The real avatar, master all mobas lmao

Avatar of the Games. Still on his way to cover all games to unite Gamers together. You know that he mostly play in Warcraft?

welcome to the best game, gl

Well put about the freedom of the game. Welcome!

it really is a sandbox, anything can work as long as the enemy ancient explodes in the end

Well said.. Like a 2 times TI winner once said " Anything can work"

welcome to hell

Sry for spelling mistakes btw my eng is not the best

​@@medicinevender Great comment :) love the positivity

Nice, hope you have a wonderful time playing dota. And besides, if you get bored of it theres always the arcade and eventually maybe warcraft 3 custom maps? :P

Run while you still can

​@@BlissfulTortoise playing league amd dota at the same time is not advisable by both doctors and therapists

welcome to depression 👍😭

Its better to think it in the form of farm priority, but yeah thats as close as you can get

Not exactly. It's more like Season 1 LoL where Botlane is double bruiser, one being a Bruiser kill support and the other being a Bruiser farm carry. Bruiser farm will farm, Bruiser support will look for fights. Jungler is a more established role in LoL than DotA but usually the Offlane (role 3) will be the one grabbing farm from lane AND from the nearby jungle, so imagine your ADC just sneaking Krugs or Gromp between waves. Role 4 soft support will generally not really touch farm.

@@YasaiTsume i think 4 being labeled as "jungler" is fair as 4 is typically the one of the two supps who will leave lane and gank other lanes or help with pressuring elsewhere, which is like the purpose of a jungler in league too

@@kms199x2 not really, Dota has super imba abilities, different macro, also towers deal zero dmg

Yeah definitely different games. Obviously same at their core, but saying playing dota gives you the knowledge to play league is like saying play street fighter to learn mortal kombat :P

@@kms199x2 bro is trying to sound smart then say dumb shit like this, it makes dota players look immature, short-sighted, tempermental, narrow-minded, juvenile, and also makes lol players like me who come here to check out dota want to stop trying it out.

@@friskydrinklunkybank1108 It is definitely an overexaggeration to say that knowing how to play dota = knowing how to play league. However, the concepts in dota tend to be far more complex than League which makes it easier to understand League if you are already familiar with core concepts from dota. For example as a dota player, it's easier for me to understand why ADCs are all marksmen and why they all go bot lane and why they need so much support from the team. Contrast this to a League player going into Dota trying to understand why there are so many different types of carries in the games with different gameplans even though they occupy the same role position.

​@@SadFace201Not all ADC's are marksmen. ADC's can go top as well depending on matchup and comp. They can go mid as well depending on matchup and comp. What's the point here?

Definitely lots more moving gears but tbh both at their core is just 5 heroes/champions fighting to get items to smash the opposing base

One thing that got me into Dota 2 was all heros are unlocked from the start, there's no 'free rotation', no blue essence, play whoever you want. I wouldn't say convoluted but maybe intricate/complicated. The thing that made me switch from League to Dota a few years ago, was how complex it was. Another thing is Dota 2 felt way less toxic, even with voice chat. Because there's is no ff@15 many players will stick through to the end because there's still a chance. Even though in League you can die in 0.4 seconds, the game is slower, people stay in lanes longer, there is more passive play. In Dota there's a lot of roaming around and things you can do even as a hard support, there's team fights and ganks more often. Valve also put in an updated tutorial, that's the best of any mobas I've played. I would recommend you give it a try, find some nice people to learn with, if you don't like it at least you got some insight into how it works and its free so you lose nothing.

Dota Fandom wiki mention within 1500 range.

Soundtracks from Supergiant Games (Mostly Hades but I think I heard some Transistor as well)

tldr kill the enemy ancient while defending yours

If I were to make a recommendation, what you can do is watch grubby or some pro games then if you dont understand something you can always google it. The skills and items tend to be the big ones you want to understand first and foremost. Both of which come naturally if you play the game a lot or just by reading what they actually do in the wiki. The more comples stuff Id say for a first time viewer are understanding timings such as neutral pulls, neutral items, tormentors, roshan spawn timing etc. But again they just come with time and if you are watching a pro game with a commentary, those people will alos point out what is happening.

If you played moba before, its much easier. Also dota has a great extension in Twitch. It lets you mouse over HUD hero, spell, and item icons to see what they do. It even gives you a mini video to watch its spell animation.

I think certain progame broadcasts have a plug-in that allows you to read everything as if you were in game? That certainly helps.

To watch pro Games I HIGHLY recommend watching them on Twitch wich uses a plug-in to view the Game almost as if you were using the client. Being able to read hero abilities, ítems, see an example video, opening the shop, see live match statistics, having access to the main pages of the glossary and such. You may feel owerhelmed due to how fast a match evolves and how little time You have to internalize what you read. But is best, and may be better if less complex to understand héroes are used. In general I do recommend doing an overview on every hero on the website and their abilities, like reading their main description and peeking their skills. So once you watch a pro game on Twitch the plug-in will just refresh your memory and you can focus better on ítems.

Dota is becoming more intuitive with time, the Tutorials are WAY better and you can read and learn from everything at any moment. The thing is, Dota is a far more complex and deep Game, but not really less intuitive.

Could someone explain more about this mechanic? I can see how it can add depth, but at the same time, that story sounds super obnoxious for the enemy team. Ik Dota has more emphasis on map control than league, so in a way it is their fault for letting Grubby intercept the creeps like that. But I can also see how itd be annoying if u just wanna end.

You can still solo cut a wave in league and stop enemies from ending if they are dumb enough to not defend it. You can also wave clear under tower with some champions even using your ult (mf rumble gp...) and delay their push until your team respawn. but what makes league end fast is the insane late game scaling and damage. One tiny late game misstep can cause you to lose. If you're ahead and know what you're doing, you can steam roll your opponent and end easily, if you're not that ahead you need to understand macro to win. That's why low elo games are longer. And that's why the surrender button is a thing in league, because once a team that know what they are doing get a lead, it's a loss and you're just there stuck until they eventually finish. But in low elo, just don't surrender they always throw eventually.

if you ask league pros if they want to be able to cut waves to delay an end push 99% of them would say yes, ill bet on it. yeah they could do it right now but its too risky coz riot limit them by the small map size.

​@@cap-ml7ky those kind of scenerios usually have a lot more answers compared to League where map movements would be far more restricted. In contrast in dota with low cost items like tp scrolls or boots of travel or with straight out global tp skills in heros all those options will grant you ability to tp around map frequently thats why these kind of strats can happen and also ideally can be answered as well. And yes it can add depth as well as become frustrating to deal with but game usually give players the tools to deal with them so its their jobs to utilse and found answer to those scenerios.

Dota lategame is different than other games other than length time. Everyone become so op. Powerspikes are so dynamic and strong. It's not like from minute ten your hero play the same way, just increased damage/tankiness. Buying most items is essentially buying new spells, which of most would break other mobas. Imagine buying an Olaf ult to a master yi, and it is still balanced. Level powerspikes are big, as there are drastic scaling on your spells (not just a small boost in its numbers). Everyone even has syndras passive, which upgrades are powerful effects. For one, imagine twisted fate removing cd to his teleport. With these powerspikes in mind, comboing with allied spells/items or countering the enemies are much more potent. You may invest more time in it, but winning a close Dota lategame is one of the best free crack you can get.

I highly HIGHLY disagree. League doesn't have buybacks to facilitate overwhelming stronger enemies. League doesn't have smoke of deceit to facilitate ambushing stronger enemies. League doesn't have extra farm on the map for a losing lane to fall back on so all they can do is sit by turret and fall further behind. League's itemization emphasizes gold efficiency and soft counters, meaning that it is more difficult to negate an enemy lead with smarter item choices on a lower gold economy. League doesn't have glyph of fortification to give the losing team more map control and thus breathing room to catch up. League doesn't have highground advantage for the base to make it easier for the losing team to defend. You are right---assuming both teams are competent, the only way to comeback in League is by the other team throwing. I rarely feel like I have agency in a League game because I'm not making any choices to gain the lead back like you do in Dota; I'm just waiting for the enemy to slip up. This makes League a game of mistakes where the lowest risk plays become the most optimal. This is why pro-play is boring to watch because all they do is farm safely. It's why the kill count in pro play is significantly lower than Dota pro games. It's why 90% of the time the team that is ahead in the first 5 minutes in League will be the winner of the game. Ofc I'm overexaggerating a bit. Obviously at lower ELOs there's always something to improve on and take advantage of to get the lead back in League. But in general, League doesn't have a lot of mechanics built into the game that are meant to catch up losing teams when compared to dota. The emphasis in League is always to "just outplay them better" when the enemy team is ahead.

Its not that much anymore since they implemented an anti toxic feature

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You league players and your tin foil hats. Lmao. He just wanted to be educational. He played dota 2 first, and maybe he felt that he could teach the game now. He's been an educational streamer/youtuber ever since.

@@chrisfelonall1177 my brother in christ how am i supposed to write that comment to make the sarcasm more obvious. i'm a dota 2 enjoyer, i come in peace to make jokes let's shake hands