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33 minutes. I totally agree with her point that some don't want to get their hands dirty so they focus on softer and (potentially) less important issues. This is so true and symptomatic of so many so called activists and campaigners, and severely undermines the push and struggle for real change on important issues.

@Marina E Yes, I see what you mean.

Slavery and work are not the same thing. Stop confusing them, your arguments only make it easier to prosecute sex workers and enable extra-regulatory abuses, just like all other labour.

Archeologists have found that hairdressers came before prostitution and before them the people who made tools like knives and such.

The one prior is pimp. ( I would note that prostitution surely precedes printed money.)

@@nickcharles1284 Sure, but what relevance does 'printed' add? No matter the form of currency, money is money. Also, as I think Julie said in the interview, midwifery almost certainly predates prostitution.

Re: money: money is printed or minted currency. I associate 'paid' with money. Trade is trade. As you note it is a minor aside. I would say the oldest profession is agriculture. As it results in a tradable item within the context of an organized community. (Certainly there were parallel professions e.g. pottery). Prior to that 'midwifery' was simple what happened naturally: women helping women give birth and not rewarded with currency. @@as3609

People were lazy during their history class so they only know the one.

That was fucking brilliant!

Hitler IS a mid level dictator!! Feminists don't know much about history. Stalin was worse, Mao was wayyy worse. There's current day people who are legitimately worse, proof of which is that I cannot tell you who I think they are because the comment would never be seen. I don't think traumatised damaged people can lead large movements without bias that's asking for trouble. This woman needs less stress not more!

@@DailyCorvid as someone who’s family lost everything when Mao took over in 1949 and had to flee, you’re 110% right. The stubby moustache man was horrible but far from the worst from an honest perspective

@@brutustantheiii8477 Ten years ago this is the point I would have made a funny joke about Hitler still being alive in the body of a current UK politician! But it just so happens that the current guy isn't white, and so any joke I make will be reconstructed as a Nazi salute and I shall be impaled on the end of it then castrated. So I shant. Lol. I hope you and your family did manage to recover to a decent standard of life. You're in a better country and situation now I bet! Making comments on KZfaq where the worst oppression you will see is comment moderation lol.

Lol one comment doesn't make someone sane dum-dum.

I was in a French class back in 2005ish. The teacher asked the predominantly female class who identified as a 'feminist'. Almost no one. She was horrified that women ranging in age, occupation and race didn't want the label of feminist which in her mind was Julie's generation of warriors; not today's clique of whiners.

I do fully agree. 👍 I didn't know her until to this great and honest conversation. A conversation of clear common sense, brutal truth of reality, talking about these deep self betrayal and lies including the ridiculous childish feminist- whining. She reminds me very much of Alice Schwarzer in Germany.

15 years ago my favorite english teachers in highschool were feminists. They exuded a love for the subject of English and were perfectly happy to talk about feminism but didn't bully anyone with rhetoric into echoing their beliefs back at them. They gave me a great respect for feminists and a lifelong love of English. Sadly, my most disliked lecturer in university is an English lecturer who claims she's a feminist but she is of the contemporary kind that can't define what a women is. Her classes are heart breaking. I've lost all respect for the modern incarnation of feminism and those that support it. I've learned that the contemporary form of feminism is a pseudo-feminism that doesn't care about women except for those women that agree with their beliefs. It bullies people to see the world their way and dehumanizes those that don't. I'm well aware of respectable feminists existing. They're the sort who faced bullets in Iran not too long ago, they show an actual understanding of men's psych and issues and get called terfs for mentioning the biological differences between men and women or arguing against allowing men in women's spaces. I still respect feminists, just not all of them and know for sure that not all feminists that call themselves feminists are in fact, feminists. Anyone who wants a good English education are better off downloading textbooks and taking courses on KZfaq. Much cheaper too.

​@@constancemiller3753 That's a shame. I'm a proud second wave feminist.

Yet women put down women who choose putting their family first. Is that liberation ladies?

I don't want my son to be a soldier and die but its his choice.

What of those who have no academic success and end up in low-paid work? Why should they stay skint just to please feminists? rsvp Bindel should stick to her own crowd- what of gay-guys who are hookers? rsvp

@@martin5504 I really hope you don't have a daughter

@@martin5504 Thats not comparable. In many countries you are forced to have at least basic military training as a man, in a lot of countires you need to to serve several years in military as a man. Comparing sex work with by law enforced military service does not compute. And it is still in nearly all countries, that (only) a man is supposed to serve in war, but not women. Both cases should be completly free choices made by the individual. Another case is enforced sex work by women which get kidnapped into other countries or get lurde here by criminal organisations with promises and so forth. Completly different thing and discussion.

No. Hence why I don't date women who do that. They need help, not to be taken advantage of.

This happened to me as an ex hooker. It's legal here. Totally sapped my confidence. Couple years in to a normal job and I'm getting it back

@@snoozyq9576 All best, Snoozy. I hope everything keeps coming together for you.

​@@snoozyq9576 It always seemed to me that transitioning from a lot of money for a short amount of time investment (sex work) to a normal job where you make drastically less money for far more time and effort is difficult for people to accept as well. Especially if you're getting paid hundreds or even thousands of dollars an hour as a prostitute. But one can't hook forever, and I'm not aware of many hookers who saved up and retired early. They usually spend what they get self-medicating.

@@Genarii Where I live all the hookers are junkies. They are dishing out blowjobs on street corners for like £20 because that's all they're gonna get. Most of them have no teeth and and seriously underweight. Not all sex workers are in the same circumstances. Some might be really attractive, have had a good family life and charge a lot of money and in my opinion then that's their choice. I don't feel sorry for these people. It's the ones who've grown up the hard way (abused, no family, junkie family, trafficked, etc) and ended up with a habit and to feed that habit they will do whatever for a quick fix. It becomes their life and I can't imagine a life much worse.

​@@Genarii The idea of working a short amount of time is a myth of the s industry. You end up working the same hours as a regular job shift. Sometimes you make no money. Sometimes you make lots of money. It's not a dependable source of income. It all depends on how many customers come in at any given time while you're on shift and how much money they're willing to drop.

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Feminism is bullshit.

You must not have been paying attention then.

You should be embarrassed, that's gay

@@grapenut6094 Hater lol

Right? Before I knew about more recent feminist agenda, I didn’t know what people would reel at describing oneself as a “feminist”. But still, I thought, one has a right to keep describing oneself with the word, even if others have gone off the deep end somewhat, eh? Now, I’m finally turned off by using the word casually to be associated with blatant narcissists and predators. Not to mention all the issues that HAVE NOT been discussed or objected to by current feminist movements.

Liberation from what?

@@fioafionawright8604 You might be asking that question because your are coming from a place of priviledge. Many women around the world still seek libration from men and do not have rights to their own bodies, to educate themselves, to have their own finances etc. Don't forget only 47 years ago was a woman allowed to have her OWN BANK account in the UK.

Modern “feminism” and those that go by that moniker certainly aren’t, think a much better and more accurate quote is five comments above this.

@Suicide Booth astounded the comment got so many likes but no one’s explained what feminism is liberating modern women from? besides responsibility.

@@fioafionawright8604 Liberation for nature and responsibility. You don't have to be married long to notice that if you divide the work load up based on who is good at what, you end up with something like the traditional roles, in most of the cases. I don't thi kji could every understand the connection between a mother and their baby. And I don't think women will ever understand what it feels like to be the expendable one, and expected to die to save women and children.

Yeah. Sad.

Acceptable, yes. Worthwhile? I'll make the distinction this way: I don't mind if a friend has a somewhat different opinion to me, such as, I like Star Trek, and they like Star Wars - we both think movies are cool. But someone who was to outright say "I don't watch movies, I hate them..." Well, while that's certainly their choice, and I would respect that, I also know that we likely wouldn't get on very well, so no value to be gained in trying to be their friend. I'll say one thing for the past two years: It's made me Very comfortable with cutting unnecessary people from my life. That's not 'echo-chamber thinking', but an acknowledgement that if there's no conversation to be had at all, there's no point in future interaction.

It still is in my world - though I have to fight for it at times :-)

Absolutely. You don't have to agree with someone to talk respectfully with them.

@@TimParker-Chambers so if you knew them before they made that statement and got on otherwise, would you cut them out of your life or just stick to other topics?

i'm actually a victim of this. took alot of will power to stop

Sex is healthy and it's especially healthy for men. Men were seeing prostitutes LOOOONG before the internet existed.

So many don't take sex addiction seriously but the brain literally makes it's own drugs.

I think the problem is mostly in the eye of the beholder, in this case the psychotherapist.

@@kellharris2491 it's also indicative of a bigger issue: men need sex to be healthy, it's how humans evolved, and men look at porn only because they are not getting the real thing. All the people who have a problem with the existence of porn are just spinning their wheels. Men will never stop being sexually minded.

@@guyincognito8440 subtle enough for you to miss

She does some very important work and very necessary. She's also insufferable and says some dumb stuff.

​@@mgkos ???

Fair enough.

@Suicide Booth : No, that not correct. I suggest you go back to the eighties to read more on the beginnings. Initially the trans movement did have feminists support but that waned as early as 2000 when the socialist global mob took over feminism and cast out the real feminists like Greer, et al. [EDIT: Do you realise feminism has two distinct branches ? ]

@Suicide Booth The trans movement is a corporate fiction created to open up new markets for profit and sneakily presented as a human rights campaign. Behind all those fragile 'identities' and corporate branding theres just men and women, boys and girls and a cashed up juggernaut driven by autogynephile men.

@Suicide Booth It always feels like I just touched an electric fence when I hear or read someone saying that females are the blame and responsible for men/males pretending to be female. It truly is a WTH shock. So, females used what power to get a man/male to decide they think they are a female...and then "get" them to act on it? Whenever I see or hear this kind of nonsense (stupidity really), I'm thinking this is a person that holds a deep issue with and against females. You need to go back in your booth, Booth. Although, I will agree with you that today we are at a level of lunacy with the trans movement. But these are men/males that are pretending to be female. So, following your logic, it is men/males that are pulling our fabric to shreds because they are now at the top of "victimhood".

Trans women are women.

My biggest issue is that many of them aren't even victims. They make up slights and want to be victims so they get sympathy and attention from others. I think we have swung too far from the old days of "shut up and get on with it" to now where everything is a slight and everyone is a potential victim. Stoicism has been replaced with permanently feeling sorry for oneself.

Why has no one ever pointed this out before!

One of the few things she said that I actually agreed with. Still a good interview though.

Honestly I've always thought that but the woman bashing stuff was just the cherry on the cake

That made me chuckle too...another luxury commie

What I do admire about JB is that she focuses very much on the women who are far from rich and powerful positions. And she doesn't shy away from difficult issues. She walks the walk. And too few women who call themselves feminists will do that.

I agree there. I'm not fond of her and I disagree with her a lot. But she has my respect.

Why? She was a criminal and a thief. She believes in microaggressions. She complained about feeling women had to be lcked in their homes for their safety and then IMMEDIATELY locked all men in their homes and was happy about it. She's a hypocrite. A criminal. And a Femnazi. Why would you give a shit or give any respect to such a despicable, vile human being?

@@ehnanimoose2092 pfff, you obviously can't look over her past and past opinion. You obviously the woke type that can never forgive and forget. Her points about male abuse, discrimination in criminal law (which has many aspects, she deals with one certain aspect of it), and prostitution are worthy of attention. Whatever there is in her past.

@@richardkovacs2006 I made my comments when I got fed up with her idiocy and left the video. If she said something worthwhile after all her toxic idiocy drove me away, it's too little too late. I gave her a chance. She proudly yipped about her privilege as a woman and started waving her femnazi flag around. Exactly how much drivel and stupidity do you expect me to listen to before it's "ACCEPTABLE" in your wokist locust eyes to write somebody off as not worth listening to?

@@ehnanimoose2092 Why? Because she's one of the few of her ilk who actually has the balls to sit down and have a conversation and share her views with the other side. She may have some out there ideas that a lot of us can't get on board with, but at least she isn't afraid of that disagreement. In a way, by doing this, she has taken the revolutionary step of getting both sides back together for a real, honest discussion. That's so important in turning the tide back to sanity and common sense. You don't have to respect everything a person has said and done to give them credit where credit is due.

She's well meaning but wrong. Paying for sex is a way to compensate for differences in desire and risk associated with partnered sex. It goes primarily male to female because females bear -- quite literally! -- the burdens of risks in such sex acts.

At that moment I wanted to punch him. I mean for fucks sake

Very straight talking 👌🏼

Yes. In truth it's often the culture and upbringing that does it. The life example of Men that they grow up seeing. And some Men always decide to break the cycle and be better examples then their Fathers.

You do realize... most feminists beleive this right? Yes, even the modern ones you hate so much... often it seems to be men most of the time that rather think this with some of the excuses they make about rape and promotion of toxic masculinity (which yes, is absolutely learned and thaught as the only way to be a "real man") Proof you men just refuse to listen to women the majority of time lol.

​@@kellharris2491it's not necessarily the example they see but what they experience directly. Child abuse is the #1 problem in our world, although few people view it like that (because most people are repressing their own childhood trauma so they have a blindness around it). Our bodies store up our experiences and play them back later on other people and/or ourselves... IF we're not able to see the abuse we went through and get in touch with our feelings about it. And the abuse comes from both mothers and fathers, not just fathers.

I remember seeing a study that most abusers come from a single mother home. So unless the mother is programming her boy to beat women then that’s crap.

It's bullshit. In western society its the opposite.

Your son can though, eh ?

"They've gone to Durham university", I believe is the expression.

I am In this profession and Julie offers a very one sided view on the matter. I hope trigonometry also interviews people from the other end of the spectrum.

Is a woman who demands expensive dates before the bedroom a prostitute? If not why not? Sex has always been transactional. In some countries there are girls who go out when they're feeling frisky and find guys in bars etc that they find attractive and make clear they expect money. Are they sex workers?

Julie and her supporters won’t understand that simple fact. Why the activity that is frowned upon if it’s for pay but it’s completely acceptable when it’s done for nothing?

Exactly! Fire fighters wear their gear for a reason and if women are less sage because they have ill fiting equipment its not enough to say that its a historically male dominated field. Women are in the field in the present day and why should their employers be off the hook in catering for their basic safety needs.

If the uniforms fit badly on women and its know and still not changed then women aren't being considered, so it's kind of sexist

My thoughts exactly… How dangerous is ill-fitting gear? And how come the gear made for women isn’t available now?

Yet women put down women who choose putting their family first. Is that liberation ladies?

LOL, Julie Bindel and middle ground. She is SWERF incarnate.

⁠@@ouwebrood497what’s SWERF?

@@PunkinBeets Sex Work Excluding Radical Feminist

@@ouwebrood497And thank god for that! Any woman should be proud to be a SWERF!

Agreed, I hate that "educate yourself." You know they mean you will not be properly "educated" until you believe same as them. Chaps my ass!

Yes she has the clout of someone that has done real things at the sharp end rather some wank puffin pontificating on twitter .

Best thing about Julie is you can disagree with her and still have mutual respect.

@@chrispercival9789 yep.what some one is transcends their ideology. This may be hard to fathom for some people.

i would love to have a heated debate with her, because i know she wouldn't shy away from it and blame its heatedness on my male violence traits, but she would argue her points with educated intellect

That is the way it should be I dont agree with anybody 100% so the madness that anybody that dont agree 100% with you is an enemy is just crazy.

Julie Bindel is not honest.

yeah, most teen pregnancies are caused by men 25-35 as well. and young girls are often subject to boys testing boundraries and older mens fantasies. It doest stop when u get older, but you learn to see it coming a mile away.

@@blah914yeah I’ve been traumatized by my first sexual experiences. He wouldn’t tell me what he wanted to try or do, he would just do it. It was so scary.

@@sophiacalon3463 😢 im sorry that happened to you ❤️

There is a show on one of the crime networks called 'Undercover Underage' about a young looking 38 year old woman who has all these aliases as a 15 year old Instagram content creator in order to see how many older men would follow her. Its chilling how many older men are interested in teenage girls. She sets up a sting, and when she gathers enough evidence, hands it over to the police.

@@paulinegallagher7821 Terrifying.

Not just foolish. It's a dangerous stance. This is the same tripe Jessica Chastain told her giant audience: don't do self defence because men should just not rape.

Agree completely, women are not children I’m sick of being infantilised

A child like one

It’s weird bc I understand what you’re saying butif you apply that to gang rape in India for eg it doesn’t make any sense. Certain things do have to be eradicated in society & people do deserve to live in a society where basic safety is guaranteed. That’s kinda the whole point of living in a civilised society.

Exactly. The comment I hear way too much is "men have to stop raping woman" .....like men for some reason in general support rape.

Exactly! I was looking for THIS

Should females be fire fighters? I suppose if they can pass all phycial requirements the same as the male fire fighters that would be fine, but most women are not as physically strong by men. Seems reasonable that most fire fighters are and should be men.

​@@brendancoulter5761yep. Just like the actual policing side of the police. It's a meme the amount of arrests policewomen are overpowered by. We should be behind the scenes working with victims and whatnot.

If they can get in without standards being changed then sure.

Not to mention birth control. I believe the pill for men didnt make it through trials and was cancelled bc the men were experiencing all of the same side effects women have suffered with while on the pill and still do.

there was ONE car company that did. ONE. i dont remember which one, but if im ever buying a car, thats the one im getting.

@@blah914probably volvo, I’d guess

Let me ask you a question: how much extra would you like to pay for an add-on to the standard seatbelt (of course that comes with the car) that allows every individual with any kind of body type, height, and condition (like pregancy) to be equally safe? What would be your budget for such a feature on a brand new car? Alternatively: if all cars came with such device, how much would your budget for a brand new car shift?

@Icewateronskin .... you're acting as if females as some kind of special species, and not half the population of the earth

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To be fair, social movements always tend to be primarily focused on mid to upper class people, the working class is practically a separate world where you see what actvists talk about, then you look around the shithole where you live and almost none of it applies.

Why do working class women matter more than working class men?

Sorry I dont believe that for a second ! A woman has just to accuse a man of any kind of crime and this man is in deep trouble ! So, sorry, I dont believe that for one bit ! And how come you were in a relationship with a predator ? Didn't you see ANY red flags when you met this man ? Or was that the great appeal and attraction you felt towards this man from the start ? And before you begin bashing on me My thoughts on any kind of abusive toxic and destructive relationship, is that the one (man or woman) acting that way should rot in hell and in the meantime should be punished end thrown in jail/prison !!! Women can also be the one who is abusive toxic and destructive in a relationship !!! And that is just the reality !!!

@@seriously1184 I really recommend that you explore the psychology behind domestic abuse. It is an extremely well documented issue that leaving ones abuser is very difficult. That way you can stop judgimg strangers on the internet without any knowledge into their personal business.

@@Shasha-jo5iv Oh you mean like battered wife syndrome ? Or maybe even the Stockholm syndrome ? Or do you mean the personality disorders (clusters A, B and C) mentioned in the DSM-5 ? Or maybe you mean ALL the other disorders mentioned in the DSM-V ? Yeah, unfortunately I know a lot of this matter, because I had to inform myself into this just to be able to navigate through this world full of dysfunctional and very destructive and very toxic people ! So which part of psychology do you mean or are you referring to ?

​@@seriously1184 Sorry I beleive you're a wasted opportunity for crib death. And that's just the reality !!1

​​@@Shasha-jo5iv admirable, but you can't talk any sense into men like this. He is absolutely blinded by hatred of women-probably originating from hatred of his mother-and believes any abuse we get is right and proper. Any time we step out of line and talk about our rights or the reality of abuse against women, he will rave and rant and whinge about how we dont actually have it bad _enough._ This is a permanent toddler filled with an adult man's rage... and they project like _we're_ the hyper-emotional ones! LOL anger is an emotion, bucko!

She ran from jesse lee peterson😮

how did she change your views on it?

How so?

Yet women put down women who choose putting their family first. Is that liberation ladies?.

Libertarian is about having the personal liberty to do pretty much whatever as a personal choice, not a moral code that any personal choice is acceptable. You're completely free to ruin yourself as long as you don't affect other people's own personal liberties. How common this concept flies over the heads of people...

I was unmoved by her arguments, "I know better than you, you shouldn't be doing sex work, you should be cleaning a sewer somewhere". She points to problems that exist but doesn't give any solutions.

100% agree

Exactly. As a woman, I would be quite comfortable with few to no female firefighters. Women need to be realistic. I don't think there are any true feminists in a burning building or foxhole when shit is going down.

@@vanessac1721 explain women in military all around the world..Fighting war I’m guessing is more dangerous than firefighting

Have you ever seen a female FF?

@HelenaBlack80 yes, and one that speaks out about this crp is Lucy Masoud. She is now a barrister.

She's full of shit.

Work and slavery are not the same thing. Also, maybe as someone who is disabled in our society you could understand how differently people may think about their own vs others sexuality. Not everyone feels identically, that's just Bindels privilege showing. Do you know artists who sell work they care about? Do you know artists that sell cheap work. Do you know artists that don't or shouldn't sell their work at all? Same goes with any labour. Capitalism alienates all of us from our passions. Bindel hates trans women too, she's also supported Peter Singer who publishes primarily to advocate for the extermination of disabled people like yourself and I. Bindel mimes being gay as a political choice too. She's even admitted it and advocated others to do the same.

You are lucky because you know what real love and intimacy feel like and how preferable they are to empty, emotionless exchanges. Unfortunately not everybody has experience of that & knows what it feels like, so they content themselves with lifeless substitutes for the real thing.

and if you see the state of most prossies haggered, no teeth due to being drug addled, dirty and old clothes most of the time, disgraceful these punters must be so, so low down..!

@@jesipohl6717 Mimes being gay? You mean she's straight at heart? I would identify her as a lesbian from a mile's distance. Of course impressions may be wrong, but everything in her appearance, way of speech, mannerisms etc. gives this sort of signal.

Women like Julie are the reason I still feel comfortable calling myself a feminist despite being exasperated by 90% of what gets passed off as feminism in this day and age.

Feminism is bullshit.

People don't understand the history of feminism. It' has always been very divided with extremes on both sides.

I feel the same! Let’s claim the term feminist back.

The term has been destroyed and redefining completely.

Yes! So glad for this valuable conversation to bring balance to the Force ❤

The only issue is, she was neither properly challenged on her position on sex work, nor Is there a will from Trigg to invite someone who is able to counter her claims just as eloquently as she's made hers.

@John Doe Everywhere prostitution was decriminalised you see a rise in human traficking. The demand increases (guys feel less self conscious ab wanting to buy sex + don't fear the law anymore) The offer stays the same (how many people would be willing to get penetrated by 5+ strange men a day for money. Would you?) Because the offer stays the same but the demand explodes, pimps (many now reconverted into brothel owners) take women from other countries and bring them in trough coercion/manipulation/etc etc

That's the whole problem with inclusion. If it was simply a myth that men develop more physical strength, it would be a non issue. But since standards have to be lowered in military service, police and all other physical work that serve the community, it makes inclusion a dangerous thing indeed. There are very physically strong women that would hand my ass to me in a fight any day, but sadly that's not the reality of a big slice of women. A very trained woman and a very trained man trying to lift the same thing will yield different results. And that's my whole protest to all of this as well. We can argue about sports any day of the week, but public servant organizations and armies should find suitable jobs for those who cannot pass the bar. There's always something one can do that doesn't put lives at risk in those occupations. Women are just as cognitively gifted as men are and should use their brains and abilities to use without having to do the exact same jobs all the time.

I literally fantasise about Henry Cavill superman wisking me away and for the feminist zeitgeist, that's a big no no.

@@rodholseth6354 I would recommend the hypothesis put forward by Eric Kaufmann on the Free Speech Nation segment of GB news recently. Here is part of what he said; " Cultural socialism is the idea that public policy should be used to redistribute wealth, power, and self-esteem from privileged to underprivileged groups in society-notably, historically disadvantaged racial and sexual minorities and women. The term “socialism” is used here in the European sense of egalitarianism..." He also said that according to Cultural Socialism, these concerns should trump the free speech rights of people.

@stormybirds Of course I'm not talking about barring women from military service. But the same standards need to be kept for everyone. Men and women.

Exactly, but the stand up comedians didn't challenge her on that point, they barely scraped the surface.

Yet women put down women who choose putting their family first. Is that liberation ladies?

Why do women kill there children far more then men , and fathers not to see there children ,,,, lets bang on about that ,,, Australia ,,,

That's nonsense It's not true that society expects us to hate woman or that there is that prejudice against us. It's a small minority of radical, woke feminists who think that. Most people (who are all mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters,...) think (luckily) differently. Dry your tears and get back to yourself. The world is not as bad as a small minority wants you to believe.

@@thewatchtower8330 Until you have to enter the government policy created by them. Then you enter a Kafka-esque nightmare that many don’t escape with their lives from.

It is scary that her awful statement is considered a positive one.

What society were you raised in that expected you to hate women?

@@siggyincr7447 Well it wasn’t a fairytale land. You must be brand new. No man of a certain age would ever make a comment like that.

The ideal world can't protect against the real world.

That’s like saying we should be able to leave our doors unlocked and not get burgled, where as in truth our best option is to try and keep ourselves as safe as possible.

If you were walking down th falls road , in the dark , wearing an Orange sash on a Marching Day , you'd not only be a fool , youd be a dead one ! Personal resposibility is EXACTLY that ! It's the same situation in ANY walk of life , WHATEVER the context ; wearing a liverpool shirt inEverton , waving a flag , any denomintion , in the middle east etc ETC... Where did common sense reatreat to nowaday's ...

@@mickyvionsellinas6743 how is this moronic crap still a thing in 2022?

But that's thing. Its like telling the robbed that they should have taken precautions and not gone out of the house in the first place. Believe me women do *everything* to keep themselves safe, from pepper sprays, to tasers. Yet somehow we are supposed to vebso safe that we don't step out at all.

You made it 17 minutes? You deserve a medal. lol

​​@@geroldgrimel4811true but if ugot no money you live in a tent under a bridge or stay with abusive partner but its the female who picked the wrong guy to be with yes a cynical view.

Shame. You may have missed out on some common ground you could've had. I've learned to listen more and give up less, especially when it comes to guests of Francis and Konstantin!

"Most men don't get away with murder with the excuse of depression" Men always (ALWAYS) get away with both rape and murder of women while being excused for it, people going "He's a good man", or "She must have provoked him", or "What was she wearing", or "He was a sad lone wolf". When men insult and harass women it's a "joke" or a "compliment", when men batter women it's "his way of showing love". The gaslighting that they don't is just pure evil. Please stop lying.

They’re not challenged really, I just see the deliberate omissions and misrepresentations that she makes. I really would like to see a sex work activist being invented in the show, that would show them as truly unbiased.

@@joanna9215 Yeah, I'd like to see someone from the other side make a rebuttle and I'm also aware of some of the information she omitted but she still made some points I hadn't thought about before as I have watched plenty sex worker advocates in the past.

I am curious which point she makes about prostitution is the one that changed your perspective? She literally changed nothing of mine so curious to know…

@@joanna9215 Being available for men 24/4 to be paid to get raped is not work

@@joanna9215 Mainly about the legalisation of it. TBH I don't agree with sex work. I don't think women should be subjected to it and I don't feel men should, as Julie says, feel they have a right to sex in any way but I've never wanted to shame anyone and thought legalisation would help make it safer in many ways. However in legalising it it also destigmatises it and would make it more accessible. Considering the percentage of people who use these services in countries where it has been legalised or at least decriminalised (30-40%) to the percentage in countries where it is still illegal (I can't remember if the 11% was for the UK or the US) and the blatant corruption of how 'pimps' could and would find ways to continue being abusive and dangerous I don't feel the argument of safety is strong enough to legalise it in terms of the harm it could do in other ways. Safety is of course a serious issue that I feel should be tackled in other ways than legalisation.

What are some of the points you disagreed w?

She is amazing. I think all of her points had merit, even if you may personally disagree with some.

​@@jacksonmcnuggets7488"everything is sexism" Well yesn't. She's more benign about it, because she has different priorities, but dear Lord.

The genetic need to reproduce is always going to be there. If it wasn't we wouldn't be. You will never get rid of the demand. The problem is the way society has warped our sexuality. We have comodified it. Porn doesn't need adverts. It's seeked out because of our programming. We need to cut the supply off and then the prerequisites of being in a stable relationship will return. No porn and sex workers will force men to step up and find a partner. As humans we like the easy route in most cases. We need to make the easy route through marriage again... Its a very messy situation with the blame laying at the feet of both sexs.

Beautifully said!

She hates men though, listen how she talks about male clients of sex workers.

She doesn’t care about vulnerable women, like anyone supporting the Nordic Model. She pushes for solutions that create more issues than it solves. Plus, she refuses to listen to people directly affected by those “solutions”, pretending she knows better than them.

Everyone does.. Proving you can care about women and also NOT be a bottom of the barrel type of person. You don't get respect for doing the bare minimum lol.

What does this “care” entail then, pretending to know better what the person wants, without asking them? Forcing people to accept “care” they themselves don’t like and punish them if they refuse? Sounds like a bottom barrel totalitarian type of person.

Nah she just seems to blame men and take away reasonability from women.

@@joanna9215 fascinating 🍿

Consensual adult transaction is rape? Interesting .

"Rape is rape" -- who gets do decide on the definitions? It's like saying "killing is killing." That's not how the law works.

I even heard she has chilled out on the 'everything is socially constructed' BS and at least she is willing to have a conversation. I first heard of her when she had a debate with Milo Yan.....whatever his name is about 5 years ago now

She's been a feminist long before most the intersectional feminist college students who get her cancelled have been alive.

Just argue with a brick wall, it has the same ability to make intelligent points.

@Suicide Booth Destroyed? You sound like a complete pillock.

@Suicide Booth milo I'd ridiculous he couldn't destroy anyone.

Feminism is bullshit.

Yes. It's great that they talk to so many different people, not all of who they agree with. But they give them all a fair hearing and a place to say what they need to. I can't say I like Julie Bindel, And I disagree with her in many ways. But she does make some perfectly good points that need bringing up.

Excellent point. These are meant to be conversations not debates. You have to let some stuff (even a lot of stuff) go in order to keep it on the level without people getting triggered. Cos triggered is actually a thing! Even if it's overused now and thrown around as an excuse to not even try to listen.

You mean like Joe Rogan? Don't worry people will seek to cancel them shortly

The point is we listened. I don't listen to screeching threats delivered by purple haired maniacs.

She certainly loves accusing men of being entitled

She is still a radical feminist tho. That in itself is wrong. Men are not the only perpetrators of r*pe and violent crime. Women are not the only victims. Penis is not needed to commit a r*pe, even though feminist pushed the definition of r*pe that excluded female perpetrators. Feminists almost never care about men or hold women accountable, especially radical feminists.

She ain’t that rational

She is. You just need to listen first@@manniefresh3425

Well said! She is wonderful

Totally agree

She's a homophobe

She’s 2nd wave not 3rd wave but yes

@@Aarenbyshe’s literally a lesbian you loon

These are all crimes. To bring feminism into them assumes that justice is not being served within the current judicial system, i.e. its fundamentally patriarchal and biased against women. Yes, there were a lot of 'Victorian' values sewn up in the courts in days gone by, based on specific roles men and women were supposed to play in society, though that could be equally prejudiced against men if they were seen to be acting outside of their role. We simply don't have this kind of society anymore and pushing women's priorities, which simply means lack of accountability in a lot of cases, over men's is only going to lead to more vitriol in men, which will invariably lead to more violence against women. We need to treat people as people, that's the only way we can get anywhere near a just society.

Some of those are crimes that exist outside UK. I think in UK men and women have their own issues at a more balanced measure than the way depicted above. Men are at higher risk of homicide (73% male) and suicide (approx 75%) as two examples.

@R K men are the biggest victims of violent crime, but also the majority perpetrators. Women have more self harm attempts men are more 'successfully the self harm endeavour. There is nothing wrong advocating/tailoring solution or bespoke programs for males and ones for female victims of crime or self harm. Men should feel free to set up support groups to help men and boys and women should be able to do so for women and girls.

"who fights for the truly oppressed, which are disproportionally women." Total bollocks. Men are overwhelmingly the victims of violence and murder. Almost every single example you give is totally wrong. Girls were being aborted because boys were legally required to pay for their parents retirement when they get older effectively making them slaves to their parents. Girls had no such responsibility. If I had to choose between being aborted or enslaved, I choose to be murdered before birth in a heartbeat.

@@zootsoot2006 "more violence against women" and there you go forgetting about men, in your own defence of men. It will lead to more violence period. As society falls apart, all violence will go up.

Nope

Well, that's what Julie said.

I would argue that the most important issue in the sex industry is the people profiting from it. The point about Dennis Hoff is strait on point. The idea that some random guy should be profiteering on women selling sex is disgusting.

Bindel not only believes all women should be "political lesbians" (lesbian by choice, her words), but she is just as confused about the differences between working with labour rights vs slavery. An artist selling art does not become a slave because money is involved. Arguably, anybody who has known an artist has probably also known one that values their art beyond all else. Bindel just hates certain women, she spreads this hate and hides her views about being merely a so-called "political lesbian" so that she can appeal to a broader base.

@@rara9770 No, that's not her narrative. At best, the 'happy hooker' is an extremely rare oddity in a cesspool of misery according to her. In reality, the vast majority of sex workers like what they do most of the time.

@@MrChickennugget360 Well if they don't like working for him - they're adults, they can work for someone else or work for themselves no? It's a free country. If it's going to be a job, there will always be a variety of people making money out of it, men and women, at different levels.

Thanks for the info. He's quite the complex character our Holy Patron.

@@Redrosewitch Every year in England, on St George's day, we get the same media commentators (usually in The Guardian) banging on that St George was actually Turkish. It drives me bonkers because a) he just wasn't and b) if you are going to construct a "gotcha" statement about Englishness, you really should get your facts right. So I shook my head most gravely when Francis said it in the ad. All those Guardian articles on St George's Day just flashed through my head, which was a very unpleasant experience.

Egalitarian seems like a more fitting description, tbh. "Feminist" is too divisive and carries a lot of negative baggage for me - especially after what I've learned about the movement over the years.

Hear, hear.

Camille Paglia is no feminist. She writes about and women's issues and that's it. She thinks that young middle class women should stop complaining about sexual harassment from men claiming that young working class women know how to deal with it. No, they don't. They accept it and when asked to jump by a man they ask "How high?" It doesn't occur to them to complain.

Never be a male feminist.

@@lemsip207 Camille Paglia is an intellectual that thinks beyond the narrow confines of feminism. She stopped at equal rights feminism and never joined man hating 3rd wave feminism or the cultural Marxist equity 4th wave. I’m with her.

Yet women put down women who choose putting their family first. Is that liberation ladies?

Despite the fact that women already have all rights that men have, perhaps even more (reproductive rights), and that men and boys fall behind in various areas, which feminists are totally not bothered with, although often falsely claiming that feminism has also been beneficial to men.

Yet women put down women who choose putting their family first. Is that liberation ladies?

She's less distasteful than most, that's all I will grant.

This woman has a brand of feminism called "radical feminism". I don't actually like the name - radical comes from the latin word for root and she is a root feminist, not an extremist. I learned most of my views on pornography and prostitution from radical feminism. Their critiques on BDSM and on trans ideology are also first class.

@@rethaf4387 Radical feminism is bullshit. Christina Hoff Sommers has debunked it over and over.