An experience like no other! Getting technical with the SYNG Cell Alpha.

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Unfortunately, due to the fact that these units calibrate themselves to a room upon boot up and there is no way to bypass it (as confirmed by their engineers), there was no way for me to test it like I normally do. And it wasn’t for lack of trying. I discuss this in the video. However, I did provide some in-situ measurements along with binaural demos of steering the sound field.
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@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын

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@f1shb0n3d 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to see such interesting innovation in speaker design, going beyond "the box" and including microphones for self-calibration. I hope they go in the direction you suggested with EQ support, but also implement listener position microphone calibration with custom target curves, this could resolve the uneven tonality issues and allow personalization to taste.

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын

Well said!

@FOH3663 2 жыл бұрын

That interview with Beth would made for interesting content. Loudspeaker designer interviews are just gold... deeper the better too.

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@Darkcruzer23 2 жыл бұрын

those things are awesome and im so glad you shared them with us

@ShamuXEagleDriver 2 жыл бұрын

Erin, Your "Space Mtn" t-shirt is the perfect attire for reviewing this other worldly speaker design, LMAO. 😆

@thomsshea 2 жыл бұрын

This is an excellent video, I saw Joe's video which was also good, but your video that shows the drivers, and has more detail on the internals is really fantastic. Plus you have 2, and Joe only had one, so the review of how they work as a pair is important. This is clearly a very very upper end lifestyle product. In the right space, they'd be sooooo sick!

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Joe's a buddy of mine and he should be getting more in to review as a full set. SYNG didn't send out many in their initial review period.

@81Nightro Жыл бұрын

First who used this bass technalogy was Bowers&Wilkins with PV1 subwoofer. after Bang&Olufsen with Beolab 11 and then Beolab 19

@GadgetyMV 2 жыл бұрын

Erin, you are one of the best reviewers out there. No-nonsense, know your stuff (and Klippel) and present really well. I really want to hear the Cyngs, preferably a trio as it potentially could enable not only multiple sub, but DBA. Would you know if they have DBA programming as well as multisub? The other thing I'm really curious about is the woofers being mounted up and down-firing. I've been exploring to mount mine like that but the general consensus seems to be that gravity will "unlinearize" the response over time. The sagging will have different effect on the one pointing up to the one pointing down. As you know the coil offset will be effected, bringing BL asymmetry, and over calendar time distortion. What are your views on this, and was it something you discussed with Cyng? Perhaps the fact that these are small drivers will mitigate the effect?

@IrenESorius 2 жыл бұрын

Cool. 😎 Thanks Erin,, ⭐.

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@normanham6142 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting concept I must agree. I’d love to try them, but outside my budget. I’m old. I’m rusty. We have advanced technologically at warp speed. They seem cool. 👍🏼😎

@dripcheghxulium4545 2 жыл бұрын

I Like The Fact That You Actually Have The Woofers In Hand

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын

Yea, it was cool of them to send me the drivers for show and tell.

@pudeyan Жыл бұрын

Oh, I thought you figured out how to disassemble them😅 I have weird distortion on one of the sides of the triphone, so was wondering if it's due to bad assembly, but it doesn't look very diy fix friendly at all🙁

@stevenswall 2 жыл бұрын

Even if anechoic measurements aren't possible, the compression and distortion tests in the written review will be great... If it can do what it claims, maybe I'll have to price out this system vs expanding my Genelec 8260 system.

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын

You’re right. I didn’t even think about it because I was so invested in the binaural demos and being bummed I could get anechoic measurements. I’ve already boxed them up to send back. The best I can do is to say that when I had 3 in my living room, I was getting about 102dB output at my MLP. The three were with two in front (at about 4m) and one to the right about 3m.

@abdo-dr1tu 2 жыл бұрын

I hope you can get a hold of the Sony HT-8 since it does pretty much what you said except the cardioid stuff.

@brucermarino 2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating review! Would a large anechoic chamber allow the testing of ultimate capabilities? Thanks again!

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын

I took it outside and “calibrated” it for ground plane, but even then, the results on the NFS had enough EQ and spatial corrections that I think it would have been more misleading.

@brucermarino 2 жыл бұрын

@@ErinsAudioCorner I rather thought you would have tried something like this. Your insight knowledge and thoroughness are appreciated! I wonder what percentage of speaker and what percentage of EQ were listening to? Thanks again!

@word2RG 2 жыл бұрын

thanks Eryn, wish there was a vocal music demo, though.

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын

I wish I could provide music or movie demos but KZfaq hammers those and I don’t want to get a copyright infraction (3 and your channel gets deleted) so I don’t even try it.

@word2RG 2 жыл бұрын

@@ErinsAudioCorner theres some copyright free music that would work

@RXP91 8 ай бұрын

What Spl does it get at belowv40hz. Impressive it can dive down so low. The home pod 2 gets low to 30hz but only at 80db. Still impressive for such a tiny design on the HomePod. Huge xmax with computational distortion management

@josegazal701 2 жыл бұрын

If you are going this deep in DSP, you need to review next the Bacch4Mac. 😁

@mysock351C 2 жыл бұрын

I was going to say you could cheat and feed it periodic pink noise to see the response in the time domain, but I don't think its available in REW. ARTA does it if I recall, but the plots and data are a bit more on a budget by comparison. Not as nice and informative. That and the DSP processing may destroy the timing information in the signal. Sucks cause that's the first thing I wanted to know! Oh well... On a similar note it would be cool to get my hands on something like an Sennheiser Ambeo Soundbar. Be really interesting to see how they process the direct and reflected sound to achieve the spatial imaging, and even from the sound demos it seems to work like it should.

@yayhoo8848 2 жыл бұрын

Speaker UFO! Boop Beep Boop Boop Boooooop!

@AudriusN 8 ай бұрын

They are like Homepods on steroids, there are similarities in how they work. I've read that one of the founders was working at Apple.

@thatchinaboi1 2 жыл бұрын

Which Binaural Microphone are you using? I HIGHLY recommend the Sonic Presence SP15. From my personal and very thorough testing, the SP15 is PERFECTLY FLAT. I was astonished to say the least. Together with the Sennheiser HD400 Pro/HD 560s it provides extremely accurate binaural reproduction. I also personally tested the HD400 Pro and discovered that they are PERFECTLY FLAT to the human ear (Equal Loudness Contour) at 85dB SPL reference. Additionally, the angled transducers of the HD400 Pro/HD 560s provides a natural and accurate reproduction of the soundstage and imaging. Perfectly flat microphone with perfectly flat headphones = accurate reproduction (provided you are not boosting or attenuating the level of the reproduction relative to the actual source).

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын

I’m using those.

@thatchinaboi1 2 жыл бұрын

@@ErinsAudioCorner Did you test them to see how flat they are? From my own testing, they are perfectly flat. At least my pair. I assume unit variances to be minimized.

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын

@@thatchinaboi1 how did you test them? Do you have a proper head model for measuring? Is it calibrated?

@thatchinaboi1 2 жыл бұрын

@@ErinsAudioCorner I used my very experienced audio engineer ears and a bit of logical deduction by comparing the reproduction with the source. After carefully examining several songs that I am very familiar with in terms of FR, I discovered that the perceived FR of the SP15 together with the Sennheiser HD400 Pro is identical to the source (coming from my speaker setup). Due to this I deduce that the SP15 must be perfectly flat, since I also discovered the Sennheiser HD400 Pros to PERFECTLY CONFORM to the Equal Loudness Contour at 83-85 dB SPL.

@thatchinaboi1 2 жыл бұрын

@@ErinsAudioCorner I initially expected some deviation by assuming that the SP15 is NOT perfectly flat. But to my surprise, I was wrong. If the perceived FR of the reproduction is identical to the source then that most likely means the SP15 is PERFECTLY FLAT (electronically) while the Sennheiser HD400 Pro is PERFECTLY FLAT (to the human ear) at 83-85 dB SPL reference.

@Azzy_Mazzy 2 жыл бұрын

could they replace a home theater system?

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын

For me, no. They just don't fit the "lifestyle" of my home theater room. But I think if you're remotely considering it, then you should try them. They're quite a departure from the "norm" but in a really cool way.

@Audio_Simon 2 жыл бұрын

Can you tell us the full name/s of the engineers? If they did a good job they deserve to be recognised :)

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын

I only spoke with one and that was Elisabeth McMullin.

@Audio_Simon 2 жыл бұрын

@@ErinsAudioCorner Thanks for the cool design Elisabeth! It would be cool to hear about product design challenges on an item like this - far from standard. I bet there were constraints but at the same time some serious acoustics ability! - parts that had to be custom made due to other constraints, or parts that relied on DSP from the start?

@andreemilsen369 2 жыл бұрын

Wonder how this would sound in a comlpete theatre setup🤔 Some other heightchannels though, but 6 of these at bade level, and a couple of 24" subs for the lfe🙊

@timothyallen2862 Жыл бұрын

Bitchen review Erin! Thanks.

@bluematrix5001 9 ай бұрын

nobody talk about their integration as a real Dolby atmos system....

@stevenswall 2 жыл бұрын

If you had to be an extremist, would you say neo magnets make everything else look like trash when it comes to magnetic field strength vs volume, strength vs weight, and overall not being a wretched engineer? I don't see the point in many subwoofers of having a heavier magnet. I'd rather have them easier to handle... Just brace the box properly and have dual opposing woofers and things could be a little smaller and lighter with the same performance on multi-thousand dollar subs. Nice to see a new company not just using legacy materials and ultra-archaic engineering in new speakers.

@FSXgta 2 жыл бұрын

The main thing is the cost, neo magnets costs more. If you are fine with that you can build your DIY subs to your desired spec

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын

Weight it one aspect. But in terms of performance, a neo magnet can also be useful for its size; it won’t block the backside of the speaker like a larger ferrite magnet would. This is especially important for small midrange drivers.

@thatchinaboi1 2 жыл бұрын

I was disappointed at the Binaural Demo. I expected you to play some actual music and show us how the staging and imaging changes with the app. It is very difficult to demonstrate it using only pink noise. Please consider putting out a Binaural Demo with music.

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын

Understood. But copyright issues concern me. Personally, I find it much easier to hear changes via PN.