An Eye For An Eye! - House of The Dragon Episode 7 Reaction

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Suzy & Steejo

Suzy & Steejo

4 ай бұрын

Suzy & Steejo finally react to House of The Dragon. House of the Dragon is an American fantasy drama television series created by George R. R. Martin and Ryan Condal for HBO. A prequel to Game of Thrones (2011-2019), it is the second television series in the A Song of Ice and Fire franchise.
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@alexking988
@alexking988 4 ай бұрын
Stannis: If you had to choose between Rhaenyra and Aegon... who would you have chosen? Shireen: I wouldn't have chosen either. It's all the choosing sides that made everything so horrible.
@Doppelwopperlp
@Doppelwopperlp 4 ай бұрын
You totally missed at 28:20 that Viserys called Alicent "Aemma", like Rhaenyras Mother. Thats why they all look so irritated and even Viserys himself noticed this a few Moments later. He still have Aemmas Big Ring on his Finger...
@Golgari213
@Golgari213 4 ай бұрын
That scene broke my heart, man.
@Aurorakuk
@Aurorakuk 4 ай бұрын
As much as I love them both. It's a lucky episode if they can understand half of it.
@Wicked_Sushi
@Wicked_Sushi 4 ай бұрын
Ain't that the truth, lol.
@senior_comrade8401
@senior_comrade8401 4 ай бұрын
don't bother
@hyperchargedjt7387
@hyperchargedjt7387 4 ай бұрын
Viserys's daughter Helaena did say aemon would get a dragon, but he would 'have to close an eye first.'
@menonra30
@menonra30 4 ай бұрын
"dragons of flesh weaving dragons of cloth"...what happens when targaryan people have diff flags? Helaena is on point with her predictions and visions
@JoeBuchanan1346
@JoeBuchanan1346 4 ай бұрын
@@menonra30she’s seems to be the only canon dreamer that doesn’t have mixed up interpretations
@andilezulu292
@andilezulu292 4 ай бұрын
Viserys always complains about keeping the family together and not in-fighting, but it is him at every critical point of the story that sows division within his House. Viserys marries his daughters best-friend while Rhaenyra is still mourning her mother, he neglects his children with Alicent (who could be rival claimant's to the throne), he neglects training Rhaenyra in the politics of Westeros and allows her to be isolated on Dragonstone away from her the other half of the family, he allows Daemon to almost do whatever the fuck he wants (even if it could undermine their power as a House) and now his 2nd born son has been maimed but he denies Alicent or Aemmond the chance to get justice. Think about what Aemmond and Aegon are seeing: our father has just threatened to kill anyone who speaks the truth about Rhaenyra's sons (even though that lie could threaten ALL of their lives) AND he's chosen to protect Rhaenyra's lies rather than get justice for his son AND their mother. Viserys has done little to nothing to build trust, respect and love amongst his family. So in a situation where some High Lords and smallfolk disagree about who should be heir, Viserys, by not uniting the House of the Dragon, is creating a chance for ambitious people in Westeros to trigger war.
@Adanu191
@Adanu191 4 ай бұрын
I've always said the main villain of S1 is Viserys. He allowed the whole situation to fester in the first place.
@andilezulu292
@andilezulu292 4 ай бұрын
@@Adanu191 I strongly disagree and the text of F&B + ASOIAF proves the opposite. Power is never absolute and never unconditional in Westeros. All the Kings of Westeros who thought they could rule without the respect and loyalty of their subjects and vassals ended up losing power or starting wars - Maegor thought he was above tradition and duty, and he ended up being usurped. As King or Queen, you need Lords to gather taxes, adjudicate and enforce the law, to raise armies. You need the Smallfolk for economic and agricultural production. You need he faith to legitimize you and the maestors for mass communication. Aegon The Conqueror understood this and it's why he spent so much time after the conquest endearing himself to high lords and Smallfolk and the faith. Even dragon lords cannot rule sustainably with fear alone
@Adanu191
@Adanu191 4 ай бұрын
@@Leo_ofRedKeep Dorn would disagree.
@penguin50279
@penguin50279 4 ай бұрын
Vhagar is a female dragon btw
@slis3578
@slis3578 4 ай бұрын
A grandma
@LucerysOwner
@LucerysOwner 4 ай бұрын
Granny "F around and find out" Vhagar 😈
@koleseqvvv123
@koleseqvvv123 4 ай бұрын
dragons are hermaphrodites
@kcochr01
@kcochr01 4 ай бұрын
And NOT the fastest dragon!
@atiblink
@atiblink 3 ай бұрын
@@kcochr01and ?
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 4 ай бұрын
suzy latching onto Alicent's beef with Rhaenyra in the episode when she finally snaps over those very issues Alicent's paranoia over the succession and her kids safety comes from her farther ingraining that mentality into her head.
@jsaradar10
@jsaradar10 4 ай бұрын
What about it? This is a sentence fragment lol.
@Mutazili
@Mutazili 4 ай бұрын
You guys didn't touch on the fact that Rhaenyra had an innocent man killed to pass him off as her husband - that's still cold calculated murder, which is worse than Alicent's outburst which she regrets. Rhaenyra also suggested that Aemond be sharply questioned (which is Euphemism for torture) while he was still recovering from his eye's mutilation...
@leonrobinson2475
@leonrobinson2475 4 ай бұрын
Which is why I hate this decision by the writers. This should be a moment that viewers realize Rhaenyra has an evil side. Instead a lot of viewers ignore the fact they murdered an innocent man and instead cheer her for "freeing" Laenor
@Mortimer78
@Mortimer78 4 ай бұрын
@@leonrobinson2475 In this world who gives a fuck, Im just glad they decided to save Leanor somehow, ... you guys don`t see the trees as forest.
@Mutazili
@Mutazili 4 ай бұрын
@@Mortimer78 in what world is killing a person okay? Lol
@matheuskeunecke1335
@matheuskeunecke1335 4 ай бұрын
Yes because Viserys would torture his own son....
@Mutazili
@Mutazili 4 ай бұрын
@@matheuskeunecke1335 That's what she said, and he didn't seem to care lol
@dukerollo1116
@dukerollo1116 4 ай бұрын
Criston said as your protector because he was saying no because she wasn't in any physical harm he wouldn't do it. Thats how i.took it anyway
@dukerollo1116
@dukerollo1116 4 ай бұрын
@@danika9411 most people seem to think its him saying yes
@rachelMB
@rachelMB 4 ай бұрын
Ah, was looking for this comment. I didn’t wanna be repetitive lol. But yes, agreed. I wish the actor would’ve delivered the line _slightly_ differently, with more emphasis on the “your”… I am positive that’s how he meant it. He wasn’t going to take anyone’s eyeball lol.
@marsalien4
@marsalien4 4 ай бұрын
@@rachelMB The emphasis shouldn't be on your, it should be on the word protector. As your *protector* , your grace.
@rachelMB
@rachelMB 4 ай бұрын
@@marsalien4 I honestly think it could work either way to get the same point across lol.
@mollybmedia
@mollybmedia 4 ай бұрын
Yes, it’s definitely this - it’s why he awkwardly sways, but doesn’t do anything, and no one goes OMG CHADLY NO like the king or the commander. He’s saying he’s her protector, not executioner.
@DanLanningPRTeam
@DanLanningPRTeam 4 ай бұрын
"Zaldrizes buzdari iksos daor." - A dragon is not a slave - Daenerys Targaryen Vhagar chose Aemond because she saw something special in him, and now we are seeing it too.
@sunsetstore77
@sunsetstore77 4 ай бұрын
This. She saw his Targ fire.
@LucerysOwner
@LucerysOwner 4 ай бұрын
Aemond didn't do anything wrong by claiming Vhagar. Vhagar doesn't belong to anyone. Her bond was with Laena and Laena only. So as much as Rhaena and Baela may have felt tied to Vhagar through their mother, it is unlikely that Vhagar felt the same connection with them. They are kids, so perhaps they didn't understand this, but as watchers of the show, we should use our knowledge that they lack to recognize truth instead of just standing by whatever side we favor says. Aemond claiming Vhagar was something he had just as much right to do as any other Targaryen. Rhaena doesn't get "dibs" just because Laena was her mother. She has the right to not be ready and to grieve, but she doesn't have the right to demand or expect other people put her and her feelings and time ahead of their own. A Targaryen Prince has been bullied and mocked for years for not having a dragon, he was so desperate he'd even gone into the dragonpit trying to claim one, only to almost be killed. Of course when the opportunity arose to claim Vhagar, the legendary and largest dragon since Balerion, he was going to do it. And I think it's silly that people act like he just went to claim her at night to be sneaky. He obviously did it at night because that was the first opportunity he had to actually do so. Chances were, he and his family were leaving back to King's Landing the next day, so how much time did he really have? It made sense he'd do it as soon as the funeral was over and he could finally get away and be alone. Was he being rude when he told Rhaena "maybe find a pig to ride?" Yeah, I think so. He didn't have to say that, but to me that was his worst offense. Everything else he did up until that point was nothing to attack him over.
@dukerollo1116
@dukerollo1116 4 ай бұрын
To be fair they attacked aemond first. He was defending himself
@SuzySteejo
@SuzySteejo 4 ай бұрын
Aemond came in to the room verrry smug and disrespectful to the girls who just lost their mother. A punch his way was definitely deserved but let's not forget, he picked up a rock to do some serious damage to his cousin. Kids fight but Aemond took it way too far. He didn't like being bullied but has now himself become nothing more than a cocky bully. Shame cause I thought I was going to like his character. - Suzy
@dukerollo1116
@dukerollo1116 4 ай бұрын
@@SuzySteejo agreed he was a dick and a bully but if they didn't physically attack him none of that would have happened. Great reactions buy the way even.if we disagree on a few things.keep up the good work
@SuzySteejo
@SuzySteejo 4 ай бұрын
Thanks. 😀@@dukerollo1116
@dukerollo1116
@dukerollo1116 4 ай бұрын
Anytime lol
@9Misaki3
@9Misaki3 4 ай бұрын
@@Longshanks1690 How is picking up a rock trying to defuse the situation? Picking up a weapon is going to escalate things not defuse.
@Dondae-do7pd
@Dondae-do7pd 4 ай бұрын
I think one of the beauties of these series is the fact that in this fantasy world the characters are "real". As in most characters are both good and bad, juvenile at times and adults other times, stupid some times and smart others. That's why I can see Alicent's side and I can see Rhenera's side too. Both have done dumb stuff and made mistakes. Deamon too, he does cool and heart warming stuff and then "jerk" stuff too.
@changingmind2522
@changingmind2522 4 ай бұрын
As much as people like to criticize characters like Alicent, I don't really see people being much different if they were ever put in the same situation as her. I think that's what's important: putting yourself in these characters' minds and experiences. It makes you humanize them more.
@mollybmedia
@mollybmedia 4 ай бұрын
It’s always funny to me that people find Alicent dramatic during the Aemond eye loss deal - is she in the wrong to go after Luke, totally. But her baby has been agonizingly, permanently mutilated and her husband, the man who forced himself on her for 10+ years and shows total disinterest in their children, responds with “wow, an eye, that sucks for” *checks writing on hand* “almond?” Imagine if Rhaenyra had lost an eye.
@mollybmedia
@mollybmedia 4 ай бұрын
Like Viserys is straight up like “time to head to bed” without questioning for even a second why Luke brought a knife, scolding them for using it, or comforting his dear son Almond.
@mollybmedia
@mollybmedia 4 ай бұрын
Also as a note, when Criston said “as your protector, my queen”, he was actually telling Alicent he would NOT obey - he was telling her he is there to protect her, not to fetch eyes from children.
@drrohanjacob5343
@drrohanjacob5343 4 ай бұрын
​@@mollybmediaWell viserys has only one child rhenerya. The rest of them are just spares😂. He made them just to be spares.
@mollybmedia
@mollybmedia 4 ай бұрын
@@drrohanjacob5343 It’s so truuuue
@mollybmedia
@mollybmedia 4 ай бұрын
Imagine if your kid was permanently maimed and the other parent rolled up and was like “ya but like he called them a bitch ass So”
@tonismith3707
@tonismith3707 4 ай бұрын
Helaena wasn't talking telling her mother, Alicent, she would have to close an eye. She clearly said- He'll have to close an eye.😊
@jpicard81
@jpicard81 4 ай бұрын
This episode is where the series really begins
@danknight8787
@danknight8787 4 ай бұрын
What I took from Alicent's Perspective of her Feud with Rhaenyra is Complex, much more beyond a "she gets to do what I cant, Im jealous". For starters, since the first episodes, she has always been the religious type, courtesy of her family roots as a member of House Hightower (the faith of the seven used to be based there before the Targaryen Monarchy) which was established in that scene where she and Rhaenyra talk in a sept with all the candles, when young. The faith of the seven shuns adultery, so in part it conflicts with her beliefs. Then we got the dad, who has veen pushing her to the position she is now. Even till the end, he was pushing her to convince the king to make her first born son as heir, to which she refused out of duty to her husband and that friendship she used to have with Rhaenyra. However, once she finds out that even the Princess can lie to her (when Criston Cole confessed to having intimacy with her, also notice how Alicent vouched for her old friend, saying something along the lines of "she told me she remains a maiden", aka: she told me she is still a virgin. So she understood that, despite the question kinda being more specific to her uncle). You can see how that trust mixed with Otto's last venom words about praying for Rhaenyra's mercy towards her and her kids. Finally, even tho Viserys did name Rhaenyra his heir, Tradition did dictate first born sons usually inherit. Not only that, the basis for Viserys becoming king in the first place was the direct consequence of the very first scene at harrenhal, where succession between him and Rhaena "the queen that never was" was being decided. That precedent kinda established men doninance in succession, or at the very least suggested a similar council had to occur to confirm Rhaenyra's succession. You can see that in the episode of the hunt, where the Lannister Lord slipped his words. So realistically, Rhaenyra as queen would have a constant threat in the form of her brothers. Any fuck up on her part could very easily spark a civil war to put any of them on the throne, threats that could only end one way... If they convenietly didnt exist anymore. Once you realize that, once you add in the loss of trust, plus the conflict of morality that the princess clearly doesnt care for, you can see how in Alicent's mind, its now a do or die for her and her children to somehow get Rhaenyra disinherited so that her son can be king, spare all their lives and prevent a civil war.
@laza0202
@laza0202 4 ай бұрын
Lol it's not complex just admit it alicent after Otto is 2nd person responsible for that civil war that's gonna come, without them this war wouldn't happen, she's pathetic jealous fake friend trash, like in ep 9 she told her father I've been ur puppet,after all this time realized this cuz she's stupid, yet she obeys him & listens to him & goes along aegon's crowning like he wanted, her children wouldn't be in danger she knows it, what's the show try to tell me her goal is anyway? Wtf? Complete victimization not works for me, her character is so inconsistent,
@cassandramcbride7007
@cassandramcbride7007 4 ай бұрын
The issue is that people tend to be bias, and dont understand Alicent. Understanding her character and what she is doing doesnt mean accepting or justifying... but seeing the other side. This scene takes that perfectly. Viserys didnt care about his own son losing a eye, and was more concern with grandsons been call bastards. Obvious taking a eye was too much, but he could had find another way to fix this matter. And he didnt do. In Alicent prespective, she sees this as "Rhaenyra could kill them, that the king was ok"... Theres so many other things that people do not want to see her presprective or understanding why she acts like this
@jostnaleman3738
@jostnaleman3738 2 ай бұрын
Thats such a child mindset you got there. Alicent is not jealous, she hates Rhaenyra cuz she was not the person she expected her to be. Reckles, inmature, dishonorable and cant do her duty
@thedragondemands5186
@thedragondemands5186 4 ай бұрын
This was the first episode they filmed; they were still figuring it out; and it was a difficult location shoot in which basically everything that could go wrong did go wrong
@marksaunders3723
@marksaunders3723 4 ай бұрын
And the funeral wake was the first scene filmed, which is why all the awkwardness among the characters is so realistic, most of them had only just met each other! Lol
@PowderedToastMan420
@PowderedToastMan420 4 ай бұрын
Pay attention to HELAENNA! She's a Dragon Dreamer like Daenys Targaryen who had a prophetic dream that Valyria would be destroyed (The Doom). Aegon the Conqueror was also a Dragon Dreamer. His Dream was the prophecy of "THE SONG OF ICE AND FIRE." ✌
@Triskaan
@Triskaan 4 ай бұрын
Hey, small detail I noticed while rewatching with you : Rhaena and Aemond do say "She was mine to claim." " Then you should have claimed her". I wasnt sure the show confirmed Vhagar was female. An old grumpy grandma.
@itsthatgirl98_
@itsthatgirl98_ 4 ай бұрын
Vhagar is a female dragon
@Katshing_Khan
@Katshing_Khan 4 ай бұрын
It's confirmed in episode 2, when Laena and Viserys are talking about her
@RandomsPage
@RandomsPage 4 ай бұрын
It’s always funny that every reactor always thinks Aemond attacked first.
@siyamafuya7163
@siyamafuya7163 4 ай бұрын
Yes run your mouth and see what happens
@SuzySteejo
@SuzySteejo 4 ай бұрын
Aemond came in to the room verrry smug and disrespectful to the girls who just lost their mother. What did he think was going to happen? Lol. - Suzy
@DanLanningPRTeam
@DanLanningPRTeam 4 ай бұрын
@@SuzySteejonah cmon so coming in smugly is worse than pulling up to the scene with violent intentions with weapons on your person? Cmon
@SuzySteejo
@SuzySteejo 4 ай бұрын
I did question in the video as to why Luke had a weapon on him as I thought that was strange but Aemond started the full thing with his attitude and then when he got the punch he deserved he went to rock his cousin. Cousins fight, that's normal. Reaching for a rock to smash you in the head? Just a step too far. I can see his character turning crazy now.
@dwnkaomwn3953
@dwnkaomwn3953 4 ай бұрын
No, but Aemond did escalate the fight when he picked up that rock and was going to kill Jace with it. If that didn't happen, he'd have both eyes over just one. Aemond should've just walked off without saying a word.
@cosmocoatl
@cosmocoatl 4 ай бұрын
Milly Alcock (young Rhaenyra) was just accounced as the next Supergirl in the DCU reboot, because the director was watching this show.
@JimBz84
@JimBz84 4 ай бұрын
Yuck
@atiblink
@atiblink 3 ай бұрын
And ?
@immadahmad8518
@immadahmad8518 4 ай бұрын
Vhagar is not the fastest, quite the opposite actually. A slow old grandma with dementia
@khaleesimandy74
@khaleesimandy74 4 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the, intros and the ending. A lot of times you mention something that I missed or didn't pick up. Keep up the awesome work y'all do. ❤❤
@JrKengu
@JrKengu 4 ай бұрын
omg its finally here. the big episode i've been waiting for!
@MichaelJohnson-or4im
@MichaelJohnson-or4im 4 ай бұрын
Love y’all’s reactions to the show! I hope you’re having fun with it!
@MeShell138
@MeShell138 4 ай бұрын
Alicent grabbed the cat’s paw dagger that was used to try and kill Bran.
@melissaisloud7404
@melissaisloud7404 4 ай бұрын
Aemond One Eye has entered the chat!
@shanehenry3718
@shanehenry3718 4 ай бұрын
I agree with suzy's assessment in the beginning, allison is dismissed while everyone in the show is always defending and protecting rhaenara no matter how she breaks the rules she's always rewarded while Allison who always follows the rules and does her duty is always punished, I think the show is set up to emotionally make us attached to rhaenara and see Allison as a villain even though she's the one who follows the rules
@alejoarts5219
@alejoarts5219 4 ай бұрын
Alicent let a royal guard go unpunished for murdering an innocent man at Rhaenyra's wedding. Alicent left a blood murderer (Larys Strong) unpunished and told him that she would use his services (a hitman, practically) when necessary. No, Alicent stopped following the rules since last episode. The "Blacks" are not victims, but neither are the "Greens."
@monlovchel
@monlovchel 4 ай бұрын
@@alejoarts5219 exactly! Alicent has caused all the hatred and bitterness not Rhaenyra. Alicent is that busybody in church keeping a ledger of everyone’s screw ups. With her nose in the air and pretending her own laundry doesn’t stink.
@UncoordinatedGaming-md8ol
@UncoordinatedGaming-md8ol 4 ай бұрын
Bc the rules r stupid and wrong in the first place lol. Kind of a big point of the story is just plain anti monarchy in general. Book alicent and show alicent r 2 very different people
@DecSteele
@DecSteele 4 ай бұрын
I always geek out when the Targaryen’s speak valerian
@MeShell138
@MeShell138 4 ай бұрын
You should listen to what Princess Helena says.. You will find she has the gift of prophecy. Remember she said Aemond would have to close one eye.
@chaidie7056
@chaidie7056 4 ай бұрын
I love your long intros. I listen to them while cleaning or doing laundry - and then I get to watch the reaction afterwards :D
@forevercloud3000
@forevercloud3000 4 ай бұрын
Confirmation bias is such an intersting phenomenon. Most who watch the show on first take see Aemond as the instigator. 1. Aegon, Jaece and his brother actually picked on Aemond first with the pig thing. They knew he wanted a dragon. 2. While yes, he was shitty with how he wasrunning his mouth after the 2 girls mom just died....but claiming the dragon was not against the rules or anything. The Dragons take who they choose, there was no asdurance that the girls could tame Vaygar. To even try was very dangerous and any one of them could have been killed. 3. The girl struck first....he defended himself after the 3 of them started jumping him. 4. He picks up the rock because hes outnumbered...but its pretty obvious a deterent to keep them at bay. Yet he does keep shooting his mouth off and little homie pulls a knife. That escalated the whole thing. 5. Do yall hear yourselves when you gloat about the Kings favoritism over his first born daughter? That is not GOOD! Aemond and Aegon are his sons too and he doesn't really act like it. Allicent at that point was rational in her fury as a mother. Now of vourse no one wants to maime a child, but Vicerys doesnt even scold The Blacks, its ridiculous. This is why Otto said what he said and why the Greens end up foing what they do.
@cherryfreckle
@cherryfreckle 4 ай бұрын
It is completely reasonable for Allicent to be upset, but her as a grown adult requesting for a child's eye to be taken is completely crossing the line. The fight between Aemond and the others was between CHILDREN, therefore to ask for such a punishment is too extreme. They were all being immature but unfortunately it escalated too far. As children, it's whether they truly knew any better though. You can defend Aemond as much as you want, but I think it was obvious he was going to use the rock to murder. Just look at how he grows up to be. He always had that side in him. But back to Allicent, it's sometimes hard to take her seriously as her jealousy towards Rhaenyra is the cause of a lot of her actions. If it was someone else's child who injured Aemond, would she request the same punishment? Most likely not.
@SnillhundReal
@SnillhundReal 4 ай бұрын
Greens be seething
@DanLanningPRTeam
@DanLanningPRTeam 4 ай бұрын
@@SnillhundRealdon’t worry the Greens will get it back in blood - no one can withstand their dragon warrior King and Princes Certainly not team feminism
@fleurgi
@fleurgi 4 ай бұрын
I think Vhagar is the oldest dragon alive. She was around when Baleron the Dread was around.
@marr32just
@marr32just 4 ай бұрын
You’re right
@lucasbelmonte2832
@lucasbelmonte2832 4 ай бұрын
There’s rumours that the Cannibal was on dragon stone even before the Targaryens that would make him nearly 300 years old
@mikered1974
@mikered1974 4 ай бұрын
​@@lucasbelmonte2832thats just a Baseless Theory even in BOOKS its only the " Uneducated Smallfolks who believe in that nonsense Rumors meanwhile Every Targaryen , Maester , Educated Westerosi aswell Dragon Keepers and Smallfolk from Dragonstones Don't even Believe that Bullshit ".
@user-qr3kj5xs6x
@user-qr3kj5xs6x 4 ай бұрын
Really loved this reaction. I think that the intro, with all the clips from the previous episode, is one of the best intros I've seen in a reaction video. It's even given me an idea. I think that it would be great if you watched the season 2 teaser during your episode 10 discussion. It's a fantastic teaser (if I'm not mistaken it's the most watched teaser in HBO's history) and it would be fun to see you make predictions for the next season based on the events of the finale and the teaser. I also wanted to point out that in episode 6, Alicent did say that the king knows in conversation with Criston. Also, the Greens are the name of Alicent's faction, since she's always wearing Green, which is the colour of House Hightower (in wartime). You'll remember that she famously wore green in the wedding celebrations in episode 5.
@zaklarey8446
@zaklarey8446 4 ай бұрын
The guard Daemon choked was the body they burned
@panda4859
@panda4859 4 ай бұрын
I like how this show already has more discussions in its first season than even some of the most intense episodes from Game of Thrones or actually the entire show. I don't remember 30 minutes of discussion after Battle of Bastards, Red wedding or Tyrion's trial. Glad you're enjoying it: )
@Phizzo4real
@Phizzo4real 4 ай бұрын
Dragon is called Vaeghar, one of the 3 dragons in Aegon's Conquest. The black dread, Marexes, and Vaeghar.
@slmott399
@slmott399 4 ай бұрын
Most people believe the farthest outpost of Old Valyria was the island of Dragonstone, but it was actually the colony of Alabama, founded by Jeremiah Targaryen and his sister-wives Debbie and Tammy-Lynn Targaryen.
@chiadikaobioguh9856
@chiadikaobioguh9856 4 ай бұрын
Ted?
@TheWhiteDeer
@TheWhiteDeer 4 ай бұрын
Vhagar isn’t the fastest dragon, she’s the oldest (After Balerion died). I believe Meleys (Rhaenys dragon) was considered the fastest at this time
@rogers.5153
@rogers.5153 4 ай бұрын
FYI, I love your intros and outros, I never skip!
@monlovchel
@monlovchel 4 ай бұрын
I do too!
@thedragondemands5186
@thedragondemands5186 4 ай бұрын
39:15 - High Valyrian dragon commands: "Dohaerys!" = "Serve!" (in the sense of "Obey!"); "Lykiri !" = "Calm!"; "Soves!" = "Fly!" ---- We heard these when they were training last episode.
@SuzySteejo
@SuzySteejo 4 ай бұрын
I ain't learning Klingon for no-one -Steejo
@thedragondemands5186
@thedragondemands5186 4 ай бұрын
@@SuzySteejo petaQ
@DanZoBot3000
@DanZoBot3000 4 ай бұрын
I thought he nailed it...
@crystall.411
@crystall.411 4 ай бұрын
jace had the dagger the girls said “someone stole vhagar” so jace either took a weapon just in case or he just happened to have a weapon on him because he is a prince, luke picked it up when jace dropped it during the fight.
@rafm3068
@rafm3068 4 ай бұрын
I like when Suzy says "Hello" Very charming! lol
@versacethegreat9356
@versacethegreat9356 4 ай бұрын
Top 5 intro from you guys, love when yall discuss the show or other topics. You don’t gotta keep it short!
@React2This
@React2This 4 ай бұрын
IMO, the author of this series and of GOT is repeatedly making a point that a “legitimate” right to rule is absurd because it’s almost always based on assumptions. The hair is the correct color, so everyone assumes legitimate birth. But throughout history, how often has an illegitimate child inherited a throne and nobody knew? And what difference did it make?
@SuzySteejo
@SuzySteejo 4 ай бұрын
I think Bron's conversation with Tyrion is really one of my favourites because of this exact thing. They all pretend like the nobles somehow have god given rights due to their 'blue blood' when it's all just who won the wars of old. -Steejo
@lucasbelmonte2832
@lucasbelmonte2832 4 ай бұрын
That’s true but this is during a time where everyone, including most kings bow down to the religion and follow its rules. Bastards are said to be bad so everyone treats them like the plague which is similar to our own views on bastards in the real world. Royalty can have bastards they just aren’t allowed to put them on the throne. That’s the law Westeros has followed since the age of Heros since the north and old gods have similar views.
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 4 ай бұрын
Yes, GRRM pokes holes in the whole notion of monarchy and divine rights in his writings. The idea that the gods anoint certain people to rule is not only absurd in itself, the whole idea of the gods themselves is equally absurd since there are as many gods as there are peoples in the world.
@pendragonsxskywalkers9518
@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 4 ай бұрын
Absolute primogeniture instead of male primogeniture wouldn't help Velaryons, as in show Laena was younger than Laenor - that means that Laenor's (legal) children inherit ahead of Laena's. As Luke and Joff are recognized Velaryons, they inherit ahead of any children Laena's had. It has nothing to do with their gender. If Luke and Joff were girls, they would still inherit Driftmark ahead of Laena's kids.
@alexevans4637
@alexevans4637 4 ай бұрын
Viserys is such a bad father to Alicent's kids (even the actor said it). He didn't even care about his son losing an eye, instead he chosed to cover Rhaenyra's lies👎
@mack_taylor
@mack_taylor 4 ай бұрын
He wasn't even a good father to Rhaenyra for the first half of her life lol
@slis3578
@slis3578 4 ай бұрын
Viserys was weak, just like his brother said. He should have never been king, and he brought on all of this chaos just because of his indecisive and weak nature.
@emikusz
@emikusz 4 ай бұрын
He is a bad father to all of his children, in different ways. He should not be a father, let alone a King.
@emikusz
@emikusz 4 ай бұрын
@@krayzy932 All of the children should have been punished for fighting, especially seeing how far it went. Not by removing eyes (obviously), but by like - confine them to their chambers, give them some chore, extra learning, making them apologize to each other, at the very least scold them, anything really (Btw I mean Aemond too, even if it could be argued that he had his consequence) Also punish the Kinsguard and the other guards, because don't let me get started on how ridiculous it is that 5 royal children (the seacond, third and sixth/seventh in line for the Throne amongs them!) could sneak out and have a fight without the guards finding them on time (like catch them right at the doors of their chambers, where there should be guards btw). They not only placed the kids in danger, they also made the royal family look weak and vulnerable. What Vizzy did was shout about family some and then basically sent everyone to bed. A+ parenting and ruling. But anyway, sorry for the rant (and my english).
@LucerysOwner
@LucerysOwner 4 ай бұрын
This may be the greatest of all Viserys’ sins. It cannot be overstated how important it is for powerful families in Westeros to maintain close, or at least amicable, relationships. It is impossible, for example, to imagine Ned Stark’s children, despite the many different paths they take in life, waging vicious wars against one another. The Stark siblings all love, or at least feel some affection towards, each other. Viserys’ kids and grandkids, on the other hand, mostly hate each other. When they aren’t trading barbs at dinner, they’re slicing each other’s eyeballs. Viserys neglected the children he had with Alicent, binding them almost entirely to their mother. Later in life, Viserys seemed to forget that he even had children other than Rhaenyra. His total inability to get his own house in order, over a span of many years, is ultimately the biggest reason the realm will be torn asunder. Daemon was all right when he said that Viserys was weak.
@Gnarly109
@Gnarly109 4 ай бұрын
i think yall missed that Laenor loved those boys just like his own
@runotehilla9276
@runotehilla9276 4 ай бұрын
I don't like Alicent one bit but her reaction is totally understandable. Imagine waking up in the middle of the night to find your child permanently mained. I'd freak too.
@runotehilla9276
@runotehilla9276 4 ай бұрын
@@kaboom3423 Pretty sure in that moment, I wouldn't listen to reason.
@laza0202
@laza0202 4 ай бұрын
The problem is why she projects it on rhaenyra every time
@runotehilla9276
@runotehilla9276 4 ай бұрын
@@laza0202 Rhaenyra's son did take her son's eye. Plus let's not forget that it's easier to blame the one you think betrayed you. Rhaenyra is an easier target than the men of the realm. Rhaenyra can do what she and other women in the realm can't and she's salty. Alicent is self-righteous. She did her duty and is not pleased that Rhaenyra can frolic about as she pleases. not me defending Alicent when I'm a Rhaenyra girl lol.
@janeathome6643
@janeathome6643 4 ай бұрын
@@laza0202 Rhaenyra did just say that her son should be tortured for more info, so....
@megansarahannwilliams7117
@megansarahannwilliams7117 4 ай бұрын
I love it when you guys talk for a long time in the beginning! Makes me feel like I'm part of the gang!
@SuzySteejo
@SuzySteejo 4 ай бұрын
Aww, I love that! ❤️ - suzy
@RaisedEyeBrew
@RaisedEyeBrew 4 ай бұрын
Great reaction. I like the longer intros and outros about the show. 🐉
@thedragondemands5186
@thedragondemands5186 4 ай бұрын
25:50 - blow your mind: Grand Maester Pycell was Scaroth of the Jaggaroth
@Finians_Mancave
@Finians_Mancave 4 ай бұрын
When Ser Criston replies "as your protector, my queen", I think too many people misinterpret his meaning. He is not saying "I will do as you ask". On the contrary, he is pointing out that his duty is ONLY as her protector - not as her henchman/muscle, etc. And frankly, it's no surprise, as it's a badly written line -- too open to interpretation. That's obvious by the sheer number of reactors who take the wrong meaning and think he's about to do what she said!
@Phizzo4real
@Phizzo4real 4 ай бұрын
How Dragons are claimed: The Royal family has eggs placed in cribs, and sometimes those eggs hatch, and the dragon gets claimed by the newborn. They both grow up together. Rhaenyra and Syrax (her dragon) both grew up together. Lucaerys and Jace (her kids) were the same. Aegon II and Haelena (Alicent kids) were the same. And I think Baela (one of Daemon's daughters had an egg hatched as well). Almond and the other sister never had their eggs hatch. So, the other way is to claim an unclaimed dragon (dragons w/o riders... thus happens when the rider dies. Like Viserys was the last rider on Balerion, the black dread. And Laena had this same problem until she later claimed Vaeghar). The story this is being adopted from has a lot more unclaimed dragons. There were supposed to be 18 dragons on the show, just between the kids and the adults. Season 2 is supposed to show a lot more unclaimed dragons. And there is a cool story of how some of them got claimed to create an advantage in the numbers game. All I will say. I enjoy your reaction, but take some notes. It will help you remember stuff. I find myself remembering more when I write stuff down.
@sunsetstore77
@sunsetstore77 4 ай бұрын
??? This is not true. Sunfyre was a claimed dragon, Dreamfyre is ages old, Helanea claimed her at 11. What are you even saying. Like half of what you wrote is not real.
@ramzes2624
@ramzes2624 4 ай бұрын
Love spending time with you guys on those after and before the episode discussions. Keep them long. And don't pay attention to those fans of the show in the comments that expect you guys to have the same opinions as them who have already watched countless reactions and episode per episode breakdown videos. They are bound to be annoying about it.
@jakefirestone8644
@jakefirestone8644 4 ай бұрын
Dude you guys are awesome. Who wouldn’t watch the intros?
@thedragondemands5186
@thedragondemands5186 4 ай бұрын
25:40 Ty Tennant. Though they cast him because he was in “Tolkien”
@izzic4
@izzic4 4 ай бұрын
Woo another house of the dragon reaction by you two🎉
@dukerollo1116
@dukerollo1116 4 ай бұрын
Im sorry but everything Alicent said was right. Het actions weren't rigjt but her words were
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 4 ай бұрын
Except that her words are in support of upholding bigoted norms that make it impossible for Rhaenyra to ascend the throne easily and also prevent Laenor from being who he really is. The fundamental reasons for all the conflict in HOTD ultimately come down to a) unyielding patriarchy and b) homophobia.
@Bevrast
@Bevrast 3 ай бұрын
I think whether or not people listen to intros and outros depends on the day, the show and the episode. I enjoy people speculating on certain shows and to go through what they got from the episode. But not on all shows. Sometimes I just want to see the reaction to certain scenes. Sometimes I am in the mood to just listen to some scots speak about random stuff. Sometimes I can't be bothered or don't have the time. As long as the intro animation/music thingy is no longer than 12 sec; it doesn't bother me. If someone has something major going on like they are getting married or having a child or just lost some relative (anything that might emotionally play into an episode), it is nice to hear about it.
@carriesmith742
@carriesmith742 4 ай бұрын
5:00 You're wwelcome! Love you guys! ❤ 28:19 did you guys notice Viserys refer to Alicent as 'Aemma'"? 41:51 a reactor I like nicknamed her "turkey neck", lol. 😅 44:46 Chadley had the Night Watch. Probably preoccupied with Alicent. 53:10 They showed a shot of Otto in the beginning of the episode at the funeral proudly staring down at his Hand of the King pin. 56:40 Jace had the dagger and Luc picked it up when Jace got knocked down. Jace threw the dirt in Aemond's face and Luc cut him.
@darrellhenry9152
@darrellhenry9152 4 ай бұрын
Great reaction as always. I enjoy that fact that Rhaenyra isn’t a Mary Sue. She’s not perfect and made a big mistake. Even so I think she’ll make a good Queen and her kids claim comes from her so what does it matter who their dad is. Before they knew who he really was the lords of the North made Jon Snow who they thought was a bastard the King of the North over his true born daughter Sansa. The question is who will be the better ruler. Also never forget the only reason Rhaenyra is the heir is because Otto push for her to get it over Daemon. His rivalry with Daemon caused this.
@itsthatgirl98_
@itsthatgirl98_ 4 ай бұрын
31:49 Corlys is right, history doesn't remember blood but names and Rhaenyra's children have always been remembered as princes and heirs and never bastards.
@lucasbelmonte2832
@lucasbelmonte2832 4 ай бұрын
By the show making Rhaenys have fully silver hair and having the Velaryons be black there is no way to excuse the kids having brown hair, in the books you could easily say it comes from their Baratheon genes like with Rhaenys but in the show it’s so damn obvious.
@josephkendall6281
@josephkendall6281 4 ай бұрын
rhaenyras sons look nothing like a celery one in the book. They didn't have black hair they had brown hair like their father. It the reason they use the phase the seed is strong in got because they look more like a harwin. They don't look like a targ, velaryon or baratheon.
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 4 ай бұрын
@@lucasbelmonte2832 The kids don't need an excuse. Both Laenor and Rhaenyrs accept them and that is all that ought to matter. Ultimately all the problems in HOTD boil down to a) oppressive patriarchy and b) homophobia, c) monarchy. These are artificial societal norms that create more problems than they solve.
@HollyComstock15
@HollyComstock15 4 ай бұрын
A lot of issues I have around the timing of things is mainly due to the time skip restriction that the show has. Like, I'm sure Ser Criston and Ser Harwin would have come to heads much sooner than was shown, and same with Alicent's worries about her children's safety. But they try to condense life over long periods into just snippets of time, making things that probably happened very gradually seem a bit random and rushed. Anyway, you guys are one of the first reactors I've seen who has called out these criticisms, so fair play
@cassandramcbride7007
@cassandramcbride7007 4 ай бұрын
I love this scene between Alicent and Rhaenyra conversation. Clearly we could see that Rhaenyra did want Alicent to loose her head, to look bad. Alicent was so tired of trying to be what she was told and educated to be. The issue is that Viserys could seek justice in another way, yet, he only cared about grandsons been call bastards, while his own son that lost a eye, he simple treated as some kids quarel. One lost an eye, is just kids stuff, but calling bastard that is something to be discuss. Obvious for alicent was a confirmation, that whatever happens to her sons, the king doesnt care, so they were in danger like Otto said. Its evident that a mother will protect their own children, Rhaenyra was doing for her children and Alicent was doing for hers.
@seth_fitzgerald
@seth_fitzgerald 4 ай бұрын
This is officially where the Green and Black teams started to formulate. The whole goal of the Greens was to discredit Rhaenyra since she is immature, reckless, and she is rebellious. She is impulsive like her uncle, not just discrediting her because of her actions as the heir to the throne but also because of her gender. Now, people won't say that it's not because of her gender; it's primarily because of her behavior, but that's not true, as we've seen throughout Game of Thrones. Gender is always brought in, whether subtle or obvious, but trying to sway public opinion against Rhaenyra is the wrong thing to do, Especially if it's going against the King's royal decree. Rhaenyra's claim has always been challenged since the day she was named the heir, and since Aegon’s birth it is under their custom that the heir of the Iron Throne resides on Dragonstone until the King passes away. This is also where they messed up her character. She went to Dragonstone, and as you can see, she has no supporters, whereas her brother Aegon has a lot of support. Viserys could already see that his family was being distant from each other. Regarding Aemond’s eye, both sides are wrong nobody is right. Aemond was wrong for bullying the girls when they did nothing to him, and honestly, in my opinion, he should not have insulted his nephew's birth status. Even though it is true, saying it over and over again to torment them is wrong, and the girls are wrong. The boys are wrong. Aemond was struck first, but he picked up a rock and was going to use it when Jace got knocked to the ground, which is a sign of having a weapon in someone's hand. If he had dropped the knife and just walked away, he would have had his eye intact.
@wajihhassan6703
@wajihhassan6703 4 ай бұрын
I'd listen to a podcast of you two....like on any topic...I often feel very productive while listening to you both. Thanks for the content!
@SuzySteejo
@SuzySteejo 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for listening
@AzkuulaKtaktu
@AzkuulaKtaktu 4 ай бұрын
The only intros I don't skip are scored by Ramin Djawadi.
@giaezrae
@giaezrae 4 ай бұрын
i think you guys are forgetting laenor was the one who literally could not get it up for the life of him, rhaenyra claims in the episode “we tried for many years but to no avail” they tried and everyone was pressing her to push out babies because she was getting older so ofc she’s gonna have to make heirs with someone, laenor couldn’t keep his promise. imagine the sense of betrayal and humiliation she felt by this. she still kept his secret, let him have fun, upheld her husband’s honor all while having to do her duty to the realm which is pop out heirs. so what does she do? have sex with the “second most powerful man’s“ son hoping he would be loyal to her at the time to her accession to the throne because she has never had a man she could trust (there’s zero ties between her and ser laenor he couldn’t keep his promise of producing heirs for the realm, her father got with her best friend, and her uncle leaves her by herself knowing what the people think of her) ser harwin gave her just that. she was far from selfish. sure ig you could say she was reckless in the sense of like “hey you could have at least chose someone that was mixed”😂but ultimately love prevailed. if anything i think rhaenyra sacrificed a lot and her self image to provide for the realm and honored her husband laenor by keeping his secret and even tho it was terribly obvious, she continued to stand ten toes behind him ALWAYS. oh yeah and how alicent didn’t get any kind of punishment for literally trying to kill the heir is CRAZYYY. edit- jesus i didn’t realize i wrote a novel apologies in advance for my yapping😂🩵
@monlovchel
@monlovchel 4 ай бұрын
I agree! If Alicent and Rhaenyra’s roles were reversed, she would have shamed Laenor and screamed it from the rooftops. Alicent is a self righteous religious nut. Faith of the 7 and all that, remember she’s from Old Town.
@kyloren1014
@kyloren1014 4 ай бұрын
Totally right!!
@UncoordinatedGaming-md8ol
@UncoordinatedGaming-md8ol 4 ай бұрын
But yet team green can't shut up about those boys
@arobin6695
@arobin6695 4 ай бұрын
She says to Laenor "the few times we lied together" and she says to Daemon the only reason they stopped trying was because there was no joy in it. She had bastard children because she's a spoiled brat who does what she wants and never has to face any consequences, she did not have bastards because Laenor couldnt get it up, that was never implied or said.
@UncoordinatedGaming-md8ol
@UncoordinatedGaming-md8ol 4 ай бұрын
@arobin6695 laenor admits that them not having children together was his fault in that same conversation and she says she wanted to bear his children. She HAD to produce heirs to maintain her status. Laenor didn't care. Why should anyone else
@innerpeacefindings671
@innerpeacefindings671 4 ай бұрын
Green Team here forever. 💚
@sh4d0w-r0ss-8
@sh4d0w-r0ss-8 4 ай бұрын
Vhager is the largest dragon alive, Meleys (Rhaenys' dragon) Is the fastest.
@torileigh235
@torileigh235 4 ай бұрын
i support alicent 100% here, blows my mind how people's opinions can be so skewed
@ronsthoughtsonthat6930
@ronsthoughtsonthat6930 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic intro!!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@qcosteur
@qcosteur 4 ай бұрын
Calling Alicent a psycho... If your kid lost an eye over an insult, I'm sure you'll be as angry as her. Hypocrisy as its finest ! I'm not saying she was right to demand Lucerys eye, obviously it's wrong. But you don't seem to understand her character at all. Viserys is a terrible father to her children, and Rhaenyra is a spoiled brat who does anything she wants without thinking of the consequences.
@SuzySteejo
@SuzySteejo 4 ай бұрын
Mate, she attacked a woman with a knife, a woman who had literally nothing to do with her kid losing an eye beyond being the mother. I think that warrants being called a psycho. - Steejo
@qcosteur
@qcosteur 4 ай бұрын
@@SuzySteejo Because it's unfair. Aemond lost an eye, and Lucerys will not receive any punishment. I'm talking about a fair punishment that does not involve hurting him of course (for example, making him a squirre far from dragonstone for several months, or forbidding him to fly his dragon for some times, things like this) But no, there is litteraly ZERO consequences for cutting Aemond's eye. Viserys will never do anything against his favorite and only child. It proves Alicent that Rhaenyra can do whatever she wants, her sons and her will never be punished. It also proves Alicent that her children may be in danger, because Viserys will not do anything to protect them. Viserys just did exactly what Otto have been saying Alicent for years. If her son can lost an eye without any consequences, what will it be next, an arm ? A leg ? His life ? The kids also understand know that their mother was right, they are in danger. Moreover, Rhaenyra wanted Aemond to be tortured. "To question sharply" someone in this universe equals to torture, you can look at it on the internet. Rhaenyra wanting to torture a child who had just lost an eye. She's a total psycho too then.
@Duisiwowowoekjeuejdjeuwjwhwj
@Duisiwowowoekjeuejdjeuwjwhwj 4 ай бұрын
I listen to every intro/ outro
@black-widow33
@black-widow33 4 ай бұрын
He didn't bring a dagger knowing who took vhagar...
@jessi17miel
@jessi17miel 4 ай бұрын
Wow, the blatant favoritism towards one side is appalling. A child just lost an eye and somehow you found a way to go "oh he had It coming". Being cocky merits losing an eye I guess 😉💚💚💚.
@SuzySteejo
@SuzySteejo 4 ай бұрын
Grabbing a rock to attack your younger cousin and escalating what was a scrap to something life threatening is what merits the consequences that he incurred. The "blatant favouritism" comment just shows that you've not really been paying attention to anything we've been saying but instead prefer to see everything as a team game - Steejo
@phelinx623
@phelinx623 4 ай бұрын
​@@SuzySteejoYeah picking up a rock after 4 kids gang up on you is not reasonable? Aemond could have literally died by getting beaten by 4 of his cousins.
@LucerysOwner
@LucerysOwner 4 ай бұрын
​@@SuzySteejo I'm gonna be honest with you in this one; Throw an insult because he was bullied all these years ( harsh but understandable ), then get gang up by 4 kids, use a rock as an equaliser but never attacked anyone with it until the knife was drawn. This is a clear cut self defence, IRL those kids would be punsh by the court, but again Rhaenyra and her kids no matter how wrong they are, are above the laws. Blacks are hating him because he is Alicent's child, no other reason. The twin girls attacked him physically first. Iam pretty sure if they shit-talked Aemond and he got angry and hit them, fans would still blame Aemond.. think the problem was that after claiming Vhagar my boy was feeling cocky af. Aemond was clearly superior at fighting. I think he could’ve easily defended himself without antagonizing until the guards came. Realistically the four of them should’ve taken guards with them lol especially the 3 strongs boys
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 4 ай бұрын
@@phelinx623Aemon needlessly taunts them and then arms himself with a rock. Drawing the knife was self defense, not the other way around.
@phelinx623
@phelinx623 4 ай бұрын
@@gunkulator1 So nearly killing Aemond for taunting them is very innocent right? Aemond picked up the rock after the 4 of them ganged up on him. He did not attack anybody with it until the knife was drawn.
@popeye2826
@popeye2826 4 ай бұрын
Im so far from a skipper I unplug my mouse and keyboard from the start of the video until the very end!
@Green_fairy_princess92
@Green_fairy_princess92 4 ай бұрын
You guys are so entertaining to watch one of my absolutely favorite house of the dragon reactors. And I love your long discussion of the episodes it does seem like it’s getting very messy
@hector-nu6gl
@hector-nu6gl 4 ай бұрын
It's fair to have different perspectives on characters in a show. I mean it's obvious a lot of personal factors go into that how we see certain characters. Let's be honest, we all don't have the same values in life and that's fine. Some people have a very strict sense of duty, others are more chaotic and want to be more free and less restricted. Alicent and Rheynera have very, very different characters and a very different outlook on life. It's not easy to have a close relation to someone you have very little in common. Often times these kind of relationships don't last for ever, although they certainly can if you can accept different opinions and values. Personally I feel more sympathy for Alicent than Rheynera, but I know that's a minority position. Could be that she is more my type and I like her sense of duty. That's rare nowadays but of course she also has her flaws. She is a very conflicted person that feels a lot of bitterness. That she has in common with Rheynera. HOTD is certainly a very interesting show if you like the psycholgy and understand humans and what motivates and drives them and how they pursue their role in society.
@kappa_06
@kappa_06 4 ай бұрын
For your information, Margaery Tyrell's mother was a Hightower, same familly than Alicent ^^
@Marco_______
@Marco_______ 4 ай бұрын
59:04 the greens are the Hightower side of the family. They always wear green, it’s their house colour. Remember alicent’s dress at Rhaenyra’s wedding to Laenor. The blacks is Rhaenyra and her side of the family. She often wears black and sometimes red too. It’s house Targaryen’s colours. This whole conflict has been nicknamed the greens vs the blacks.
@myasuniverse1327
@myasuniverse1327 4 ай бұрын
SO DRAGON FACT. Steejo is right about not all Targaryens having dragons because of the hatching problem. As of right now, Rhaenyra, Laenor and Rhaenyra's children are the only ones whose "cradle eggs" ( as they call it) hatched. Everyone else, so Daemon, Rhaenys, Alicent's children and even Viserys had to claim an already living dragon. ANOTHER DRAGON FACT. Daemon's dragon Caraxes originally belonged to his uncle, Prince Aemon Targaryen, the father of Rhaenys (The Queen who never was). AND Vhagar (Laena & now Aemond's dragon) is a conquest dragon originally belonging to one of the conqueror's Queen Visenya and is currently the oldest and biggest dragon. After Queen Visenya, Vhagar was later claimed by Baelon Targaryen, Daemon and Viserys's father. Which basically means these two brothers (Baelon and Aemon) probably flew their dragons together all the time, which means the dragons were like buddies. Then Daemon claimed Caraxes and Laena claimed Vhagar so the dragons flew together once again. Then now Laena died and Vhagar and Caraxes are on opposing teams :( Sorry I just care about the dragon friendships more than this toxic family lol.
@RedFive03
@RedFive03 4 ай бұрын
Sharply questioned = torture
@Necrothep
@Necrothep 4 ай бұрын
51:04 I like to think that since the dagger drank Targaryan's blood it's fire to the Night King a few centuries later.
@MrSupertallblackman
@MrSupertallblackman 4 ай бұрын
The comparison between what Alicent and Dany is absolutely ridiculous. The situation are not even close to the same things.
@SuzySteejo
@SuzySteejo 4 ай бұрын
Tell me you didn't understand my point without telling me you didn't understand my point. - Steejo
@drrohanjacob5343
@drrohanjacob5343 4 ай бұрын
Anyone who puts alicent in any comparison with Daenerys the great is nuts
@LucerysOwner
@LucerysOwner 4 ай бұрын
​@@drrohanjacob5343"Daenerys the gReat" yeah sure buddy
@drrohanjacob5343
@drrohanjacob5343 4 ай бұрын
@@LucerysOwner She was the great I was totally rooting for her as she burnt that useless city down. Her only mistake was being too compassionate and delaying the inevitable. Should have torched that city season 7 episode 1.
@LucerysOwner
@LucerysOwner 4 ай бұрын
@@drrohanjacob5343 Oh dear you Dany stans make me giggle every single time 😆 Your "Queen" is easily the most hypocritical character on the show, and that does tend to make a character a bit insufferable. She holds everyone else to some high moral standard, but is oblivious when she herself dips under her own moral standard. She executes others for things she literally does (or will do later.) Executes/imprisons innocent people, forced marriage for political gain, big talker about how its immoral/wrong to force people to serve, then forces people to serve her, etc. On top of it - she creates this fiction about how Destiny has made her the Chosen One, which further perpetuates her delusions to the point where they eventually implode and crumble down upon her... such a growing god complex really became an issue for her in Westeros.
@LS13.
@LS13. 4 ай бұрын
That flying sequence with Aemond was so beautiful, chills of a dragon that big being tamed. Still like Aemond. Everyone sucks in the show but from all of the sucky people I hate him least probably, the duty he carries is just helping his family and tradition. Like… they ARE BASTARDS lol, rhaenyra gave me the ick this episode 😅 Allicent did not lie. “Cloak of righteousness” - rich, coming from Rhae herself lol and in that scene I don’t think Allicent was thinking about them being outed at all (she’s also mentioned it to Viserys multiple times) of all times that was one I think she truly was just angry at the world as a mother. What would have helped: is if Viserys didn’t name Rhaenyra heir, and he needs to be more prominent in his children’s lives. It’s not Allicent alone- Viserys should be taking care of them as well.
@janeathome6643
@janeathome6643 4 ай бұрын
Even the actress who plays Rhaenyra has said Alicent was in the right (and Aemond).
@sarboee77
@sarboee77 4 ай бұрын
I loved feisty Steevo in the intro today!
@LS13.
@LS13. 4 ай бұрын
The first watch of the series I had very different views, then I rewatched and caught a lot more which made me realize technically both have a claim, and the issue isn’t who’s side we choose, it’s that there shouldn’t be division anyways. Both sides are horrible to each other. It’s nice to rewatch tho!
@laza0202
@laza0202 4 ай бұрын
Both sides are horrible to each other?literally no ,its the green´s fault all the way through
@LS13.
@LS13. 4 ай бұрын
@@laza0202 with due respect- you’re biased and probably don’t know the full story and are just going off of the show
@laza0202
@laza0202 4 ай бұрын
@@LS13. so tell me how black were bad towards greens? i cant stand the fact that some people believe this both sides are equal or as bad mentality this is complete bs
@LS13.
@LS13. 4 ай бұрын
@@laza0202 I’m not putting spoilers below for your ass lol read the book. Although if you think the blacks are good people even within the show that’s incredibly weird.
@laza0202
@laza0202 4 ай бұрын
@@LS13. hahaha I've read the book actually u go read,if u think greens have any shred of honor ur weird
@DaneofHalves
@DaneofHalves 4 ай бұрын
I don't think Alicent's behavior is too crazy. She is a mother whose kid was maimed by the guilty party who is in the room. Shock and outrage do such things to mothers. But... All of a sudden the talk in the room goes away from punitive measures for assaulting each other to injury...to simply having an intense conversation about parentage. At the end of that scene the only one man enough to stand up and make concessions to end the fight between mothers was Aemond Targaryan, the one who lost an eye. I've gone round and round on this with others a long time ago but Rhaenyra and her kids get away with a lot simply because Viserys has a blind spot for her regarding justice. If it was anyone else, she would have been hanged and her kids banished or put to the sword for fathering bastards and lying to king and realm about it. That is the world they live in. None of the drama in this show would even happen if Rhaenyra hadn't acted like a selfish rich girl her entire life disregarding the laws of royalty. I find it weird that Alicent, who is a dutiful daughter, wife, and mother is painted as the bad guy and Rhaenyra, who instigates every bad thing in this show, is considered a the good guy. This binary thinking from fans, as proved here, still shocks me. This is the "Game of Thrones" universe. There are no good or bad guys. Just flawed people.
@bluegypsy71
@bluegypsy71 4 ай бұрын
😂found the Green stan...so biased
@DaneofHalves
@DaneofHalves 4 ай бұрын
@@bluegypsy71 Thank you, Captain Obvious. Not like I was trying to be subtle about it. I got my favs just like anyone else. And just so it's out there, I also read the book. This doesn't end well for anyone. Anyone. Well, maybe Cregan Stark.
@iblack8759
@iblack8759 4 ай бұрын
Alicent and Viserys has 4 kids but the 4th would be introduced in s02 he is on hightower, and yeah danny has the blood of rhaenyra and ....... well enough of spoilers :)
@DanLanningPRTeam
@DanLanningPRTeam 4 ай бұрын
No one brings up Rhaenyra being complicit to murder of an innocent man the way people bring up Alicent being rude
@samanthag2385
@samanthag2385 4 ай бұрын
Whose murder?
@MrSupertallblackman
@MrSupertallblackman 4 ай бұрын
Yeah most people ignore that because they like the Blacks more then the Greens
@Nepoznat811
@Nepoznat811 4 ай бұрын
​@@MrSupertallblackmanOf course people like the blacks more. Have you read the books?
@albertosahagian4590
@albertosahagian4590 4 ай бұрын
Alicent has a child evil. You see in the next ep
@kimcottingham8043
@kimcottingham8043 4 ай бұрын
Because it’s tv and allicent is not a very likable character
@janeathome6643
@janeathome6643 4 ай бұрын
As for Helaena and the millipede, when she says the last part "has no legs", I think she's talking about Bran. Helaena's the Luna Lovegood/Sybil Trelawney of this show. As for Alicent, her father has made her paranoid, she definitely resents how Rhaenyra flaunts the rules, and she's legit pissed that the succession as it stands would be running through a bastard, rather than a legitimate heir.
@Aurorakuk
@Aurorakuk 4 ай бұрын
The fact that Suzy hates socks is amazing😂
@SuzySteejo
@SuzySteejo 4 ай бұрын
Let the feet be freeeee 😁
@LenaKolchuk
@LenaKolchuk 4 ай бұрын
​@@SuzySteejo this comment made me looking forward to your reaction to episode 9👁️👄👁️
@Tyrion2024
@Tyrion2024 4 ай бұрын
Aemond's dragon, Vhagar, is the biggest. The fastest is Rhaenys's dragon, Meleys. And at 57:02, Steejo, that's the absolute best nonverbal, yet audible, articulation of Vhagar's grandness I have ever seen/heard, lmao.
@miquelcanosasanteularia1678
@miquelcanosasanteularia1678 4 ай бұрын
Arguebly the most important episode
@zzzkoszzz
@zzzkoszzz 4 ай бұрын
In the book the fact that Rhaenyra's children are bastards and thus illegitimate is not as clear cut obvious. But since its such a central part of the story they made it so glaringly obvious that the obtuseness of the King becomes almost silly. eg 48:15 the high angle shot showing all the white hair and ..yeah.
@fabricio_borges
@fabricio_borges 4 ай бұрын
In the book, the boys' bastardy is obvious too. Rhaenys has black hair because her mother was Baratheon, but she has the violet eyes of the Targaryens. Jace, Luke and Joffrey have brown hair and eyes and a flat nose, while their parents have silver hair, violet eyes and an aquiline nose. It becomes more obvious when compared to Laena and Daemon's daughters.
@josephkendall6281
@josephkendall6281 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. When people bring this up I wonder if they gloss over the part that they look nothing like a targ or a baratheon. The seed is strong is use in GOT because of harwin Strong and the boys.
@zzzkoszzz
@zzzkoszzz 4 ай бұрын
@@fabricio_borges In the books at least there is excuses for the obtuseness of those involved. eg Rhaenys Baratheon bloodline. In the TV show they made the Velaryon's black removing any pretense of her children being legit to anyone with eyes.
@fabricio_borges
@fabricio_borges 4 ай бұрын
​@@zzzkoszzzbut it's obvious all the same, especially comparing it to the daughters of Daemon and Laena and, later, the sons of Rhaenyra and Daemon. The proportion is the same. Two blonde people with violet eyes having children: Daemon and Laena = 2 blonde daughters with violet eyes. Daemon and Rhaenyra= two blond children with violet eyes. Rhaenyra and Laenor= 3 children with brown hair and eyes and flat noses?
@austinwessonmusic777
@austinwessonmusic777 4 ай бұрын
Watching from my trailer in Alabama
@MeShell138
@MeShell138 4 ай бұрын
You can remember Sir Corlys’ family name Valyrian by remembering Valyrian steel
@kidgforce1
@kidgforce1 4 ай бұрын
Velarion
@rollyro71
@rollyro71 4 ай бұрын
@35:28l😅😅😅 Alabama catching stray bullets 😅 Y'all are my favorite HOT D reactors.
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