An Offence to Have a Multi Tool in a Public Place?

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A brief example of whether it is an offence to have a utility tool with a blade in a public place.
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@BlackBeltBarrister 2 жыл бұрын

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@RicardoPetrazzi 2 жыл бұрын

Please, do a video on "the upholding of bad laws (poor legislation)" - I can't cite any specific examples, but I am certain there are some" . Thanks

@robsmithracing 2 жыл бұрын

On a different note: those swords under your telly,…

@gavinjames1145 2 жыл бұрын

What exactly constitutes a locking blade? All penknives to my knowledge have some sort of spring mechanism which causes just enough resistance when fully opened to stop the blade from easily closing on the fingers of the hand holding the handle. Surely this would not be considered a 'lock'?

@ChrisPage68 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone who has any familiarity with a multi-tool will know that you can't unlock the blade fast enough to quickly and discreetly stab someone. How is it that The Queen's Horseguards are allowed to be in possession of sharpened swords in public?

@ChrisPage68 2 жыл бұрын

@@RicardoPetrazzi This law, for starters.

@jackking5567 2 жыл бұрын

And to think back 45 years I was a child who wore a sheaf knife on my belt every day of the week and would visit the shop wearing it - lots of us in the village did. Sure we used those knives when making dens and stuff but at no point did we ever consider sticking them into each other.

@andrewhooper6705 2 жыл бұрын

Still got my sheaf knife as worn in the Scouts, used to keep it in the glove box until someone told me i could be done for doing so.

@Deebz270 2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewhooper6705 SHEATH knife. But yes, ditto.

@Deebz270 2 жыл бұрын

Mine was a hunters knife, with 'blade catcher' slots on its shoulder and an antler handle. It was a good eight or nine inches long, well balanced and could hack its way through any kind of wood, except perhaps greenheart. . I carried it every weekend when out exploring the Pembrokeshire countryside. It was an invaulable tool. When the law came in prohibiiting the carrying of such knives, I was pretty pissed-off. . Now I've got a 'Bowie' knife, fashioned from the main part of an ex WD machette, issued during the Korean War. That goes on camping trips too.

@barrywebber100 2 жыл бұрын

I just added a similar comment! Back then boy scouts had sheath knives and nobody felt their lives were at risk!

@colinmiller5502 2 жыл бұрын

@@Deebz270 had one for years as a kid,but back then (50s 60s ) there was nowhere near the amount of violence there is now.

@windinthewillows6248 2 жыл бұрын

Classic example of penalising everybody over the criminals, who carry a weapon irrespective. The multi tool was such a useful tool to have in the car on on a bike. If you have any breakdowns or repairs to carry out, you always had a tool that would assist you in that situation. I watch videos of other countries, like Norway, Sweden etc, they seem to be able to use common sense with the use of multi tools.

@baldbeardyandbiking6686 2 жыл бұрын

The example given in the video is going camping. Could the same argument be used that the multi-tool is expected to be used when using the vehicle?

@Pooknottin 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! This is a particular bugbear of mine. The fact that any number of mundane, legal carry items can and are used by criminals to cause harm just makes my blood boil. It's simply expedient for legislators to ban something to appear like they're doing something useful than to actually address the issue. Gun and knife amnesties are another absurdity. If you've ever visited the Royal Armouries in Leeds you may have seen the display of what has been handed in during such amnesties - toys and kitchen implements mostly. Why? Well, that I can't answer, but it's certainly odd.

@Pooknottin 2 жыл бұрын

@@baldbeardyandbiking6686 I'd be very cautious about carrying one with that justification. Weigh the benefit to the risk. If you're using the vehicle for work (not just to commute), you probably have a stronger claim, but I'd still be skeptical. Better to get a small toolkit instead I would imagine. If it's for bikes/motorcycles there are certainly options.

@thebemusedone1901 2 жыл бұрын

I have a leatherman attached to a tool belt I keep in the boot of my car, can't see the police having a problem with that. I'd imagine if it were in the cabin they'd be less impressed. I've also carried a swiss army knife for over 30 years and twice had the police search me find it and give it back.

@LickorishAllsorts 2 жыл бұрын

@@baldbeardyandbiking6686 There is a court conviction for having a locking multitool *in the glove compartment* of a car!

@martinmadsen4162 2 жыл бұрын

what a fucking insane law. i carry a multitool all day every day. i work in a nursery/pre school and use it 10-15 times a day to fix anything from toys to zippers to replacing batteries. my boss loves that i can almost always fix things right then and there.

@col470 2 жыл бұрын

Thats dead right, I carry a 91mm victorinox with plus handles, so functional at small fixes, not as much as a leather man type tool nor is my Swiss card but handy nonetheless. Need a pen? Screwdriver? Strip some wire? Tweezers and needle for a splinter? A few bad apples spoil the lot! Port Arthur sums it up well here. As a kid every farmer had a rifle on the back window!

@thebamfordman Ай бұрын

If it's got a locking blade, I'd be inclined to stop doing so. And certainly stop openly broadcasting that you are carrying an offensive weapon in a school.

@BarefootBeekeeper 2 жыл бұрын

We have some bloody stupid laws in this country. Multi-tools are, by definition, multi-purpose, and that means you never know when or for what precise purpose you will need one. I carry one most of the time and use it every day for any number of reasons. And it has a locking blade, which is much safer than one that can fold back on your fingers.

@tooyoungtobeold8756 2 жыл бұрын

Too true. A butter knife is a bladed instrument!

@insoft_uk 2 жыл бұрын

Most cyclists carry bicycle multi-tools that have a lockable blade like the popular Topeak Alien II Multi Tool, Imagine if the police stopped and searched every cyclist on the road they will find hundreds of them all packing locking foldable knife and just carrying just in case

@Chayat0freak 2 жыл бұрын

@@insoft_uk but the cyclist has a reason to carry a repair tool for bicycles

@WhiteDieselShed 2 жыл бұрын

@@williamtopping Your just missing the bottle of chloroform, a roll of duck tape and a bag of lime.... :)

@ericbell5272 2 жыл бұрын

My multi tool doesn't even have a knife blade but the pliers could give you a painful blood blister

@bwxbwx6453 2 жыл бұрын

I am totally convinced that these laws have been made out of fear and not facts You make fantastic videos

@matthewyabsley 2 жыл бұрын

Not true. These laws are made from laziness. It takes a lot of work to come up with legislation that works for the country. It takes no work to just ban things. This seems to be a trend in English law these days, to ban or criminalise something, nowadays even on just the suspicion of. This is pure laziness. Nothing more.

@BOBANDVEG 2 жыл бұрын

Psshht. These laws were made to disarm you...and it worked

@michaelgillman2505 2 жыл бұрын

These laws are made because otherwise people who carry such an item specifically for the blade (thugs and muggers and such) will exploit that loophole. It sucks (I have a very similar tool as in the video) but I understand why things are like this. The day that people don't exploit gaps in the law is the day we can have fuzzy laws that rely on common sense.

@BOBANDVEG 2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelgillman2505 you're anti self defense???

@michaelgillman2505 2 жыл бұрын

@@BOBANDVEG well that's a ridiculous leap 🤣🤣🤣

@doubleplusgoodthinker9434 2 жыл бұрын

When I was a school boy about 50 years ago, I carried a pen knife in my pocket and I think all my school friends did the same. We mostly used them for sharpening pencils but they were used for a multitude of other purposes as well. The only thing we did not do and it did not even occur to us, was to stick them in each other. What a sad state of affairs we now have.

@rhinovirus2225 2 жыл бұрын

I'm from the US and these laws baffle me. I carry alot of things on me including a decent sized pocket knife that I use all the time, even in public. I've been carrying a pocket knife since I was a child

@STho205 2 жыл бұрын

They were called pen knives because they were needed to sharpen pens (bird quills) or crayons (pencils) as they dulled. You had a tool specific to the task.

@jsmith498 Жыл бұрын

Yes, but you hadn't been culturally enriched then.

@brianperry Жыл бұрын

It was common practice for us fifties UK kids to carry sheath knives. We used them to cut through willow that we used to make 'Bows 'n' arrows plus many other uses that required a knife...And you're right we never stuck them in each other, although ''stretch'' could be a bit dangerous.....

@doubleplusgoodthinker9434 Жыл бұрын

@@brianperry Thank you.The only sheaf knives I ever saw were carried by the Scouts. My friend was a scout and I was really envious of his knife. My mother would not let me join the scouts because my older brother had joined and lasted 3 weeks..Life is not fair!

@raftonpounder6696 2 жыл бұрын

The gangs in London aren’t using multi tools to stab each other. Probably their mother’s kitchen knives. A very bad law indeed. When I was a youngster in the 70s I always carried a penknife. As did most other young boys for many years.

@roblloyd1879 2 жыл бұрын

Even in primary school most boys carried a pocket knife and the teacher would often ask to borrow one. You should have seen the hands shoot up. This was back in the fifties.

@baldbeardyandbiking6686 2 жыл бұрын

A couple of years ago the London ambulance service instructed their paramedics to look for small puncture wounds on the side of the chest when examining a collapsed/assaulted person. The reason being that the gang members were using bicycle wheel spokes instead of knives. The spokes were easy to hide when carried and even easier to dispose off down a drain or into any deep enough crack. In recent years we've seen more of this in South Wales too.

@jdjones4825 2 жыл бұрын

@@baldbeardyandbiking6686 bike spoke in the chest.. Fair play butt.. ouch

@jon9087 2 жыл бұрын

Nah they use big Rambo knives ordered offline lol or a local fishing/outdoor shop

@tomriley5790 Жыл бұрын

You can still carry a penknife....

@StevenJQuinlan 2 жыл бұрын

I've carried Swiss army knives since my early teens. They're brilliant devices, but the problem is that by the time you realise you need it, it's too late to go back home and get it. This is classic throwing the baby out with the bath water lawmaking

@nickdsnik1675 2 жыл бұрын

Generally they are non-locking and with a blade length less than 3". Should not be a problem.

@Deebz270 2 жыл бұрын

@@nickdsnik1675 I've got several Victorinox 'Swiss Army' knives. Two are standard penknife sized, with various other tools incorporated and the other is a locking 'hunters' knife, which is the only Victorinox knife to contain a wicked cross-cut saw blade that (being stainless) eats through boughs, withies and the likes. Perfect backwoodsman's knife. I've also got a Gerber multitool (locking blade). At the end of the day, if I go sailing, canoeing, or camping/hiking. Those tools are always aboard. Abiding by a 'nanny law' at this juncture is eclipsed by the need to carry an important tool for the objective in hand, I leave the rest to fate.

@inregionecaecorum 2 жыл бұрын

@@Deebz270 Farmer X is the best compromise legal carry SAK with a decent saw, reamer, good sized blade and scissors, yes scissors I tell you. I carry it on my belt in a custom made pouch with a variety of other bushcraft accessories. I guess they will ban the ferro rod and tinder next because you could be a potential arsonist.

@Dan-wo4bx 2 жыл бұрын

Standard swiss army knives are legal as the blade doesn’t lock open

@marmite8959 2 жыл бұрын

The law doesn't affect most models of Swiss army knife as most of them have non-locking ≤3" cutting edge blades. The ones with locking blades are generally safety knives for kids (which usually wouldn't be carried by the child anyway), hunting knives, or large work multitools. Victorinoxes are literally the most law-friendly tools out there if you take the time to read the actual laws and understand the different models of SAK available.

@Healthhazard43 2 жыл бұрын

I carried two 38mm and two 40mm spanners in my tool bag along with screwdrivers, hammers etc - perfectly legal. Had to remove my multi tool - non compliant blade. Damn sure if I had been attacked whilst carrying it, it would never have been the multi tool coming to my defence. The spanners are nearly three ft long and heavier than a hammer. Anything can be a weapon in the right hands even more so in the wrong hands. Stupidly pointless banning knives.

@davidmcintyre998 2 жыл бұрын

I know someone who works in a prison and the inmates are brilliant in making weapons out of everyday objects and they are lethal,not everything gets onto the news.

@aliksmart1651 2 жыл бұрын

Ridick with a tea cup classic!.

@loafersheffield 2 жыл бұрын

"You could probably beat somebody to death with a rolled up copy of The New York Times!" -- George Carlin. "Airport Security" It's on "ewe"choob. Baamy!

@Gismo3333 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidmcintyre998 Nothing of that get in the news.

@Gismo3333 2 жыл бұрын

Much easier to stab someone with a screwdriver then a knife. A knife is not a good thing to use as a stabbing weapon. They only try making trouble for normal people, instead of solving problems in the society. Taking weapons form normal people, so it is easier for criminals, like them self, to attack normal people. With out been in danger of getting hurt. That is the reason. They are part of the criminals.

@tomcardale5596 2 жыл бұрын

I was walking in the woods last year when someone stopped me, I have no idea why, and asked if I had a screwdriver. Five minutes later using my multitool I'd fixed a kid's bike so the family could enjoy the rest of the afternoon. That's the exact sort of non specifiable reason it's incredibly useful to have some sort of multi purpose tool in your pocket and why I'm very frustrated by the law.

@damionlee7658 2 жыл бұрын

But the law doesn't stop you carrying a multitool with you, it only becomes a problem when that multitool has a blade that is longer than the exemption, and/or locks (although Multitools will generally be seen as locking blades regardless of dedicated locking mechanisms, because if you close the handles up, you cannot fold the blade away)... So simply buy a multitool without a blade, or remove the blade(s) and replace them with small spacer washers.

@tomcardale5596 2 жыл бұрын

@@damionlee7658 These days most of the time I carry a Leatherman Bond for the locking blades issue, and used to carry an antique Sidelcip. Doesn't stop the Victorinox Swisstool Spirit being my favourite!

@damionlee7658 2 жыл бұрын

@@andymerrett if a blade is a part you need to carry, have that separate as a small SAK or similar. My point is you can work within the current legislation and still carry everything you need. The problem with locking blades in a multitool doesn't have to be a real problem.

@MrSonicAdvance 2 жыл бұрын

@@damionlee7658 Or grind the blade down so it's shorter than 3" and ensure it cannot lock.

@mfx1 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrSonicAdvance I have done exactly that, people will argue that make the knife more dangerous as the blade could close on your hand but that's only if you're using it wrong in the first place.

@robinwells8879 2 жыл бұрын

I accidentally tried to board a ferry at harwich to travel to Rotterdam a few years back with a penknife hooked on to my belt loop as is my habit. I am a sailing type, so I always carry a penknife on my belt because at sea as on land, it is a potential life saver. The officer, to his credit, was beside himself with embarrassment but explained that because the blade locked open and shut, which I see as a safety feature, he had to seize it for destruction and put me on a database! Towards the end of last century governments increasingly turned to what I consider to be the art of gesture politics to prove their value to society. They took existing offences and made them more illegal with new, often badly drafted laws. Almost without exception these laws have been detrimental to the public whilst having no discernible affect on the criminals. The clue is in the name here. A criminal is one who disobeys the law and by definition they don’t care if something is illegal or indeed double illegal. This whilst the law abiding have their rights eroded. Think Olympic marksman along with a raft of other legitimate gun owners. Think drivers and mobile phones. There always was driving without due care and attention and woe betide you if your distraction harmed others. But no, it must be double illegal! How many people have been saved by knives cutting seatbelts or similar? How many as a result of the use of a phone to summon swift help at a road accident? I wonder how we are better off by disarming ourselves whilst the criminals have more weapons than ever before. We live in a time of “something must be done” but nothing is better. Discuss!

@solentbum 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you about the 'gesture' laws passed in recent years, so many are badly framed that they are unenforcable. see dangerous dogs act. So many are 'fashion' laws , named after some unfortunate victim , but poor law all the same. It would seem that I have been breaking the law on carrying a knife for most of my life, In recent years I carry a full picnic set in my car, which includes a very sharp carving type knife. Usefull for cutting my wifes cakes, for cutting portions of meat at a barbeque, and even gutting fish. Strangely my knife has never found its way into a gang fight in the street, and I have never used it for help in stealing other peoples property. But then I am not a criminal, nor do I have criminal intent. If I were a criminal I would ignore the Law anyway!

@charleslyster1681 2 жыл бұрын

I had a similar experience while towing a boat onto a ferry. I had a sailing knife in my pocket. The junior chap who found it wanted to confiscate it and I argued that it was essential safety equipment for a sailor. Fortunately his boss took over; he was a very reasonable ex military type and entirely sympathetic but pointed out that the knife was on my person and should be in the boat. He allowed me to put it in the boat and leave it at that which was pretty fair I thought. When I was at school in the 70’s I carried a penknife in my blazer pocket every day, just to sharpen pencils etc. and no one batted an eyelid, only a few years earlier a sheath knife was part of scout uniform. The problem is not the knife, it’s the user, who could just as easily kill with a screwdriver.

@mickthebandit 2 жыл бұрын

Criminals don’t carry £100 multitools. They carry kitchen knives nicked from their mums. In the USA, a locking knife is known as a SAFETY knife.

@z00h 2 жыл бұрын

"gesture politics" aka virtue signalling.

@SiCrewe 2 жыл бұрын

Back in the 1990's, prior to 9/11, I'd just finished a site-visit to an oil rig, got straight off the helicopter and went across to Aberdeen airport to board a flight home. Got patted-down by a security guard who realised I had a Leatherman on my belt and he simply told me "don't get it out on the plane" Nobody died.

@noelward8047 2 жыл бұрын

This is another example of the majority being punished for actions of a small number.

@MirlitronOne 2 жыл бұрын

We are all guilty until we can prove ourselves innocent.

@lesigh1749 2 жыл бұрын

Or an example of the powers that be using the threat of a minority to justify disarming the entire populace. An unarmed public is the easiest public to push around.

@manoo422 2 жыл бұрын

I agree totally but how do you stop criminals going tooled up?!

@dave20thmay 2 жыл бұрын

@@manoo422 Not by making everyone criminal. A friend of mine is an Airstewardess and had the small Victorinox pocket knife with a blade a cork puller and it was taken away from her by security. So she no longer had the ease of removing the foil cap and then the cork from a wine bottle.

@MrEdrftgyuji 2 жыл бұрын

Or "anarcho-tyrrany" - ignore real crime and focus on this petty nonsense. Let actual crime grow, then demand more laws and more money from government.

@greghart6310 2 жыл бұрын

That UK simply has too many rules. I've never seen a place so over supplied with signs telling not to do anything at all. Complete overkill, a pain in the rear and a visual blight to boot

@darkwoods1954 2 жыл бұрын

They don't want us doing anything other than going to work and back. Don't make jokes, don't drive anywhere else, don't have any hobbies outdoors.

@ianhill4585 2 жыл бұрын

If something can incur a financial fine, AKA revenue. Rest assured it will be jumped all over by the law. House / car broken in to? Yawn, no fine,no interest generated.

@I_Don_t_want_a_handle 2 жыл бұрын

Someone makes those signs, and the poles they hang off and the concrete the pole is set in. Jobs, but probably not in this country. And, of course, someone owns the company(ies) that make them all. As ever, follow the money.

@harrycallaghan2531 2 жыл бұрын

Yes 100% correct. The UK is a dismal small overworked cog in a larger shitty machine. I plan to get out of slavelandia UK in the near future as it is an over priced bleak toilet. Especially London a total dumping ground!

@psdaengr911 Ай бұрын

The Orwellian UK nanny state also has more "public service" video surveillance cameras per capita than any other county in the world, and next in line to the throne is Good Brother.

@marcsmith2708 2 жыл бұрын

Another reason I'm glad I do not live in in the UK. I've carried a Leatherman Wave every single day for the last 22 years. The single most useful thing I've ever carried. I've used it to help repair a kids bicycle, remove a nail from a tap dancing shoe at a dance competition and so many other countless uses that I couldn't have planned for. Such a ridiculous law.

@bartram33 2 жыл бұрын

Another reason? What other reasons are there.

@paulshea7022 2 жыл бұрын

When I worked I was a carpenter and I traveled around with a van full of bladed tools of all sorts just because I had a legitimate reason for carrying them doesn't make them less dangerous. Surly these cases should be viewed independently on merit not a blanket ban. I suppose it is easier for the police just to treat everyone as a criminal.

@rogueriderhood1862 2 жыл бұрын

Except actual criminals.

@neiltitmus9744 2 жыл бұрын

Make everyone a criminal then its easy you can just arrest them ,joke no joke

@barrywebber100 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with Giles. Unless someone is a known violent drug dealer or criminal with a history of violence then yes a multi tool is a useful everyday item to have in your possession. Good grief! When I was in the scouts in the 60's and 70's we all had sheath knives and no one prosecuted us. Make the punishment suit the activity carried out by the individual not the hypothetical possible crime never done or considered. Thanks for posting.

@carlgreene538 2 жыл бұрын

About 10 years ago the Police did a stop and search on me and found I have a non lockable swiss army knife on me.They said that it could be seen as an offence to carry such an item and that the law was open to interpretation meaning the officer carrying out a search on me can decide himself that I have committed an offence or not.He let me go that time as the knife was part of my bicycle toolkit but advised me to carry it again.I think this is ridiculous but we do live in a stupid country with stupid laws and a useless police force!

@lousbits 2 жыл бұрын

I got stopped by the police while carrying a penknife and got in a massive argument with the young officer. In the end I told him to arrest me if I was doing anything illegal and he returned the knife to me and left.

@LickorishAllsorts 2 жыл бұрын

Police force?

@barrywebber100 2 жыл бұрын

What a society when even a utility Swiss Army knife is seen as an offensive weapon. You are more likely to harm yourself with it if you tried to stab someone I imagine!

@carlgreene538 2 жыл бұрын

@@barrywebber100 Exactly and in my toolkit I have 2 screwdrivers which would be far more useful as a weapon.The thing is we have stupid laws in the UK and a stupid Police who are unable to think for themselves.

@carlgreene538 2 жыл бұрын

@@LickorishAllsorts Yes they should be a Police service.

@dogglebird4430 2 жыл бұрын

I remember when this law first came into existence. It was a crude and clumsy attempt to deal with the supposed inadequacy of S1. of the Prevention of Crime Act 1953 in empowering the police and courts to prosecute those carrying around knives. The effect was to criminalise anyone with anything that was sharp or pointed, and that could, at least in theory, include something as innocuous as a pencil sharpener or a pair of scissors. The locking mechanism of a knife is often built in both to make the tool more stable and also as a safety feature, so you don't end up cutting off your own fingers. As the case cited shows, it is a poorly thought out piece of legislation that should never have made it onto the statute books.

@mfx1 2 жыл бұрын

"so you don't end up cutting off your own fingers" If there's any risk of doing that you probably shouldn't be using a knife i the first place.

@dogglebird4430 2 жыл бұрын

That may be true, but people do silly things.

@ChrisPage68 2 жыл бұрын

They'll be penalising those with sharp intellect next.

@aa-hj2fd 2 жыл бұрын

@@mfx1 that's the whole purpose of the locking mechanism: to allow one to provide pressure without the blade collapsing on the handle, where the fingers just happen to be wrapped around because of the mandatory size issue.

@mfx1 2 жыл бұрын

@@aa-hj2fd Why would the blade collapse on a knife that's being used correctly? People have managed with non locking folding knives for decades and the only people that get hurt are idiots.

@camofilms 2 жыл бұрын

Never been in trouble with the law, carrying a pen knife whilst going about your work, camp, hobby... Get searched, prosecuted and put in prison for 5 years. Welcome to the UK

@psdaengr911 Ай бұрын

It's not on my list of vacation trip destinations already as it would require flying. My grandmother who came from there never had any desire to return.

@charliegould5865 2 жыл бұрын

Prior to retirement I was an aircraft engineer at Gatwick airport. A Leatherman multi tool was a very handy thing to keep on your pocket. The airport was very “nervous” about these tools when going through the security search areas. I will hasten to add it was only acceptable for am engineer to carry one on the airport. One morning a colleague was carrying a Leatherman Supertool, the security person went into panic mode and called the police. When the armed police officer turned up he took one look confirmed the guy was an engineer (printed on his airport pass) and said I’ve got one of those pointing to it on his belt, laughed and walked out. The security team were aghast but accepted it, but they were not so “nervous” of a Leatherman multi tool after that.

@Sterlingjob 2 жыл бұрын

Who did you work for and when?!

@fivish 2 жыл бұрын

A full size Leatherman does not comply with the law but a mini multitool does. Heathrow were ok with mine but Spain was not and it was confiscated.

@hannahalice1000 2 жыл бұрын

I remember after that when BA looked at things like that, decided that they didn't want to cause their engineers any more problems with security, and designated that their engineer's multitools were to be kept in airside lockers and should not - ordinarily - be taken through security. Unfortunately they told security whose staff then "interpreted" that to mean that literally NO multi-tools were allowed airside and turned back everyone else in other companies who had them It took our manager a week of working his way up the security chain of command before he could find a senior enough manager who confirmed that a British Airways self-imposed ban did not mean that their ban extended to other companies Still, the damage was done. We had to carry copies of that managers letter around with us for years to come to show staff who occasionally "remembered" that "multitools are banned"

@Sterlingjob 2 жыл бұрын

@@hannahalice1000 We just have tool cards now at LHR

@hannahalice1000 2 жыл бұрын

@@Sterlingjob Oh this was years ago before LGW introduced tool cards where we are now allowed to carry them under "S" for Sharps

@hackerx7329 2 жыл бұрын

My word the UK legal system is an absolute nightmare compared to the one here in the USA and most people agree that ours is a mess.

@peterclarke7006 11 ай бұрын

A mess? The UK law is incredibly straightforward: you can carry what you like so long as you have a good reason. Unfortunately, too many people here seem to thing a "good reason" is "cos I like carrying it." That is not a good reason.

@JonathanGray_UK 11 ай бұрын

@@peterclarke7006the problem is that a good reason to some might not be a good reason to others. Do you really want to risk imprisonment to find out? That's what's shit about UK law.

@peterclarke7006 11 ай бұрын

@@JonathanGray_UK I suspect what most people find shit about UK laws is that they know damn well that what they claim are "good reasons" actually aren't. I have never, in my 45 years on this planet, had a good reason to carry any sort of weapon other than a UK legal pen knife or multitool while out in public unless I'm off on a camping trip or the like. And I've lived in some rough areas.

@psdaengr911 Ай бұрын

The problem is that we let politicians write laws. While many politicians are trained as lawyers, they don't need to be good lawyers -or smart- to be elected.

@darwindarwin141 2 жыл бұрын

Truly outrageous that the unelected court can tell me ( a 60 yr old man ) who has never been in trouble , that I can’t carry a multi tool. What would happen if every single person in the uk that has one ,phoned the police every time they needed to cut string, undo a nut , use the screw driver or need to use the tweezers. ?

@MartinParnham 2 жыл бұрын

You do know why we have "unelected" courts? Not that it will matter soon anyway as this government is trying to do away with independent judiciary. Out of interest, would it make any difference if an elected representative was telling you?

@raymondo162 2 жыл бұрын

what would happen is that the donuts would have something useful to do with their sorry lives

@darwindarwin141 2 жыл бұрын

@@MartinParnham well I’m not sure it would, but at least they would have been voted for by the people who pay their wages ,not because they belong to a boys club or went to the same school as an mp

@VolkerHett 2 жыл бұрын

The court - in most western democracies unelected - does not tell you what to do, the law does! The law is made by your elected government.

@raftonpounder6696 2 жыл бұрын

Nobody is stopping you using a knife for those purposes. You have no need to be walking around in a public place with a knife to do those things.

@wilso845 2 жыл бұрын

I carried one during my 14yrs in the army, but never once seen it as a weapon. Luckily I have never carried on me after my service, and glad I watched this. 👍

@Nite-owl 2 жыл бұрын

Thank-you for your service 🙂

@johnlane7529 2 жыл бұрын

@Kris Nicholson What a stupid thing to say. What if they were a chef or a clerk. I was i an engineer in the army for 15 years and reading this is almost just as stupid as being asked if i have ever killed anyone. I carry a pen knife becaues its useful day to day. Also how did they protect your life?

@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives 2 жыл бұрын

I have a very cheap multi tool but have "dremeled" the locking groove out on both blades and the saw so that all are non locking, all under 3", I take the genuine "Leatherman" gear out when on outdoor pursuits, trade shows in fields where I have a table of knives anyway...a very sad state of affairs but no way do I want to get in a "good reason" debate out in public when the public are clueless to the law .

@sahhull 2 жыл бұрын

From my experience... Most copper are clueless to the law too. The do policing by feelings.

@Barbarapape 2 жыл бұрын

There is no common sense in this country regaring the carrying of certain tools or blades. As someone once said, "The Law is an Ass"! 🙂

@adrianthomas4660 2 жыл бұрын

Mr Bumble - OLIVER TWIST - Charles Dickens

@michaelpeters5696 2 жыл бұрын

hence why I'll never visit.........

@psdaengr911 Ай бұрын

I heard that "lawmakers are tools or fools".

@ColinMill1 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing how things have changed. Prior to 911 I carried a Leatherman on many aircraft between the UK and Germany and was never stopped.

@ChuckieFinzter 2 жыл бұрын

I expect the blade would be less than 3 inches.

@ColinMill1 2 жыл бұрын

@@ChuckieFinzter Yes, however it was a locking type so probably not fitting into the folding pocket-knife category.

@ChuckieFinzter 2 жыл бұрын

@@ColinMill1 Oh right.... Going to have to check the length of the blade on mine, but I know it's not a lock blade.

@thedave7760 2 жыл бұрын

I remember transiting through Tokyo back in the late 90's it was a few hours till my connecting flight so I did some shopping. I walked straight in to the "king of knives" shop and bought myself a new Swiss army put it in my hand luggage then boarded my next plane, once in the air I went down the back of the plane for a quick cigarette. They had all sorts of knives big small and everything in between.

@Kardiac 2 жыл бұрын

I remember forgetting one was in my bag going through Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam (a work trip) and being stopped. The problem was actually a Zippo lighter as they didn't allow lighters that don't automatically shut off to be taken on planes. I got to post that home. They'd no issue with my Leatherman which being a Leatherman Pulse locks everything including the blade.

@orical2832 2 жыл бұрын

This is utterly pathetic. I have a multitool (father's day gift from my daughter over a decade ago) and I carry it everywhere. I'm over 50, never been in trouble, yet the law presumes I'm carrying it for criminal intentions. Isn't that totally contrary to innocent until proven guilty???

@RoganGunn 2 жыл бұрын

"Isn't that totally contrary to innocent until proven guilty???" Sadly not, as the law you are contravening is to carry it in the first place, without a specific defence. The criminal act is to be in possession of it, not whatever you may use it for. Stupid, I know. That said, every multitool I have owned has had sub-3" non-locking blades, which fold to the outside of the handle (as in when the pliers bit is folded away, the blade can still be pulled out and put away.) If yours is like this, then it is totally legal to carry, provided no bladed bit (including screwdrivers, files etc) is longer than 3", and none of them lock open (i.e. requiring a switch/catch to close). Victorinox style Swiss Army knives, and any sub 3" slip-jointed non-locking folding knife are also exempt. It's a stupid law, end of story. Despite this, coppers will always try it and argue it's an offensive weapon. Easier to pick on you than a scary gang member with a carving knife down his pants. But as someone over 50 your odds of getting randomly searched are thankfully rather slim.

@sahhull 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately in the eyes of the law and the coppers.. You are guilty until you can provide proof of your innocence.

@georgebarnes8163 2 жыл бұрын

as long as the knife blade is non locking and under 75 mm in length the tool is perfectly legal.

@wms1530 2 жыл бұрын

@@georgebarnes8163 Seems a shame, since locking was introduced as a safety feature.

@georgebarnes8163 2 жыл бұрын

@@wms1530 agree, I use knives for cable stripping and would not use a non locking knife for that purpose, far to dangerous without the locking device.

@danielwilson5102 2 жыл бұрын

At this point I am convinced the law does more harm than good.

@TheManLab7 2 жыл бұрын

It does and it's always on the side of the criminal, where as a normal law abiding person always gets done over.

@berkshirejohn 2 жыл бұрын

In my youth my friends and I usually carried a pen knfe,lock knife or even a sheath knife used for a large variety of purposws but violence was not considered.Even boy scouts used to carry sheath knives to meetings.

@fivish 2 жыл бұрын

As a Scout I had a Swiss Army knife and a sheaf knife, sometimes a hand axe on my belt when out. I still have them 50 years on but they have to stay indoors or I would be a criminal.

@roberthardy3090 2 жыл бұрын

Apart from the occasional sliced toe playing splits on the school field in sandles!

@rayzalaf8988 2 жыл бұрын

A few years ago I was using a Swiss Army Knife, it slipped and folded back onto my thumb, luckily it hit my thumb nail but still drew blood, if it had been a locking knife this wouldn't have happened so I just don't understand why I'm not allowed to have one.

@TheManLab7 2 жыл бұрын

As you've witnessed, NO locking knifes can be extremely dangerous.

@tomriley5790 Жыл бұрын

It was a court decision so it's case law not in the act (which didn't comment), so technically it could be overturned but unlikely it will be .

@stirlingmoss4621 2 жыл бұрын

I always carried a large bladed locking knife in the car in France for picnics and the sheer hell of being able to. Always had to remember to leave it behind when returning to the UK, though.

@RobWhittlestone 2 жыл бұрын

Opinel knives are cult! Exactly what one needs for bread, cheese and fruit on a picnic!

@NicksKnives. 2 жыл бұрын

As of 2013 French knife carry laws are even worse than they are here in the UK. It's illegal in France to carry any knife at all now.

@stirlingmoss4621 2 жыл бұрын

@@NicksKnives. One of the benefits of mulitculturalism - daily stabbings. As a Boy Scout in the 60s, we all carried large bladed hunting knives as a part of the uniform...thanks for the tip, btw

@cohenworrior898 2 жыл бұрын

An umbrella has a pointy end. Yeah but what if it rains? Are you _sure_ it's going to rain? It's raining now ! ! ! Yes, but did you know that when you left the house carrying this umbrella with the pointy end?

@nobbycheeseman2915 2 жыл бұрын

It sounds like a law drafted in a way to make so little sense to law abiding people that they play safe and don't carry a handy tool around with them but someone who wants to stab another person will take one out with them anyway because they don't care what the law says.

@psdaengr911 Ай бұрын

A pliers multitool's knife is an awkward attack weapon compared to a much cheaper fixed knife, and practically useless as a bladed defence against an unexpected attack.

@Zodliness 2 жыл бұрын

They'll happily go the the extent of entrapment, asking you if you would use your pocket knife in self-defence (while conveying a verbal recreation of a potential scenario) to describe a situation where you might use your knife), if you foolishly answer 'yes' you would defend yourself. You will very likely be arrested for possession of a concealed offensive weapon. I'm speaking from personal experience.

@davidbernard7256 2 жыл бұрын

Being a tradie, the amount of times people ask you if you have a tool that they can quickly borrow. Multi tool is a tool and you never know when it can come in handy!

@RussellChapman99 2 жыл бұрын

No object is of itself good or bad. It is the intention of the person carrying it and how they intend to use it. The law about bladed articles is all topsy turvey. If you are criminally inclined, you will ignore the law anyway.

@jamiemorris7688 2 жыл бұрын

My main question at the moment would be for classic bike owners. Where "just in case of a breakdown" becomes a realistic possibility on a long trip. When carrying out certain repairs, it's much safer to have a locking blade than a free folding blade. If I'm doing a multi day trip where we are travelling through remote areas with little to no phone signal, the ability to conduct repairs becomes critical.

@albertchambers6960 2 жыл бұрын

As a motorcycle rider, I consider a multitool to be an essential part of my onboard equipment. Try repairing a flat tyre without a 'bladed tool.

@baldbeardyandbiking6686 2 жыл бұрын

I haver one on the belt of my bike trousers. I also have a second in my tool kit when I go trail riding. Lock me up, I'm a danger to society!

@johnduheaume6650 2 жыл бұрын

Albert Chambers, absolutely right! Coming back from a motorcycle tour of Ireland a few years ago I was stranded with a front wheel puncture an hour from Rosslare, ever since I've carried a plugging kit but that's useless with out a pliers to remove the nail and a sharp blade to cut the plug off flush and a miniature air pump, I guess I'm braking the law having a multitool for such purpose unless I already have a puncture .

@andycleary6209 2 жыл бұрын

I also have a multi tool in my tool kit under the seat, very handy item to have to make emergency repairs at the road side.

@johnduheaume6650 2 жыл бұрын

@@andycleary6209 I find it hard to believe that carrying a multitool in a toolroll under the seat can be considered to be carrying an offensive weapon in public but it seems people have been successful charged with just that, I guess it is also illegal to carry a knife blade more than 3 inches in a caravan or campervan unless actually cooking , it would be illegal, how long before you need it is it legal if ever?

@iainamurray 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnduheaume6650 You can get multi-tools that have non-locking blades that are under 3 inches.

@Boost00130 2 жыл бұрын

In Canada the size and type of the knife is mostly irrelevant. The intent of the person carrying it is most important. So, if I carry a small knife (or anything actually) because I am scared I could be attacked and so I want it to defend myself, it is a weapon and I can be charged. If, on the other hand I carry a knife because I may need it to cut some string, then it is perfectly legal.

@timholder6825 2 жыл бұрын

2008, was with some friends in Kennington Park (London) smoking a joint. Police came, we all got pulled. Station cells for a couple of hours no charges, not even a ticket, nothing. I had an expensive Gerber multitool that I carried with me as normal. Handy for all sorts of things. The police at the station saw it. One, realising the weed smoking thing was going to come to nothing, wanted to charge me for that. Luckily the desk sergeant, after examining it mentioned that he had the same model and also carried it, but as part of his police gear. He didn't want to charge me, but the impression I got, because of the attitude/objection of the first officer, was that I wasn't going to be getting it back. When I came to leave, the sergeant did give it back. It was an expensive tool, a prized possession. I think the sergeant felt the same about his Gerber. The other just wanted an excuse to nick me, as there was nothing else to justify the pull (only Andy had weed on him, bit we all got pulled and none of us were charged in any way.....much to the chagrin of the copper that nicked us......spiteful).

@professorweeto 2 жыл бұрын

I used to always carry a leatherman with me for years. I live in the countryside and rarely visit a town, but on occasions I did, I would realise it's in my pocket and worry that I am breaking the law unintentionally.

@nickgandy3 Жыл бұрын

Being a mechanic and a motorcyclist I carry one such multitool in my tank bag for road side repairs and it's got me out of mechanical troubles many times over the years

@CGRLCDR Жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting this. I live in Chatham, NJ, USA and the knife laws here are a little different. For one thing, you can't carry a knife, locking or otherwise, into a hospital. I know that now, but I didn't know that in 2017. At the time I was at home with a Leatherman pocket tool and pouch on my belt. I was trying to text a friend but it wasn't coming our right. When I tried to tell my wife we realized that I couldn't speak and that my right side was paralyzed. I was having a stroke so the ambulance came and whisked me off to the hospital. In the process of trying to lift me onto a hospital bed, the pouch opened and my Leatherman tool fell on the floor. The nurse picked it up and unfolded the blade and started waving it around demanding to know what I was doing with a knife in a hospital. She called security and they called the police. I couldn't explain myself because I couldn't talk, so the gave me a stern lecture and confiscated my Leatherman. They warned me that if I ever came back with a knife that I would be arrested. The good news in all this is that the policeman returned it to me when I was released from the hospital.

@stephenclark9917 2 жыл бұрын

The corkscrew is useful if you are attending a work meeting.

@1davidsmall 2 жыл бұрын

Or a party in lockdown!

@adrianthomas4660 2 жыл бұрын

Removing the “ eyes to the right “ have it !

@philsmith3987 2 жыл бұрын

Question; I’ve seen a lot of police officers carrying these on their belts, if they count as a weapon does it then follow that they are armed police officers as they are carrying a weapon? I assume they have to go through extensive training to become armed police officers and if they haven’t done the training but are carrying a weapon, are they not breaking the law by carrying it?

@MrEdrftgyuji 2 жыл бұрын

Police are "special" people, who don't have to follow the same rules as us.

@lesigh1749 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrEdrftgyuji They certainly like to think so. 🙄

@Pooknottin 2 жыл бұрын

They also carry tasers and CS gas which are banned under the Geneva Convention. Us poor civvies aren't covered by that however, so it's okay for them to zap and gas us.

@rampak1 2 жыл бұрын

Police are not allowed to carry any tool or weapon that is not part of official equipment. In fact I remember a case a while ago where a police officer was prosecuted for carrying a multi-tool because it was not part of his official kit.

@Pooknottin 2 жыл бұрын

@@rampak1 Interesting. Doesn't make me feel any better about them having tasers and gas, but then I do live in Leeds.

@Proactivity 2 жыл бұрын

Informative and relevant to me. I use a variety of tools for work and often get asked to do jobs for family and friends, and so often find tools and knives in my pockets and bags that could easily be considered weapons in a different context. I don't have any reason to be stopped and searched, and my skin colour helps avoid that, but I've often wondered where I'd stand if I was found in possession of a folding knife or screwdriver from a job last week.

@JackDinn 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know if i can watch your videos too much, i mean they are great and very well done, it's just that they make my blood boil and seriously affect my blood pressure.

@isthi000ify Жыл бұрын

Completely know where you're coming from.

@Nick_G7IZR 2 жыл бұрын

That's daft. The reason you carry a tool kit in your car is just in case you need to fix something. You don't know what you might need to fix because you don't know what is going to break, but you carry it nonetheless. So carrying a multi-tool is the same logic. I carry one all the time and the amount of time I didn't know I would need pliers when I left the house, but found I did, I've lost count of! In my case the blade is under 3" (I think, I'm just going to check). But the purpose of a multitool is just that, its a tool with multiple uses so you don't know when you might need it and what you might need it for!

@tomcardale5596 2 жыл бұрын

at the end of the day, if you were planning on going to fix something you'd have brought a tool kit with you!

@twatmunro 2 жыл бұрын

@@tomcardale5596 -- That's what a multi-tool is. It's a small tool kit that lets you do 80% of the things you could do with a full tool kit without having to lug a great big box of tools around with you. I keep tools in my car. I'm not "planning" for my car to break down. If I could anticipate that, I'd take it to a mechanic and get it fixed. We keep the tools there precisely because we can't anticipate when it might break down. We carry multitools for exactly the same reason.

@sirtarquin7288 2 жыл бұрын

I keep one on my motorcycle when going on long rides. It stays there when I get off. It has been handy many times. I will carry on doing this.

@darranstyler 2 жыл бұрын

Very useful video. I work at music festivals as an IT consultant and have avoided taking a multitool because of the small blades and instead taken multiple other tools. I have a valid reason for a blade such as wire stripping, cable cutting etc especially on emergency repairs that need to be sorted quickly and it has slowed me down not having a multitool in my pocket. The other reason though that puts me off carrying it is if for any reason I lose it (or it's stolen) and falls in to the wrong hands, especially children.

@eightw5783 2 жыл бұрын

The shocking thing about this (which I had never realised before) is that the judge effectively overruled the jury which to me undermines the justice system entirely.

@DavidFraser007 2 жыл бұрын

I'm just glad I don't live in the UK now and don't have to abide by these oppressive rules.

@MrEdrftgyuji 2 жыл бұрын

OI! You got an effin loicence to leave the UK?

@hfjtrytry9216 2 жыл бұрын

EVERYTHINGS "OPPRESSIVE" NOWADAYS LMAO

@weefunkster 2 жыл бұрын

@@hfjtrytry9216 "lmao" says the brocolli haircut dribbler

@harrycallaghan2531 2 жыл бұрын

Where did you move to may I ask as I live in West London and wish to get out of this $h1thole one day soon as well. Had enough of this dump.

@DavidFraser007 2 жыл бұрын

@@harrycallaghan2531 We sold up moved from Kentish Town to a provincial part of the Czech Republic in 2006. I was offered a job in a University in Brno. Never looked back, but sometimes visit.

@richardc3194 2 жыл бұрын

What about having a 'Rescue' multitool in your car in case of an emergency, which has a lockable blade designed to cut seat belts?

@treemover7259 2 жыл бұрын

those are normally designed in such a way that the blade is not accesible to be used as a weapon via a guide for the seatbelt to go into

@richardc3194 2 жыл бұрын

@@treemover7259 I would guess that type would be ok as it's not useable as a weapon, but I was thinking of Swiss army style design (eg. Victorinox), which although optimised as a rescue tool nevertheless has cutting blades.

@RoganGunn 2 жыл бұрын

@@richardc3194 Lockable blade? No, not allowed without a specific defence (i.e. you're on your way to work where you use it.) 🙄 If it is a Swiss Army style Victorinox slip-joint folding knife, it's ok to carry. The law is specific about *non-locking* folding knives with a blade of less than 3", provided the item you're talking about falls under this category you're golden. But check, as Victorinox make a 'rescue knife' that has a fixed blade (verboten) and one that has a locking ~3" blade (also verboten), both with a built in' belt-cutter' - which sounds like it may be the model you have.

@bikeralw 2 жыл бұрын

We tour abroad every summer in our motorhome. On the last occasion we were stopped as usual at the port of Dover and a lady security guard asked if I had any knives... When I said of course I have she requested to come inside and inspected the contents of our cutlery drawer, which contained the usual steak and bread knives etc. But there was also an Epinal folding/locking picnic knife, with a blade about 5 inches in length, in the drawer which I'd bought on a previous trip to France. This was confiscated, despite being the smallest knife in my van... What a farce the law is...

@WasOnHisBike 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting and informative. I do go camping a lot, and I do carry a small camper knife nearly all the time with my outdoor trousers. After watching your video I am glad to say that the blade is less than 3" long and non locking. I use the screwdriver bit and the can/bottle opener as much as the blade but the cork bottle opener is a disappointment. ;-)

@tonysheerness2427 2 жыл бұрын

The Police regard anything that you carry that is made of a hard material an offensive weapon.

@TheSadButMadLad 2 жыл бұрын

Including the mobile phone that you are using to film them.

@gilbert7794 2 жыл бұрын

The U.K. has many stupid unthought out laws that punish the majority due to a tiny number of idiots, Police should stop and search the part of the population who commit the majority of knife crimes instead of annoying the law abiding.

@lesigh1749 2 жыл бұрын

Oh come on, the police now regard gender pronouns as an offensive weapon. 😏

@lesigh1749 2 жыл бұрын

@@gilbert7794 having a completely disarmed populace isn't about law and order, its about being assured that public cant and wont fight back when pushed onto cattle trucks. Weve just been treated like inmates in a prison for months at a time over two years. The police don't do that in countries where the citizens have guns.

@hfjtrytry9216 2 жыл бұрын

@@lesigh1749 Stop with your nonsense lol why is it that countries with guns are far more dangerous than countries without guns? Sure theoretically an armed populace could overthrow a government but any decent country would never need guns for that to happen and remember police and army are also just like you and me, if things got so bad the whole country rebelled im confident a lot of those would rebel too hence no need for guns.

@hatchin 2 жыл бұрын

Being a Polish who lives in London for over 8 years, I feel like English law really lacks common sense sometimes. It's too much bureaucracy, not enough common sense. Also I find the obsession with health and safety to be quite hypocritical, especially in the case of a folding pocket knife with a locking blade. What happened to my own health and safety? Why i have to compromise my own safety by using a dangerous blade without locking mechanism? It's all pick and choose. The law applies when it's convenient for the state.

@christopherkidwell9817 2 жыл бұрын

Which is exactly why someone needs to challenge this law on human rights basis and get it thrown out.

@hatchin 2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherkidwell9817 Well, I've been just ignoring this law, and caring my small leatherman knife WITH a locking blade for years now (in my backpack) as it's very handy in everyday situations. It's such a stupid law, preventing people from possesing small practical blades (with the safety of locking blade) for everyday use, while anyone can go to a shop or online and order a big ass, super sharp kitchen knives, cleavers, and what not, you name it. Where is the logic in that? If I ever get confronted about it I will go straight to court with it and battle it out.

@slomorico8711 2 жыл бұрын

I've carried the same 300 year old viking skinner ever since my grandfather put it in my hands when I was eight years old, the only thing ever said about it was about how unique and beautiful it is. Never leaves my side. Thank you to grandpa Thomas for teaching me how to be a man instead of a spoiled brat.

@johnno8973 2 жыл бұрын

AS an engineer, I was going airside at Gatwick airport with a tool case with a stanley knife and some long screwdrivers amongst many other tools. The security woman went berserk when she realised that I had a small compact penknife in my pocket. After some common sense from her manager, the knife was kept back and returned to me on completion of my work. Needles to say, what was in the toolcase was theoretically a greater threat than my weaney penknife many times over. On top of that, having a leatherman held back whilst going onboard for a cruise! Yup, us old codgers are a real threat!

@johndoogan3712 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I own a Gerber 'bear jaws multi tool similar to a Leatherman. The blade portion locks into place by a spring loaded bar, the same as most pocket knives aka Swiss Army knife etc. The blades on these items are under or at the 3 inch legal length. Although legal, there can arise the possibility of being prosecuted for going equipped for theft simply owing to the number of tools built into a multi tool. A lot of military personnel have these, usually as part of their survival or escape and evasion kits. The MOD issue clasp knife is a stainless steel item consisting of a blade and a bottle/tin opener whereas the WW2 jack knife also has a marlin spike. I had one of these as a Boy Scout in the 1960's. Historically, boys used these for removing stones from horses hooves.

@BlueKnows 2 жыл бұрын

I own 2 leatherman multitools, one is a micra (perfectly legal) that I carry daily and the other is a wave plus (certainly not legal) that lives with the camping and outdoors kit. Had multiple cuts from the micra folding back on my finger but it's better than a fine or worse case scenario, a jail term.

@kenbrown2808 2 жыл бұрын

I carry a micra as part of my standard pocket load in the US, and before visiting the UK, I checked, and I can open the blade, one handed, so I didn't carry it in the UK.

@dmarcouxbeatty374 2 жыл бұрын

Well, thank you! You have just answered that! U.S. ARMY living in Germany. My Mum was British and I still have family in England. That side of the family had not met my husband and children. Military spouse and mother of Scouts. I always carried a multi tool in my purse. Good to have because you never know. Customs took it! It had been a gift and many times I was thankful I had it! It couldn't have done harm to anyone in any way! In fact it had saved me many times! I get why people are thinking the government has too much control of our lives! Mine didn't even have a knife on it!

@danielswine4891 2 жыл бұрын

As an electrician i find all of this interesting. I have been stopped and questioned before but always let go very quickly and usually with an acknoledgement that it's fine due to work.

@globalobserver8934 2 жыл бұрын

Biro pen or even a pencil can be effective. As they say, the pen is mightier than the sword.

@lesigh1749 2 жыл бұрын

Ask John Wick!

@globalobserver8934 2 жыл бұрын

@@lesigh1749 Jason Bourne would also agree. There are many ways to protect yourself even with empty hands but the ever growing popularity of knife carrying is not good.

@squits 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for explaining this. It seems stupid though, getting the blade out on a multitool isn't like flicking a switch, you would need to be superhuman to get the blade out in less than five seconds. you've got to unpouch it, open it, locate the correct side of the tool the blade is on, then locate if it's the left or right side of that side and then pull the blade out. It isn't an offensive weapon in any meaning of the word as it isn't just "there" But this is all moot as I'm a school caretaker, and I'd be in uniform and literally tell the copper to fuck off.

@darrylday30 2 жыл бұрын

I was teaching aircraft maintenance at a local college and kept a multitool clipped to my belt loop. It was very handy for opening access panels, cutting rope, stripping wires, sharpening my pencil, etc. The most important thing, in my opinion, was impressing upon my students the importance of pride in your tools and the skill to use them. Unfortunately, fear plays a role in every society and the sight of a “dangerous weapon” gleaming from my waist was not something encouraged in an academic environment. I attached a lanyard and carabiner to the offending object so I could discreetly hide it in my pocket. My take away from this video is that discretion is not enough. One must always have a specific and plausible excuse at the ready at all times that will satisfy authority figures. Eventually, I decided it wasn’t worth the mental effort and left it at home. Now, I’m more likely to ask a student for the tool necessary to demonstrate the task, hand the tool back and ask the student to complete the task. I still carry my multi tool occasionally but just around the house.

@kentneil7100 2 жыл бұрын

Important points made and a great video..... I might add the law can be an ass at times as the law is more directed at gangs so everyone has to suffer rather than a human right to own and use articles (tools) to perform everyday tasks (not including work tasks).

@RichardEnglander 2 жыл бұрын

@BBB please do a deep dive into shotgun certificates, the behaviour of some police forces around them, and how to handle a request to hand over arms. It seems that insurance policies won't pay out for legal help in the case of voluntary surrender, only revocation. Good people are losing their guns for no good reason, just panicked police.

@sahhull 2 жыл бұрын

Its an over reach and a gun grab. Who would you call, the police? This is why we need a DVLA but for firearms

@iamthefatstig 2 жыл бұрын

I carry a multitool in my car as I was always advised by my uncle ( A traffic officer) to carry something in the car that can cut a seatbelt in case of an accident. He'd seen far too many people trapped in his career. He passed away a long while ago, but I've never forgotten the advice. These days at least you can buy a specific tool for smashing the glass and cutting a belt from the likes of the AA and Halfords.

@Rick-ve5lx 2 жыл бұрын

I carry a “ResQme” one on my car key which has a seatbelt cutter and spring-loaded glass breaker - it’s very light and small with a quick-release clip.

@sotonlock7894 2 жыл бұрын

Many thanks for making this type of video, it clears up what is a pointed article, blade length and locking blades. More like this, is desirable.

@WoollyWanderers 2 жыл бұрын

Bit worrying as I spend a lot of time travelling the UK and abroad in my motorhome. I have a kitchen full of knives including a large bread knife. I also carry quite a number of tools including screwdrivers, a 3 ft breaker bar and a claw hammer. I'm sure this would be classed as good reason but you never know.

@Bullsquid592 2 жыл бұрын

A lot of the time the problems arise when you have easy access to your tools, only keep what you expect to use in easy reach. I camp a lot and have no issues as long as my blades are wrapped up in my bag when I'm on the move. If you can argue reasonably in court that it's difficult to use your tools in the heat of the moment by keeping them somewhere safe you'll be fine, though jobsworth bobbies are everywhere.. I got nicked for a toffee hammer once lol

@Pooknottin 2 жыл бұрын

Carrying it in your motorhome should be legal. Carrying it in your pocket to go shopping for groceries, not so much.

@sahhull 2 жыл бұрын

It depends on if the copper needs to soothe his ego. I have a van full of various tools. I could be seen as going equipped.

@Pooknottin 2 жыл бұрын

@@sahhull There is that lottery.

@tarnmonath 2 жыл бұрын

You've set me wondering about the Swiss card. It contains a number of tools, including a pin, a small pair of scissors (two non-folding blades) and a knife with a fixed 37mm blade. It's very useful, but is it legal?

@RJ-wx3fh 2 жыл бұрын

In theory, I'd say it's not technically a non locking folder and so is a fixed blade that one must have good reason for carrying in public, but I'd hope common sense would prevail if someone stopped and searched were to be found with one as its a tiny blade that is part of an inoffensive multitool.... Well, one would hope....

@fatbikemontage2931 2 жыл бұрын

I carry a Leatherman Wave multi tool in my mountain bike rucksack. It sits next to a specific bike tool, but rather than the blade, the main purpose is the enclosed pliers, which is the best feature. The judgement cited is really worrying, as I clearly carry it just in case I need it, not for a specific purpose, although I guess you could say emergency maintenance. The difference is I am doing a sport where I hope it is obvious why I carry it. Ironically the last time I needed to use it was to do some trail maintenance, where a few tree roots were exposed and would have tripped a rider.

@50001mick 2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was because it has a knife. The officer said it can’t be bigger than 3 and a half inches. I was asking about a pair of pliers with screwdriver, knife and other tools.

@Jonathan_McConnell 2 жыл бұрын

My brother made and brought pasta with him to the cinemas when we watched Dune. He brought a metal fork and a butter knife of sorts, it is completely blunt. Would he be in trouble for carrying a knife?

@RichardEnglander 2 жыл бұрын

BBB has explained before that even a blunt butter knife counts as a fixed blade knife. Get your spoons sharpened.

@Spacewolfdad 2 жыл бұрын

I inherited from my late father a penknife, I am very fond of it as it reminds me of him. He used it for cleaning his pipe, it has a 4.5cm blade and a blunt spike for that purpose. I used to carry it with me, but since this legislation my son advised me not to as he felt that the excuse I would use for carrying it wouldn’t wash with the authorities (I carried it ‘just in case I needed it’). It is now on my desk and is my letter opener. Was my son’s advice correct?

@RoganGunn 2 жыл бұрын

Provided the 4.5cm blade nor the blunt spike (assuming that is under 3") lock open, then you can carry it legally without needing the defence of a 'specific purpose'... However, if it has sentimental value, I wouldn't, as you have no power to stop some idiot policeman taking it off you anyway, despite what the law says. I'd buy a cheap non-locking folding knife with a sub 3" blade if you want an every-day-carry (EDC) tool that you're not too fussed about losing. Victorinox Swiss Army Knives fall into this category.

@Spacewolfdad 2 жыл бұрын

@@RoganGunn Thank you for that advice, I did think that at the very least it would be confiscated if I were to be stopped. I may get a Victorinox penknife, I had one before, but I lost it.

@NicksKnives. 2 жыл бұрын

As Rogan Gunn says if neither the blade nor the pipe cleaner lock then it's perfectly legal to carry but as he says I wouldn't carry it anyway as the police have the power to confiscate it regardless of you following the law or not.

@Spacewolfdad 2 жыл бұрын

@@NicksKnives. Thank you for that, I was using it today to open some letters and reflected on how our society is so attenuated from when I was a lad. 60 years ago we had sheath knives, bought over the counter at the local outdoor sports shop. We used them to whittle sticks, play ‘splits’ and throw at a wooden target, we had no thought or inclination to use them as a weapon. Less violent and more outgoing times, we had adventures, I don’t think kids today have adventures anymore.

@NicksKnives. 2 жыл бұрын

@@Spacewolfdad I absolutely agree, far too many laws are so overreaching these days that it can turn perfectly law abiding citizens into criminals simply by owning something that the government has suddenly decided to make illegal.

@jonathancallaghan9638 2 жыл бұрын

In UK you have to ask shop assistant to hand you scissors in a shop, while in Estonia and Czech Republic you can carry a pistol on you.

@fnt97fnt97 2 жыл бұрын

In 1998, returning from field service trip from Spain to USA, I didn't have enough time to put my small toolbox in the checked luggage and had it as carry-on on the flights from Madrid to Amsterdam to Philadelphia. Inside, I had a number of screwdrivers, a hammer, wrenches, and two large hunting knifes purchased in Spain. Nobody said a word at security checkpoints.

@ajcgolf69 2 жыл бұрын

My understanding of the law around this before watching the video was that is illegal to carry a knife in a public place that either has a fixed/locking blade and/or had a blade length of over 3 inches. But it was not illegal to own knives of that description and carry them in non public spaces, or when travelling to and from somewhere you might use them. Examples of which might include: Being outdoors whilst camping etc. , a tradesman travelling to and from work in private buildings, or a chef taking his bag of chef's knives from home to work. It is legal to carry a knife in public places as long as it has a blade length under 3 inches and does not have a locking blade, i.e. a pen knife. When I worked in a hotel I used to carry an opinel slip joint knife with a 2 inch blade which I used to open boxes. I had a leatherman multi-tool but chose not to bring it as it has a locking blade which cannot be carried in public places. This was my understanding of the rules, will be interesting to see if i've gotten anything wrong or if anything has changed in the last 7 years or so.

@BlueKnows 2 жыл бұрын

I believe the opinel knives classed as locking blades also. I guess you could glue the bit that twists open to get around that

@baldbeardyandbiking6686 2 жыл бұрын

You can still have a locking blade in a public place but you need a good reason. For example, a mobile mechanic with a stanley knife at the roadside repairing a vehicle or a tree surgeon with a folding saw trimming a bush. As for your leatherman, why not take it to work. You are the tradesman travelling to and from work in a private building.

@ajcgolf69 2 жыл бұрын

@@BlueKnows When you get to the smallest opinel's (forget the numbers now) they don't have the the twist lock they are just a slip joint. The larger ones with the twist lock are classed as locking knives in the UK

@ajcgolf69 2 жыл бұрын

@@baldbeardyandbiking6686 I didn't take the leatherman as although the hotel was a private building, it was open to the public and always populated with lots of people, I was concerned that might qualify it as a public. Thought i'd be safe and take the small knife, also it was handier to carry in the pocket and I didn't normally have need to the other tools on the leatherman in that job

@michaeldowns5270 2 жыл бұрын

Any self-protection attributes to any tool should be legal. The miss-use of any tool to harm others is illegal by being used to violate the rights of another.

@RaptorJesus. 2 жыл бұрын

i have a swiss army knife on my keychain, it comes in super handy on occasion. i'm in the same boat a Giles, having a multitool in my pocket just makes life a little easier. i've opened bottles and popped corks at friends houses, i've tightened loose screws, i've cut open stubborn packaging etc etc. but i don't carry the multitool on me with a specific useage in mind, it is just handy when a need arises.

@pauldean8638 2 жыл бұрын

Leather man are already addressing the issue of locking blades , I went to send mine back for repair and they stated my blade will be removed for any other tool I like . Responsibility from the manufacturer right there

@bigbill74scots 2 жыл бұрын

I had this debate with a police officer once when we were invited to speak at a combatives seminar held specifically for the police as their SPEAR training was being found to be more than lacking. In short, almost all officers carry a leatherman type multi tool with them when on duty yet they have no exemption to do so. Why then is it illegal for me to do the same. Arguments from them included likelihood of use but surely playing odds of use isn't a legal point? In the end a PC is held to the same weapons laws as you and I so why do we face prosecution but not them?

@fedyno4reviews 2 жыл бұрын

Nanny state, authoritarianism on the rise and increasing inequality between ordinary people and the super rich/those in power.

@martinriley106 Жыл бұрын

“The Law is an Ass” and this example proves it! I live on a farm and need a variety of tools sharp edged or serrated blades as well as screwdrivers, Stanley knife and axe, etc. I have no way of predicting what tool is necessary for the job as often you have to have interchangeable tools. This law would prohibit any trades too, as an electrician I would find myself in trouble with the law too. Blades that don’t lock for a tradesman are potentially lethal.

@susanjolly3295 2 жыл бұрын

We have a Gerber multi tool and it’s a very useful tool. Just today I used it to unscrew a box off a wall, I would not take it out with me, as I have no need, but I can see why people do carry this useful tool! It’s a shame we are all tarred with the same brush these days. My brother in the 60/70s always had his Swiss Army knife in his pocket, never a problem in those days

@MB_EDC Жыл бұрын

Great video - please keep going with this series of videos. The more examples the better. I don't agree with this law - but it is the law and I want to comply. I have recommended your channel several times from my EDC channel as I think you give the clearest explanations of the UK knife laws. Thank you.

@nigelgregory4777 2 жыл бұрын

The UK knife law is simple, no fixed, locking or blade over 3 inches on your person or within reach, a car glove box is within reach, I go wild camping, consider me a bushcrafter, knives and saws and my axe are my tools, when travelling they are packed away in the boot of the car with the rest of my kit, which may also contain a hunting rifle, This is safe and allowed, if it was on the passenger seat it would not be allowed. When out of the woods in an urban area my axe, knives and yes, my leatherman are in my pack, people don't know I've got them and I can't get to them. It's about showing responsibility if you are stopped, I have never had a problem in Scotland with the police, infact if any coppers from the Inverness area are reading, I think you're brilliant 👍👍 Thanks for posting so many great articles 👌👍👍👏

@elliegreen4738 2 жыл бұрын

Just saw the notification for this video now, not sure if it had only arrived and it's useful at this time because a relative of mine is supposed to appear in Court tomorrow charged with having a knife and fold up Saw in his Backpack. The only problem is that the Gardai are referring to the items as two knives and are failing to mention that they were found in the bag with the tent and camping gear.

@richardsutcliffe3864 2 жыл бұрын

The issue of locking blades worries me. For a number of years I had a knife for work use that was specifically a locking blade for health and safety reasons. Nobody wants to scissor off their fingers with a folding blade when in use.

@GenialHarryGrout 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the explanation. Many cyclists carry some sort of multi tool which they might need to do repairs while cycling, note the word "might". since some cyclists may never need to repair their bikes while out but still carry such a tool just in case. I once needed a knife for work I was doing at home so bought one from my local hardware shop. I had to ask for it to be put into a plain brown paper bag so I could walk home with it.

@amosluyk 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! This is something that has been on my mind lately, as I often forget to take my multi tool off my belt when I go out.

@wgreenjr81 2 жыл бұрын

I live in the States and somehow the algorithm presented me with this video. To the presenter, very well explained and in depth without being overly dry, were I a citizen of your region I would subscribe. As to the topic of the video, all I can say is that it is unfortunate that a video such as this is needed.

@davijalo 2 жыл бұрын

Was told at a police station in Queensland that it is legal to carry a multi tool. She said if it was illegal a lot of police officers would be breaking the law.

@richardtruthconquersall9226 11 ай бұрын

Story time. Went to court building to drop off some papers .in my dinner time while at work. Electrical engineering. Walked in building, security was there emptied my pockets . Lock knife .lock Stanley knife 2 screw drivers . Court security told me if I leave them there they will destroy them , luckily told me if I give to solicitors on the front all is OK. Done that. All was good. Shows some people can still do there job 👍

@xTerminatorAndy 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mr. Belt. This is exactly the kind of content we love from you. The law explained with real-world case examples. 9.5/10 :-)

@TheRunereaper Жыл бұрын

Some years ago I took a very short and light machete on a ferry to France. It was a gift for an arborist friend who wanted something to remove light, whippy branches which can be problematic, especially for the one-handed chainsaws used by the profession. I made all the necessary declarations to the ferry company but from check-in to boarding was treated like an armed and dangerous person. When I queried what all the fuss was about and asserted that I had complied with all their requirements, I was told by their rude, rubber-heeled security manager that I was carrying a weapon and needed to be monitored at all times. I had the satisfaction of stunning him into silence by demanding that they withdraw the issue of steak knives from their on board restaurant. Needless to say, no such withdrawal has ever been made.

@Okipouros 2 жыл бұрын

I have a bladeless multitool. It has a removable jig-saw blade for metal, that you can probably swap for something that has a knife edge. Most used has been the file, to remove burs or rust from stuff

@Jon.Cullen 2 жыл бұрын

Back in 1984 I was flying from Heathrow to JFK on a Pan Am flight, and was carrying my Sgian Dubh (small knife worn in the sock, and an accessory with a kilt), in my hand luggage. I declared it at security, and they took it off me, saying that it would be given to the cabin crew, and returned to me on landing at JFK. That all seemed reasonable, I had no objections. When I got on the plane, withing 5 minutes a flight attendant approached me, confirmed my name, and handed my Sgian Dubh back to me. Other passengers were still boarding... I have no doubt that I wouldn't manage any of that today.

@JackBlack-gh5yf 2 жыл бұрын

I often carry a folding pruning saw (lockable and longer than 3"), mainly in the countryside, but I don't live in the countryside. I make walking sticks and staffs, catapults, and also cup and coat hooks, and carry it for this purpose. I wonder if the saw would be classed as a 'bladed article'?

@q.e.d.9112 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, it would. I, too, have one of those pruning saws. I have always thought it would be good for either attack or defence. I brought it into the house from the garden shed and it now lives in the top of the wardrobe where it’s available in an emergency such as home invasion.