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An UPDATE on the PROGRESS of the BYZANTINE TEXT project!

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Dwayne Green

Dwayne Green

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@Miroslaw-rs8ip
@Miroslaw-rs8ip 6 ай бұрын
Please keep us in the loop as I want to support this project financially 👍
@wordmagazine
@wordmagazine 6 ай бұрын
I plan to order a copy when it comes out!
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
that's great! Hope all is well with you guys!
@WFSteury
@WFSteury 5 ай бұрын
Great
@laescrituranopuedeserquebr5529
@laescrituranopuedeserquebr5529 6 ай бұрын
blessings It gives me great joy to know that you are working on such a noble and necessary task! Thank you on behalf of the thousands of Christians around the world who love God's Word in its most accurate form. Cheers in everything. I will pray for the new job. A very good thing is to justify the main readings of the Byzantine text, I also think that mentioning the readings that the patristics collect would be very good. Again, thanks for the video, thanks for this edit and may God bless and help you in everything.
@murrydixon5221
@murrydixon5221 4 ай бұрын
I want one!
@Pastor-Brettbyfaith
@Pastor-Brettbyfaith 6 ай бұрын
I am praying for you brother. I know how much work goes in to translation. God's best to you and your team.
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
We're not doing any translation work. It's strictly formatting and apparatus work. Still a ton of work nonetheless!
@ryrocks9487
@ryrocks9487 4 ай бұрын
I need one!!!
@BrendaBoykin-qz5dj
@BrendaBoykin-qz5dj 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, Pastor Dwayne🌹⭐🌹 Congratulations to you and the team.
@markwardonwords
@markwardonwords 6 ай бұрын
Good job, Dwayne! Shared this on Facebook!
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Mark!
@michaelcolburn8062
@michaelcolburn8062 6 ай бұрын
I am so looking forward to this being available! Please don't reduce the font. Keep it at 11 points for those of us with old eyes. Thanks for your hard work and diligence!
@agapetoi
@agapetoi 6 ай бұрын
So good to hear of your progress … music to so many ears 🎼 🙂! Blessings to you and the whole team! Can hardly wait for the final product! Keep up the excellent work ... δοῦλοι τοῦ Χριστοῦ 😇!
@med4699
@med4699 5 ай бұрын
I find myself watching most of your videos. I look forward to your material
@xblakelfoglex
@xblakelfoglex 6 ай бұрын
When this releases, you guys need to make sure it is put into Logos! I’d love to use it in comparison with the 2005 RP, Scrivener, and Tyndale! Keep us posted on any fundraising! I am sure the larger textually interested community will see this funded in no time 😁
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
We do want to see this in logos... I imagine we'll reach out to them as the project progresses.
@jamessheffield4173
@jamessheffield4173 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this. We need dialog about different models of Biblical Text Criticism. Blessings.
@sexyeur
@sexyeur 6 ай бұрын
Praise God!
@BiblicalStudiesandReviews
@BiblicalStudiesandReviews 6 ай бұрын
Great summary, brother!
@ZelosPhotizo
@ZelosPhotizo 6 ай бұрын
Yep
@scottroberts3431
@scottroberts3431 6 ай бұрын
Sell 1000 - 2000 prior to printing. I would gladly purchase one before printing. I purchased an LSB 6 months before I ever received it.
@IndianaJoe0321
@IndianaJoe0321 6 ай бұрын
Likewise with the LSB ... and I would do so (purchase early) for this one!
@NormanSimonRodriguez
@NormanSimonRodriguez 6 ай бұрын
Re: Funding, have you considered pre-orders?
@d-bo6411
@d-bo6411 Ай бұрын
I'm still on the seat of my pants! I can't wait to buy 10 or 100! 🤓
@nyckmaia
@nyckmaia 6 ай бұрын
Hi, which software are you using to produce this kind of text? If is a Latex document, which Latex packages are you using to create all biblical and critical apparatus details? Is there any free template file of this?
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
We're using LaTex, but it's been heavily modified for our purpose. I'm not sure which version it is.
@ArchangelsBookClub
@ArchangelsBookClub 6 ай бұрын
Hey Dwayne, I remember you speaking about Frankentexts, where multiple textual variants are used in a single verse and you produce a Greek rendering that has never existed in any Greek manuscript. I've been trying to find it in your catalogue, but can't. Can you point me in the right direction?
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
It will be in my interviews with Adam Boyd and Dr. Maurice Robinson. :)
@ArchangelsBookClub
@ArchangelsBookClub 6 ай бұрын
@@Dwayne_Green Thank you. :)
@DefinedFaith
@DefinedFaith 6 ай бұрын
This is really cool, especially with an apparatus like that. I’m curious of some of the choices that might be made as well. Is the philosophy of the appendix to give commentary on variants defending their “Byzantineness,” or defending their authenticity? I’m sure there is quite a bit of overlap in there. I’m curious of the treatment of something like Acts 8:37 as an example.
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
For me, the 'byzantineness' and the authenticity would be essentially the same.
@shirleygoss1988
@shirleygoss1988 6 ай бұрын
It is a very exciting project! I just hope once the Greek is printed, that an English translation of it would be available soon thereafter. I do not speak, or read Greek. I tend to have more trust for an English version based on Byzantine manuscripts.
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
Adam Boyd has already done an English translation. It's called "The Text Critical English New Testament"
@shirleygoss1988
@shirleygoss1988 6 ай бұрын
@@Dwayne_Green I would be interested in obtaining a copy. Is it easily obtainable?
@stevenvalett1231
@stevenvalett1231 6 ай бұрын
Will there be an Greek English version? Pray and hope so. Thank you!
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
Maybe in the future, I dunno. We're currently focused on getting this edition completed.
@gastie1
@gastie1 6 ай бұрын
You mentioned ECM which is obviously still in its early stages. Are you planning on revisiting the footnotes to reflect those choices later down the line?
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
Updating the apparatus for additional editions is not entirely out the question, but right now we're focused on getting this one complete.
@maxwellhufford7115
@maxwellhufford7115 6 ай бұрын
Question: So is it true that all of the manuscripts in the minority text don’t even agree with one another? If so, to what extent? Hoping somebody has insight on this!
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
The extent is difficult because you have to be aware of every variant in every majuscule and papyri... But Scrivener (I believe) checked Vaticanus and Sinaiticus in the Gospels and found 3000 variants in the Gospel between the two. Most of the older manuscripts however, are not usually of one text-type, but are often mixed. You can get a pretty general idea of the extent though, by looking through the apparatus of the latest critical edition. Modern Textual Criticism is beginning to look away from text types as it's becoming very difficult to determine where one text type begins and another ends, with the exception of the Byzantine text.
@maxwellhufford7115
@maxwellhufford7115 6 ай бұрын
@@Dwayne_Green So the question now is, if there are 3,000 variants between vaticanus and sinaiticus, are they translatable variants? Spelling variants? Word order? Or is it possible to pinpoint them? Or are they noticeable?
@troy5659
@troy5659 6 ай бұрын
@@maxwellhufford7115 Grace to you, Have you seen this before? www.prunch.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/What-Difference-Does-it-Make.pdf
@samuelgantt2177
@samuelgantt2177 6 ай бұрын
How about asking people to preorder copies?
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
This is a good idea, but there are some risks to this... If we don't preorder every copy one of us will have to foot the bill, and that could be quiet pricey.
@rossjpurdy
@rossjpurdy 6 ай бұрын
@@Dwayne_Green Put out feelers, poll.
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
@@rossjpurdy let's see...
@Vagueperson
@Vagueperson 3 ай бұрын
Is there an email list for updates?
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 3 ай бұрын
not yet, but we are working on one.
@silviumoraru789
@silviumoraru789 6 ай бұрын
Woooooow !!Where can i buy it? Greetings from Germany
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
Its not available yet, but you'll be able to order online when its ready.
@Pastor-Brettbyfaith
@Pastor-Brettbyfaith 6 ай бұрын
Can I buy a paperback copy?
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
You can get the 2018 edition here: www.amazon.ca/New-Testament-Original-Greek-Byzantine/dp/395776100X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1FZ477ZCUKB7I&keywords=Byzantine+2018&qid=1707346483&sprefix=byzantine+2018%2Caps%2C131&sr=8-1 We only ran a few preview copies for the purpose of QA.
@TommyFan101
@TommyFan101 6 ай бұрын
Which CT editions are listed in the apparatus?
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
We have WH SBL NA27/28 ECM TH, then for the other editions we have PAT, HF, PCK, TR(stephanus) TR(Scrivener) Byzantine Marginal readings. When you see "CT" its a shorthand way of right all the CT editions.
@TommyFan101
@TommyFan101 6 ай бұрын
@@Dwayne_Green what's PAT and PCK? I'm not familiar with those abbreviations.
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
@@TommyFan101 PAT is the Antoniades Patriarchal Edition. PCK is WIlbur Pickerings F35 edition.
@niclasolsson1860
@niclasolsson1860 5 ай бұрын
Yet another disappointingly large edition. Why does everyone seem to want to lug around a brick? And the Anchor Cross edition is out of print...
@01marcelopaulo
@01marcelopaulo 6 ай бұрын
I used to support critic text now I more in massoretic text.
@farmeryaeg
@farmeryaeg 6 ай бұрын
The Jews who denied Jesus kept and compiled those texts for centuries. Maybe don't really on them entirely.
@DTzant
@DTzant 6 ай бұрын
Interesting. But if you can’t read Greek….bummer
@Dwayne_Green
@Dwayne_Green 6 ай бұрын
No way, not Bummer! Learn it :D
@user-sp9zd9dw7c
@user-sp9zd9dw7c 6 ай бұрын
I'm just starting to learn Greek ( that Cringy Erasmian !!). I'll purchase a copy as an incentive to press on in the hopes that eventually, I'll be able to read it.
@DTzant
@DTzant 6 ай бұрын
@@Dwayne_Green what resources do you recommend?
@rossjpurdy
@rossjpurdy 6 ай бұрын
Bunning tries to include the evidence and that is why his text would be interesting. Mitchel is a computer generated text and there is nothing special about that except maybe canons are more consistently applied wherein the NA/UBS text will never be able to do that. Just my take but I have not been interested in the NA/UBS for decades! What value is there in canons that are extraordinarily qualified (besides being irrational) choosing between singular, or obscure readings from corrupt old manuscripts which really have no textual value? This critical text is going to be obsolete in time and the cbgm is going to eclipse it. Maybe include a collation in an appendix but what value is it going to have in the apparatus especially after a few years? Again, just me, I have no interest in and don't believe there is ANY value in the NA/UBS text! Zero! Their apparatus may have value but others have probably done it far better. It should not be given legitimacy nor credence in my opinion. The enterprise was built on a foundation of sand which has already mostly washed away.
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