Yeah but this version of Alicent, Aegon, Criston, and Jace are far far worse

@@DanLanningPRTeamagree ser criston should’ve got the kingmaker role

as a book reader, Viserys was just a background character for me, but in the show he was so much more! Great actor, great acting!

@@m3dicatedand much more of a POS in my opinion

​@@DanLanningPRTeam I feel like you read a different book then me with reguards to Aegon. Dude was pretty bad in them.

I like both of them, they are what I would imagine, Aemond seems badass but unhinged, and Aegon has an unlikable face.

@@deltablaze77 so does rhaenyra sometimes tbh 😂

Also, Rhaenyra has a son named Aegon.

Actually there is an Aegon in the family tree before king Viserys .. I think from memory there is a total of 8 Ageon's Inc Jon Snow and Jon Snow step brother Ageon .. Rhaegar's first son

​@@joshuasutton355weren't all these people born way after he died..

I believe he was talking to his first wife.

@@JuanitoEsBonito after who died

One of the best lines that GRRM wrote, reading it now from your comment gives me goosebumps as when i first read it.

52? 🥴

If you look at his condition in the later years, it would be hard to believe that he was only 52. But i think it was the disease he had which made him look old. Not his actual age. If you look at his appearance in the first 2 episodes, he looks in his late 30s/early 40s. After the 2nd episode, taking into account all the time jumps till this episode, about 20 years might've passed. This would mean he would be in his late 50s or around 60 when he passed away. Which is not very far from 52.

​@@kartikayvashisht422 And also, the major indicator of age is the hair, but the Targaryens already have white hair. So we'd have to look after other physical attributes, such as hair loss, weight, and health, and all of that can be affected by a mortal disease.

Actually in the show he's 55 years old since on the wiki it says he died in 132 AC so he ruled for 29 years, Rhaenyra and Alicent are 35.

Actually not at all there is no law that has been broken so no crime has actually been committed

​@@brianalex5083are you always so literal?

Agreed, but successions finale season took 3 spots. A shame

Not just nominated, he should have won. This episode in particular, the only other portrayal I've seen of such a powerful example of the pain and regret at the end of life is the music video for the "Hurt" cover by Johnny Cash.

Marked

I choked so hard! - Suzy

⁠@@SuzySteejoAnd it’s said this was improvised and not in the script. Matt Smith just went with it when Paddy Considine’s crown accidentally fell off.

@@BornInsane0 Merely relaying a commonly shared detail of this emotional episode. The actors themselves have commented on that detail not being in the script, but an improvised action from Matt Smith. Having not been in the room, I can’t comment on the exact details of how it occurred.

For my mind Viserys is up there with Ned Stark both are in a league of his own as a GOT character someone almost to good for this world but at least he got to live a longer life and see his grandkids.

He didn't even want to marry Alicent, he only did it because he was pressured to do so. I imagine it would be very difficult to love children with a person you never wanted to have kids with in the first place.

​@@jaegerthedane3245 never wanted to have kids in the first place? So why didn't he stop at aegon and let her be, instead of getting her knocked up her entire teenage years and then not caring for any of them in the future

@@Knicknox Yeah, and him calling for her to have sex in the middle of the night in ep 4

@@jaegerthedane3245 i do think he loves alicent and her kids, but never in the same way he loved eamma (?). I think a big part of him died with her and he could never find the same meaning with his new family.

​@@jaegerthedane3245 whole reason for marriage was to have male heirs and that dumb guy never paid attention to his male heirs 😂

The intros are iconic!!!

Don't hold back Suzy! People can always skip it!!

I love the rants myself. Especially yours. Usually I agree but even when I don’t it’s hilarious. Have an awesome weekend love.

Apparently the disease that the king has is meant to be similar to an aggressive type of leprosy. I heard it in an interview with one of the show runners it was George RR Martin's idea.

Love the intro rants they are awesome!

Daemon is loyal to his blood, his family and their legacy first and foremost. He loves Rhaenyra because she is pure to him, his niece and the daughter of two Targaryans. He is a Targaryan supremacist for better or for worse, and I wish his brother understood this better about him. He wouldn't have had a fiercer ally and protector than Daemon.

​@@anarudiaz yes we all know how loyal he was to Rhenyra when he found nettles . He is just Joffrey with Dragon

@@AK-pw3oq lmao he must’ve killed your favorite character or something

Alicent doesnt know that. Viserys has already expressed doubt in the past. In episode 3 or 4 he speaks with her in the fire and says "What If I was wrong?" I saw in the fire Aegon being crown" etc... that already plants the seeds of Viserys having doubt if Aegon should be the heir. Then, he speaks to Alicent about an Aegon, it's completely normal she thinks is her son, she has no clue Rhaenyra and him spoke before. Specially when Alicent was finally getting closer again with Rhaenyra.

@@Alejojojo6 I understand your words and partially agree. But won't a person ask himself why for 20 whole years the king did not change his mind and in his dying delirium said something completely different?

What ? Was Alicent supposed to know the story by magic when she had no idea about prophecy 😂 . Did you knew about prophecy when u used to watch GOT ?

I don't know if he really appreciated alicent and aegon, especially aegon and his kids with alicent in general, it's hard to think of them as viserys' kids you know, and that's a big reason why they turned out the way they did, and alicents influence with her growing resentment for rhae, especially with viserys' not focusing on any of his other kids as much as rhae

@@harshahir3176 he was worst father. I mean whole reason of his second marriage was to have male heirs and that dumb guy never paid attention to his male heirs.

He's just a whiney little shit. Plus I think he is the one tha assaulted that serving girl, not Aegon.

The Pink Dread 🐷 😂

@@L.L.Cool.T luke shouldn't have laughed about it tbh, he already took his eye and now laughing at him? the audacity

@@kaboom3423 Alicent just wanted to see Rhaenyra appreciate her duty, because she has sacrificed so much to said duty. Rhaenyra saw she had cared for his dad and apologize for her lies and attitude to her. Alicent felt listenned thus apologized back and saw her as the heir.

Also, sleeping with multiple reason was a lot more dangerous due to STD and a lack of contraceptives.

@@CatotheE Pretty sure STDs don't exist in Westeros. Tyrion visited every brothel in the land and never had any ailments.

@@fluffylittlebear They do. It’s mentioned in the books. For example, when Theon’s looking for his squire, he says he’ll beat him if he catches him near one of those poxy whores. For whatever reason, main characters that frequent brothels don’t get it, but they do exist.

The biggest difference is that the claim to the throne is through Rhaenyra, thus her kids' father doesn't matter since they share HER blood and claim. Ntm, Laenor fully knew and supported Rhaenyra in her getting pregnant with someone else to create her heirs and secure her claim. Cersei was cuckholding Robert without him knowing, and her children don't have a claim to the throne since they don't share blood with Robert. Passing off her bastards as Robert's was not the same as Rhaenyra saying her children are trueborn for those reasons.

Not to mention that if the truth ever came out, it would throw the whole line of succession into doubt, the children would likely be exiled or executed and Rhaenyra would be disinherited and sent off to Oldtown to become a septa

The illegitimate children were recognized by Corlys, Rhaenys and Laenor. That's not supposed to be an issue. And since Luke was going to marry Rhaena, Valaryon bloodline could've continued. Whereas with Robert, I think if he had known Joffrey wasn't his, he wouldn't have let him ascend the throne.

@@abbygonzales9464 If it's not an issue, why not admit they're bastards and legitimize them the way Ramsey was legitimized ?

@@Mutazili I said it's not supposed to be. But it is for Vaemond and Alicent.

@@abbygonzales9464 They are obviously bastards. It's an open secret. Just like Ned did with Cersei's kids, which were far less obvious (and also recognized by Robert) he would have done the same and seek someone else to wear the crown.

​@@Alejojojo6 Yes, they're OBVIOUSLY bastards. But the difference is, Robert had no idea that Joffrey wasn't his in GoT. In HOTD, even with the knowledge of their true parentage, Viserys doesn't mind the fact that Jace is to become Rhaenyra's successor as Corlys agreed to Luke inheriting Driftmark. The two rulers in HOTD are fully aware of the situation and agree, meaning that Rhaenyra's children aren't deceiving anyone or committing any crimes to inherit anything. As for Cersei, she committed treason by lying to Robert about Joffrey. And I don't think Ned would support Vaemond as he is not the Master of Driftmark nor does he have any claim to it. If Ned had to choose, he would be loyal to the crown. But honestly, if he could help it, I don't think he'd want anything to do with the south.

I'm not sure how anyone could look at this king and think 'he's a good man'.

In the book, Jace, Luke and Joffrey have brown hair and eyes and a flat nose, while Laenor is blonde, with violet eyes and an aquiline nose. Rhaenys has the violet eyes of the Targaryens, but the THREE boys do not have any Targaryen characteristics, it is obvious.

'Loyalty'? That's a laugh.

in the show it's the skin and the hair, but in the books it's the nose that gives them away

@@Longshanks1690 except they aren't babies. Jace (15), Luke (13) and Joffrey (12) are described to have the same nose, brown hair and eyes (laenor had white hair and lilac eyes)

It’s pretty obvious that they were bastards in the books too.

@@Longshanks1690 How is it not?

@@Longshanks1690 well, Baratheon genes are said to be dominant, but how do you explain laenor and laena?

This!

the scene with joffrey was cut because the two infant actors were in the same scene when they arrived to kings landing, the little boys were very irritable so they cut the scene.

@@crystall.411 Had not heard that but that is the kind of thing I thought might have happened. Because it did seem odd that we never saw him there.

There are people who actually think he was being masculine? Huh. Learn something new everyday.

It’s funny because they’re actually completely opposites once you look into their characters way more than just the surface

​@@sofia-ou3ufBoth are arrogant, wild, and a little nuts. Neither of them respect authority all that much with Daemon never seeming to listen to anyone (except his brother a few times) and Criston Cole being the only adult who Aemond seems to listen to and respect (sometimes) -Both are willing to do awful things to further their side winning the war. (Aemond kills his 12 year old nephew, and Daemon sends men to kill a 9 year old boy, for example) -Both of them support their elder brother's claim to the throne -Both of them seem to hang out with the "weirder" folks of society (Daemon with all his friends and Aemond with Alys who is later called a witch and so forth) -Both of them are really good fighters (with Aemond practically carrying the greens throughout the war, and Daemon being Daemon) -Both of them are deemed to be reckless and dangerous by people on their own sides -And they both go out in the most badass way possible. The Targaryen way. (HoTD better not screw up that fight scene) -Aemond is literally Daemon with the "D" moved to the back -Both have aspirations for the throne as well (Daemon literally desiring the throne for ages and Aemond remarking how the crown looks better on him than it ever did Aegon) -Both of them are entertaining af I think that given the time to grow up Aemond would have ended up a lot like Daemon seeing as he quite literally is a younger version of Daemon. I really hope the show keeps them book accurate and that they don't make one the "moral authority" and the other a "monster" because frankly both of them have clearly shown the capability for monstrous behavior (Aemond killing his nephew and later barbequing the shit out of the Riverlands. And Daemon having done so much bad shit it would take a paragraph or two just to talk about it all). Either way I think these two characters really are two peas in the same pod and both are definitely the most interesting characters in the Dance for me.

they're completely opposite (other than the looks) 1- aemond is calm and trains and studies and respect westrosi laws and traditions WHILE daemon owns brothels and always drunk and lazy and loath westrosi laws and traditions. 2-aemond seeks power because he thinks its his only safe place and he deserve it considering he got bullied for not having POWER WHILE daemon seeks power to have his brother's attention and respect and to prove himself to others that he's someone rather than a drunken depraved prince called "lord of flea bottom". 3-aemond thinks he'll be better king than his brother WHILE daemon wants to prove himself to his brother. 4- aemond used to take care of his older brother aegon WHILE daemon was always have been taken care of by his older brother viserys, so aemond is more of a responible and grown up than rogue daemon. the only thing they share is that both of them are unpredictable

Thank you so much