This makes sense in a way, but the question is: "Have you seen enough for his method to work? Or have you seen too much?" - His method worked on Ahsoka, because he knew Snips better than anyone else. If he appears in your dream, does he know you enough?

@@dherianProfound question. I have cried quite a bit over this episode precisely for the simple truth that Anakin was brutally trying to convey to Ashoka: live or die. There are times when we NEED that spoken bluntness in our lives…but it only works well when the person being blunt is doing so because they LOVE us and know us well. Anakin showing up in a dream of mine being this blunt wouldn’t work so well for me. It was what Ashoka needed though. It was beautiful.

Ayo???

She's returned at the turn of the tide!

I’m really hoping all this leads to a retcon😅 or at the very least an alternate trilogy story

I see wut u did ther.

@@videogameaddict4041 I might be wrong, but I was scrolling through my feed here a day or two ago and thought I saw a video with a title that basically said that this show had done it. 🤷🏻

@@appo9357 I can recall a similar video title too, I didn’t watch the video but I find it hard to see how they retconned it this far 🤔 to me it just seems like they’re avoiding the elephant in the room as best they can but haven’t directly changed said future…we shall see what happens with Thrawns return, maybe it’s the First Order still but lead by Thrawn and not that whiny stitch

I wonder if he knew back than that one day his Rebels story would continue on live action

@@GenerationTech George wanted all the animation stuff to be canon, so I'm sure he knew it might at least be referenced, after all it's hard to say any of it would even see the light of day outside of the cartoons especially after George sold to Disney.

@@TheRealAlpha2 Rebels was entirely disney. I wonder if the ewok show is cannon

@minivan_hobo I like the idea of it not needing deeper exposition in a show, because I like the idea that show writers have the confidence to let a story stand as it’s presented, and that they can trust the audience to figure it out for themselves. Funnily enough, that’s just the way Anakin presented the lesson and how Ahsoka figured it out. As an aside, I also find it frustrating that some people are wanting, needing a scene that shows Ahsoka and Luke talking about their pasts and what her relationship with Anakin was like. To me that would be boring television, and we’ve already seen it before - there’s 7 seasons of a show that explains this very topic better than a scene built to appease the fans ever will. Huyang’s description of Anakin to Hera was perfect: intense.

To me those moments represent the cosmic force in someone's mind.

did her eyes flash red? i thought she was just getting close to the red blade and it reflected in her eyes

You speak with wisdom friend 🙂

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even if so, it is a nice visual play on her having redish eyes @@insertcognomen

@@insertcognomenIt was a bit ambiguous, I believe on purpose.

I think you're spot on! I just realized that it doesn't matter what you have lost, gained or what situation you find yourself in without your permission. It matters who you are.

It matters who and what you chose to be ^^ @@user-cl5vx9em4e

When he says "ive heard that before" this is how i know that it wasnt just a manifestation of the force or just of her subconcious. It really was him. Ahsoka has no idea what went down between Luke and Vader in the final moments of RotJ. So if was just a subconcious menifestaion, then why would he say that? because she was never there, therefore it really was Anakin.

@@Gnarwolf Also, I think Jacen confirmed it to her by saying he heard them fighting. until that point she wasn't sure it was real, that's why she smiled.

What? Man yall are reaching. Anakin shows up. Says I have a lesion to teach you "life or death" (thats the Bible by the way) and then assaults her twice. Oh and he loses twice. All the flashbacks were to teach her the lesion of "live?" He assaults her just so she can say "I choose life." (Bible again) Come on... Seeing Anakin was supper cool and they did it masterfully witch is why it sucked so bad. They made it look so great is the hopes that soyboys would just say "yay Vader, Yay flashing lights, yay light sabers." Why didn't Anakin teach her how to use the force in an effort to find the lost ship? I mean that would be Star Wars. Luke went into the cave to fight his father only to find out it was himself. The meaning was huge, deep and very well written. But no Anakin assaulted Ahsoka so she would come to realize she wanted to live? I mean come on where is the writing? Question.. And Im being serious. Why spend billions on a ring ship with large hyper drives if you can just "Dory talk" and jump in the mouth of a freaking space whale? Stop taking up for this plot convenience BS. Ahsoka admitted she has no clue where she is going with no plan or any way to do anything. But NOOOOOOOOO soyboys will just keep taking up for this garbage writing. Yay flashy lights!!!!!!!

Whats most beautiful is that he didn’t save Ahsoka from dying. Instead, he taught her how to save herself.

I wonder how weird it is for Hayden to play this version of Anakin. He's basically acting a characterization of Anakin from the Clone Wars tv show that is based on his characterization from the movies.

@@Devillinhe seemed comfortable, wouldn’t call it totally seamless but it’s obvious he takes it seriously.

@@Psyfi85 I agree. Though I feel it's less about his acting and actually taking on those... Shifts in persona, as it were. But it's the way Hayden's voice has shifted over the last 20 years. On looks, (Talking outside the light bit of a CGI glow up, which honestly looked way better in the episode over the shot at the end of 4.) he hasn't aged poorly at all. Not as well as Ewan McGregor. But... That man is another Hollywood vampire xD Anyways. I don't know if he did or took up smoking, or just had the unlucky draw. He sound closer to 60 without rasp and harsh wear, than he does 40 something.

@@Meravokas yeah I get you, he’s definitely got the Ralph Macchio gene. And he was a smoker especially prior to and during prequels, not sure if he gave it up though.

@@Meravokaswhat’s funny thouhh huh is I think his jawline looks more like the clone wars version of anakin, and his voice older and deeper sounds a bit more like the clone wars

He perfectly blended elements from the prequels the clone wars and OT Vader seamlessly in one performance. And how natural his choreography is he feels like he's really knows what he's doing and not just acting out a sequence which gives the flair of choreographed fighting while remaining grounded. He's clearly put a lot of work into this performance.

I legit thought it was a matt lanter voice over at first lol. Sounds exactly like him at some points.

Interesting how the dark iside isnt as taboo as it used to be...now that those meddling jedi aren't around to police everyone ;)

Ahsoka needed to confront Vader so Anakin gave her Vader. He needed to tap into his darkness to help his padawan survive.

@@jiffypoo5029 yep, just like Obi-Wan needed it. I used to think Obi-Wan getting it made no sense, but now it feels like a necessity.

pretty sure Obi-wan tapped into love to power up his light side powers. @@theechoproject899

Watching Hayden's portrayal here, I don't just see him interpreting animated Anakin interpreting prequel Anakin. I see Vader, fully formed Anakin who died in his middle age on the Death Star killed by Palpatine to rescue his son. This is redeemed balanced Anakin/Vader. Even the way he speaks is very much a melding of Vader's terse sarcasm and Anakin's more enthusiastic but still tough personality. The way he says "Then you'll die" was pure Vader, for example.

That’s a good point

Ironically i find quite a few clones to be the most unique characters in modern media. To be an individual of significance despite literally being a carbon & dna copy of someone else speaks to me.

Yes I think that's what people mean when they tell their children they are special. That they are worthy of respect and love as human beings. Not that everything should go their way and they're little princes. The latter is teaching entitlement. And that's not what most parents do.

​@@JenniferKokoskicough *Sheldon Cooper* cough

@@JenniferKokoski u should tell the kids that

Yeah she had moxy

Ditto. She delivers her lines with the conviction of a person that is invested in the character. I would have expected that only from from Ashley Eckstein. BZ to Ariana.

She also played young Gamora in Infinity War. She's a very talented young actress. Able to put so much emotion and meaning into her lines. Keep an eye on her for the future. She's only going to get better and better.

@@JenniferKokoskiI knew she looked familiar!

​@@GenerationTechStill love that she was Young Gamora in Infinity War

As soldiers, we often noted "If it wasn't for dark humor we'd have no humor at all."

he's in jumper and he recently did a rom com called little italy i think

Hayden can definitely act, I'd recommend seeing "Shattered Glass." It's based on a real-life journalist (played by him) who is eventually revealed to be making up all the stories he writes for a national magazine. It's like watching a train wreck as his deceptions are revealed, and Hayden does a damn good job. As for his acting in the Prequels, even though I'm fine with his portrayal as Anakin, I can understand why he came off as dull for some people. I think the Clone Wars portrayal of Anakin really saved the character for a lot of people, and I think Hayden could have easily portrayed Anakin more like his animated counterpart (as Ahsoka proved)

​@@Cobra1098Rosario Dawson stars on that movie too!

I'd also been waiting to see some emotive acting from Rosario, and we finally got it at 20:17 - she communicates the weight of 30 years of very complicated feelings without a single word. It's a beautiful thing.

I think a lot of it has to do with the script

Yeah no one wants to think anymore more especially my generation gen z

@@marielawrence468 ugh and yet yall love making fun of us millennials like your generation has become boomerfied lol

rey doesn't represent hope, she's just trying to find out who she is

@@idiocrat3744 yes, in part. But you forget how optimistic she was in _The Last Jedi_ when convincing Luke to train her. "it was a jedi master who was responsible for the training and creation of darth vader." She _immediately_ counters "And it was a Jedi who saved him." She buried Anakin's saber and Leia's saber in the sands of Tatooine and it's a full circle moment for Anakin...I always used to make fun of it, but now I've come to realize, that by burying his saber next to Luke's home, he's in a sense, reunited with his own mother. Tells me she has good foresight and understanding and appreciation for the past. She's almost like a kid again when she gets to Tatooine, in fact. With the way she slides down the sand dunes. And that's what that planet does to all of us as well. Make us feel like a kid first exposed to this franchise. Not to mention she herself put Anakin's saber back together after having a hand in tearing it in two. Tells me she always has a hope of fixing things, of making them better and whole. She's got quite a lot of characterization there. If you look for it. If you pay attention.

As a person who has mental health issues and has had a lot of counseling, I can tell you it's pretty on point. While not as messy as real life (its wrapped up neatly in a nice little plot, reality is not so kind) the whole episode is about trauma. Ignoring or forgetting it is never a solution (and usually impossible anyway), so how do you move forward and live with it. This whole episode is the answer for how Ahsoka does that. Also, sidenote the Media literacy thing has been a problem for a while, so much of high-level film making is "show don't tell" but if you do that these days a large portion of your audiences misses the body language or tone and goes "I don't get it". Go the other way and just say it to the audience and they get mad about bad writing. It's a bit of a "lose lose" scenario. Not really defending bad writing or Star Wars in general here. Just saying after the strike if I was a writer on a high concept show or movie, I would be pulling my hair out.

Great remark, my son said something similar, he also wondered why Hera could hear it, too. We essentially agreed that Jacen projected what he heard into her mind, because the alternative would be a bit silly. Hera being force sensitive makes sense, as her talent as a pilot was completely outlandish for her time, but making everyone even a bit force sensitive cheapens the deal a lot. What I loved was Carson´s reaction to Jacen "having powers", he´s like... "Whatever, I´ve seen so many weird things recently..." Remember: This man is a veteran who knew the legend of Luke Skywalker and has met Baby Yoda (I will never not call him that!). He knows he´s in over his head, but he does what he can.

@@dherian Yeah Teva's reaction was priceless. He's quickly becoming one of my favorite recurring secondary sharacters, I hope they do more with him in the future, and make him more prominent than just being "X-Wing guy" (I think they've set themselves up to do so with Mando S3).

@@andyb1653I squealed when I saw Teva in the last episode! I love how he is, in a sense, a regular soldier getting to be a part of the larger story as it is developing. He’s a moral guy attempting to make the best decisions when complicated situations come his way. Teva’s been in every show so far (except Andor). He feels like he represents us (the SW multi-generational audience). He’s not a fancy force user, war hero or some high influence political person. He’s a normal someone who signed up to sacrifice and work to help make the galaxy a better place for people who suffered under the Empire’s rule. Teva is us in live action form and it’s fun to see this universe from his perspective!

It would have been better if Jace had touched Hera's hand before she could here it.

Anakin was never at the siege of mandalor which is why he said “I don’t remember this battle”

Is it bad this made me laugh?

@@GeminiKnight76 if it's bad it's my fault for making the joke in the first place lol

I see a lot of people, thinking that balance means wielding both light and dark. But even in the Mortis arc, I don’t believe the father was controlling both. Balance means removing the darkness from the light. Or at least that’s what Lucas has indicated when he created the original trilogy. I always saw the father fighting against the sun to sort to corrupt. That darkness by itself will not just stay and be dormant, but to seek to destroy, so, the fight for the balance is to be fighting against the darkness. Lots of people say that in Ahsoka fight coma, she was unbalanced fighting Baylon. But the conflict of darkness is what did that, right? With Anakin teaching her, I don’t see it as him using the dark side to fight. I think this was her great trial. No different than when Kanan in Rebels and his knighthood, or Luke in Degobah. She was confronted by manifestations of her fear, anger, hate, pain. So idk. I don’t see Anakin using the dark side as a teacher for good. Because the Dark side has never been used for good. And those who venture down there don’t hold to the light. Idk. Interesting mythos and philosophies to ponder. As one star wars fan to another, appreciate your post

Hayden really puts the work in for the lightsaber fights almost looks effortless.

Yea Hayden after all this time is still a badass. I wish we could've gotten more over the years with him. Still time for more, but idk if there are any actors who can match Ewan McGregor and Haydens commitment to the lightsaber fights.

@@j-s-mhe really was awesome

@@craigcowie3671 he was always my favorite I never understood the hate he got before

Highly underrated, and IMO true

Well, actually, george lucas original vision of the force is that the dark side is the corruption of the force..The Light Side is the Force is it's pure original state.. The dark side Comes from People Attempting to Bend the force to their Will. The dark side is evil and unnatural.

Maybe in that moment after she ‘took’ the saber he finally made peace with it. Like the duel reference of Luke tossing his blade away and Ahsokas refusal mirroring.

Yeah, I was about to say. This was not about Anakin making peace with himself. This was all about Ahsoka. Anakin is the balance and will continue being the chosen one for all time.

no no. Anakins eyes did go yellow with red in them at various times, especially when he finally lit the red saber

Exactly. She was in the water for far too long for her to not be dead.

I agree with you! Only thing I will say is Ezra got his kyver Crystal in the WBW. And when he, Kanan, and Ahsoka go into the temple and Kanan gets knighted in Season 2, Ezra sees Yoda and the background is the WBW. Not a clear as Season 4, for sure. So it’s possible that one could be there and not be there at the same time. But I agree with you, she was there. And hera and Jacen could hear it cause it cause happening there where she got pulled in

It was, yeah.

It’s a glimpse of how powerful he would’ve been had he not become a cyborg.

Technically we also have alternate ending revenge of the sith video game Anakin too.

@RelinquishedSoul correct, but he wielded a red lightsaber with the Vader hilt in the video game. In the series, he is wielding anakins hilt that was given to Luke but with both red and blue crystal colors.

​@@RelinquishedSoulyeah, I think he can use a red blade in the duel mode as a palette swap as well! That game was fun.

I hope she realizes that coping mechanism is part of the reason the Jedi were the way the were in the Clone wars. That now she is repeating the same mistakes they were.

That’s cool. So Ezra’s looked different cause his path was to find Ahsoka and bring her there. His required doorways to find her. But Ahsoka’s different cause she’s not there to view doorways. She’s there to train.

@Bacontats possible but the way I saw it was that every force weider uses and sees it differently due people tend to see the world differently so it shapes itself to the individual Season 4 Ezra was wrapped up in his past losts his parents ashoka and kaanan and his regrets ashoka was wrapped in guilt and worry that she'd become like vader so she sees a bunch of paths with one dead ending with anakin standing there to teach her (granted just a theory)

It’s revenge because she did that to him first in Rebels 💀💀

@@josueroberto7356 yeah but just the way he said what he did then just non chalantly

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