Sounds very good and probably not too expensive. I'm sure you'll get great results with that setup. Thanks for your comment!

I always liked the Yamaha RM800. They sound really good. I have actually thought about getting one of those since the 90s.

@@TwinCreekAudio The RM800 is great. It has lots of headroom and 56 channels when mixing (24 channels with EQ, 24 monitor channels, and 4 stereo FX returns) in a mid size format. It is not modular but it has individual channel strips. It is hard to find one for sale though.

They are definitely underated. The summing amps on these were very good quality but preamps and EQ sound good too. They also appear to have held up well over time. Good reliable consoles in my opinion.

Thank you! Good to meet you.

Thank you! I'm always looking for used gear to test and ways to use it all.

Thanks so much! I hope to make more like it as soon as I finish moving and get the studio set back up.

@@TheOriginalCoda thank you!

Thank you! Happy Holidays!

I grabbed a ghost 32 recently and I can’t wait to get it up and running. Good luck on your console search.

The Big and the Ghost are both good consoles. I owned a Ghost for awhile and also used a Big in my college days. They both have great EQ and preamps.

Good used analog gear has never been less expensive. This gear was made to last and sound great. I doubt a lot of modern gear will last as long.

@@TwinCreekAudio Awesome comment. Definitely subscribed. Loving the content!

Thanks so much and Happy Holidays! I'll be working on more videos soon too! Thanks again!

Thanks so much! Merry Christmas! I am already working on new videos as time allows. Thanks again!

I find the digital audio world, especially plugins and updates to be frustrating. It seems we have to buy our gear again every few years so it will work with our Macs etc. analog gear is a much better investment and it is starting to look like the digital audio software industry is more of a scam than anything. Many plugins do the exact same thing but have different window dressing and marketing. I find i can do more with analog and it sounds better. It's also less frustrating and doesn't break my creative flow as much.

Thank you! I work really hard to help out the analog community and I enjoy making videos.

Thank you! I should have more videos coming over the holidays since I have extra time.

Awesome! I'd like to have a Lexicon reverb one day. Sounds like a great setup!

Thank you so much! The channel has taken a lot of work over the last 4 years. They are supposed to be very good consoles but I haven't personally used that model. I think it's similar to the 500. Having a patchbay is always useful so I'm sure it will work great for you.

I am too! Picked up a 600 with patch bay free from NY then learned the power supply was fried, tested the channel strips on my friend's 500 in vermont, then found one (500) super cheap in connecticut so I'm working towards one big franken-console. There's a great facebook group called analog consoles as well as an unaffiliated subgroup called soundcraft 500 & 600 mods tutorials and chat. Lots of info coming. Love this channel Grady!

@@shardsrecordingstudio-matt2247 hey man, very cool! i'm about to start recapping the PS. fun fun! good luck with the FrankenCraft!!! i will look for those groups and hopefully see you over there.

@shardsrecordingstudio-matt2247 Hey Matt, I found I was already a member at the Analog Consoles group! And I joined the other one you mentioned. Super cool, thanks, I'll try to find you over there.

@@shardsrecordingstudio-matt2247 Thank you! I bought a rebuilt CPS550 from Creation for my Sapphyre and a rebuilt CPS450. I also have a spare 450 and 550 now after having the originals rebuilt. That's really the only issue I've ever had with a Soundcraft. They are very well built.

Thank you! I have worked really hard to make all these videos and build the channel. I wanted it to be more like a classic KZfaq channel than these that mainly cover plugins and DAWs.

I've owned a lot of it for a long time and sometimes I just wait until I find what I'm looking for at a decent price. My 2 ART TCSs were like that.

Nice! Analog is good and less hassle sometimes.

Thank you! I'll have more videos coming over the holidays.

Please make a video on the topic " plugins are better than cheap analog gears".... I have heard this line many times, I am confused actually... Actually my plan is to invest in some budget analog gears, but everyone makes me confused...

@@jeetmix1986 I get good results with less expensive analog gear. Some plugins do work very well but I prefer less expensive analog gear. A lot of mine was more expensive when it was new. They just aren't the famous models everyone talks about which is why the value goes down. They still work very well for me and give me a unique sound. I like plugins but the cost, updates, and digital hassles are not good. My analog gear will always do what it was designed to do without any software updates. Also, we cannot own a plugin. We can only own the right to use it until we need to pay for a new version. DAWless recording is gaining attention again but I don't think I will go that far. I like the power of the DAW and the sound of analog.

@@TwinCreekAudio Thank you again, you really make everything clear.... Thank you so much 🙏

Yes, it is definitely possible to use that console. The best way is to send the direct outs to audio interface inputs and audio interface outputs to line inputs. It is best to use separate channels for recording to the interface and others to return the signal from the interface for hybrid mixing but you can get around that by repatching between recording and mixing. The GB was designed for live sound but with 32 channels you can use at least 8 for monitoring channels while tracking up to 24 channels simultaneously. There is a lot of flexibility with a system like that, even when using a console designed for something other than recording. Make sure to check out my video. How to set up for mixing on an analog console and how to record tracks with an analog console. I will copy and paste the link below. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p6uampqZns-zoXk.htmlsi=fbUITsEkVxyq_pbr kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iL2dq86Al83Sf6c.htmlsi=-FbH6YCoVTygh52- Thanks for your question. I hope this helps!

I have made a lot of videos about analog gear and consoles.

i have a question. i have a the mackie SR32-4 VLZ Pro. im trying to send individual tracks to group outputs panning them L/R. seems to be not working. i think i get about 3-4 tracks going out in mono. i have to be connecting something wrong.@@TwinCreekAudio

It might cause a feedback loop. You cannot route the direct out of a channel while returning to the same channel espefially if you have monitoring on in the DAW. You need to use separate channels for sending to the interface and returning back from the interface. That's why recording consoles have separate tape channels. Your console has only 4 separate line inputs so you'll have to use different channels for sending to interface and coming back. It's a little more complicated than that as you can still monitor what's being recorded through the console while monitoring something from the DAW on different inputs. In other words, it depends on how you want to play back tracks while recording new ones. I would probably just use the 4 line inputs for playback from the DAW when recording using the console and then repatch the audio interface outputs to line inputs on the channels when you want to mix or sum with the console. You could also use the first 8 channels for recording with the direct outs and 9-16 for mixing. Looks like a good console. I had a Ramsa but mine was earlier. WR-8816 I think. It had 8 tape inputs for an 8 track tape machine. I hope that helps.

That is true. I don't have a controller but I will sometimes put the console faders at 0 and do all my automation in the box. That seems to work OK but I'm still stuck using a mouse.

@@TwinCreekAudioI'm sure though dealing with latency is pretty low though.

@@brentharmonmusicproduction the way my interfaces work, there isn't any latency. The inputs pass the signal to the outputs when tracking like tape machines used to do. I think the same can be done with RME but it might have latency since it's a software mixer.

The Toslink would need to go to another interface with analog outs. You should have 10 analog outs on the 18i20 so you'd just connect those to the line inputs of the console and assign the tracks to the outputs in your DAW. I don't know that interface very well but that's the basic idea. You'd need another interface with additional analog outs if you'd like to combine more than 10 analog outputs since there is no way to add additional analog outputs to any interface without linking a second one with some kind of digital connection.

@@TwinCreekAudio could you please let me know which interface should i get to use the Toslink with the analog outs ? By the way, loving your videos, Thank you very much for the info

You can usually pick them up for between $300-$750 used. I'm not selling mine though.

@@Ilikethatmusic_typebeats it needs a software mixer to use and I was never able to get it to work as an extra set of ADAT inputs. It works fine on older Macs but you have to use it as the interface with something else connected to it's ADAT ports for extra channels. These were very good interfaces that were well supported for a very long time, but they are getting a bit old and driver support is less than it was on newer OS. I think the Mark II and beyond should work as an extra set of inputs from what I've read but I have not personally tried it.

@@TwinCreekAudioI guess there’s no need of wasting my time and money if I can’t get it to work the way I want it to. I will probably look to the newer one in the near future. Thanks for your help as always .

@@Ilikethatmusic_typebeats you're welcome! I do like MOTU interfaces and I think the newer versions with a software mixer will work the way you want. The original 828 doesn't have some of the DSP hardware needed to run Cue Mix etc.

That's always a good idea. Cabling is expensive if purchased separately.

Yeah, it's part of the show. It's funny how I don't remember even pushing faders around that much in this video so not sure what you're even talking about. I don't remember what music I used in this video but I'm sorry you don't like it. Music is subjective anyway so what's your point? Just in a bad mood and decided to take it out on some poor KZfaqr? I hope your day gets better.

I think the best way to get a great interface with the best converters is the RME Digiface. Then you can use it with any converters that have ADAT connections. That means you can mix and match the converters as well. The Behringer ADA8200 is great for the money and if you want a bit more quality, the Ferrofish converters would give you 16 channels of IO. The Digiface supports up to 32 IO total on ADAT connections. Analog consoles of decent quality shouldn't be too hard to find. You might look for a Mackie analog 8 Bus or a Soundcraft used. Some people don't like the Mackie, but I think they sound great and are usually inexpensive and easy to find since they are common. The only new analog consoles will be very expensive but there are some great models being made now that night be available on Amazon though a reseller. Toft, Audient, or SSL. In the case of the Big Six, it has converters and USB interface built in but is quite expensive and lacks some features of a full analog console. If you can find the Zed R16, they are fantastic sounding consoles that should still work with macOS up to Monterey and Windows 10 though I'm not sure the drivers will work beyond that. You also need FireWire to use it or a Nac with thunderbolt and an adapter to FW400. They lack inserts on the subgroups but that's really the only feature the R16 lacks. I hope that helps! Greetings from Texas! I'm in East Texas and I love talking to people from all over the world. Thanks so much for your comment!

@@TwinCreekAudio Man, thanks a lot for your quick response. Now I have some homework to do about all the gear you mention. ++ I highly appreciate it!

@@TwinCreekAudio thank you¡ I’m checking an Alexis studio 32, they say the routing is very easy, some tell wonders of the eq, but some others disagree. Could you give me your opinion about it¿ I appreciate it.

@@miltonmagik I havent used the Studio 32 though I did use their older console, the 1622. It was not great in my opinion but the Studio 32 is a later model and looks much better features and specifications wise.

@@TwinCreekAudio than You! Looking forward to more vids!

That method seems to work fine. I tend to submit sounds that are similar when I work that way. You'll probably see most of the same benefits of total analog summing that way or at least most people won't hear the difference. That's a perfectly good way to work hybrid though.

@@TwinCreekAudio Thank you! I suppose in the worst case, I could also submix through the mixer and “print” the submix to a new DAW track. It just means I couldn’t tweak the submix during the main session without a lot of hassle.

@@hiteho_woozy that would work too but submixing in the box should work fine too. You can even submix each group of instruments types and then sum the groups on the console. Any of that will add some analog saturation to the tracks and combining similar sounds to submixes should still allow more of the original sound to come through with less digital loss.

That are a combination of Echo Audiofires and NOTU. I have 2 separate rigs set up. 24 IO on one and 16 on the other.

@@TheOriginalCoda I agree 100% Thank you!

The NS10s are running with a Yorkville 300 watt amp. The Tannoys are powered monitors though.

That's a difficult question to answer. They are both good in different ways but I'd probably choose the Ghost over the Mackie 8 Bus. For the money, I'd choose the Mackie though. I didn't like the Ghost preamps as much as some people do. They don't compete with the pres on my Soundcraft Sapphyre. The Ghost has superior EQ though.

@@TwinCreekAudio I absolutely love your channel!! I find the mackie has more options. Im looking to get interface but I don’t want to pay to much. What would be iyo the most cost effective way to get 32 coming out on my MacBook Pro m1. I’m kind of stuck between ( pre sinus , TASCAM , and Focusrite do you have any advice?? the Mackie is a 32 with a meter bridge, did they make a meter bridge on the older ones, or is it a newer one.

@@MusicalPaintCanvas thank you so much! The channel has taken years of work and I'm really glad people are finding it useful and interesting. as far as interfaces go, I like the RME Digiface and you can add 32 IO with whatever converters you want for each 8 channels. Even the Behringer ADA8200 sounds pretty good for this. I also like MOTO a lot and their 16a with some additional ADAT interfaces would be a good choice as it has AVB should you ever want to go that route.

@@TwinCreekAudio I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. I’m a newbie at this stuff , but there something about a console that I’m just attracted to. the guy selling the ghost mentioned to me that 3 channels were oxidized … it doesn’t seem to be something hard to fix. What do you think? Do you have a place on line that can help reservice these console when things go wrong or when they need fixing?

@@MusicalPaintCanvas Creation Audio Labs in Nashville can service and even mod and upgrade the Ghost. The modules are separate underneath so it's not too difficult to remove them for service. I would definitely clean and all 1/4" connectors with something good like Deoxit Gold. Also, the headphone jack and control room level pots can be a problem with the Ghost. It's usually best to hardwire bypass the headphone jack and use an external headphone amp. My Ghost did not have this problem. I don't remember having any problems with it but it's been more than 10 years since I owned it. I have had the Sapphyre for 5 years now with no problems except the power supplies which I had rebuilt.

I didn't delete any comments. I like plugins and digital. My channel is just geared toward analog hardware because plugins and DAW are really saturated on KZfaq already.

@@TwinCreekAudio Yeah, I know Grady, it's that artificial un-intelligence algorithm. I mentioned it because you were talking about cost. I picked up a new channel strip for ninetten schekels. And it's wonderful.

Maybe I should include some videos about plugins that are fair with the way they do business and sound great. Smaller plugin makers etc. That would be a decent way to add some of that content to my channel without feeling like a sell out. lol!