This is not a way to understand people. This is a way to estimate supposed privilege based on certain categorisations which we do not know to be consequential in individual experiences. I think we should try to treat each other as individuals and not make any assumption of privilege based on these categorizations unless we know statistically they are the most influential factors in human wellbeing. Edit: spelling
@aleka..5 жыл бұрын
So... I guess you don't know how much you don't know 🤷🏻. Why would you count yourself in *we*. There are scientists and us who pay attention. We know a lot.
@HaseoOkami5 жыл бұрын
woah... just the fact you have to put "Individual" in there (that's how you spell it by the way) means you're purposely trying to ignore the problems and the statement that is meant when using the term "privilege". As well as WHAT SOMEONE MEANS ABOUT IT. PRIVILEGE being called out is not supposed to make you feel good darling. Its supposed to make you see the world through a different person's eyes via inter-sectional relationships in society. But of course... you're to focus on being butt hurt that someone said you're privileged.
@andreas01015 жыл бұрын
@@HaseoOkami grow up kid
@omowhanre5 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha...I see ALOT of hurt feelings over a talk that is supposedly meaningless. Fragility is real.
@LisaNarozhnykh5 жыл бұрын
But... we do have statistics shoeing that these categories do. affect individuals. What are you even trying to say, OP?
@johnlegar72355 жыл бұрын
As Eugenia says, you can put "anything" in there - anything to fit a preconceived narrative.
@HaseoOkami5 жыл бұрын
You sure can! (finally a smart comment!) The real honest answer comes down to this. boiling down to the facts and mentality and the explanations and the evidence and blah blah blah. your "preconceived narrative" is a matter of what your are predisposed to believe. If you believe X and someone has proof that it is not X but Y you are more than likely NOT going to change your mind on X. The more attached you are to X, the less likely Y will appeal to you as an alternative or even just an option.
@RNorthex5 жыл бұрын
@@HaseoOkami On top of that people are wired to be biased and drawn to definitive answers, even if they are inconclusive or flat out wrong. We don't like being left with 'maybe's and 'depends on's. Ironically, this type of 'abstract math' leads exactly to the type of statistics that progressivists like her often complain about categorizing people without the consideration of the many variables that factor into it. That top comment describes the problem with this presentation all too perfectly.
@violet-trash5 жыл бұрын
A white male working 12 hour shifts at minimum wage _clearly_ has more privilege than a rich Asian woman! _She proved it with MATHS!_
@sarastewart43795 жыл бұрын
Did we watch the same thing? That's not what she is saying at all. It sounds like you are dismissing privilege and she is not at all.
@film94915 жыл бұрын
Yah this isn't so much math as it is a diagram explaining her opinion.
@WeAreShowboat5 жыл бұрын
You can try to remove religion from society, but unquestionable dogma will pop back up in places you don’t expect.
@KevinThrasher5 жыл бұрын
Best to just leave them to their own communities. Gets a bit sticky when a dogma dictates that all of the communities combine with each other and is promoted by a tyrannical state.
@dcterr1 Жыл бұрын
I agree that dogma is one of the worst traits of humanity, but part of the problem with dogma is its mindless adherents. I think we all need to think for ourselves, which is ultimately the only defense we have against dogma.
@philliplopez22315 жыл бұрын
I disagree. The math model works only so long as you plug in actual measurable values. By substituting morally ambiguous values such as white or Male the model fails. I will point out that the argument of priviledge is misunderstood by most including the educated. Look up the definition. Priviledge is earned. So rich would be a priviledge. But here is where the process gets blurry. White is correlation, not causation for measuring average inequality. Same for being Male. At best we can look to correlation to help identify the actual cause of successes and failures such as propensity to apply yourself in school, reading level, willingness to work, aptitude for starting your own business, etc. Rework your model. Include actual values. Include data that takes us from racism and gender discrimination to identifying equality of opportunity and we might just get somewhere.
@HaseoOkami5 жыл бұрын
1. White and Male are both measurable factors. Both visually and extensively (through further genetic tests...let's skip this part looks a bit fascy). 2. The factor is also measurable by the systemic issues that exist through that society I.E. a simple systemic issue that SHOULD NOT BE CONTROVERSIAL, is that Black Americans how less in inheritance than White Americans. Which has causes themselves... (if your answer is anything other slavery or Jim Crowe/ Fascist American in the 20th century and onward you're wrong). 3. Finally... this factor is also measurable, and also equatable. That means... omg! You can make an equation for it. She dumbs it down very well honestly. You can go even further than what she said mathematically. I mean, when your society encourages you to have hierarchies based off of a religious, monetary, and elitist mentality of course you're going to have many unjust (considering each of them have their own fallacies for having power).
@tylerpoppy80955 жыл бұрын
@@HaseoOkami I don't dispute the fact that you can measure whether someone is male or white. That part is obvious as you stated. What I do take issue with is how do you measure the importance of someone being being male to their societal standings. This is why people use the word privilege. If being male or any other categorization makes your societal standing higher by default then this is privilege. But how do you measure any aspect of this? You used inheritance as the measure. Okay, but what if I decide that I want to use college admittance numbers. What if someone else says I think a person standing in society is based on twitter followers or maybe how small they can reduce their carbon footprint? What if someone says they want to measure it based on the number of children? Which should you chose and which should you not chose? Should everyone be involved in deciding this? Who should be involved and who shouldn't be? You state the factor is measurable and it definitely is, but the value of this measure changes depending on how you want to measure it. So if the value of the measure changes then so too does the final outcome of the equation. I don't doubt that you can put it into an equation (which honestly has no bearing on whether a factor should be included or not) but the outcome of whatever equation you decided to put this factor into changes depending on how you decide to measure the factor.
@philliplopez22315 жыл бұрын
@Juliana Silva touche...I should have been more specific. Male is measurable. However, for that to a useful factor in her mathematical model that Male measurement would have to be measured in relation to some type of innequity let me explain...simply counting approximately 3 billion males on the planet doesnt help mathematically prove innequity. Counting males at 85 percent of the homeless population does begin to establish correlation. So if we were looking at specific innequity (say income disparity) then those factors could be measured by annual income and shown as statistical probabilities. Then you have the beginnings of a model. The bigger issue is basic scientific method. If we use the income inequality issue as an example then we have to ask if being Male makes me rich? In my case no. So point disproven. If we are asking if being Male gives a statistical probability of making more than the national average annual income then perhaps. My point being that the ability to determine Male, female, black, white, etc, does not actually measure any innequity or give us a value to work with. For that we have to define our mathematical model much more specifically and begin applying real values. Even then we will be able to produce mathematical probabilities that give us much more evidence of correlation rather than causation. That might be useful however if we can use that to identify more specific causes. Hope that helps.
@violet-trash5 жыл бұрын
@Juliana Silva How high on the moral spectrum would you place potatoes?
@grahamjonathan7625 жыл бұрын
To all the mathematicians who came up with the concept of zero.. Thanks for nothing.
@4G125 жыл бұрын
Good one. 🤣👍
@elle69685 жыл бұрын
well done. comment of the week. I concede graciously. see you next time x
@solvingpolitics31725 жыл бұрын
Graham Jonathan Those that can’t do....teach.
@kaykay15705 жыл бұрын
Oh r u offfended hahahah sad
@GodsAutobiography5 жыл бұрын
@@kaykay1570 r/whoosh and like... badly XD
@johnbuckner28285 жыл бұрын
Intersectional Minecraft Platonism IMP building a better world.
@quitschi99545 жыл бұрын
I unfortunately fail to see how ordering these categories into a cube like shape helps with anything concerning social privilege.
@Zerobob265 жыл бұрын
Precisely. There is no direct link between factors of 30 and factors of privilege. Arranging numbers into a 3D cube shape doesn't create an abstract model that can be applied to any situation.
@zhezheplays76203 жыл бұрын
She's using basic set theory. Some people have privilege {a,b,c}, and some people have privilege {a,b}, which is less than {a,b,c}, but perhaps not directly comparable to having {b,c} and so on.
@tylerpoppy80955 жыл бұрын
By abstract mathematics she means a way of making a list of all combinations and showing how you can remove one element at time. There is nothing abstract about saying how many ways can I make lists with A, B, C, D. Well I can start with all 4 and get {A,B, C, D}. Then I can go to three {A, B, C}, {A, C, D}, {A, B, D}, {B, C, D}. Then to two {A, B}, {A, C}, {A, D}, {B, C}, {B, D}, {C,D}. And finally end with 1 {A}, {B}, {C}, {D}. I must be an abstract mathematician! Anyone can do this with any amount of letters, or "privilege", or names of people they know, or tree species or however you want to categorize something. Just make a list and each time reduce the number of whatever you are categorizing by one and continue on making a list. This is not abstract mathematics by any stretch of the imagination. TLDR: She made a list of combinations and stumbled upon the idea that you can reduce the number of elements in a list on at a time.
@cartoladasilva48925 жыл бұрын
Perfect.
@GodsAutobiography5 жыл бұрын
And she demonstrated a utility for that practice... What's your point?
@tylerpoppy80955 жыл бұрын
@@GodsAutobiography My point being that she demonstrated the use of a list and this, in my opinion, did not warrant a TEDx talk. Regardless of ones opinion on the merits of this talk, she did not demonstrate anything new. All she demonstrated is that our basis for categorizing/listing things, in this case privilege, shows up in mathematics. This shouldn't be a surprise or even novel in any circle of thought. I find it disingenuous to say abstract mathematics can help us look at privilege differently, when the abstract mathematics she employs are lists. We have been categorizing things since humans have been on the planet.
@GodsAutobiography5 жыл бұрын
@@tylerpoppy8095 I think you may be making an overestimating in favor of common intellect. This is seemingly common knowledge to you and I (and many others I'm sure) but there are many who may benefit from this. What she said is rather anti-left as far as current trends. She presented to them, in a way they might be willing to listen, that group identity can be broken down and that general casting is inneficiet.
@tylerpoppy80955 жыл бұрын
@@GodsAutobiography I do agree that I am could be making an overestimate of common intellect. However, in my opinion equating this type of list making with abstract mathematics (which has the connotation of being an "intelligent field" of study) was done in attempts to give the actual point of her talk more credence that it deserves. I just feel the use of mathematics as a basis for her argument is disingenuous and was done to make it seem like her reasoning is completely objective. Nevertheless, I do agree that her method of presenting this topic in this way could encourage more discussion on this topic. Thank you for point this out :)
@mrdictator70305 жыл бұрын
Press F to pay respects to logic which died during the filming of this... whatever it is...
@JBerg-uz5gn5 жыл бұрын
The logic was okay, but her axioms are debatable, I guess
@SquidKing5 жыл бұрын
Strength in unity!
@ranbymonkeys23845 жыл бұрын
Modus Tollens haha
@cholten995 жыл бұрын
I believe that privilege is real. I don't believe that dividing and sub-dividing groups and discussing who is more-or-less privileged than someone else achieves anything more than increased divisiveness. Should society focus on improving attitudes towards certain groups and the way many in them are forced to live their lives? Absolutely. This kind of looking inwards doesn't help - effort is better spent reaching out and helping real people.
@Amandanumnum5 жыл бұрын
David Durant in order to reach out and help you need to identify the problem first
@xtop238 ай бұрын
@@AmandanumnumThat’s just it. At the beginning of her lecture, she puts rich, white, men, as the apex of privilege. As if that’s just common knowledge and without debate. Well geez, thanks Eugenia for clearing all that up for us. Everything after that is based upon that assumption. It’s social science masquerading as hard science….and it’s complete bollox.
@timherald45165 жыл бұрын
The sooner we get over the fact that equality is not the benchmark for society the better. Free or equal. You will never get both.
@cartoladasilva48925 жыл бұрын
Some persons can be alike but never equal.
@oliverlaw025 жыл бұрын
Which country/society has its benchmark set in inequality? Israel?
@BOTJonathan5 жыл бұрын
To actually increase empathy, realize that everyone struggles and treat everyone with respect, regardless of their privilege.
@GodsAutobiography5 жыл бұрын
This! Doesn't imply that privilege doesn't exist, as it certainly does. It's just that it typically doesn't matter, nor should it. Life is hard for everyone, as it should be.
@alaskaoalaska5 жыл бұрын
What if it's not an increase in empathy that's needed. What if it's ethnic genocide?
@GodsAutobiography5 жыл бұрын
@@alaskaoalaska that's a difficult solution to rationalize.
@alaskaoalaska5 жыл бұрын
@@GodsAutobiography On the contrary, it's brutally simple.
@GodsAutobiography5 жыл бұрын
@@alaskaoalaska please explain
@HaseoOkami5 жыл бұрын
I agree with her message at the end. In the end, math is just a tool. We can choose to use to help each other, we can choose to use it to help ourselves, or we can choose to not use it at all and laugh manically in the void. Either way... fun talk.
@grahamjonathan7625 жыл бұрын
if i had 50p for every maths test i failed, i'd now have £2.30
@samspiano70705 жыл бұрын
The only way I'd be able to calculate how many times you've failed is if I didn't fail myself
@utubecomtw135 жыл бұрын
if i had $1 for every maths test i failed, i'd now have 11.7 Japanese Yen, with half and 4 Apples in my basket
@grahamjonathan7625 жыл бұрын
@@utubecomtw13 Hahaha
@grahamjonathan7625 жыл бұрын
@@samspiano7070 Maths, the only place where you can buy 90 apples and not look weird
@welkinator5 жыл бұрын
"That they are the most hard done-by person in the conversation" I LOVE that phrase!
@dominikm.89905 жыл бұрын
Up until 5:05 it's quite neat, after that I was like "Ah, Social Justice, you sneaky snake... trying to sneak around masked as Maths."
@lk293925 жыл бұрын
Herein lies the fundamental problem with intersectionality. A person can be categorized into an infinite number of categories that define them and furthermore their "relative privilege" in a given category and the relative contribution of each category defining them to their overall "privilege" would be seen as different by different people. This gets infinitely complicated and subjective instantly. It is completely untenable especially from a 'mathematical' perspective. The only logical deduction is that a person is collectively made of essentially an infinite number of categories and experiences unique to them and therefore MUST be held accountable/treated/categorized on their INDIVIDUAL merit alone. Any type of group identity defining/characterizing an individual based on subjective levels of privilege is BS. I will NEVER be convinced otherwise of this. As long as liberals tote this line they will NEVER get my vote. Post modernist liberals don't believe in reason though, only power. Sad and toxic- look at when this type of thing has been done in the past - some of humankinds darkest horrors can be found there.
@gabri_cheesellamasneeze90064 жыл бұрын
The fact that you will "never be convinced otherwise" is sad and betrays the idea of having debates. I respect your opinion and I like having fluidity in mine
@lk293923 жыл бұрын
@@gabri_cheesellamasneeze9006 Okay, then let's debate the merits of murdering an innocent child then. Maybe I can be convinced that is okay with the proper debate points as long as my mind is open to the possibility of both views being valid and possibly acceptable. Intersectionality is irrational, disgusting and only a few steps away from genocide
@gabri_cheesellamasneeze90063 жыл бұрын
@@lk29392 I'm open to having a respectful debate but can you specify how the murder of children relates to intersectionality? Let's get definitions on the table first because I don't think we view this word in the same context.
@lk293923 жыл бұрын
Gabri_cheesellamasneeze they aren’t related in topic. My point is not every position that has two+ possible sides is reasonably up for debate. Much like there is overwhelming evidence that the earth is round and not flat, there is overwhelming evidence against intersectionality being based in factual basis relative to facts discrediting it. My strong belief is debate is meaningless in both instances due to overwhelming facts on one side. Feel free to hit me with all the facts you want that prove the theory of intersectionality though. Facts not feelings please.
@natewatl94235 жыл бұрын
So the diagram of an empty cube is very abstract. QED
@zane621353 жыл бұрын
I think category theory is interesting as a mathematical subject, but my issue with her talk is that she draws conclusions by assigning arbitrary statements to each vertex. For example if the dominant social theory was that Jewish people have all a lot of this nebulous quantity called "privilege" that needs to be "dealt with", you could then assign each vertex with qualities relating to being Jewish and not Jewish and claim that this interconnection of concepts demonstrates mathematically the legitimacy of your theory. Obviously this is complete nonsense - this is the same fallacy that she has committed - presupposing arbitrary ideas to assign to each vertex, ideas that she happens to agree with. Who gets to decide what the concepts are at each vertex? Whatever happens to be fashionable? What about the 1,000,000 other factors that play into life?
@r_mclovin3 жыл бұрын
I'm a math student and I read her book. I loved (most of) it! However, this talk is not really good because the link between abstract mathematics and the real world isn't shown clearly. The audience will still think "what the heck does this cube have to do with the real world?". There are numerous examples suitable for showing the link, she chose a bad one. This is a pity, because now people think even more that mathematicians are creatures living in a world far away from reality... Her book does a better job. Read it (carefully).
@117DJP5 жыл бұрын
Anyone know why this channel is getting swamped with TEDx talks? TEDx has its own channel right?
@GSPV335 жыл бұрын
Because people in bullshit grievance studies are leveraging "you're a bigot if you don't hire us!" to force themselves into positions of power.
@WistrelChianti Жыл бұрын
In short "everyone is someone else's Dan" (where Dan is someone you consider to be awesome and aspire tp be like)
@jAujAl15 жыл бұрын
If as an Asian person, Eugenia Cheng knows and feels she has less privilege than white people, then how come Asian men and women earn respectively more than white men and women on average? Straight cis white men don't just feel disenfranchised because of Eugenia Cheng's rightful observation that intersectionality deflects wealth as the main factor of privilege, but also because of her wrongful assumption that white and male are an absolutely positive factor in the privilege "hypercube". In fact, non white people can be more privileged than white people, the average Asian earnings are a proof of that. Also, men can do worse on other factors than women, like in college degrees or suicide rates. The reason cis straight white men feel disenfranchised isn't just because privilege comes from different factors, it's because privilegeS are multiple and not absolute. You cannot just put everyone on a one dimension axis and claim they have absolutely more privilege than other. Some will have more privilege in an area, other will have more in another.
@hgggjgtf72045 жыл бұрын
You don't have to shout
@dissbiscuit81275 жыл бұрын
i read all the serious comments above, some i agreed, some not, yours i just laughed x) nice one
@dcterr1 Жыл бұрын
Eugenia has managed to create a cube of clarity out of a ball of confusion!
@krissp8712 Жыл бұрын
She's frozen a messy puddle of water into a crystal clear icecube! 🧊
@jokester51305 жыл бұрын
So sick of seeing identity politics taking over Ted. Unsubbed.
@aleka..5 жыл бұрын
@Matt M guess some of you did get the *fact* that rich white male *is* identity ( identity politics - and when they are dominant in politics, like it's the situation _their needs/wishes_ get to be satisfied first/disproportionately) Kids are interested in social sciences, too. Why would this turn anyone away? That statment is baseless.
@ForAnAngel5 жыл бұрын
The idea that people need to understand others better offends you?
@jokester51305 жыл бұрын
9:44 is just straight up racism btw. There's nothing to be gained from this talk except perpetuating stereotypes.
@cartoladasilva48925 жыл бұрын
Me to. I'm out of here.
@tylerpoppy80955 жыл бұрын
@@ForAnAngel Understand others better how? So when meeting a new person, I should go up to them and say, "You are in this category of people so your privilege level is ... calculating ... beneath mine but above ... calculating ... my friends. So, since you are in this privilege level I know - insert information you know (whether or not its stereotypical or correct) about whatever race or religion this person is - about you." How does this make me know the person better? I am now entering a conversation with someone I don’t know anything about with a bunch of preconceived notions about them simply because I know their categorization and hence their privilege level. What if I accidentally mis-categorize them? Do I have to completely reassess my opinion on this person? The crux of the situation here is should I go into a conversation with a complete stranger with an opinion already formed based on things they have no control over (like skin colour and wealth) or should I let my opinion be informed by things this person has control over instead?
@ramkumarr17255 ай бұрын
Just glanced through your books. May buy it
@Hugo-pj4bm5 жыл бұрын
>"I know and I feel that, as an Asian person, I am less privileged than white people" >because I KNOW and FEEL >'mathematician'
@branecollision5 жыл бұрын
Consider doing these sorts of calculations when you have a large number of factors. Consider the amount of factors that impact a person's place in the social hierarchy (read as privilege). The geometry of the diagrams needed to calculate such complex systems would have too many dimensions to intuitively calculate, even for a mathematical genius. Not to mention, the placement of the vertices is based on assumptions that could be debated and are constantly changing with the passage of time. This model yields nothing of relevance to our understanding of mathematics or the world we inhabit. It seems the purpose of this model is to pretend that grievance studies has an element of rigor to it. Ivory tower academics wanting to feel justified in their privileged positions so they talk down to minorities and the poor as if we're helpless.
@wonderpope5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with your analysis. This talk seemed contrived on many levels to me, hence the loudness of in her voice (weak argument -> speak louder)
@xtop238 ай бұрын
That was an excellent summary and I completely agree. It’s the perversion of a hard science to try and lend legitimacy to a largely contextual and perceptual problem better addressed by philosophy and other similar social sciences.
@jacquelineleonte895 жыл бұрын
"I cannot see numbers walking on streets" like my math teacher said once, but after this speech, I have a good example to explain why I do ❤ math.
@Zerobob265 жыл бұрын
There is no direct link between factors of 30 and factors of privilege. Arranging numbers into a 3D cube shape doesn't create an abstract model that can be applied to any situation. This is utter nonsense!
@pianistleuwu5 жыл бұрын
Unbelieveable
@delphi2020025 жыл бұрын
she forgot to add in affirmative action
@Rickbearcat5 жыл бұрын
Inequality in some areas is a very desirable thing. Most people do not realize this or understand it. But it is true, nonetheless.
@dcterr1 Жыл бұрын
You need to be very careful when you talk about inequality, especially as being a good thing! Of course we're not all equal in every way, such as good looks, intelligence, fitness, and charisma, but I think every human deserves equal rights and equality under the law, and I will uphold these values as long as I'm alive!
@brendarua015 жыл бұрын
Bayes works for me on the whole
@684tranminhtuan2 жыл бұрын
The scientific talk moves from objective truth to subjective ideas, and that is when it has lost its values and become unscientific.
@xtop238 ай бұрын
Exactly
@andrasbraten24755 жыл бұрын
I read: An unexpected tool for understanding inequality: Eugenia
@dcterr1 Жыл бұрын
I have a PhD in algebraic number theory, so I know a lot of abstract math, but I never understood or appreciated category theory before, which is highly abstract in-and-of itself. For me, I don't really get most abstract mathematical concepts until I see them applied to something more down to earth, which Eugenia has managed to do quite well here! I never imagined high level mathematical concepts such as category theory could be applied to social issues, which I think Eugenia has succeeded in doing here! Excellent speech!
@joebloggsgogglebox Жыл бұрын
If you want to getter a better understanding of social issues then a far better way is to get out of the academic bubble and spend a bit more time in the "real" world, e.g. meeting and socialising with other people of different races, social classes, IQ levels, etc. and studying statistics about the real world. This takes time, but gives you a much better understanding than this rather naive, uninformative and frankly dangerous presentation by Eugenia. Why do I say dangerous? Because it seems to emphasize a very course grained, unmeasured and stereotypical viewpoint which doesn't reflect the nuances, complexities and variation among real people. Furthermore "priviledge" means different things to different people; she might think of herself as priviledged because of her education and the things that gives her access to, whereas others might see her life as boring and restricted.
@dcterr1 Жыл бұрын
@@joebloggsgogglebox I appreciate your opinions, but I think you're being too harsh on intellectuals such as Eugenia. Although I agree that we all need some "street smarts" as well as immersion in the "real world", I think a big part of the problem is that many of these "real world" people you're talking about, especially here in the good old USA, are highly ignorant and a huge part of the problem Eugenia is describing here! Perhaps I'm a bit of an intellectual snob, but as I see it, the quality of education here in the USA has dropped tremendously during the past 50 years or so, and its replacement with ignorance is a huge contributing factor to social issues.
@joebloggsgogglebox Жыл бұрын
@@dcterr1 I don't think many of the type of people you're talking about (ignorant people) will be watching this video.
@dcterr1 Жыл бұрын
@@joebloggsgogglebox I agree. I think it's sad that most educated people who have a lot of intelligent things to say about what's wrong with our society are preaching to the choir.
@justgivemethetruth Жыл бұрын
This was interesting, but I don't think she made her point. She took stuff that we .. or most of us ... already know, and just displayed it in a new interesting way. But, ABSTRACTLY, did she give us any tools to look at a situation and parse it any better? I didn't see that.
@affiliateweapons5 ай бұрын
mind blown after 25 years
@saulijamsa61654 жыл бұрын
What happens if you take four privileges instead of three? Will it make a 4-D cube? I guess 1 is still the bottom corner, and above it 2, 3, 5, and 7. What next? At the top there should be 210? What are the layers before that?
@dcterr1 Жыл бұрын
There are obviously many more that three important traits to humanity - in fact, possibly infinitely many, so Eugenia's cube is a vastly oversimplified picture of the reality of our society, but it's a start and I think it's a very good model!
@dcterr1 Жыл бұрын
Is it really fair to reduce any individual to a finite list of social categories? This reminds me of a scene from the Woody Allen film Annie Hall, in which he reduces a woman he just meets into a long list of categories and she responds positively by saying, "That was wonderful! I love being reduced to an intellectual and social stereotype!"
@Valient65 жыл бұрын
Inequality is a fictitious paradigm that establishes a reason to penalize the greatest achievers and allow people with less ability and ingenuity to compete in a civilized world. Inequality is the understanding that some people are not as skilled as others. Giving people an unfair advantage over others is not equality. It is the dumbing down of progress.
@omowhanre5 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha...I see ALOT of hurt feelings over a talk that is supposedly meaningless. Fragility is real.
@Makiaveli015 жыл бұрын
Valient Six there is inequality that exists through out all of society
@Valient65 жыл бұрын
@@Makiaveli01 you make your own net worth. Nobody is stopping you from formulating a company. You need to get smart and save money. That's not privilege. That's hard work. And you would rather cry than work.
@Valient65 жыл бұрын
@@omowhanre don't use your head scarf privilege over here. It has no effect on this space.
@vargonian5 жыл бұрын
It seems like an oversimplification to measure privilege as a raw number, “better than” or “worse than”, when there are different privileges afforded to different groups.
@el.k97765 жыл бұрын
what a nice strategy
@violet-trash5 жыл бұрын
5:09 This is where it happens, in case anyone is wondering.
@Hugo-pj4bm5 жыл бұрын
Everybody is laughing until they found out she was serious
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl69985 жыл бұрын
Increased the speed to x1.75.
@danielsuarez37935 жыл бұрын
thank you.
@abigails.98415 жыл бұрын
Speed x2 + subtitles works great too.
@trshams5753 жыл бұрын
Einstein said “make it simple but not simpler”
@trshams5753 жыл бұрын
She said some people are more privileged sometimes. The same less privileged some other times. Can abstract math explain the causative factors.
@celestialcircledance5 жыл бұрын
Only made sense to me when variables replaced the numbers and letters . I guess it could be a cute analogy for math geeks but I almost gave up .
@AdiPrimandaGinting5 жыл бұрын
You should remember that there is nothing wrong for being a white man
@omowhanre5 жыл бұрын
Yes, look in the mirror and repeat this affirmation. Hahahaha...I see ALOT of hurt feelings over a talk that is supposedly meaningless. Fragility is real.
@RonnieD19705 жыл бұрын
@@omowhanre any evidence to support your claim?
@LisaNarozhnykh5 жыл бұрын
Nobody ever really said it wasn't, or at least not at the same scale as this was said about other groups of people.
@GodsAutobiography5 жыл бұрын
@@omowhanre did you look at his icon? Doesn't look white to me bruv... Ironically, you seem to be the fragile one here.
@thelasteventhorizon5 жыл бұрын
Fatima Muhammed #failedsohard
@user-st1sb7mf6v5 жыл бұрын
Nice try! Using mathematics to make something exceptionally based on your thoughts and ideas seem true and real!
@explorerendeavour30095 жыл бұрын
Pure mathematics is pure. It doesn't matter whether mathematics relates to real life or not in its own beauty. Arithmetic has its connection with our daily life. But we don't need to relate maths to life this way. I don't feel it helps to understand or learn maths.
@lowqualityshitposts88605 жыл бұрын
that's very stereotypical
@avocadotoast63693 жыл бұрын
I will rejoice the day we decide to wipe out the social justice pandemic.
@LuxiBelle5 жыл бұрын
This is a great talk. It is actually a Sokalian inspired piece that is a big troll, just like Nobel Prize winning comedian Samuel H Yde did on Tedx
@claytonwatkins20845 жыл бұрын
Worst, stereotyping, racist, and sexist 'talk' I have ever heard. Abstract is the key word, everything she said is a twisting of her perceptions and biases with Zero factual data to back up any of it.
@sidremus5 жыл бұрын
you must be one of the angry ones she was talking about.
@Theraot5 жыл бұрын
Skewed? That is not abstract math anymore. Go back a couple steps... yes it is a cube! Each privilege is a dimension. I think this works better as linear algebra than abstract math. The skewing means that we need a matrix transformation to... oh, shoot, now I can't do it my head.
@hwoarang26925 жыл бұрын
I subscribed to this channel to hear smart,unknown(to me) people sharing their amazing thoughts and ideas of how to make ourselves and our world better,not some useless feminist/political correct crap which is already everywhere,wherever you look..
@aSHTEBALA5 жыл бұрын
Is this coming in the test?
@ggcvhyhhg86885 жыл бұрын
I wonder if maths models can generally represent social problem? Or let's just talk about her model and the privilege problem only. She just used 1 example to show that. Maybe more examples for different social problems needed to proof.
@transon66555 жыл бұрын
Life is unair, deal with it.
@BearBig705 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@harshjaiswal23675 жыл бұрын
Gates
@solvingpolitics31725 жыл бұрын
Tran Son where you start in life is by chance, where you end up in life is by choice!
@transon66555 жыл бұрын
Solving Politics good one
@DIVAD2915 жыл бұрын
I feel like when you say "deal with it" what you really mean is "ignore that problem".
@jamieg24275 жыл бұрын
It's wonderful how math gives us a way of explicitly stating these ideas. This was a brilliant framing.
@cartoladasilva48925 жыл бұрын
That's so groce.
@nicolasgmi22935 жыл бұрын
Great !!
@diiman35 жыл бұрын
Funny how everyone that commented below that says "it's okay to be white" and " There is nothing wrong with been white" is white. You watch this video and somehow all you can take out of it is an attack on your "whiteness" that's why you feel the need to defend it. You are right, it is in fact, okay to be White, Black, or Asian. It is okay to be any colour or race. I mean you can't change the colour of your skin so you must accept it and be happy. You should also accept the history behind your whiteness, the historical damage, slavery and white privilege that has put whites in the position they occupy today. You must also accept that Racism, a direct result of your perceived whiteness was designed to put every other person considered “Not White” below you and lock Blacks at the bottom. Accepting all the above will force you to read books and studies on racism, white supremacy, white privilege and the role “whites” played and still play in oppressing minorities and people of colour. It will help you understand that when you hear a ted talk like this, attack on your “WHITENESS” should be the least of your worries.
@xtop238 ай бұрын
Kendi? Is that you? Keep playing the victim. I’m sure it’s served you well. In spite of the white man doing everything to hinder you. 👍
@DIVAD2915 жыл бұрын
How do you understand inequalities? by presuposing that being white and male are privileges. cool cool very maths. Understanding inequalities Starts with figuring out what the variables are and then the more nuanced interactions between those variables becomes relevent. Just to be clear im fine with the logic...I use the same logic constantly and I believe everyone should do the same. My point is that it was out of place to give your opinion considering you didn't defend it at all. Let people plug in their own interpretations on the subjective points so your subjectivity doesn't influence the understanding of the logic underneath.
@omowhanre5 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha...I see ALOT of hurt feelings over a talk that is supposedly meaningless. Fragility is real.
@GSPV335 жыл бұрын
@@omowhanre You keep saying this, but it has no context. Who says this is meaningless? It's an example of the systemic creep of anti-white and anti-male racism & sexism, particularly in academia. It's a serious issue. Of course we're upset. You laughing at people of a certain race for being upset at being targeted simply makes you like the nazis -- you think certain racism is "righteous" because you consider the targets to be evil, so you laugh at the victims as they defend themselves.
@ivanandreevich85685 жыл бұрын
Why is she angry and almost yelling from the get go?
@biscottone33575 жыл бұрын
My QI reduced after that
@Tshego20002 жыл бұрын
Reading beyond infinity right now
@mrseanpaul815 жыл бұрын
Great presentation!
@idontknow-ms8mc5 жыл бұрын
Incredible talk. Loved it. And Eugenia Cheng is such a great writer and teacher. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@sandeep-zi8su5 жыл бұрын
Incredible speech !! Love it ❤
@IuliusPsicofactum5 жыл бұрын
Unsubscribed as well. TEDx was a very bad idea. TED was only good when it was about serious real stuff.
@TheLivirus5 жыл бұрын
Good luck with your information bubble!
@wrcz3 жыл бұрын
I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE!!! :O
@mmccggiillll5 жыл бұрын
The disgusting thing isn't that she's up there saying her point of view, it's that somebody as TED heard this point of view pitched and then let her go up to speak this tripe. Are they going to get some junkie high on acid next saying the sky is green?
@hawaiian5295 жыл бұрын
There is no inequality in the US if you work hard you make good money
@eddieschneider19475 жыл бұрын
all B....sh cuz there is nothing wrong with being privileged as it is a state of good.
@aleka..5 жыл бұрын
err, concept of privilege is more about understanding how others are underprivileged, marginalised, just by some characteristics they didn't chose (race, gender, dis/abilities, how rich is family you're born into, etc)
@sivansharma50275 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with being privileged, but the issues that privileged people face are laughable to those who do not have those privileges. For example, you might complain about traffic on your way to work, a black person might complain about not being able to get a good paying job. Just walking down the street, your biggest concern might be if someone will mug you, for a women it might be if someone might rape them, beat them, murder them and mug them.
@Valient65 жыл бұрын
@@aleka.. privilege is not defined by race. It is by circumstances. There are black rich people and their children will be rich. The number of those privilged only shows the true advantages associated with that particular races culture and reluctance to fight to the top. You only state obvious facts that prove one thing. Privilege and higher learning are associated with particular ethnicities. Asian women earn more than white women in American economic averages. This is a cultural advantage inherited. Not a racial bias based on systematic racism.
@Valient65 жыл бұрын
@@sivansharma5027 there are successful blacks in all industries. It is a personal achievement. Not a racial bias.
@cartoladasilva48925 жыл бұрын
@@Valient6 George Soros funds ted, obvious.
@welkinator5 жыл бұрын
Her next presentation will be the math of Social Justice Warriors - where do you think Cheng might fit in?
@transon66555 жыл бұрын
where are asian privilege ?
@violet-trash5 жыл бұрын
Now I understand why there are so many more females in prison, dying young, on the streets and doing manual labor.
@aftertalks85153 жыл бұрын
Such a great talk!
@afifassihab79535 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with this girl. 1. I am also Asian, but I don't agree that everything wrong should blame white people. 2. I don't agree that women and men still have huge differences. I think we already make a lot of progress about equality. The number maybe not 100% equal, but we have made a lot of improvement from time to time.
@trshams5753 жыл бұрын
One cannot just belong to any family other than ones own. That is also in the way really it is. This is the uniqueness and special nature of everybody’s belonging reality. Everybody knows it. This sense of belonging is special and is essential for feeling happily fulfilling and lifelong worthwhileness.
@YullyMusic8 ай бұрын
💯🙏🖤
@magic-maro5 жыл бұрын
it's all language and the connections and borders we make within
@tom1b1b85 жыл бұрын
How do we factor into your equation 'smart privilege', 'attraction' or 'beauty' privilege', 'tallness' or 'height' privilege', 'athletic privilege' or '2 parent's privilege'. How do we factor in 'Asian' privilege, since the average Asian in the USA is the richest person?? Perhaps we could just use that grey matter between our ears to navigate this 'confusing world' as you put it. I think perhaps we would be much better off without your tool.
@lk293925 жыл бұрын
Herein lies the fundamental problem with intersectionality. A person can be categorized into an infinite number of categories that define them and furthermore their "relative privilege" in each and the "relative importance of the privileges" would be seen as different by different people. The only logical conclusion is that a person is collectively made of these infinite number of categories and experiences and therefore MUST be held accountable/treated/categorized on their INDIVIDUAL merit alone. Any type of group identity defining/characterizing them is BS. I will NEVER be convinced otherwise of this.
@ThatPunkBrent5 жыл бұрын
what an excellent video. thank you.
@shaminoranger85885 жыл бұрын
Here's a more useful mathematical transformation. Multiply intersectionality by zero to figure out how useful it is to society at large. Instead, treat each person as a unique individual and delete the horrible prejudices from your mind that intersectional thinking causes.
@midnightcat61165 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Thank you for sharing this. As we all know, society (especially western society) is devoid of empathy & was established through domination through violence. I understand it is difficult for many people of privilege and non-privilege to swallow as it can be very painful to know you are hated for just being. For people floating in the center of the spectrum, i understand why it would lead to frustration towards those above and resentment towards those below. It’s easier to not face the realities of life in order to function in this cruel world. At the end of the day, we’re all trying to get through this life, as best as we can, with the cards that have been dealt to us. Hopefully we all can acknowledge & accept that we are not all equal in society’s eyes, but that we can strive to find ways to live with self-awareness so that we can make choices to make our lives & the lives of our friends and neighbors, a little bit more palatable. How can we live and let live? Is this even possible?
@ranbymonkeys23845 жыл бұрын
The harder I work the more privileged I get. How are you not given the same opportunity as white people. When I multiply anything times zero I always get a whiner with their hand out. What percentage of this country is Asian, and what percentage of Asians are in poverty? I think you'll be surprised.
@TheLivirus5 жыл бұрын
Life is a complex mess of countless chaotic variables of nature and nurture. Let's stop assuming we know the lived experience of others based on a few vague characteristics.
@JamesSmith-gk8sz10 ай бұрын
Another brilliant mind wasting her amazing efforts on the liberal agenda. How you can believe so wholeheartedly in the objective realities of mathematics and then speak as if gender is subjective....now that's abstract.
@ju_santos5 жыл бұрын
Excellent tool. ty
@krishnamohan23515 жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like she's the Elizabeth Holmes of abstract mathematics?
@zhezheplays76203 жыл бұрын
She's not though. Holmes was an undergrad dropout, Dr. Eugenia Chang has a PhD from Cambridge and was a tenured professor. If you understood anything about the way universities work, you'd know that this is something you can't do without being recognized as one of the top experts in the world in your field. You're lucky she's chosen to leave a job where she had almost *permanent job security* to dedicate her enormous talents to educating the public. I'm sorry you don't understand basic set theory?
@xtop238 ай бұрын
@@zhezheplays7620 Yes. Quite. We are all so lucky that she put forth an exceedingly simple theory, by utilizing mathematics, in lieu of simply throwing up a diagram of a tree and saying, “things are connected.” What about this is remotely new? How does it bring us any further along in curing societies ills? The answer is, it doesn’t. And that’s why it’s bollox.
@TonyLinSh5 жыл бұрын
How low can TED go?!
@InfoSopher5 жыл бұрын
I don't even know what to say to this video...
@narendrairvan70895 жыл бұрын
💣💥boom
@GarikTate5 жыл бұрын
More group politics. I understand that some people have advantages (after all we have pre-dispositions like intelligence, charisma, and health). But saying that it can all be boiled down to Gender, Economics, and Skin color is kind of 2D and I find very very disturbing.
@Jembonia5 жыл бұрын
I literally only subscribed some days back. Now I realize TED got woke, and I unsubscribe.
@geoffmcclelland26635 жыл бұрын
This doesn't work you can't just change letters to whatever you want without proof. There are some good points but it's a terrible way to try to explain it