An Interesting Sharpening Stone But It Doesn’t Make Sense - Atoma Diamond Stone Review

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Atoma 600 grit diamond stone review. Is the atoma diamond stone any good for knife sharpening?
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Chapters
00:00 intro
00:12 Atoma stones are constructed differently
00:39 Waffle pattern diamonds
01:42 Diamond quality when new CLOSE UPS
02:22 Sharpening stone feel/feedback
02:58 sharpening stone after a lot of use CLOSE UPS
03:11 Value and pricing…weird..
06:01 Who is this stone for?
06:22 What a better value stone?
06:39 What stone makes your knife sharper?
07:33 some burr minimization
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@nafis6668
@nafis6668 20 күн бұрын
I'm using this for 4 years now , combined with Hapstone T1. My AUS10A was so sharp , I accidently sliced off a chunk of my flesh without feeling any pain.
@ARAW-__-
@ARAW-__- 20 күн бұрын
That happened to me once ! Was swiping my new izula with a towel, and the towel became red... heard the slice but didn't feel it.
@lindboknifeandtool
@lindboknifeandtool 20 күн бұрын
Those simple stainless chromium alloyed steels just get sharp. I have a feeling the size and hardness of the chromium carbide is easier to abrade so instead of readout you shape the large carbide. I noticed this with cts xhp too
@TalRohan
@TalRohan 20 күн бұрын
I did that on some chemically abraded non ferrous Stainless steel...those no resistance cuts go really deep
@TheAdequateMedia
@TheAdequateMedia 20 күн бұрын
glad to see you back brother. i know you'd mentioned some life stuff happening
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 20 күн бұрын
btw i buy a different layer of atoma and stick them on the opposite side which works well if you dont mind haveing a double sided stone
@littlebabycarrotful
@littlebabycarrotful 19 күн бұрын
That was my thought as well
@omfgbbqsauce1177
@omfgbbqsauce1177 16 күн бұрын
I had some reservations about this, being that the backs of the blanks aren't milled level, but went for it anyway and don't regret it
@Cid_1
@Cid_1 20 күн бұрын
I think the Atoma Economy stones (and replacement sheets) can make more sense some places in Europe, where some pay a 25% import tax on everything bought. So some might pick up an Atoma stone and a replacement sheet in a different grit to put on the back of the plate to make a double sided stone to save a few bucks.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 20 күн бұрын
Yes and even since publishing this video the price has increased🤷‍♂️🙂
@tombrown4683
@tombrown4683 20 күн бұрын
​@@OUTDOORS55I anticipated that happening.
@61hink
@61hink 20 күн бұрын
​@@OUTDOORS55I'm pretty sure a lot of products on Amazon have their prices automatically adjusted via algorithm. When sales are slow the price continually drops but as soon as people start buying the trend reverses.
@kadmow
@kadmow 20 күн бұрын
- ine could also simply stick the "replacement sheet" onto a glass substrate - or flat tile/bench end, as available.
@Minamisneo
@Minamisneo 20 күн бұрын
That stone does look super clean and nice to use. I feel like I have to get it before it goes up to $90 on Amazon now.
@suspicionofdeceit
@suspicionofdeceit 20 күн бұрын
Or out of stock like the Sharpal.
@Minamisneo
@Minamisneo 20 күн бұрын
@@suspicionofdeceit true
@Cyber_Kriss
@Cyber_Kriss 20 күн бұрын
Sticking with the Sharpal you suggested... very satisfied with this one.
@mjktrash
@mjktrash 20 күн бұрын
I haven't been following your deal, but I'm glad to see a new video popped up in my feed.
@lawrencem5943
@lawrencem5943 20 күн бұрын
Alex, I had asked you about the Atoma stone a few days ago without knowing you would put up a video on it. My Atoma is the newest of my stones and I am getting used to the feel of it. I agree that it cuts very good. I bought a 1200 grit and slapped a 600 grit on the other side. I have had two Sharpals and have given them away to my son and grandson, a very good product as well. I mainly use the S SATC for my kitchen knives since they are made of cheap steel. I use my Atoma for my fancy high HRC knives. I love your channel man. Greetings from New Mexico.
@krispytoo12
@krispytoo12 19 күн бұрын
I've been practicing what you preach about knife sharpening. I have yet to achieve the level sharpness you displayed at the end of this video but I have greatly improved my skills. Thank you for sharing some of your knowledge.
@kirillb.6001
@kirillb.6001 20 күн бұрын
Great review, thanks! I've just bought 2 Atoma stones last week - 600 and 1200 grit. Haven't had a chance to use them yet.
@calvertschmued2920
@calvertschmued2920 20 күн бұрын
Glad you reviewed this stone, you should check out microtome blades, they are used to cut tissue sections sometimes as thin as 5 microns thick. So as you can imagine they are scary sharp
@mladenvojinovic
@mladenvojinovic 19 күн бұрын
Nice outro Alex, stay strong, we love you man!
@RyanPlate
@RyanPlate 16 күн бұрын
Good review as always. Still enjoying and learning the Sharpal, but it does load up a bit. Quick rinse and pat dry solves that. Hope you're feeling well!
@Gillass
@Gillass 20 күн бұрын
glad to see you much better.
@MrSuperboxman
@MrSuperboxman 20 күн бұрын
that outro was flawless, love the music selection
@jeanladoire4141
@jeanladoire4141 20 күн бұрын
Your videos are pure gold
@jasonmartin1668
@jasonmartin1668 20 күн бұрын
I absolutely love the educational value of your channel! What would you suggest for a lightweight "travel sharpening"? I work in remote locations for months at a time so want something that's not heavy
@jeremygavisk5582
@jeremygavisk5582 19 күн бұрын
Love you videos and picked up a Sharpal after your recommendation. Do you have a video on cleaning diamond stones? Or a process you would give to a beginner?
@littlebabycarrotful
@littlebabycarrotful 19 күн бұрын
I've got the Atoma 140 and the 1200. I'd buy both again. If you're into straight razors the 1200 starts out as a decent way to set a bevel. When it finally breaks in like mine did, it basically puts a mirror on the bevel. I also finish most of my knives on it. They'll catch thick hair above the skin off the stone with no stropping, and that's usually with a microbevel.
@ltgray2780
@ltgray2780 18 күн бұрын
I bought the Sharpal a few months ago, and my 25 yr. old Heinkels kitchen knives are back to work. I have severe damage to my cervical spine, which makes hand sharpening painful and difficult, but with a little effort, they've come back to life. Thanks for your insightful reviews.
@Gringorican
@Gringorican 19 күн бұрын
Immediately bought one. Thanks 👍
@davidlewis620
@davidlewis620 17 күн бұрын
Alex, I forgot to mention, when I discovered your channel I ordered the Lansky Knife Sharpening System, very good for me. I like it!! Thanks to you I can do a better job at knife sharpening!
@foodonfire3662
@foodonfire3662 20 күн бұрын
Another winner. Do you make custom knives and if so, how to I learn about your offerings? Thanks.
@roderikvanrinsum2968
@roderikvanrinsum2968 18 күн бұрын
I got into knife sharpening few weeks ago (got the Sharpal) after backwatching your entire channel. Love the content. Can you do a video on how to sharpen thin kitchen knives without (or almost without) bevel?
@ssa7843
@ssa7843 16 күн бұрын
Love the vids! Could you make a review regarding sharpening SCISSORS ✂️ ?
@paulmartin2348
@paulmartin2348 20 күн бұрын
I have been planning to buy a diamond stone"s" to start doing some hand sharpening and I may just spend a bit more and buy this. As much use as it will get it will last me the rest of my life. Being a machinist I tent to be lazy and sharpen things on tool/cutter grinders. Thank you for another informative video.
@imimportantright
@imimportantright 20 күн бұрын
Hey! Love the vid. Just curious. After seeing the vids about coarse stone sharpness, im just curious how sharp they are before stropping. Im saving up for a proper stropping kit so for now im just deburring on the stone and im still getting shave sharp, but not hair whittling like yours! Any insight is much appreciated
@engelenf
@engelenf 20 күн бұрын
Hi Alex, I really like your videos. They are entertaining and very informative! I have been using the sharpal stone for a few months now for about 30 kitchen knives and I am at a point where I get the knife almost razor sharp. However, I never seem to get the tip of the knife sharp. Do you have any tips for that? Also I would really like it if you uploaded a video of you sharpening a kitchen knife.
@heyarno
@heyarno 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for testing all that stuff.
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 20 күн бұрын
I've been using a 140 Atoma for a long time, maybe close to ten years? I forget when they came out in the USA. It's still working fine! I do like the feel, very good for an arato. It's a good stone flattener, too, although maybe a bit expensive for that purpose.
@constantinosgogakis4945
@constantinosgogakis4945 20 күн бұрын
Thanks. Keep well🙏
@rvnerd7671
@rvnerd7671 20 күн бұрын
I, would like to see what your technique is on sharpening a 8" chefs knife on one of these diamond plates. You could just do some ASMR videos of sharpening blades like the ending segment of this video. It was oddly satisfying to watch.
@kadmow
@kadmow 20 күн бұрын
- also sharpening knives with serious curvature (cimeter style - butchers breaking knives)
@ChillyH2Omg
@ChillyH2Omg 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for all the great content! Would love to see your findings on using liquid in conjunction with diamond stones. Does it really make a difference in sharpening whether you use them dry or not? 🤷🏼‍♂️
@helterskelter156
@helterskelter156 20 күн бұрын
Been using my Atoma atones for ages, and they’re barely worn. I love the 140 for quick work and heavy reprofiling, especially.
@josefslotosch
@josefslotosch 20 күн бұрын
Bought two Sharpals, one for practice and one for backup. For the price it's hard to get such a value, considering they are double-sided. For recreational use I have Shapton Kuromaku 320/1000/2000 And for technical sharpening the toohr3 from Aliexpress, might change to the edge pro in the future. And for outdoors the field sharpener from work sharp. Your videos definitely helped me to save money and make some good decisions what to buy. Thank you for that.
@Jammer881
@Jammer881 20 күн бұрын
The replacement plate is also intended be added to the back of an existing stone. So with 1 plate you can have 2 grits thus saving space (a premium in Japan) and saving a few dollars
@jasonbeecher509
@jasonbeecher509 20 күн бұрын
Great looking system
@Flea-jz7yl
@Flea-jz7yl 17 күн бұрын
i bought a 6$ sharpener from home depot (it was labelled as an axe sharpener) and it gets kitchen knives extraordinarily sharp. its no substitute for a whetstone, since it uses rolling ceramic disks that don't reach the tip of the knife, but it is fantastic for low-angle knives.
@TalRohan
@TalRohan 20 күн бұрын
there is definitely a certain Zen to the way you sharpen blades, watching the process itelf is relaxing. thanks for the information on the Atoma
@normcleod360
@normcleod360 19 күн бұрын
I completely agree with your comment. I've sharpened my knives while listening, not watching his videos. It just puts me into that zone where I can Sharpen my focus while Honing my skills
@davidlewis620
@davidlewis620 17 күн бұрын
Hi Alex!! When I came across your channel I subscribed immediately. I am a senior citizen and learned knife sharpening through trial and error, mostly error! I need some advice. All the knives I have sharpened through my lifetime are scratched to hell. I didn't care, now I do!! How do I remove those scratches or at least reduce them? I enjoy your channel!!! Thank you!
@daemon1143
@daemon1143 20 күн бұрын
I've used this Atoma when sharpening stellite and zirconium tool bits, and it does a good job, but it sheds its diamonds like dandruff with these high hardness materials. Still looks like it'd be good for a couple of years though.
@beenabarna1403
@beenabarna1403 18 күн бұрын
Thank you
@goncalovazpinto6261
@goncalovazpinto6261 20 күн бұрын
The Sharpal comes with a very nice case/holder. Don't know what the Atoma comes with. Also, loved the closeup video of the knife being sharpened on those dimples! You could see the metal flakes grabbing on to the blade, I'm guessing because it develops a static charge.
@catshark12
@catshark12 20 күн бұрын
Awesome as usual.
@dzonib1
@dzonib1 20 күн бұрын
freakin love this channel
@michaellamont2413
@michaellamont2413 18 күн бұрын
I bought an Atoma diamond plate a few years ago and it is still cutting fine, down here in Australia there is a much bigger difference between the replacement face plates and a whole stone and in my case I bought a 400 grit plate and stuck a replacement 120 on the other side. It makes very short work of removing chips.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 18 күн бұрын
Yeah i had a feeling that different markets would have different pricing on that aspect 👍
@curtis9202
@curtis9202 20 күн бұрын
Hey Alex, In EU this atoma is definetly worth it! It has very similar price as US made stones, but it has advantages as you mentoined. Also its from Japan: i never heard any quality problems with them, but i read trough a lot of forums. Spare grit plates has their advantage: you can make your own dual grit stone, with the grits you choose, so you can carry only one.. As you mentoined earlier: People spending most of their time on the first stone, so choose it carefully. That is why i bought an atoma 400. I also have the shapton trio as you suggested (1000,2000, 5000). It works great! One year ago i tought that knife shaprening is for old fcks, with lot of time. I sharpened my cheapo knifes with angle grinder, and MDF wheel with green compound. You changed my mind. Thank you Alex!
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 20 күн бұрын
I just read a comment from someone who had a problem with their atomas. They are out there🤷‍♂️
@diego1694
@diego1694 20 күн бұрын
Doesn't make any sense at all in the EU, the better double sided sharpal stone is cheaper than anything from Atoma.
@curtis9202
@curtis9202 20 күн бұрын
@@OUTDOORS55 Wow, its new for me... I'm happy with mine...
@attila5221
@attila5221 20 күн бұрын
I think the reverse waffle pattern is great on the 140 for use as a flattening stone, since it lets the slurry out. i've heard that it makes the stones stick less, and flatten faster, but i live in europe, and buying the atoma would cost me 87 dollars with delivery+customs tax, tbh the sharpal costed me 100, but that's twice the surface.
@LancelotChan
@LancelotChan 20 күн бұрын
I use atoma 140 for many years now. My latest one is one with handle since I sharpen swords instead of knives. :)
@lindboknifeandtool
@lindboknifeandtool 20 күн бұрын
Come up with a sword fixed angle system and you’re a rich man. That’s what’s keeping me from doing longer than 12” or double edge
@bradnail99
@bradnail99 20 күн бұрын
I take stones on road trips and sharpen my friends’ kitchen knives. I begin with my Atoma 140 for really blunt edges; it works fast to establish an apex.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 20 күн бұрын
im surprised to hear you have never wore out a diamond plate. i guess i have a bunch of smaller plates that are known to wear out faster. Atomas are great The diamond clusters make them cut very fast and they seem to last a good while however i do notice they break in to a finer grit eventually and dont cut as aggressive as they once did but you could say that for all diamond plates.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 20 күн бұрын
I do have a TON of them so I change out quite often. The only ones I've ever actually worn out were the ones I had made prototyped. I was also doing extremely stupid stuff with them, which probably helped contribute to them wearing out.🙂
@bjornegan6421
@bjornegan6421 20 күн бұрын
@@OUTDOORS55 please pardon me butting in here, but it may make for decent entertainment watching stupid stuff be done to plates
@Lawman212
@Lawman212 20 күн бұрын
@@OUTDOORS55 I've definitely worn out my DMT Duosharps. They cost a hell of a lot for how long they last. The experience put me off diamond stones.
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins 19 күн бұрын
I suspect the diamonds that stick up and/or have sharper edges are being pulled out of the plating matrix, exposing the diamonds that are flatter/not as sharp. So the stone is not really getting finer, but loses the aggressive feedback.
@Ve-suvius
@Ve-suvius 17 күн бұрын
@@Lawman212 Same here. Diamond stones do wear. And more than I like.
@ChefMercenary
@ChefMercenary 19 күн бұрын
I love your videos! But also.. that knife you show at the end looks like it's disappearing from all the sharpening 😂
@andrewzach1921
@andrewzach1921 18 күн бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm, thanks for the video
@kevinfitz3721
@kevinfitz3721 5 күн бұрын
Have you tried the vitrified diamond stones from fsk also known as triple b sharpening stones also poltava makes vitrified to not just resin and metal ones and i think there is another company out there as well but would be interesting to see you test the very peak of technology for sharpening
@darksaiyan2006
@darksaiyan2006 20 күн бұрын
There might also be a consideration with the weight of the stone. The Sharpal is great and all, but it's quite heavy, which makes it difficult to carry around. The aluminum base of the Atoma should make it quite a bit lighter, right?
@christurley391
@christurley391 20 күн бұрын
How far apart are the diamond dots? Thanks again
@AKBoost
@AKBoost 15 күн бұрын
Awesome!
@tylermelton1746
@tylermelton1746 8 күн бұрын
You should take a look into nsk resin bonded diamond stones.
@HebuTheLoneWolf
@HebuTheLoneWolf 19 күн бұрын
maybe the idea with the replacement plates is that u can use different base like glass or some more sturdy metal or with something that weights more
@oceanwaves83
@oceanwaves83 19 күн бұрын
I've had an Atoma 400 for years. It's wonderful for removing stock and leaves a great scratch pattern. However, I cannot attain the same degree of sharpness that I can off other diamond plates. I use it to save time as well as the life of my other plates. Works great. But for some reason I cannot seem to whittle a hair straight off the 400 like I can with cheap ultra sharps, DMT coarse (even occasionally with extra coarse), etc. No matter how much patience, no matter how many burr reduction extremely light passes. Still an excellent buy. And yes the feedback is robust!
@paulwilson2204
@paulwilson2204 18 күн бұрын
Would be really interesting to see wood ash under the microscope. It's commonly used as a polish for a woodstove window and it'd be interesting to see it as a potential stropping compound.
@matthewweaver1123
@matthewweaver1123 20 күн бұрын
I noticed you ran the blade across wood every couple of passes to knock the burr off. Do you recommend that as something to always do during and not just after sharpening?
@maximilianschmitz8737
@maximilianschmitz8737 20 күн бұрын
We want to see the Horl 😜 Nice review btw - as always
@trx9256
@trx9256 20 күн бұрын
Hey Alex, what are you looking at under the table when you are sharpening at the end of the video? Thanks a lot for your high quality content. Kiss from France
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 20 күн бұрын
I swiping the apex on some wood just to clean it.
@reeseromine2140
@reeseromine2140 20 күн бұрын
Hard wood, soft wood, doesn't matter?
@A.J.Collins
@A.J.Collins 20 күн бұрын
I hope you are feeling better.
@paullmight42
@paullmight42 20 күн бұрын
working my way up to to that...
@D00MTR33
@D00MTR33 20 күн бұрын
Ive had my 400 for 8-9 years now and have used it foe sharpening and to flatten my Shapton and other stones. Still going strong, though not as aggressive. Only diamond stone I've ever needed to replace was my DMT extra extra coarse after many years of reprofiling and even regrinds. It still cut, but it was so worn that it felt like a coarse DMT at most and i wanted that high cutting ability it used to have.
@vaguincolombia
@vaguincolombia 20 күн бұрын
Why would you use your diamond stone like a flattening stone?. That cuts the lifespan of the diamond stone a lot because its two abrasives grinding each other. Diamond stones are just for metal and the stone should be clean with mineral spirits and a toothbrush. That combination removes all the dirt from the stone.
@D00MTR33
@D00MTR33 20 күн бұрын
@@vaguincolombia because it works well, it stays flat and hasn't really gotten any wear from it. It's cleaner that using carbide powder and some stones are just as hard as the carbide flattening stones you get. A lot of people use it just for flattering stones. You don't have to use that way. But it works for me.
@vaguincolombia
@vaguincolombia 20 күн бұрын
@@D00MTR33 I have no doubts that it can work but for sure it will shorten the life of the diamond stone. Anyway a stone for more than 5 or 6 years definitely completed its mission.
@adriankiss3631
@adriankiss3631 20 күн бұрын
Hi, my name is Adrian. I work in a kitchen. I have 12 knifes that I have to let ready for the next day in the kitchen. What would you recommend? I was about to buy the dmt, then you comet with Atoma. What would you recommend for daily use considering the time I have to use to sharpen those knives? Dmt or Atoma? Also you said that the honing rod is not the solution. Should I use the 1000 grit instead of the honing rod? Would help me a lot if you would answer my question. I follow you for this reason.
@Layarion
@Layarion 20 күн бұрын
Hey could you test as-is serrated knives to hand sharpened knives on tough skin but delectate breads? or basically if their hard to sharpen ass is worth it.
@DouglasRosser
@DouglasRosser 20 күн бұрын
+1 to the slightly cheaper Sharpal double-sided stone linked as "The better VALUE stone" in the description. My expensive DMT diamond plates are now backups.
@DouglasRosser
@DouglasRosser 20 күн бұрын
And in the space of time it took to watch this video, they've gone out of stock!
@uoislame
@uoislame 20 күн бұрын
how well does the pattern handle flattening soaking stones?
@randy-9842
@randy-9842 19 күн бұрын
Thanks, Alex! I think I like the "reverse waffle" design and agree that it allows a space to [temporarily] deposit any shavings. Question: have you covered, in your numerous videos, how different manufacturers bond the diamonds to the plate? It seems that would be as important in the quality and durability of the stone as is the consistency in particle size. If you have, can you direct me to that video? If you haven't, would such a video (or comment within a video) be of value to those more experienced than I? (I'm still very much a novice at sharpening.)
@leecapel8184
@leecapel8184 20 күн бұрын
Hey dude were you turning up the music at end of this video, under the table 😂
@123tobiiboii123
@123tobiiboii123 20 күн бұрын
Have you ever done a video on craft knife or snap-off blades? I generally like Olfa for fine detail paper cutting but have been thinking is it smart or dumb to touch them up with a strop? Maybe a video comparing leading brands like Fiskars, Olfa, Swann Morton, x-acto?
@samspade2104
@samspade2104 20 күн бұрын
Question: At the end of the video, were you using oil or water on the stone? It looked slick.
@stephenjohnson3084
@stephenjohnson3084 20 күн бұрын
Is the atoma ultra fine as consistent grit wise as the sharpal?
@Jammer881
@Jammer881 20 күн бұрын
The Atoma 400 is also a great flattening stone for non diamond stones
@mrcpu9999
@mrcpu9999 20 күн бұрын
I enjoyed this. I'd really like to see you address serrated knife sharpening. LIke on some of the spyderco's and such.
@tombrown4683
@tombrown4683 20 күн бұрын
I would be interested in your take on sharpening serrated edges. I had a full serrated Spygerco back in the nineties. I also had a Spyderco Sharpmaker. After reading (no U tube then)some opinions I proceeded to round off all the points of the serrations. Then I avoided serrated knives for over 20 years. Bought one last year.
@spto7382
@spto7382 12 күн бұрын
What di you think about shapton rockstar stones? Are they any good?
@jeromeflament4082
@jeromeflament4082 19 күн бұрын
Bonjour, Pouvez vous me dire quel microscope vous utilisez pour les vues agrandi?
@joemisak7925
@joemisak7925 20 күн бұрын
I thought it would be louder ..good review
@sihiga
@sihiga 20 күн бұрын
What if you buy a different grit replacement plate & install it on the other side, making a double sided diamond stone?
@OtherWorldExplorers
@OtherWorldExplorers 20 күн бұрын
I wonder what would happen if you burnished a sharpened knife. Using a hard metal to actually burnish the apex if it would make a difference in how long it lasts. Food for thought... 🙃
@marcinmerrimack1726
@marcinmerrimack1726 20 күн бұрын
I think the Atoma makes sense if the assurance of a quality product is important to you. As you can see from the comments in your videos and reviews elsewhere, the quality of your beloved Sharpal stone is not consistent. Instead of the Sharpal 400/1200 stone, I think it makes more sense to spend a bit more for the Atoma 400 stone with a 1200 grit replacement plate for the back side.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 20 күн бұрын
Perhaps..although keep in mind the sharpal is a much higher selling stone than the atoma. If the atomas we're selling 5k month stones you would potentially notice more issues. 1 problem out of 100 sales seems acceptable. 100 out of 10,000 seems different and more noticeable, even though its the same ratio. Edit, just saw a comment from someone who had a problem with there arome🤷‍♂️
@xxcarlosxx16
@xxcarlosxx16 19 күн бұрын
Are you supposed to apply pressure as you are moving the knife towards the blade or away? I've seen videos of you doing it both ways, or does it depend if you use a whetstone over a diamond stone?
@joshcarter-com
@joshcarter-com 20 күн бұрын
I picked this up a few weeks ago and I love it. Excellent feedback from the plate as you’re moving the blade across it, and the 600 grit is perfect for touching up my Japanese kitchen knives. The only thing I dislike is that the size is different from every other stone I have and it slides around without a base, so I had to make my own base for it.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 19 күн бұрын
Ah yes it is slightly larger than other stores 👍
@Alexander_Sannikov
@Alexander_Sannikov 20 күн бұрын
I've been using these atoma stones for a while now. They are indeed decent quality and they go eat away any steel really fast, but in my experience they sometimes leave a wobbly pattern on the blade after polishing. And most annoyingly the pattern seems to depend on your exact stroke direction during sharpening: you change the direction just a little and the wobble pattern changes dramatically.
@diji5071
@diji5071 20 күн бұрын
A wobbly pattern? Is the wobbly pattern co-ordinated by the angle of your stroke?
@Alexander_Sannikov
@Alexander_Sannikov 20 күн бұрын
@@diji5071 it's because under some angles some areas of the blade land exactly between the dots and they don't get eaten away at all, while other areas end up aligning with dots and they end up eaten much more.
@diji5071
@diji5071 20 күн бұрын
@Alexander_Sannikov Oh, i was trying to picture that but i think they're staggered in a manner that would make this very difficult to replicate reliably.
@Alexander_Sannikov
@Alexander_Sannikov 20 күн бұрын
@@diji5071 in a hexagonal grid you have 6 directions that completely align with the lattice and 6 more directions that sort of align. if you accidentally make even one stroke in one of those directions, your blade surface will become wavy. which is just another point of attention that I don't want to be paying when sharpening.
@paulkresky1465
@paulkresky1465 19 күн бұрын
I still like my Sharpal better. As I stated in that video, I bought them when they first came out around five years ago. As to this video, I have tried Atoma's. Not bad, but this video made me wonder about the so called selling points of the diamond stones that are the exact opposite of these Atoma's. I.e.- DMT may have come out with them first. Whereas these have raised "diamond dots" for sharpening, years ago they came out with the opposite. Flat diamond plate with holes punched out in them. Honeycomb effect. The selling point was supposedly that they needed less cleaning and left a cleaner cutting surface, as the metal residue from knife/tool edge would go into the holes. I found them to be slower at sharpening. I don't like them. But....I did find one thing they did. If you were sharpening an expensive knife, perhaps one you made for selling, there was less chance of marring the surface as there was less metal chaff on the stone. That said, one could always rebuff the knife to mirror surface. I wonder how those honeycomb stones compare in action to these Atoma, "raised dot" stones? That might be a new video comparison idea for you Alex.
@UnCoolDad
@UnCoolDad 20 күн бұрын
This is one of Riki's from Burrfection favourite stone
@XuroX.
@XuroX. 20 күн бұрын
I would personally say yes it's worth the extra money to buy something made in Japan over something made in China.
@omfgbbqsauce1177
@omfgbbqsauce1177 16 күн бұрын
Do you feel like the 400 and 600 are interchangeable? Only 200 grit difference as a step up to the 1200 seems minimal. I guess if you want to stop before the 1200, a 600 would be just a tad better
@zwaker
@zwaker 20 күн бұрын
With the waffle pattern making you need to clean the stone off less often, how often would that be. Also how often would you need to clean off a flat diamond stone in comparison?
@Polska1116969
@Polska1116969 20 күн бұрын
It may only be a $10 difference, but the excess waste is considerable, being that the majority of the replacement unit is a metal slab which is unlikely to be recycled by most people.
@W_H_K
@W_H_K 20 күн бұрын
I like Atomas. I make all mine double sided by using the replacement sheets. Two plates/four grits. I saved about 40 bucks doing it this way but that’s not why I do it. I do it for convenience. Edit: In Japan Atomas are probably the number 1 waterstone flattening tool.
@bagusvdr
@bagusvdr 19 күн бұрын
Have you ever tried obsidian knife?
@Somerandomguy2998
@Somerandomguy2998 19 күн бұрын
What if you don't have a nice Spyderco, can you still get it to whittle hair?
@zionpsyfer
@zionpsyfer 20 күн бұрын
Love my Atomas and Sharpal. DMT, however... I can send you a Diasharp 600 that I bought a month or so after the Sharpal. That thing was devoid of diamonds after the fourth or fifth knife. I'd be interested in what your sweet macro setup would show that my cheap microscope doesn't. Huh, I see a members only video about your setup. Welp, been looking to join anyway to help support the fun/work. Off I go.😁
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for the support my friend!
@craig1825
@craig1825 20 күн бұрын
Why do you use the DMT Dia sharp plate rather than the DMT DMT WM8FC-WB 8-Inch Fine/Coarse DuoSharp Plus Bench Stone with Base,
@plasmahead2
@plasmahead2 20 күн бұрын
I know where the value of the replacement plate comes in. I could see some one with a surface grinder and some flat stock deciding they could make a "better" plate just because they could...
@noahhoward390
@noahhoward390 20 күн бұрын
Can you test the sharpall credit card stones?
@joeaiello6869
@joeaiello6869 20 күн бұрын
I think the plates might be ice if you wanted to add them on a cheap stone you already have maybe? On the back side of one?
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