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23 күн бұрын

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@LoomYgo
@LoomYgo 10 күн бұрын
Hey guys, if you are interested in seeing more story/documentary style content like this one I've made a playlist of this series on my channel, feel free to check it out! kzfaq.info/sun/PL1nNPQqvbgabWMZpqDr_lBygup5zdwLjN
@o2Tenka
@o2Tenka 17 күн бұрын
5:49 "Never allowing his opponent a moment to actually to play the game" Yup, sounds like YGO
@Itachihun14
@Itachihun14 15 күн бұрын
Better looking solitaire
@viktorgabriel2554
@viktorgabriel2554 14 күн бұрын
yhea that is pretty much how modern YuGiOh works
@ryuaga
@ryuaga 14 күн бұрын
Truthfully, that's when you know a game is trash. Needs to be reworked from scratch.
@dieguy3080
@dieguy3080 13 күн бұрын
That is the optimal way to win in card games.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 13 күн бұрын
@@ryuaga I feel if it wasn't for Duel Links actually being playable, it probably would. Rush duel seems to literally exist for that reason too. They have to pretty much ban half of the cards playable, but lately they keep introducing new power creep decks that exist for the sole purpose of getting whales to dump on them for local tournaments and resell value, only to then ban the key combo pieces to make the game actually playable again until the next wave of cards repeats that. Like Zoodiacs, Spyrals, Sprights, Halcyfibrax, Tearlaments (arguably the worst offender as it seemed to be designed to be an OP deck due to the lack of counterplay as it's a mill strategy), and now the purrely (though at least they're adorable). and every deck list is built entirely around how to beat the current meta deck rather than strategy.
@Slayerthecrow
@Slayerthecrow 22 күн бұрын
Is not about the money, is about sending a message.
@monkey_blu
@monkey_blu 22 күн бұрын
And it worked.
@exterminateparasites3185
@exterminateparasites3185 21 күн бұрын
That's what i say,when someone tells me "It literally cost $0 dollars to not say the N word"
@renamamiya8092
@renamamiya8092 20 күн бұрын
@@exterminateparasites3185💀
@G0L0V0L0MKEE
@G0L0V0L0MKEE 19 күн бұрын
@@exterminateparasites3185 DUDE 'N W0RD' L0L C0WARDLY THEN AGAIN Y0U IS LUBE-FAN
@mrexists5400
@mrexists5400 18 күн бұрын
The message being "The card ban list isn't long enough."
@valleyard8674
@valleyard8674 21 күн бұрын
"Nah bro, 43 minutes, and a few seconds... But hey, who's counting?" * Looks at the judge * "Oh yeah, true"
@mogrem8635
@mogrem8635 22 күн бұрын
Back in the days I worked as a judge quite frequently. Long before that event, we discussed the issue in a jugde group as we knew someone was about to find that loophole and exploit it. We eagerly built decks, talked about the strategy and that Self-Destruct Button was about to be banned as soon as someone utilised it. However, being judges ourselves we knew that playing the deck without stalling was barely possible. None of us wanted to risk a DQ and a subsequent ban for playing a meme and showing Konami a problematic loophole. Thanks to Mero who ultimately had the guts to take one for the team.
@saltyk9869
@saltyk9869 21 күн бұрын
That’s the background of the giant deck as I recall. The deck was built to be annoying and require constant shuffling. All just to show Konami that they needed a max size on decks.
@mogrem8635
@mogrem8635 21 күн бұрын
@@saltyk9869 Yeah, similar. I personally know the two guys who did that. I believe one of them was part of our Self-Destruct crew.
@camilomarchesi1793
@camilomarchesi1793 20 күн бұрын
Now we need a person to show how garbo yugioh has become with his 300 specials and 300 ngates per turn its like watching a self destruct button all over again
@kingofgrim4761
@kingofgrim4761 20 күн бұрын
@@camilomarchesi1793not even close to the same thing 😅
@nathanielbass771
@nathanielbass771 20 күн бұрын
@@kingofgrim4761 they had to ban Maxx "C" because the average draw counter was about 20... that's how many special summons they get. Heck, i'm wanting to build a deck that causes the opponent damage based upon their summons XD but sadly, it's difficult to make decks because almost everything is in the first-turn player's favor. If you don't draw your hand traps, you basically lose.
@magetsalive5162
@magetsalive5162 18 күн бұрын
"Why are we still here? Just to suffer?" "You, maybe. I'm having a grand old time."
@ryanmann5497
@ryanmann5497 19 күн бұрын
Man didn’t just want to win, he wanted to break his opponent 😂
@codyhanson1344
@codyhanson1344 18 күн бұрын
or he was just a budget player who didn't want to take any chances
@solidsnakeandgrayfox
@solidsnakeandgrayfox 17 күн бұрын
​@codyhanson1344 nah, that's a troll deck. In legacy of the duelist, I use a triverr deck satellarknight and it revolves around bringing him out multiple times per turn and forcing them to discard shit and then for shits and giggles I threw the gods in there.
@thedudecalledalan9095
@thedudecalledalan9095 15 күн бұрын
I thought he lost He made his op lose 500 He gained 500 Then he drawed a card that made his op gain 1,000 So his op should be 500 lp above him
@Illianor123
@Illianor123 15 күн бұрын
@@thedudecalledalan9095 That would be a draw. I gain 500 and you lose 500 is a 1,000 lp difference, so opponent gaining a 1,000 would be equal lp. I imagine in the video it didn't cover all the cards. he may have played somethig different or something else as well but the video cut it for time/dramatics.
@thedudecalledalan9095
@thedudecalledalan9095 15 күн бұрын
@@Illianor123 always did forget a number when doing math Thanks
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 21 күн бұрын
Nowadays, Self-Destruct Button is forbidden and Inspection has a soft once per turn errata
@PurpleRupees
@PurpleRupees 19 күн бұрын
what does soft once per turn mean?
@if7723
@if7723 19 күн бұрын
​@@PurpleRupeesyou can use the card once per turn, but if you have multiples you can use them. Instead of a hard once per turn where it doesn't matter how many copies you have you can't use it a second time
@segajennis2305
@segajennis2305 19 күн бұрын
The most recent card text nor the database mention a OPT restriction on Inspection.
@SuperSayianWarrior
@SuperSayianWarrior 18 күн бұрын
​@if7723 No official source has it as a OPT effect
@adamxue6096
@adamxue6096 18 күн бұрын
@@segajennis2305 Actually, they are both right and wrong The thing about Inspection is that it can be used once during each of your opponents standby phase, so it's not a normal soft OPT You have to go and check the konami data base which in japanese reads like "It can be activated once each time during your opponents standby phase" No idea why this is the case, but here you go
@aaronjohnquianio5644
@aaronjohnquianio5644 22 күн бұрын
Bro didn't care if he would win/lose lmao
@doomedbringer
@doomedbringer 20 күн бұрын
That’s what whales hate, not being able to flaunt their money, and it’s hilarious
@joba9429
@joba9429 18 күн бұрын
Because in his heart he knew he'd draw
@doomedbringer
@doomedbringer 18 күн бұрын
@@joba9429 nah, it had to be purely to anger the whales with their thousand dollar decks... not letting them play a single card
@12IrateGamerFan21
@12IrateGamerFan21 7 күн бұрын
... it's about sending a message - The Joker
@claraladuelliste5769
@claraladuelliste5769 21 күн бұрын
"Actually it was 53 minutes" lmaoooo
@theruleroftheinternet8260
@theruleroftheinternet8260 21 күн бұрын
I feel like the purpose of self destruct button is to give you a extra chance to win the next game in a match. It's supposed to be a I'll live to die another day kinda card. But it became a we're here just to suffer kinda card
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 21 күн бұрын
I agree. Unfortunately it was a poorly designed card that was ripe for abuse.
@Gaia_BentosZX5
@Gaia_BentosZX5 20 күн бұрын
@@williamdrum9899 Just like Ring of Magnetism, an equip spell card when paired with the right monster cards, can create devastating results. Sonic Chick is one such annoying combination, even moreso in a 2-v-2 match when you and a friend could just gang up on one opponent at a goodwill of all places.
@ReigoVassal
@ReigoVassal 18 күн бұрын
I think it's one of the "experiment" card. A "what if we made this kind of card"
@Goiaba308
@Goiaba308 18 күн бұрын
Ehh. In Yu GI oh, you don't want to put multiple functions like that, because you will lose speed. You have a self destruct button, but now your deck is much more likely to jam. Specially because to use it well, you will need other cards to help it. The card is just dumb
@eiyukabe
@eiyukabe 18 күн бұрын
Any card that's basically its own win condition (or I guess draw condition in this case) risks going this route.
@aetheralmeowstic2392
@aetheralmeowstic2392 20 күн бұрын
I activate Inspection I activate Inspection I activate Inspection I activate Inspection I activate Inspection ...
@einstein951
@einstein951 16 күн бұрын
Inspection? Inspection? Inspection? Inspection? Inspection. Inspection. Inspection!
@mortzy2149
@mortzy2149 15 күн бұрын
*After the 6th time, with 8 more to go* "Please, there's nothing left to inspect :("
@cyan_wings5420
@cyan_wings5420 15 күн бұрын
"To summon: POT OF GREED!!!!"
@jaye4157
@jaye4157 14 күн бұрын
Draw monster cardo!
@veradux5580
@veradux5580 Күн бұрын
Hey do you mind if I Inspect ya gadgets?
@jasonjellie9342
@jasonjellie9342 19 күн бұрын
Game 1: "Screw your deck i have mst" *proceeds to not use mst *
@capricous7196
@capricous7196 14 күн бұрын
What if the bluffs he set is not just bluffs something that could prevent battle damage for example
@jasonjellie9342
@jasonjellie9342 14 күн бұрын
I agree, but with a op card like mst, heres no ned to bluff. Theres no reason not use it
@JaffetChacon
@JaffetChacon 9 күн бұрын
opponent had multiple times to chain MST and each time he was like, "bro I'm putting on my clown make up"
@literallyalois2966
@literallyalois2966 19 күн бұрын
He knew he had no chance playing the opponent's game...... SO HE JUST PLAYED HIS OWN. 😂
@poporikishin4922
@poporikishin4922 17 күн бұрын
I was imagining the ace attorney game Player:INSPECTION!! Opponent:HOLD IT!!! Judge: seems legit. Player: show self destruct This continue until opponent breaks
@dr_levitating8801
@dr_levitating8801 17 күн бұрын
he was basically playing modern yugioh in 2008
@ClaudioVarone3299
@ClaudioVarone3299 14 күн бұрын
Like in 2002/03
@vmpmew
@vmpmew 13 күн бұрын
@@ClaudioVarone3299the video quite literally said it was in 2008
@machina5
@machina5 12 күн бұрын
​@@ClaudioVarone3299 Forget reading, this Yu-Gi-Oh player can't even listen
@hoshi314
@hoshi314 20 күн бұрын
In the OCG this card is not banned. Very recently in the Indonesian scene that this card is starting to make trouble played by the most obnoxious stall decks
@Mernom
@Mernom 19 күн бұрын
The mindset difference between the formats is really interesting. I wonder how well a player from one format can do vs a player from the other, if each player can keep their banlist.
@hoshi314
@hoshi314 19 күн бұрын
@@Mernom i think it's unlimited the same way as catapult turtle, they forgot about it. The story goes in a ranked match in Bali someone self destructed the whole match and with the new OCG tournament rules this means double loss if all is draw even on game 3.
@Shrimp4Gura
@Shrimp4Gura 19 күн бұрын
Its not banned, but in big tournaments, they basically house rule a few cards, another being Rainbow Life to cut down on stalling
@maridiancrest243
@maridiancrest243 13 күн бұрын
It shouldnt even be considered for a ban. A single MST stops the whole thing. Its your own fault as a duelist if you dont tech for rougue decks or stall. Otherwise why wouldnt you just ban everything that isnt meta
@Mernom
@Mernom 13 күн бұрын
@@maridiancrest243 doesn't matter - cards that promote toxic play should not be in the game, at least not without an errata that plugs the loop hole.
@sasu1190
@sasu1190 21 күн бұрын
bro will regret that mst for the rest of his life
@blazingbarreljay137
@blazingbarreljay137 22 күн бұрын
True meaning of "it doesn't matter if you win or lose, it's how you play the game"
@blazingbarreljay137
@blazingbarreljay137 21 күн бұрын
This is seriously what deck imagine Wario and Waluigi using if they got one but with bombomb art
@blastchaos4286
@blastchaos4286 20 күн бұрын
Kind of ironic considering the deck was literally built as a surefire way to win
@blazingbarreljay137
@blazingbarreljay137 20 күн бұрын
@@blastchaos4286 using the nuke button to win and psych games is genius
@codyhanson1344
@codyhanson1344 18 күн бұрын
@@blastchaos4286 exactly. This is an absolute stupid and toxic way to play the game, but an easy way to win. Would only come up in a competitive setting, assuming the person using it isn't a complete asshole
@deathsaidhello
@deathsaidhello 15 күн бұрын
@@codyhanson1344 currently in high ranks on master duel with a Yata-Lock deck in the Lair of Darkness build. Darkest Diabolos to take cards out of hand and Yata to keep them out. Usually wins turn 3 if i go second, CAN win turn 1 if i go first. It is hilarious to know the enemy thinks me not hitting their LP is fucked up. I enjoy making people FF out of frustration. Can't play if you dont have cards in your hand :) Also have a Yata-777 deck that utilizes the Kashtira lvl 7 monsters, the lvl 7 spirit monster Yamata Dragon and Supermagic Sword of Raptinus. I get free banishments, a FULL hand draw every round, i get to lock you out of drawing and if that wasnt enough i run 2 Earthshattering Events. You dont get to play my game. SOUL RESONATOR is a god send for these decks. The extra deck on both is also maxed. I WILL summon on your ass if you get a chance to play.
@t3rcx
@t3rcx 19 күн бұрын
IIRC, there was a head admin of the old Dueling Network site that got trapped in a match because the opponent was running Self Destruct Button. It ended up with like 10 admins all in the room trying to decide what to do because the match had already been going for over an hour with way too many games played. I don't remember who made the final call, but ultimately the game was canceled so that the players could actually leave.
@FleetAdmirable
@FleetAdmirable 14 күн бұрын
just turn off your computer lmao dummies
@Muhahahahaz
@Muhahahahaz 14 күн бұрын
Omg, that’s so funny 😂
@golemqueen1988
@golemqueen1988 14 күн бұрын
meanwhile i have normal matches that just go over an hour sometimes
@literal-tree
@literal-tree 12 күн бұрын
i mean you can always scoop :)
@sqfzerzefsdf
@sqfzerzefsdf 11 күн бұрын
@t3rcx meanwhile modern dueling network: I don't like what you're doing and since I'm the judge you get a match loss
@redfoxsoul9331
@redfoxsoul9331 20 күн бұрын
that only goes to show that no, synchros didn't break the game, neither did pendulums It was always broken from the very start
@orga7777
@orga7777 20 күн бұрын
Pretty much. Magical Scientist FTK was in 2003. The game was always a mess.
@camilomarchesi1793
@camilomarchesi1793 20 күн бұрын
At least it was playable back then now everyone sets their board with bunch of interrumptions and negates its like a ftk with the illusion that is your turn
@orga7777
@orga7777 20 күн бұрын
@@camilomarchesi1793 It has always been like that. My first locals was me getting Yata Locked out of existence during Chaos Format in 2004.
@codyhanson1344
@codyhanson1344 18 күн бұрын
The difference is, the brokenness really only appeared in more competitive settings or with abnormally gimmicky decks, but the average casual matchup was much more laid back than that of the modern age by miles
@Nyxian_Rosa
@Nyxian_Rosa 18 күн бұрын
@@codyhanson1344while I do agree modern decks and archetypes are more geared towards the fast competitive style of play if you are playing casually you can also play a different format. Or discuss with who you’re playing with to keep the power level lower as to make the game more interactive for both of you. It’s not as if you are forced to use the best decks. But I do agree overall that the power level of modern decks is wacky.
@rinoakirova1548
@rinoakirova1548 14 күн бұрын
The funniest part is that, besides a change to the draw rules, the deck itself cannot be banned since the cards are used just as intended unlike other loophole stories.
@fallendeus5641
@fallendeus5641 Күн бұрын
The deck is banned easily... you can force the draws anymore without the self destruct button...
@cseymour-veriod2110
@cseymour-veriod2110 21 күн бұрын
Tried this at locals before Button got hit. Didn't work as well as i had hoped, i was only able to pull it off during one round, and i lost every other round. At least i had fun, can't say the same for everyone else though
@myselfthethird3393
@myselfthethird3393 12 күн бұрын
dude wasnt aiming to end his opponent's win streak , but was aiming to break his spirit ! he succeeded !
@michaelcarlton1484
@michaelcarlton1484 17 күн бұрын
It's kind of crazy that after the first MST misplay that he never got it again in the dozens of other tied games.
@headwrinkle9896
@headwrinkle9896 16 күн бұрын
Ngl, as a magic player this pleases me greatly. Both the tournament and the rule change that followed
@SetoShadowVT
@SetoShadowVT 20 күн бұрын
This is one of those situations that feels like "And that's how I made infinite conditions illegal" moment lol
@brickster0004
@brickster0004 16 күн бұрын
"The opponent played Sonic the Hedgehog" a man of culture fr
@Damini368
@Damini368 17 күн бұрын
“If you didn't want to waste time you could have scooped at any point.” -Mero
@Zanji1234
@Zanji1234 22 күн бұрын
oh gosh i still remember when the first info about that deck came over to Germany and the discussions about it xD (inspection was also used in Last Turn Decks way back so maybe the judge did knew about that)
@jamesmorgan704
@jamesmorgan704 22 күн бұрын
I used Last Turn deck for a few months before they banned it. I pissed off sooo many people 🤣. Someone managed to get rid of all my Jowgens but didn't expect that I also had a Theban Nightmare :)
@Zanji1234
@Zanji1234 22 күн бұрын
@@jamesmorgan704 the first time I played against it, was when upperdeck took over and suddenly all us American cards were legal even those from packs that were not available in EU
@tonychow4853
@tonychow4853 15 күн бұрын
I remember I used to run Final Countdown with Self Destruct button as a contingency engine. Basically, you stall for as much as you can with things like One Day of Peace, Waboku, Threatening Roar, and the like. Give your opponents life points with Upstart. Lower your life with Solemn Judgment and Wall of Revealing Light. When my Final Countdown failed, I pulled out the good ol’ Self Destruct Button like the sore loser I chose to be for sh*ts and giggles 🤭
@i_i8924
@i_i8924 Сағат бұрын
I remember trying Final in the Button deck and couldn't get past turn 15 consistently 😢(think it was ppl running Solemns would end up negating the last Waboku/Roar for lethal or endphase MST/DT)
@CarbonMalite
@CarbonMalite 22 күн бұрын
How did anyone ever allow a card that forces ties to be legal in a setting where someone HAS to win.
@ashemabahumat4173
@ashemabahumat4173 21 күн бұрын
Cuz it's funny. Just make a multi-tie situation loss, that way even if you lose you can waste people's time while they know they won't see you in loser's lol
@MaZeW1
@MaZeW1 21 күн бұрын
The basic idea is not that weird. Self-Destruct Button's activation requirement makes pretty clear what it was intended for. To reset a game you are about to lose hard. Card designers just did not realise how abusable it would be in a tournament setting. Admittedly, I got the impression that back then they were mostly still designing for the playground, not the competitive game.
@nathanielbass771
@nathanielbass771 21 күн бұрын
Mazew's basically right. There are a LOT of cards from the early era that are banned for how abusable they are now. ex: that look at hand card had no usage limit. Now, imagine if you could do that with say... pot of duality or card trader (card trader would become an infinite search engine...)
@dragonmaster951753
@dragonmaster951753 21 күн бұрын
The card in a vacuum is fine. You have to purposely let your opponent deal anywhere between 7k to 7.9k damage to activate it. That's a risky gamble just to draw. So the counter play is already built into the card because you have to be losing BADLY to even meet the conditions to activate. But I refer to this story as what happens when the card isn't in a vacuum. It was an over sight. The card is trash, it's just terrible for tournament play.
@scattershot666
@scattershot666 21 күн бұрын
We have one or two cards that can do it still, and a few that can do it even though that wasn't why they were made. Cubic Crimson Nova burns both players for 3k at the same exact time, so if the opponent has 3 out it forces a draw at his end phase. Most cards that hit both players like Ring of Destruction hit one player first now but Crimson Nova hits both, I saw a game 8 at locals once before the new time rules kicked in.
@existinginaspace8347
@existinginaspace8347 20 күн бұрын
Never allowing your opponent to play the game. Hmm whats that sounds like...
@NovusIgnis
@NovusIgnis 18 күн бұрын
Sounds like yugioh's philosophy for the last decade. The only difference is what flavor you use. If you use monsters to keep your opponent from playing the game, then everyone's happy. But if you use spells and traps to do it, then suddenly you're a monster and toxic and yadda yadda yadda.
@TheFatalcrest
@TheFatalcrest 15 күн бұрын
@@NovusIgnis XD I think its because in theory we all use monsters, you might beable to fight it out? All I know is this would make me slap as many spell and trap wipers into my deck as possible.
@HowlingDoom
@HowlingDoom 14 күн бұрын
​@@NovusIgnisNo one cares about using spells and traps. People didn't hate Sky Strikers because it focused on using spell cards. The issue with the spells and traps you're trying to paint in a good light is that they're floodgates, which are arguably worse than negate boards.
@NovusIgnis
@NovusIgnis 14 күн бұрын
@@HowlingDoom No, people are *very* much against spells and traps as a whole. They don't hate Sky Strikers because it sitll isn't a spell/trap deck, it just happens to use spells more than other decks and those spells don't require removal options. People *hate* floodgates because they can't tolerate running backrow removal in their deck like they're supposed to instead of their deck of 39 monsters and one field spell. I've played against floodgates before and never had a problem dealing with them because I run backrow removal in my deck in various different forms.
@HowlingDoom
@HowlingDoom 14 күн бұрын
@@NovusIgnis I was gonna make a lengthy reply but honestly your statement about Sky Strikers alone just proves you have literally no idea what your talking about. Ah yes Sky Strikers, the deck who's whole gimmick and power comes from their spells, isn't a spell deck. Next you're gonna tell me Labyrthn isn't a trap focused deck. Also the whole "just take back row clearing cards" is another case of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. People who make this point seem to only think in a vacuum and fail to consider the fact that an opponent will not let you just clear their back row or the fact that just about every back row clearing option is unsearchable and thus reliant on luck to draw into. Yes you can beat floodgate decks, just like you can beat negation board decks. These do not mean they are good for the game. If you have an issue with negation boards you should have an issue with floodgates as they are two sides of the same coin.
@94lolface
@94lolface 17 күн бұрын
"You just wasted 40 mins" That's the average duration of a single turn now
@therandomsaiyajin
@therandomsaiyajin 20 күн бұрын
What a mad lad move, legit hard countered a old meta deck with the most cursed draw deck ever
@Frogg9361
@Frogg9361 22 күн бұрын
Love these history/documentary type videos. Keep it up!
@wonkybiscuit2760
@wonkybiscuit2760 19 күн бұрын
Currently, you can do roughly the same strategy with Morphtronic Telefon. If you can start the Telefon Loop, you can constantly gain life and roll dice. The secret: track your LP and denotations of gamestate on a pad of paper. In my combo line, I summon Telefon 18+ times. During each of those summons, I’ll pause and adjust my life on my pad of paper. This causes every Telefon activation to eat up ~30 seconds. That’s over 9 minutes, per game, of “Activate Telefon effect, lemme write down my new LP.” Given that shuffling, side decking etc also consumes time? You can easily crack the current YCS time rules with Telefon and some patience.
@Dragonveign
@Dragonveign 16 күн бұрын
"Im not trapped here with you, your trapped in here with me" lol
@DeadlyGrim
@DeadlyGrim 14 күн бұрын
In Magic the Gathering, there's the Turbofog deck archetype. The deck plays a bunch of fog effects (cards that prevent damage during combat) and efficient life gain cards. It's able to win by decking the opponent (I don't know if you have the rule in Yu-Gi-Oh, but if a player would draw a card but there's none left in their deck then they lose -- that's decking). And Turbofog usually does this the long way: by making the opponent draw their cards normally.
@odinkiller727
@odinkiller727 14 күн бұрын
Yugioh has the same rule about decking out. There’s even a dedicated deck out “archetype” of spell cards called Runicks that each does an effect then banishes the top X number of cards from an opponent’s deck.
@thecookies6109
@thecookies6109 12 күн бұрын
if no cards in deck in ygo u lose.
@Dugga49
@Dugga49 20 күн бұрын
That WOULD be annoying lol. But the best way to handle a troll deck that you can’t stop is just to accept it. You’ll have a better time laughing with your opponent
@xXFoiXx
@xXFoiXx 14 күн бұрын
The main takeaway for me is how useless Yugioh judges are.
@MysteryS4869
@MysteryS4869 22 күн бұрын
Both player's Life Points become 0... If I recall correctly, Kalin from 5D's had 2 ways to continue playing the duel even when his LP dropped to 0 or became 0. Then again, those two cards he played after he was released from being a Dark Signer in the anime are probably not released yet. Thank god Self-Destruction Button was banned lol.
@blueblaze7312
@blueblaze7312 19 күн бұрын
Dude. That and Localized Tornado in Duel Links...
@MrJoeyWheeler
@MrJoeyWheeler 18 күн бұрын
The anime features multiple cards that let the game continue after 0 LP. But none of them exist in the real game - they logically can't, because the rules of the game dictate that the duel is OVER at 0 LP, and no effects or conditions can activate after that point as a result.
@Karanthaneos
@Karanthaneos 18 күн бұрын
​@@MrJoeyWheeler they could if the effect existed. MTG does have cards that prevent you from losing the game outright as a continuous effect, so you have to remove that card in order to allow the opponent to lose.
@BearBrush
@BearBrush 17 күн бұрын
​@@MrJoeyWheelereffects on a card override the main rules in case of a conflict, still possible.
@Modie
@Modie 16 күн бұрын
@@MrJoeyWheeler Of course they could make cards that overwrite this rule. Like how Exodia is an alternate win condition. But they probably never bothered, because cards like these would only ever be abused instead of actually having a worthwhile effect on the outcome of a game (I mean, just look at Exodia, where the whole point of their decks was just that you make a deck where you can draw every card in one turn).
@WarLycan36
@WarLycan36 23 сағат бұрын
"Actually it was 53 minutes" ...the way I just cackled at this segment!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@Jan_Scrim
@Jan_Scrim 19 күн бұрын
Today you waste 56 minutes with any deck in one turn =D
@mrhalfsaid1389
@mrhalfsaid1389 14 күн бұрын
Fundamental proof that this game is not about winning, it's about refusing your opponent any opportunity to make you lose
@esseubot
@esseubot 20 күн бұрын
I love Self-Destruct Button, its my favourite card in the game and It's just such a crazy idea. I wish they made a retrain where your opponent needs to inflict up to 7000 points of damage with cards they own to you.
@i_i8924
@i_i8924 Сағат бұрын
*Magical Explosion* baby 🥰 (same meme but actually good)
@Wortigon2000
@Wortigon2000 21 күн бұрын
I lost to time rule once on locals... it was pretty irritating. It was against Blue-Eyes... I went first, and my opponent managed to get 1 hit in. She passed her turn over to me, and judge calls time. it'd have taken me about 3 moves, all for which I had the cards already in hand, without the draw for the turn required, to deal over 8000 damage... Let's just say, I really don't like time rules. Similarly, in that match, I called out my opponent for using Summon Limit, which was banned like 2 weeks prior to that local.
@Rotomington
@Rotomington 21 күн бұрын
Summon Limit was only banned on the latest April 2024 banlist. This means you lost to blue-eyes in the year of our lord 2024 during peak snake-eyes format.
@ReclaimerTyphoon
@ReclaimerTyphoon 18 сағат бұрын
Ultimately, "dems da rules", and if you play, you agreed to, and abide by those rules (well, most of us, anyway). If you're not mentally prepared for the possibility of something clearly outlined in the structure of the game, and if you're not actively exploiting every rule you can, to your benefit, are you even really playing the game? One of the reasons I'm pretty sure I'll never play competitive *anything*, though, is because of stories like this. I watched a video of a Pokemon VG match, and the other player just needed one more turn to get a guaranteed victory... but the turn player had more time on their turn clock than there was in the game clock, so they slow played/feigned "thinking", the judges didn't call him on it, and he won - and the girl across the table looked absolutely crushed, being the better trainer, but losing on a technicality & due to poor sportsmanship of her opponent. The whole time, she's sitting there, staring off into the crowd, just despair on her face because she knew he was running down the clock. And it's just, like... Nah. Life is *too short* to put up with bullshit like that. I'd rather read a book or something, then find myself feeling that, having paid an entry fee, and spent any amount of time actually trying to do well. If I'm going to play something to try to win, it had better be something in which I'm 100% allowed to show my full capacity/skill, with no arbitrary time limit, etc. (I get why time limits exist though - people want to go home eventually/the tournament has to end by the end of the day on Sunday, etc.)
@ZionSairin
@ZionSairin 17 күн бұрын
Man, I remember running a deck that'd win with Blasting the Ruins and had Self Destruct Button as a fallback option in case one of the burn damage shots somehow failed.
@invertfriend
@invertfriend 19 күн бұрын
Why didn't he just concede once so he can go first instead?
@BPTK162
@BPTK162 18 күн бұрын
Not the worst move, but can’t imagine Mero couldn’t just concede the following game and things continue as usual. Or the opponent doesn’t get the out and just outright loses the match
@jotarokujo3603
@jotarokujo3603 14 күн бұрын
The opponent conceding is a big risk for almost no payoff. If they concede, then win the next game, the match is still only 1-1 and nothing has changed. If the player conceding doesn't win, they're in the precarious situation of actually being down a point against this strategy. They get another chance to go first every time they fail to stop the strategy, but the best they can ever hope for is to tie the game up and go back to the self destruct player going first.
@invertfriend
@invertfriend 14 күн бұрын
@@jotarokujo3603 I know Yu-Gi-Oh!, I play it too, but the thing is, if their deck has such a high consistency that they cannot brick, when it was already harder to brick back then due to slower gameplay given the cards at the time and you watch them get a draw every single time until timeout, then you know you might as well go for next round.
@silentcalling
@silentcalling 15 күн бұрын
I love how this guy saw the meta, knew his opponent, then chose the most wacky, off-the-wall strategy to troll him into victory. Diogenes would be proud.
@gedox6523
@gedox6523 15 күн бұрын
Mero is by far my most beloved YGO player, because it wasnt about winning on the table in the first place, it was about making his opponent suffer mentally irl so much that he could win by time and rulings. If i cant win in cards, im going to win by psychological warfare. And that my friends, is a way more satisfying way of winning imo ^^ Edit: Seeing the opponent suffer is a form of enjoyment too, dont forget that ^^
@ZXZZ66_
@ZXZZ66_ 18 күн бұрын
This video format is actually really good lmao, couldn't wait for more like this
@FunnyMav
@FunnyMav 19 күн бұрын
Considering a lot of decks these days prevent your opponent from taking a turn while winning instead of drawing, not the worst thing. Also, after using obscure rules to win, the correct response is, "It's about the cones."
@Muhahahahaz
@Muhahahahaz 14 күн бұрын
Ah, yes… A fellow Cones of Dunshire enjoyer, I see
@YugiSatan
@YugiSatan 17 күн бұрын
Had an opponent almost flip the table at the 200th YCS in a later round, like 6 or 7. He was playing Trickstar Sky Striker and I was playing Paleo Frogs(really wanted to play Pen Magician but got the venue a bit late so had to throw something else together very last minute, deck prof on my channel for how janky it was lol) Anyways, I had a set Imperial Order, Mistake, and I think a Rivalry or a Gozen. Instead of flipping IO on his first spell, I flipped Mistake, then the Rivarly/Gozen, then on the third spell I flipped the IO and he had a bitchfit. He angrily said "of course you have everything, why didn't you just flip that first" Which of course I wouldn't because I want to bait the MST on one of the others first instead of losing to an MST on a cl2 IO activation. He then opened his bag, literally scooped his mat and cards into it and then slung his bag up from the floor, it hitting the bottom of the table, making it raise and the people on the sides of him had to hold the table down a little so it didn't fully flip. He didn't sign the match slip, he just left the venue seemingly as they called for him at the end of time to try to find him to get his signature. He was abused that game, I can admit, as I did resolve Reincarnation + Droll on him game 1.
@Biggiejohn
@Biggiejohn 16 күн бұрын
Regionals back in 2004 overtimes were often ruled as "first blood". It probably wasn't "official" but they were always trying to scoot us out of the door asap because they didn't rent the locations long enough. Whoever got to go first in overtime had a massive advantage if they had a burn card, whoever got to go 2nd had a massive advantage if they had something like a spear dragon.
@nightmare674
@nightmare674 16 күн бұрын
I made a self destruct button deck back in dueling network days because I found out that ties also gave you the game currency as if you won the game (I don't remember the currency, I think it was just exp). Some just lol'd, others would call a judge. But the deck had a nearly perfect tie rate.
@thepandabacon6322
@thepandabacon6322 11 сағат бұрын
The dude was activating inspection like Yugi drawing monster cards against Weevil lmao
@JikuAraiguma
@JikuAraiguma 14 сағат бұрын
My man’s pulled out the IRL shadow games mind crush.
@matiaspereyra9392
@matiaspereyra9392 21 күн бұрын
I don't believe in the death penalty, I don't believe in the death penalty, I don't believe in th-
@Muhahahahaz
@Muhahahahaz 14 күн бұрын
Lmao 😂
@williehawkinsii4845
@williehawkinsii4845 20 күн бұрын
I'm surprised megacapitalG didn't cover this
@krismarshall3803
@krismarshall3803 18 күн бұрын
.....people still listen to him? Like I'm not nagging on him but like, I haven't seen ANY of his videos listed for me in forever whenever I search Yugioh on KZfaq. Like every other content creator besides him.
@shawnhiggins1005
@shawnhiggins1005 2 күн бұрын
This lets you learn your opponent’s whole deck in a roundabout way where the deck is not disclosed to the opponent 😂
@jasong6401
@jasong6401 22 күн бұрын
Can't say I've ever heard that story. Who wouldn't be salty at someone wasting almost an hour of their life at a tournament? That's yugioh for you 😁
@Omnipotentkami
@Omnipotentkami 13 күн бұрын
"He doesn't want to win, but he hates losing too." - Ging Freecs, Hunter x Hunter. Mero is a real Pariston Hill. KANA
@aeroevans9987
@aeroevans9987 21 күн бұрын
I remember getting banned from dueling network for playing a self destruct button deck. At first, the admin let the duel because I had exodia in my side deck (meaning there was technically a win condition in my deck) but after the third call where the score was 0 win, 1 loss and 26 draws, I got banned for poor sportsmanship.
@animegx45
@animegx45 21 күн бұрын
Sounds well deserved.
@nathanielbass771
@nathanielbass771 21 күн бұрын
pfft, imagine using it with winged dragon of ra? XD easy summon condition and unless the opponent has a hard negate (which was not that common back then), you could pretty much always hit it.
@TheGreatSalsaMan
@TheGreatSalsaMan 21 күн бұрын
Amazing how playing the game can be poor sportsmanship…
@sRtAoIrNm
@sRtAoIrNm 21 күн бұрын
And that’s what it is, you aren’t there to play the game, you are there to waste people’s time
@leonstrider1615
@leonstrider1615 21 күн бұрын
Stall is not wasting your time, you can concede at any point. You're wasting my time by not conceding actually. 😂
@RejectedHeroesMedia
@RejectedHeroesMedia 22 күн бұрын
I love these duel stories. Please make more loom
@Gebirges
@Gebirges 15 күн бұрын
14 mins for that first duel? HOW?!
@Axelpvz2030
@Axelpvz2030 21 күн бұрын
Reminds me of the person who brought a 200+ card deck full of cards that make you shuffle and caused the 60 card main deck limit to be implemented
@christianschulze412
@christianschulze412 20 күн бұрын
these were actually 2 german judges who were fed up by not having a deck limit and as history told us they succeded XD they got asked politely to leave the turnament after the first or second game and agreed isntantly only for the deck limit to be implemented immeadiatly after that tournament XD
@espurrseyes42
@espurrseyes42 20 күн бұрын
Pretty sure it was like 2200 or something.
@chaossnowkitsune6377
@chaossnowkitsune6377 20 күн бұрын
If I recall correctly it was exactly 2222 cards and yes they did that purpose.
@1Uik1
@1Uik1 19 күн бұрын
and its not causes the 60 card deck it was first limitet on 80 cards
@agamemnonofmycenae5258
@agamemnonofmycenae5258 19 күн бұрын
​@@chaossnowkitsune6377 they called the deck mischen impossible with "mischen" standing for "mixing"
@itspapabb
@itspapabb 22 күн бұрын
Been loving these type of videos
@adamczak_
@adamczak_ 14 күн бұрын
remembers me in my gen 1 jars ygo deck where I was one of the first to use the discard strategy, it was so fun seeing my oponents clueless of what to do.
@light564
@light564 6 күн бұрын
That was the biggest troll duel i've ever seen in my life
@gscdookiee
@gscdookiee 20 күн бұрын
Inspection should have never worked that way. Good thing Upper Deck Entertainment doesn't handle the TCG anymore; they made so many terrible rulings.
@TaIathar
@TaIathar 16 күн бұрын
feelsbadman for the GB player not knowing you can activate quick-play spells from your hand during the draw phase.
@rossschweinforth3910
@rossschweinforth3910 14 күн бұрын
Comes down to skill issue :/
@thecookies6109
@thecookies6109 12 күн бұрын
side note gladiator beast player got banned for flipping the table.
@memethis8518
@memethis8518 18 күн бұрын
pull out his phone to play sonic, that gotta be chris chan
@STATICKILO
@STATICKILO 3 күн бұрын
I love stories like this I recently beat a snake eye's player using a deck just with the fact my deck was so unpredictable.
@oak3785
@oak3785 20 күн бұрын
im curious how the first 3 rounds went lol
@georgethomas4567
@georgethomas4567 4 күн бұрын
"Actually.. it was 53 minutes" I'm fucking dying 🤣🤣🤣
@dapperwolf6034
@dapperwolf6034 17 күн бұрын
I remember using this in college as I was throwing a game and then I finally played that card in otk two people at the same time
@nebiru00
@nebiru00 13 күн бұрын
I was under the impression that "self Destruct" doesn't actually deal damage, but instead sets your LP to 0.
@M3G4T3RR4
@M3G4T3RR4 6 күн бұрын
That would be because it does
@nathanielbass771
@nathanielbass771 21 күн бұрын
and I got called evil just for having several cards in my deck that force all cards that go to the graveyard to be banished instead... this is... wow
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 21 күн бұрын
@@nathanielbass771 Locking out graveyards is a legitimate strategy, unlike this which is just being unsportsmanlike
@justicer14
@justicer14 21 күн бұрын
It's more evil since dude won only bcz "the one with more LP wins"
@JayF2912
@JayF2912 19 күн бұрын
Shifter IS evil. It *needs* to be banned, and I say this as someone who has been playing Spright for months - we use it and I still want it gone.
@NovusIgnis
@NovusIgnis 18 күн бұрын
​@@williamdrum9899 This is clearly a legitimate strategy too. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it illegitimate.
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 18 күн бұрын
@@NovusIgnis The card is now Forbidden so Konami doesn't like it either
@justabritgaming716
@justabritgaming716 6 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂 I’m in stitches how he just basically trolled a whale. You love to see it lol just love it
@SirBranDon24
@SirBranDon24 20 күн бұрын
As a runick player, I approve of the toxicity lol.
@cheesycheese7100
@cheesycheese7100 20 күн бұрын
Had a wonderful time watching this, thanks for sharing such a priceless story
@supremeboi1x
@supremeboi1x 6 күн бұрын
Honestly doesn’t seem to far off of more modern formats, in the end it boils down to winning the die roll, as each player is likely to win after siding for going first
@savnana3605
@savnana3605 14 күн бұрын
I always saw the opposite with selfdestruct button, but that was probably after this story spread. People would play an alternate win condition like exodia, and then side into self destruct button once they were up one game.
@m7md_mns923
@m7md_mns923 22 күн бұрын
Hey...what happenned to your MasterBait series?..you made 2 or 3 then stoped....m miss those
@MrSuperTeenGohan
@MrSuperTeenGohan 20 күн бұрын
Ok, but what are the odds that his opponent only managed to draw MST in his opening hand that first game? Like, sure, when you don't know what's happening, then it makes sense for you to let it play out. But after seeing how forcing a draw is clearly the plan, why wouldn't you just immediately try to break that. Heck, even in the first duel, most people would have MST'ed inspection after a few uses, smelling that something was up. I mean, he'd need to use inspection 14 times to reach 1000 lifepoints. He even called for the judge. After that, I'm sure he would have gone "Ok, so the judge won't stop you from doing this, guess I'll use my cards to stop you"
@mikhailvarkovsky4150
@mikhailvarkovsky4150 20 күн бұрын
This
@tripple-a6031
@tripple-a6031 20 күн бұрын
MST was limited at that time. The chance to open that one MST is 15% (assuming a 40 card deck). Drawing exactly one MST over the course of the match (which he did game 1) is a 38% chance, two or more is a 34% chance. This "strategy" only has a 1/3 chance of working if your opponent doesn't make a mistake (or doesn't run a MST for whatever reason) and it gets almost cut in half if you factor in that it's pretty much necessary to go first.
@vaporeonice3146
@vaporeonice3146 16 күн бұрын
@@tripple-a6031I don’t know the decklist, but I wonder if it played multiple Inspection or copies of Wall of Revealing Light. Putting two Inspection on the board could be insurance against MST, and Wall of Revealing Light can’t be stopped by MST because it pays LP as a cost for activation.
@tripple-a6031
@tripple-a6031 16 күн бұрын
@@vaporeonice3146 You are right, though Wall of Revealing Light was also limited at that time.
@ignacioperez5479
@ignacioperez5479 21 күн бұрын
Wait a second. Breaking Bad got the pilot on 2008?! I'm feeling old as fu...
@Wearywastrel
@Wearywastrel 16 күн бұрын
Honestly I thought it was older than that, but then again years feel like weeks to me.
@Jukantos
@Jukantos 12 сағат бұрын
I have never played a single game of Yu-Gi Oh and i most likely never will - but as a general card game enthusiast i can appreciate the sheer cheekyness of this guy ^^
@The1KidneyWonder
@The1KidneyWonder 18 күн бұрын
So I wasnt playing back then so don't know which GB cards were all out but what was stopping the other guy from Swinging into Mero while he was under Barrier for Best effect to swap out and attempt to set some more up?
@ceerizzle9300
@ceerizzle9300 14 күн бұрын
Reminds me of my old Mulligan Mewtwo deck in Pokemon. It was just 4 base set mewtwo and 56 psychic energy. If you didn’t draw a Pokemon, you mulligan and the opponent gets to draw an extra card, making their deck smaller than yours. Then you just spam his damage immunity ability until they run out of cards and lose. I took it to a tournament right around the time the first team rocket set got released and so many people got butthurt that they changed the rules of the tournament half way through, so that no deck could have just 1 type of Pokemon in it. Oddly enough, in my last game I lost, and it was because he was the only person who put a super energy removal (at the time, it was regarded as a bad card) in his deck, and scored the win easily by knocking out the only thing I had on the board once it couldn’t do anything. Idk it seems like there’s counter play to this card, so idk what the fuss is.
@matifloresta
@matifloresta Күн бұрын
And because of that my Recycle was brutally nerfed along too
@bluemew22
@bluemew22 9 күн бұрын
How sad his opponent never opened MST again
@lukaswalker2342
@lukaswalker2342 Күн бұрын
Bro is a visionary who really understands Konami's plans for the game
@dj8ball1993nms
@dj8ball1993nms 20 күн бұрын
I think after this they abbreviated the rule for cards like Inspection where you can just declare you will pay until X amount of life left and just move on. This skips everything forward so there is no time wasted.
@youngjamplayz7501
@youngjamplayz7501 13 күн бұрын
Lmfao "It was 53 minutes" 🤣
@LunarSkittles
@LunarSkittles 13 күн бұрын
"His opponent's deck cost $1000." Me, a MTG player: "Lol, cute."
@just_2swift
@just_2swift 12 күн бұрын
Magic decks are that expensive? 😮
@LunarSkittles
@LunarSkittles 9 күн бұрын
@@just_2swift It depends on the format. If it's a deck with only the last year or two of card releases, then between $100-$500 is a good estimate. If it is a format that allows all but the oldest cards, then $500 to $1000 is a good estimate. If you're playing a game where all legal cards are allowed, then the deck costs is easily thousands. This is due to some older cards being legal, but being on a list that the publisher (WotC) has promised never to print again to make collectors happy, who want to use these older play pieces as an investment.
@just_2swift
@just_2swift 9 күн бұрын
@@LunarSkittles dang so they don't reprint like Yu-Gi-Oh WOW!
@LunarSkittles
@LunarSkittles 6 күн бұрын
@@just_2swift WotC is kinda scummy with their reprints. They know which cards people want, so they hold them back to use as bait to entice people to buy products that are otherwise unenticing. And yeah, some of the oldest cards will never be printed again.
@johnkiggs108
@johnkiggs108 21 күн бұрын
Had a buddy playing quasar turbo back when it first became a thing. He's x-1 and at a regional sitting accross from a 10 year old with a 60 card toploader deck who won round 1 from a no show. Buddy goes first and sets up 3 quasars, confident that there's nothing this kid can do to win. The kid's turn begins and he sets one monster facedown and ends his turn. Buddy's turn again. He swings confidently into the set monster, revealing an Obnoxious Celtic Guardian. Ends his turn. They went turn by turn and my buddy didn't have anything to out the monster and lost by deck out, losing his chance to top
@kappadarwin9476
@kappadarwin9476 20 күн бұрын
This is understandable. When you see a bunch of decks relying on activated effects it would have sounded like a smart move to pack your deck with negates. The guy really outplayed himself by not bringing any destruction cards.
@johnkiggs108
@johnkiggs108 20 күн бұрын
@@kappadarwin9476 Idk what was out or in the meta back then.
@deeznuts6939
@deeznuts6939 20 күн бұрын
This isn't real bruh you can't play at an event with your cards sleeved in toploaders
@johnkiggs108
@johnkiggs108 20 күн бұрын
@deeznuts6939 You might have been able to back in the day. This is back in like 2011
@deeznuts6939
@deeznuts6939 20 күн бұрын
@@johnkiggs108 I don't think you ever could
@velvetcroc9827
@velvetcroc9827 16 күн бұрын
Tournaments should be conducted digitally. You turn up with a physical deck and a guy sets you up on a computer. Would save a lot of time.
@isaakmerritt6676
@isaakmerritt6676 13 күн бұрын
I wonder how close the opponent was to throwing hands.
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