475
@josephprakash4475 Жыл бұрын
Agree on the One.
@SmilinMikeable
@SmilinMikeable Жыл бұрын
No drop thx 789? Everyone was blubbering effusively 3 years ago. I would love to see how it stands up with the test of time.
@h4tch3tt74
@h4tch3tt74 6 ай бұрын
The 789 has something nothing in his list has, a signal passthrough as well. Got powered speakers? Just put the 789 after the fact and pass the signal out the 789 to the powered speakers rcas. And the little dog is probably one of the most if not The most popular tube amp. Those 2 were big misses.
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude Жыл бұрын
An amp I think is heavily underrated is the iFi Zen Can (NOT the Dac). It has all the relevant features of the more expensive iFi products like xBass and 3D, it has a ton of power, balanced outs and pre-outs, and sounds super god damn clean to the point where I'm not sure why people are spending thousands on amps for headphones, or even spending big money on headphone amps in the first place. For under 200 dollars it really is a steal, and it's even built really well too. Super smooth knob and all metal chassis, not flimsy cheap metal either. I run mine with an E30 and Avantone Planars and I'll die on the hill that it sounds better than most setups costing triple what mine does. Not to mention that if your headphones have large drivers but are slightly bass shy, the xBass is really what you need to get them sounding full. It only boosts sub-bass (60 Hz and down) and does it kind of dynamically so percussion is affected more than something like a bass drone would be. For another system I think is good; this is some oldschool shit, but a setup I remember super fondly was the original HD800's paired with a DNA Stratos tube amp and a Matrix something or other (maybe Xsabre?) DAC. This was back in 2013, when the go-to option for high end headphones was the original HD800, which was famously amp-picky. However it paired fabulously with the DNA Stratos, made every song I played through it sounded like I was in a concert hall, crazy width but without losing any detail. I will say that the width was artificial, it was definitely not there if you played the same song through some highly accurate monitoring headphones, but I've never heard another set of headphones sound as much like speakers as that set. As for amps I think are not good... anything costing huge money unless it's bringing some special feature to the table. I can understand why speaker amps are expensive: high power + high precision is very expensive to achieve unless you have GaN class D, and even that costs thousands. However with a headphone amp you could have pure class A if you wanted to because your transient peaks are at like what, 15, 20 watts even for hard to drive headphones? I am of the opinion that a pure headphone amp (no auxiliary features) should not be costing more than 2k for any reason. I'll extend that up to 4k if it has features or an integrated DAC or something like that.
@merovech7
@merovech7 Жыл бұрын
Hey do you think the iFi Zen DAC + CAN is okay for Hifiman Arya? Thank you
@alexsnow5
@alexsnow5 Жыл бұрын
@@merovech7 Hi, I got last month the Signature HFM AMP +DAC for my Hifiman Edition XS and I can say that it sounds spectacular
@4epa1012
@4epa1012 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've got the Ifi Zen Can paired with Ifi Zen Dac Signature V2 and man, this thing smashes the bass out of my Edition XS headphones. Love it! It is a bit dark sound, but this can be easily fixed with some EQ 🤘🤘🤘
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude Жыл бұрын
@@4epa1012 Plus I bet that dark sound is mostly due to the Hifimans. To me the amps are very neutral sounding, for example with my ie600's it sounds quite bright on the high and with crazy bass on the low end.
@4epa1012
@4epa1012 Жыл бұрын
@@CockatooDude Yeh, the bass on this thing is massive lol. I tried the Gustard H16 amp, returned it immediately, it just cannot match the bass that I am getting out of my Zen Can. I like to listen music at low volume and feel the bass. I was thinking to buy some of the Topping amps, but now I am not sure whether this is a good idea.
@Allaces305
@Allaces305 Жыл бұрын
Dx3 pro + is amazing price vs. performance... definitely a great buy and it sounds right there with the best topping makes plus it's feature loaded. At $200 it's hard to beat... On sale it's crazy.
@AusOpening
@AusOpening Жыл бұрын
that's IF you like the clinical sound topping makes, I've compared it with the K5 pro and it's definitely harsher sounding though more resolving whereas the k5 has a slight heft to the bass. imo the jds labs atom stack sounds the most linear - bass is not as flat as the topping but also doesn't add any warmth like the k5 did, that's my reccomendation but to each of their own i guess
@JohnSmith-oe4bw
@JohnSmith-oe4bw Жыл бұрын
K7 is a direct competitor, and based on sonic preference and required features, may be better.
@Allaces305
@Allaces305 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-oe4bw wow the K7 really does look like a great piece of gear...👍🏼
@davidtull2388
@davidtull2388 Жыл бұрын
it also doesn’t like 16ohm headphones
@ericbellgardt9909
@ericbellgardt9909 Жыл бұрын
Would something like that work with a beyerdynamics 250 ohm? What spec do you look for on an amp to make sure it can power your headphones?
@Emre-qd3th
@Emre-qd3th 4 күн бұрын
What do you think, Fiio Q3 or Q11? Also, when you look at other Fiio products that are portable, what would be your suggestion?
@jafizzle95
@jafizzle95 Жыл бұрын
Well, based on my limited experience of only a handful of amps, the 789 is my personal S tier seeing as it really doesn't leave me wanting anything more and it's driven me to sell/get rid of a few others that I've tried because they all sound worse. The A90D is in my sights for another clean and linear king at some point in the future. Right behind the 789 is the M17 even though it's a DAP. I use it for desktop use at work every day. I put it behind the 789 just because it lacks a tiny bit of bite (texture?) that the 789 has that I love so much. It's still clean and linear though and that's what I like. The most disappointing amp I've tried is the FiiO K9 (AKM). It blunted the treble while still somehow adding sibilance and harshness where literally no other amp I have tried shows either trait on the same roster of headphones/IEMs. If I desired those traits then I'd rather mace myself and shove a sock down my ear canal to get the same effect. Also I hate the interface. Those puny little cheap feeling switches that require a flashlight to use, the volume knob that wobbled and felt like a paddle in mud.... It's big, heavy, and runs hot to the point that it concerned me. Hate that thing so much.
@brook9166
@brook9166 Жыл бұрын
What about the THX 789/887 that you once recommended? Which tier would they be in?
@Firebottleman
@Firebottleman Жыл бұрын
Why so many people are stuck on how a component measures is beyond me. Our ears and the music we listen to are anything but flat. We are not machines. Sources and amps should be flat, but most cans and speakers that are, do not sound natural or pleasing to the human ear. The design teams and engineers that make our stereo components are finally starting to make good sounding gear that is musical and enjoyable once again. These said stereo components measure anything but ruler flat. It's about time as far as I'm concerned. Why do you think so many people nowadays have turned back to buy various stereo components from the seventies and eighties? Because we weren't fixated on measurements, just good sound, if we had the right synergy. Thanks for the video Josh. These are a lot of work.
@audie-cashstack-uk4881
@audie-cashstack-uk4881 8 ай бұрын
Agred and its .ike Maradona vs Messi mesi sia numbers man in the clean efficent game Maradona was a coke head booze head who played in tne days of butchery abuse assults yet still played the game better than anyone ever born one is art the other just numbers. I use warm headphones tried by previous reference ones they sound like a old crisp chip packet being crushedmup before throwing into the waste paper basket
@PHILIPP_ONLINE
@PHILIPP_ONLINE Жыл бұрын
S tier - BURSON Soloist x3 GT, one of the best amps I’ve heard and owned. F tier - never thought about it, but I was shocked that HD 800s sounds really good on Burson (I could listen to it without eq easy) and how sharp, piercing and flat they are on D90, but D90 relatively affordable… so for F tier (from what I owned) - Musician Andromeda. Not the worst overall, but power is not it’s strong suite. For AMP it’s crucial in my opinion.
@elhijueputa8423
@elhijueputa8423 Жыл бұрын
I agree the Burson Soloist 3x GT is balls to the wall good. It's even better if you have it fed by a tube pre-amp.. I have the WA7 Fireflies Gen3 from Woo Audio working as pre-amp to my Soloist and it is just lovely. The sound stage opens up and you get that lovely tube feel to compliment the strengths of the Soloist. I have Mullards 12AU7 reissued tubes from Vivatubes on the WA7 and the sound is just sublime.
@ClintAvila
@ClintAvila Жыл бұрын
S tier - Burson Conductor GT. Makes all my headphones sound fantastic! Incredible how much detail it can extract from HD650 to Arya SE to HD800S
@ClintAvila
@ClintAvila Жыл бұрын
I have since upgraded from Arya SE to HE1000 SE. Holy fkballs! The synergy between the Burson Conductor GT and these headphones 🎧 is utterly breathtaking. I have demo'd for multiple people and the reaction is the same as mine. It's not a small step from my beloved Sennheisers. It's a giant leap! Besides unreal clarity the music sounds like a live performance. I can't believe how much more there is to hear. So happy with my upgrade! Highly recommend this combo.
@DarkFire515
@DarkFire515 Жыл бұрын
Agree 100% with the Burson Soloist X3GT being S-tier. Almost certainly the best amp I've ever had the pleasure of listening to, and has vast amounts of power so things like the 1266 are no problem for it.
@PHILIPP_ONLINE
@PHILIPP_ONLINE 11 ай бұрын
@@salut9658 oh man, $1,000,000 question! Right now I’m using Musician Andromeda and I quite like it. I think good r2r could be overall good choice, like Gustard for example. But it’s all quite pricey, if you willing to buy new. In the end of the day, personally, I am a strong believer in concept, that headphones affect sound so much more, than any DAC. So if I had like 5 grand to spent on gear I would go nice DAC and great HP (like Diana for example), the another way around.
@sergiygonchar6774
@sergiygonchar6774 Жыл бұрын
Consider keeping this list a live list, published online and updated every time you get an amp .. though you may need different categories like build quality vs sound. Would be immensely useful for someone 4 years down the line who found a thing on used market and wants to know if it was any good.
@Karim-ik5ij
@Karim-ik5ij Жыл бұрын
Well then he can't make revision videos every year.
@k.-flynn
@k.-flynn Жыл бұрын
Isn't that just hifiguides?
@isbuttery
@isbuttery Жыл бұрын
Love the list, just wish some more tube amp were included. Recently got the mt-604 and would definitely put it in S tier after about 4 months of use. Was able to get it for 100$ usd, and genuinely just sounds great (tube-ish but not over dramatic, makes eqing easier imo) with enough power to drive everything I own. Would put the khadas tea in F tier, its great for convince and has a warm neutral-ish signature, it doesnt really come close to the resolution of bt dac amps half its price (btr5 and quedelix 5k), and i didnt end up keeping it
@prodigy_xd
@prodigy_xd 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the list. I was surprised you didn't mention a single iFi product and that some amplifiers were also DACs. Hybrids disqualify as Amplifier in my opininon, unless they have also a line-in option (so you can bypass the DAC). If i buy an amp, i just want an amp :)
@oliverjr73
@oliverjr73 Жыл бұрын
Ay bro, just wanted to let you know that the audio on your videos is consistently top-tier. Bought a pair of LCD-2's, but had some stuff to do before I could actually listen to music. Decided to listen to some youtube vids in the background while I worked, and my first "Whoa" moment with them was when one of your vids popped up in the queue. Love your content, keep doing your thing!
@AR-bj5et
@AR-bj5et Жыл бұрын
Josh when he's sick is just something else, man. 😂
@arthurhaywood2184
@arthurhaywood2184 Жыл бұрын
I think that this list says more about your preferences than it does about the actual equipment. Your list seem to be an outlier relative to others I’ve seen.
@mebaugh1
@mebaugh1 Жыл бұрын
Topping A90D for sure - purchased based on your recommendation, mated with SMSL SU-9 Pro. Nice! But I have to say, Im really enjoying the Chord Mojo2 dac/amp- sweeeeet!
@RandyDaMan
@RandyDaMan Жыл бұрын
S Tier- Audio GD Master 9- F- Tier - Most op amp based amplifiers except for the Burson stuff.
@tomas_m
@tomas_m Жыл бұрын
So this is a value tier list ... I'd rather see a ranking not relative to the prices. Everyone could derive the value proposition from that, but not so easily the other way around.
@handcoding
@handcoding Жыл бұрын
Yeah. This seems easily solvable by simultaneously ranking them against two tier lists: one tier list with respect to value and one tier list with respect to absolute performance.
@jonmarinos7170
@jonmarinos7170 Жыл бұрын
This!
@azsampako2266
@azsampako2266 Жыл бұрын
Considering how overblown amp differences are an audio noob would have no idea what amount of money they should spend on an amp. The message here isn’t - the 500$ amp is better than the 100$ one(which is obvious). It’s - expensive stuff is highly overrated.
@thenullco
@thenullco Жыл бұрын
​@bruh Who cares? Enjoy your hobby without worrying about those who get it wrong first time.
@k.-flynn
@k.-flynn Жыл бұрын
@bruh ifi hip dac is $150
@headskullk
@headskullk Жыл бұрын
love it man, please do a combo dac-amp tierlist! :D
@TC-dg5pm
@TC-dg5pm Жыл бұрын
Finally a video joshua keep them coming plz
@charleswhite2426
@charleswhite2426 Жыл бұрын
Class S: RME ADI DAC-2 fs (which I have), any THX AAA design amps (I have the THX AAA 789). Note: the RME has a special output for sensitive IEMs as well as single ended/balanced oututs to drive the most power hungry headphones. Add in your choice of anti-aliasing filters in the dac and full dsp eq with memories for multiple headphones and you have one very special device -of course with all that power you could also make poor choices and have an F-sounding setup. I disposed any F sounding amps sometime ago and don't remember their names. Edited for typos.
@ninja_boy
@ninja_boy Жыл бұрын
I know there's not a lot of talk of portable amplifiers on this channel, but would be nice to see how the Fiio Q7 and the iFi Gryphon stack up. Or any iFi product, like the Zen CAN or the Zen DAC! Because to me, the Zen DAC V2 is absolutely S-tier for its price point and its sound quality. I'm not sure about F-tier, I just haven't heard that many bad ones. Some Schiit Magnis have noisy volume knobs and I've had that with more than one (lots of crackling in the right channel). To me that's unacceptable, so that might move them into F-tier.
@chrisk3127
@chrisk3127 Жыл бұрын
before the price jumps Zen dacs were an absolute steal now depending on what features you want/need there can be better options
@chungang7037
@chungang7037 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisk3127 The Zen Air is like just over a hundred bucks, has a dac built in and xbass...hard to beat at the price, assuming someone is ok with the sound signature. I took it to work. edit: Just checked amazon, it is 99$
@chrisk3127
@chrisk3127 Жыл бұрын
@@chungang7037 could get zen dacs for $130 at one point, bit more power and nicer build + balanced
@chungang7037
@chungang7037 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisk3127 Yea I own that as well, I guess 30 bucks is good if someone wants balanced
@JohnSmith-oe4bw
@JohnSmith-oe4bw Жыл бұрын
ZEN DAC V2 is good, and very handy with the ability to interface with game consoles. I also like the way it sounds way better than the ZEN CAN. I think the 3 competing products that do DAC/AMP are K7, DX3 Pro+, & Zen Dac V2. - I have all 3. It really comes down to feature set and sonic preference.
@donaldwolff
@donaldwolff Жыл бұрын
You didn't say anything about the Drop 789? Is that because it is no longer available, or ?
@radinan
@radinan Жыл бұрын
It's funny to see how tastes differ, I bought the Lyr + for my Arya and I'm very happy with it, it's exactly what I needed to tame these headphones brightness in the upper range and it's very fun to roll the tube to get different flavors. I even directly compared it to the Pro Ican Signature (4 times more expensive than le Lyr) but I returned it and kept the Lyr.
@Armbrust210
@Armbrust210 Жыл бұрын
Probably just a case of different taste, or the specific usecase. That's just how it is in audio. But that can be wonderful as well, saved you over a grand for example. Btw i suppose you mean the Pro ICan Signature.
@Michael_mki233
@Michael_mki233 Жыл бұрын
Really? The two brighter leaning headphones that I heard with the Lyr+ got more sibilant and harsher. Utopia 2022 and Erzitich Mania. It really is crazy how different people hear differently.
@radinan
@radinan Жыл бұрын
@@Armbrust210 Yes, signature and not "prestige", I'll correct that, thanks.
@radinan
@radinan Жыл бұрын
@@Michael_mki233 This, or maybe it's a question of alchemy between headphones and amps, I don't know.
@radinan
@radinan Жыл бұрын
@@Michael_mki233 Out of curiosity, which amps have your preference?
@joshuastephens3926
@joshuastephens3926 Жыл бұрын
I don’t have an F tier because I don’t own one yet lol but my S tier is my IFI zen Dac v2. Extremely surprised you didn’t put this on the list.
@camoturtle18
@camoturtle18 Жыл бұрын
I’m very confused on why you ranked the TA-26 as F, in your review you seemed to like it more than the dark voice?? Also there’s a new S version with 4.4 balanced and a better volume potentiometer that doesn’t skyrocket the volume as fast
@kingzozo19
@kingzozo19 Жыл бұрын
I guess just for lulz :) tier lists are stupid anyway...
@ABDLLHSDDQI
@ABDLLHSDDQI Жыл бұрын
Your ranking of the TA-26. In your video review, you had a totally different opnion and praised the TA-26 over tha Dark Voice and went in detail about how annoying and lower quality the Dark Voice is. Not saying opnions can't change, but the level of drastic change of opinion here about that amplifier rips away at your credibility, especially since how you just staright up threw it in F-tier with single sentence to explain your totally new opnion. How or why should we believe your reviews if your opnions will be totally different not long after, without any justification as to what changed your opinion? What changed? Which video was wrong, the previous one where you parised it or this ranking because both can't be right. As someone who was highly considering this amp at the moment, I'm a bit ticked off.
@IAmNotA.12345
@IAmNotA.12345 Жыл бұрын
Great to hear your personal preferences! Seeing you compare such a huge range of headphone amps is really useful to me. Thanks! If I were to select an S Tier headphone amp - maybe my Nitsch Piety or my Geshelli Labs Archel 2,5 XL. F Tier - xDuoo MT602.
@Robert-ci6sj
@Robert-ci6sj Жыл бұрын
I had a Topping A90D for 2 weeks from a friend and for some years now I'm using the RME ADI-2 Dac fs. tbh the RME eats the the Topping for breakfast, spits it out again and wipes the floor with it. The fact that the RME is not even on your Tier list eventhough its AMP and DAC in one and the price is only 1k just shows, that you really need to give it ago. Srsly the difference between the both is so insane, that with for example a HD800s it sound like a completely different beast with the RME. Soundstage is bigger, more resolution in the highs and low and the music come ALIVE with the RME, it's honestly insane. And I used the RME as a dac connected to the Topping in case anyone is wondering what dac i used for the Topping for comparision.
@j-mals
@j-mals 6 ай бұрын
All very subjective, I personally found the RME boring, it’s good but not great. Especially as a DAC - there’s far far better.
@Robert-ci6sj
@Robert-ci6sj 6 ай бұрын
i've tested a lot of dacs that are sub 2k ... would love to hear some options that are better in your opinion. Even on paper the RME as a dac beats almost everything in this it's price category and even slightly above as it is studio eqipment in a hifi casing.@@j-mals
@j-mals
@j-mals 6 ай бұрын
@@Robert-ci6sj what's the point you have heard most sub 2k DACs , if you like your RME then that's good. Sound is subjective but there's far better now even coming from chifi
@marc8vino
@marc8vino Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about the new RME 2/4...does this sound better than the toppings A90D? This price difference is not an issue. Have you reviewed this newer RME? I don't see that you have yet so just wondering if I missed it.
@Behemoth92
@Behemoth92 Жыл бұрын
'It just completely shits the bed' and that picture, well done XD
@pdcragin33
@pdcragin33 Жыл бұрын
Bought the Xduoo TA 22 after your review and very glad I did, so thank you for that. But S tier experiences would be Schiit Folkvengr and upcoming Mjolnir 3. I thought I was anti-tube because I’ve been an objectivist, ahem, on faith. My faith was misplaced. I’ll be exploring tubes.
@UNSCPILOT
@UNSCPILOT Жыл бұрын
Got a Xduoo MT-602 a couple years ago and learned to love tubes, it's been plugged into my desktop PC's headphones nonstop, really tempted to get the TA-22, but still keep the MT-602 connected somewhere just for giggles to "double tube" something or amplify another piece of equipment. I feel like this is a slippery slope ending in a room full of Tubes XD
@pdcragin33
@pdcragin33 11 ай бұрын
Update. In a moment of inspiration (or perhaps weakness) I bought the APOS matched tubes for this Xduoo TA-22. Eyes sparkling. I don’t lust after the Mjolnir any more. I don’t have a direct comparison of course, but the sense of depth to go along with the already-fine tonality of the 22 stock would be mouth-watering if this were cuisine.
@davidcage2646
@davidcage2646 Жыл бұрын
No liquid spark? Damn, its a fantastic amp for the price, its my go-to budget amp.
@BradSiegler
@BradSiegler 6 ай бұрын
Great content as usual! I've got to ask, where would the WA7 fall in this tier list in your opinion? I'll be testing out the Diana MR and Empyrean II on that amp (along with a few others) and would love to know if it's maybe A or S tier for you. Thanks!!
@josephprakash4475
@josephprakash4475 Жыл бұрын
I'd add the a30pro to A or S tier. For the price and power and form factor. And the Gustard H16 to a low rank. Not a bad amp, just nothing interesting bout it.
@navyelkgaming
@navyelkgaming Жыл бұрын
Nice video appreciate the Tier List Josh :) I own the Schitt Magni/Modi and Magnius/Modius and LOVE THEM!!! You said in the video Magnius/Modius is A teir but notice it is actually listed in S Teir? Do you stand by S Tier? I have Senn. HD 560s, HD58X, Beyerdynamic DT 177x GO, HiFiman HE-4XX and a few others along with some IEMs as well Dunu Vulkan, Dunu Falcon Pros. My Daily drivers are HD 560S and Dunu Vulkans. I do listen to some music but really mainly use it for PC Gaming mostly FPS games and for amazing positional awareness in games, like HUNT Showdown (LOVE IT)!! Would there be any reason for me to go to Topping A90 or A90D from what I have?
@leegill2427
@leegill2427 Жыл бұрын
I have the Topping A30pro & the Sabaj A20d, love both of them, would put them in A tier for sure, love the the styling on the Sabaj, feel better soon and keep doing what you do ;-)
@pk.002
@pk.002 4 ай бұрын
I have the TA-22 and it blows everything else I've used away, from my Schiit Modi/Magni stack, iFi Zen stack, Loxjie P20 with a Qudelix 5k... the list goes on. For me personally, the price to performance and absolutely incredible sound even with the stock tubes can't be beat in the $500 range. It's an S Tier from me imo and highly recommended if you want an all in one unit. Alternatively, TA-20 plus and an SMSL SU-9 DAC are a good combo too.
@damienvalites5455
@damienvalites5455 Жыл бұрын
How come I've never seen you review or "rank" the RME ADI-2 DAC FS?
@Robert-ci6sj
@Robert-ci6sj Жыл бұрын
Same, wrote a comment about it. IMO it's one of the best AMP/DACs around for any price point. I reviewed equipment much more expensive and also A90D, ... the RME is just superior - but of course it is, it's professionell equipment for sound studios and their intention when they created the ADI line wasn't Hifi only - only when they put it in a smaller case but still kept the same sound. This thing is neutral af and the AMP just insane. Pair it with a HD800s and your fucking brain begins zu melt.
@damienvalites5455
@damienvalites5455 Жыл бұрын
@@Robert-ci6sj So you think the headphone amp in the RME ADI-2 DAC FS (the one for $1300) sounds better than the Topping A90D amplifier?
@michaelminke1847
@michaelminke1847 Жыл бұрын
I‘ve just started the audiophile journey with the Topping DX 3pro + & Hifiman HE400se as well as Hifiman Sundara. I’m more than happy at the moment and I‘m curious to discover more within the upcoming months and years. Thx for the great job as well as the for Tier list! That will help for further selections!
@mossie125
@mossie125 Жыл бұрын
Is it really neccessary to get an AMP with the HiFiMan Sundara 2020? The HiFiMan Sundara 2020 has a fairly low impedance of 37 ohms, which means they are not extremely hard to drive. For example, I have onboard Realtek S1200A 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC on my motherboard. Surely that will be enough to drive the headphones?
@Izquierda
@Izquierda Жыл бұрын
The Sony amp is really the best if you're powering any dynamic headphone. Not really a planar guy so it's not really an issue for me, but obviously a limitation as far as those power hungry things are concerned.
@KryssN1
@KryssN1 Ай бұрын
S tier, definitely: - HFM EF400 - Schiit Magni+ - ifi Zen Can Singature - HFM Ef500 - Topping DX3 Pro+ - xDuoo TA22 and TA30 - Schiit Jotunheim 2
@abratskeller
@abratskeller Жыл бұрын
Kinda surprised not to see anything from Chord. I had an EF400 and liked but decided to switch to a Mojo 2 and was much happier. Good video either way!
@davidpilon9433
@davidpilon9433 Жыл бұрын
Under $1000 the Chord Mojo 2 is a game changer
@rahma_dihann
@rahma_dihann Жыл бұрын
really helpful tier list! I'm curious with your opinion about some of dirt cheap amp like Douk U3 and U5, haven't really found a comparison that include this 2 amps.
@HiFiInsider
@HiFiInsider Жыл бұрын
I prefer sound quality over sound quantity. My daily is Sony DMP-Z1 with Diana v2 headphone.
@nikstraub1598
@nikstraub1598 Жыл бұрын
Love to be able to afford that :)
@Thoughtflux
@Thoughtflux Жыл бұрын
So what's this list about? Price to value or sound?
@meaninthemirror
@meaninthemirror Ай бұрын
I'm very happy with my SH-6... excellent dynamics!
@VJA74
@VJA74 Жыл бұрын
Singxer SA1 D and topping A90 S tier??? Man! Hope you get well soon!? 😅
@simonsayshomeassistant
@simonsayshomeassistant 5 ай бұрын
Awesome sound mate, how do you process you audio?
@ptpoul
@ptpoul Жыл бұрын
I feel the focus on power is a bit extreme at times. Some of the amps get criticism for lacking power that only is needed for a handful of headphones. The K7 for instance. For a cheap DAC/amp it is unreasonable to expect it to have power to handle even the most demanding headphones.
@tswfoutsider
@tswfoutsider 7 ай бұрын
I used to feel this way until buying a few Audeze/Hifiman/Dasn Clarke mid/highdisappointment
@ptpoul
@ptpoul 7 ай бұрын
@@tswfoutsider how much does it take to drive what? Just so I can be ready for the future. Saving for a Hifiman Arya Organic for reference.
@tswfoutsider
@tswfoutsider 7 ай бұрын
I learned my lesson buying a tube amp and trying to run 16ohm and 32ohm headphones on it. Nope even in high gain you turn it up to 89% and it is way distorted and not at listenable levels.
@DJaquithFL
@DJaquithFL Жыл бұрын
Just a thought, but you may want to put links to your KZfaq video reviews of each of these headphone amps, especially S tier and A tier. 💡Just saying...
@greatestsportslegends
@greatestsportslegends Ай бұрын
Super curious to know what you think of the ifi zen DAC v2... Especially vs the Topping DX3 Pro+...
@brunis_m
@brunis_m Жыл бұрын
Was hoping to upgrade from my DX3 Pro+ next month, taking advantage of a trip to the US. But having trouble finding something that’s significantly better, which might be a good problem. Thoughts Josh?
@Tidwillshare
@Tidwillshare Жыл бұрын
Dx3pro+ is my newest amp, and Tbh, if you like clean sound, only an A90 or A90d would make sense, or a soloist 3xp. My opinion is that to get a tangible upgrade to the dx3pro+ AS AN AMP you kinda need to go that high, it really is that good. Get something dirtier instead, maybe tubes or something with meatier bass, and it will give you something different for cheaper instead of better for way more money
@qupeter1224
@qupeter1224 Жыл бұрын
if you want a very natural headphones and speakers amp together, my benchmark hpa4 can be a good choice without considering the price. but for a headphone amp only,a90 and a90d is like 90% versions of hpa4 with 1/6 the price
@mattgaunitzmusic
@mattgaunitzmusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the updated list! I’m curious where you think something like a GSX Mini would fall. I’m currently running an A90 and Modius, but am considering upgrading both. I’m looking at the Mini and Schiit Bifrost 2/64, but don’t know if the significant cost would yield a comparable upgrade in quality. Would love your thoughts!
@juanmillaruelo7647
@juanmillaruelo7647 Жыл бұрын
A90 is "S tier". (I've got one myself and can vouch for that)
@101stTank
@101stTank 7 ай бұрын
Stay away from Topping a90d amps. First one after 6 months blew my headphone driver out. Second one gave me -5 error code after 2 months. Switched brand after that shit.
@ecstasy5317
@ecstasy5317 Жыл бұрын
Josh I think to me the Mal Valve Head Amp MK-IV would be an excellent choice on the S-tier list. It is one of the few headphone amps that is designed to accommodate both electrostatic and dynamic type headphones in one chassis and enough connections (for most) to enhance your musical enjoyment.
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 8 ай бұрын
really nowadays with fast internet and all everything is alot easier
@Jamie-666
@Jamie-666 Жыл бұрын
Note that the Darkvoice is based on a decades old design so the TA-26 isn't really a rip-off.
@ThinkDoTA
@ThinkDoTA Жыл бұрын
SA-1 straight to D tier while A90 in S tier 🤣. Well sold my A90 long time ago, cant stand its cold and piercing sound from this amp...
@steven2640
@steven2640 Жыл бұрын
Schiit Jotunheim 2. If only you could shut the headphone output off in the front or the back for that matter when you output to speakers it could be between an A and S. I heard something about it being that way for people who want to use subwoofers, but really? This is a damn headphone amplifier. Don't want to wear out my 4-pin XLR connector because I constantly go from headphone to desktop monitors.
@KingdomKey57
@KingdomKey57 Жыл бұрын
Their Rag 2 is the same way btw. I have both the Rag 2 for my Floor standing speakers and the Jot 2 for my headphones. I just turn off the sub at this point haha. If I could go back I would have never bought the Rag 2. Hegel H190 is so much stronger and on sale isn't horribly expensive
@mindbendernine
@mindbendernine 17 күн бұрын
I came here ready to brace myself for some Topping-biased p[references... and this was a very fair review. JV pointed out valid points (e.g. not enough power, sound quality could be better, etc.) and I'm impressed with his rankings. I bought my Arya hp's based on JV's recommendation, so thanks for this video!
@zNeroba
@zNeroba 11 ай бұрын
I don't know anything about audio. But the audio that comes out of my pc. Not only for music, but also for social networks and games its horrible. What AMP do you recommend for this case? I was thinking that Fiio K7 might be a good option. I read you guys. Great video!
@coltonbardy9067
@coltonbardy9067 Жыл бұрын
How would the IFI Zen Dac 2 compare? I know it is a DAC/AMP combo but how would it rank compared to these on the list?
@joseluishernandezseptien
@joseluishernandezseptien Жыл бұрын
I hope you feel better soon! Unfortunately this list is as good as buying cheap lenses that a manufacturer in China made for your expensive Sony and Canon cameras. It might work but it won’t give you the quality that matches their performance.
@mtnmankeith9069
@mtnmankeith9069 Жыл бұрын
Mojo 2 is my top amp/dac that I’ve heard. The eq and versatility is amazing. F tier would be smsl vmv a1. The headphone out is terrible.
@Aaron-qz6pc
@Aaron-qz6pc 11 ай бұрын
Please use segments! That would make your videos so much more accessible..
@shirakawamaseru
@shirakawamaseru Жыл бұрын
The TA-ZH1ES can drive every Headphone that exists currently right now to well above 100db and it is not getting S-Tier because it does not have enough power. It has 1300mW on 32 Ohms... that is enough to destroy most headhpones. You could easily destroy 10 IEMs simultaniously with that power. It has barely enough power to drive Sonys own Heapdhones, the MDR-Z1R? It can drive the MDR-Z1R, on balanced, to 128db. Nobody will ever listen at that volume to this headphone. This is enough to make you faint. It can also drive the Hifiman Susvara to 111db on balanced. I highly disagree that the TA-ZH1ES doesn't have enough power. I do own it, i have it here and it can drive everything.
@Ender8Official
@Ender8Official Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload Joshua! Could you review the zoom UAC-2?
@WyattOShea
@WyattOShea Жыл бұрын
Glad one of my amps made it to s tier :P (topping dx3 pro +).
@marksalamon619
@marksalamon619 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this list! I'm Mr. Frugal, so I'm naturally inclined to choose the S.M.S.L. SH-6 as my favorite since it's the least expensive S-tier amp.
@phb8462
@phb8462 Жыл бұрын
Where would you rank the SMSL C200?
@dario4496
@dario4496 Жыл бұрын
I really apriciate that you have linked every product in the description :) Keep up the great work 😊
@ZWortek
@ZWortek Жыл бұрын
I bought the SH-6 and SU-6 based on your recommendation a year or so ago and I love them.
@pedrosanciny6345
@pedrosanciny6345 8 ай бұрын
Hello Mr. Valour. Please, I have question. Can Topping DX1 theoretically damage Tygr 300 R when maxed out?
@AZREDFERN
@AZREDFERN Жыл бұрын
My S-Tier: Schiit Jotunheim. My F-Tier: Sennheiser GSX 1200 Pro. The Jotunheim just checked all the boxes for me. The GSX 1200 has a great interface, and it’s eye candy. But it has 0 power, most of it’s features are useless, and USB 2.0 means microphone quality suffers and is limited to phone quality.
@BarneyTheDinosaur99
@BarneyTheDinosaur99 Жыл бұрын
I have the chance to get Topping A90 for $300, but still dont have the DAC. What DAC do you recommend to be paired with Topping A90 with price around $200 max?
@ricardoarchangel28
@ricardoarchangel28 Жыл бұрын
I have the Topping DX3 Pro + and its been great for my everyday use. You are right for a couple of hundred bucks its hard to beat what it offers. One day I hope to afford a higher price one but I'm just starting off.
@rainasong8712
@rainasong8712 7 ай бұрын
I have the same DAC and another higher end DAC and don't hear a difference.
@lmcteo
@lmcteo Жыл бұрын
I was a bit disappointed xduoo mt-604 was not included. Would love to know how it compares to ta-22 if it's worth it to get an all in one vs. separate dac and amp
@smokesandalloy9487
@smokesandalloy9487 Жыл бұрын
Separate dac and amp would be more versatile. I have the mt-602 and ta26s. Both are nice. mt604 would be great for balanced, but tube rolling gets to be more of a pain with 4. Basically, you may want to try other dacs with your tube amp, and then a built in dac may also go out of style before too long. Separate amps are more resistant to tech advancements and obsolescence
@reeepicheep
@reeepicheep Жыл бұрын
MT-604 is missing from this list. A tier!
@GalacticTommy
@GalacticTommy Жыл бұрын
Thank you this came in perfect timing!!
@hogibunz834
@hogibunz834 Жыл бұрын
Planning on getting a pair of HD 6XX. Entertaining level enthusiast wanting to get into the hobby. Do you think it would be better to buy a Topping DX3 Pro +, or a Schiit Magni paired with a Schiit Modi+. Both around the same price. What would you recommend…
@GrainOnTheGo
@GrainOnTheGo 3 ай бұрын
Why do you go so hard on the XA-10? It’s just a lower cost slightly less crisp A30 stack with balance and extreme power?
@ToysForTheGods
@ToysForTheGods Жыл бұрын
was really suprised to see the Singxer so low on the list. I have a THX 789, a Aune X1s, and a Xduo MT-604, and I heard the Singxer in comparison to them as a friend brought it over and I felt it sounded better than anything I owned. Maybe I am crazy, or maybe his was just built on a Wednesday I don't know but I have been considering ordering one. Now I want to hear one compared to the A90D side by side. I just liked how warm the Singxer sounded
@joelcutinho2020
@joelcutinho2020 Жыл бұрын
Its a very subjective list, i own the singxer and for the price its really very good (i can only think of rebelamp outclassing it). I purchased both singxer and a90d and compared them everyday side by side, ended up returning the a90d as it sounded extremely sterile, lifeless and devoid of any soul/joy to my ears. Singxer is warmer, but not overly warm that it makes everything dull, I personally like that middle ground.
@ToysForTheGods
@ToysForTheGods Жыл бұрын
@@joelcutinho2020 thank you for the reply. I have never heard a Rebelamp but they sure look nice. I felt the same way about the Singxer as I feel that the THX amps are very sterile.
@joelcutinho2020
@joelcutinho2020 Жыл бұрын
@@ToysForTheGods Welcome. I havent listened to the rebel too, but only heard good things about it, some of them being it is warmer than singxer. As for the singxer, it feels like the perfect entry point (other than rebel if u want an even warmer sound) for achieving class A/AB topology and its inherent advantages.
@amichaelhemingway
@amichaelhemingway Жыл бұрын
That intro! Lol I had to replay it like 4 times cuz I was like, “Did he… did he just say my name?” 😂 P.S. I liked the video… I better not see you in my dreams 😅
@aidencoder
@aidencoder Жыл бұрын
Just came to see my A90/D90 in S-tier. Wasn't disappointed
@random_ramblings
@random_ramblings Жыл бұрын
Hi Josh, nice up! What's your tier ranking for Gustard H16? Just curious. Thanks!
@SPLWF
@SPLWF Жыл бұрын
How come no mention of the AMP that was the one to get? Massdrop/Drop AAA 789?
@sy0635
@sy0635 Жыл бұрын
Because it’s obsolete now. For its price you have many better options
@h4tch3tt74
@h4tch3tt74 6 ай бұрын
​@@sy0635 the 789 has a passthrough that is invaluable in my set up. Literally nothing in this video had one. So 789 still unbeaten for me. Not to forget it started the whole 0 distortion thing. I literally haven't desired another amp since I got the 789.
@billpaxton1345
@billpaxton1345 Жыл бұрын
whats the opinion of the topping l30 ii? better than the smsl sh 6? im having a hell of a hard time finding any answers
@HiFilurar
@HiFilurar Жыл бұрын
Surprised by how you put Sinxger SA-1 saying it's "not the most clean" which is funny since it's one of the cleanest ever measured by ASR. Other than that, thanks for this list. It is helpful.
@khunter2132
@khunter2132 Жыл бұрын
I was shocked by that too, but I remember Josh didnt like the SA-1 in the first place. I have one and I really like it.
@danieljohnson6370
@danieljohnson6370 Жыл бұрын
Could it be QA issues? I have no experience with it, but the community response sounds awfully polar
@alphaniner3770
@alphaniner3770 Жыл бұрын
He is obviously free to make his own list. I had a Topping A90 and a Singxer SA-1 at the same time. Superficially the Topping sounded better, but after a while the sound started to annoy me - too 'try hard' / couldn't listen to it more than half an hour. Sold it. I kept the Singxer.
@chronicmayhem
@chronicmayhem 8 ай бұрын
The Zen air and Uno are $20 apart, which do you suggest between the two? I use Sennheiser 560s And 58x, and mostly game and watch videos.
@jackjack4300
@jackjack4300 5 ай бұрын
What do you think of "XDUOO XD05 Pro Portable Full Balanced DAC Headphone Amplifier Double Screen 4.4 Balanced USB XMOS XU316 AMP Decoder" and how would you rank it. And is "SENNHEISER HD 820 Over-the-Ear Audiophile Reference Headphones" a good match for the XDUOO? Thank you.
@Kipacus
@Kipacus 7 күн бұрын
Just bought Schiit Magni Modi stack today, and I'm getting a really horrible buzzing/tapping sound out of the Left earcup when the volume knob is above 40 percent on low gain. Higher the gain the worse it gets where I cant hear audio over it. Really not happy with Schiit Products at the moment.
@hakan7346
@hakan7346 Жыл бұрын
Did you stick that smsl on your wall brooo??
@skeza2496
@skeza2496 Жыл бұрын
Why is the JDS element just not talked about?
@darraghchristie9558
@darraghchristie9558 Жыл бұрын
Hey Josh. A few months ago you mentioned you were working on a video on gaming audio. Did I miss that, or did it just not come to fruition?
@Tkarma77
@Tkarma77 Жыл бұрын
I watch this guy the odd time but almost never agree.. that's the beauty of music . If watching take with a pinch . My fav amps are singxer sa1 and ta 26. Topping etc so linear and boring. I used the try and get the most neutral clean sounding powerful amp until I realised I wasn't enjoying the actual music with this gear.. on another note fiio k9 pro sounds great had 2 both failed within months of purchase
@chrisk3127
@chrisk3127 Жыл бұрын
S- A90D, features, power and is clean without being as sterile as the OG A90 F- TBH don't think I've experienced an F personally but one of my friends uses a Focusrite audio interface that supposedly sounds awful
@Smitty-op4ld
@Smitty-op4ld 9 ай бұрын
The Sennheiser is not for enjoying music. It's for mastering music. It's supposed to increase the volume with as close to zero coloring of the music as possible. It should should as close to exactly as the the music that enters is with very little noise and no change to the EQ so it should sound very very plain, flat, bland. That's what I'm trying to find. flat amplification.
@eddy22b62
@eddy22b62 3 ай бұрын
Do you NEED a dac as well? Only a few options are a combo, the rest seem to be amps with the option of adding a dac. Looking to get some dt 990 pros
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