Thank you! Most people don't know anamorphic enough to understand where the issue comes from. :)

If you want to be able to send this into editing without needing correction, a few diopters will make a big difference. I expect I’ll keep a +1/2 and +1 in the kit. If they made a Rangefinder/Rectilux-type variable diopter in this size, we could completely solve the mumps problem. If you’re shooting low budget anamorphic docu or events, then you’re probably on a Sirui already. I see the Great Joy as targeting the narrative productions that won’t pay for Vazen/Atlas. This also will probably make the SLR Magic Anamorphot 1.33x PL lenses less relevant, especially if the GJ 35mm and 85mm come out on time and with similar performance.

excellent points all around.

@@AnamorphicOnABudget Is there a formula for knowing what the squeeze is vs the distance marking on the lens at the time? Just trying to know how to know what squeeze to do, rather than just eyeballing it...?

Thank you!

Thank you! I'm actually talking about that difference in an upcoming video! hahaha

The difference is exporting in 1920x1080 or 1920x816(ish) Or 3840x1630(ish) for 4K Instead of black bars you actually crop the video. That’s it lol.

Nice to see you around here Zak!

Have you seen the video with the shots of the boots?

Which one of the two? The one from VintageLensesForVideo or the other one?

Thanks! I think they should be okay on those cameras! :)

@@AnamorphicOnABudget Hello, I just got my Great Joy 50mm anamorphic in. Looks great. I'm currently trying to hook it on my FF sensor M10M. Now, I"m trying to figure the best tool, and workflow to desqueeze AND, if possible...keep with a RAW workflow. I'm not exactly sure what numbers to put in to de-squeeze. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance!! CC

Come back tomorrow and the wait shall be over! :D

@@AnamorphicOnABudget hahah this guy is crazy! It's settled, see you tomorrow lol

There are mostly Atlas lenses, and some of the bigger rental houses have Cookes and Kowas. A few LOMOs are owned by DPs that rent them out too.

@@AnamorphicOnABudget If you have any names for the Atlas ones, please send them my way.

Lorne and Lapham has them for rent. I think even Gearbase has them.

The squeeze change does not depend on the sensor behind it. :)

They have those numbers in the campaign page!

​@@AnamorphicOnABudget Well now that you mention it, it would indeed have been smarter to start by looking there lol. Thanks!

You should come back tomorrow then! :)

Their 35mm, coming up soon, doesn't have the squeeze change. They claim the same for the future 85mm.

I like the extra squeeze and mount options here better than the Sirui.

It'll be absolutely fine. The sensor is smaller than the lens' image circle, so you get full coverage. The only thing to watch out for is the varying squeeze. :)

@@AnamorphicOnABudget Cheers much appreciated for the response.

I think the GFX100 has 3:2 sensor...?

I used these Kowa anamorphic lenses a while ago and they are priceless, they made me have to compensate for some weird squeeze shifting as well.

Most camera sensors are 3:2, He's referring to ones that can record in open gate. Only Panasonic has open gate recording for less than $10,000

@@geoffreybassett6741 I wonder..what about shooting stills on a 3:2 camera with an anamorphic lens? That would use the full sensor, wouldn't it?

@@geoffreybassett6741 wrong, ZCAM E2 F6 has the same sensor as the S1H and can shoot open gate in 4K or 6K ProRes

It should, yeah. :)

@@AnamorphicOnABudget thx

Hahaha, correct! And the woman is my mom. :P Thank you!

Correct. That's the whole point.

@@AnamorphicOnABudget I understand that it is a consequence and downside of the lens, I don’t see how it is the point of it. Also since people commonly shoot video on Canon stills cameras I would have thought that warning was more important that the inability to add a speed booster.

Your reply makes sense. I guess I was hoping that the animation at the very beginning would clear this. I see more people filming with cameras without mirrors and using speedboosters than the other way around, so I thought that would be a more common issue. But you are correct. The mirror will hit the back of the lens if it's not up.

I'm new to this but am trying to gauge if it will work on DSMC2 Red cams with EF mount.

I'm more inclined towards amber. Mostly because the vast majority of flares are blue and I like being different. :P

No. I say that IN THE VIDEO and explain why.

No.

You have all the numbers! Just match them up here: tferradans.com/arcalc/go

I'd always avoid removing coatings. That said, I don't know how we could increase flare here.

If you're willing t spend this kind of money - why stick with MFT?

I'd go with PL. The optics are absolutely the same. You can mount it on MFT if you want using an adapter. As I said in the video - twice - you CANNOT use a speedbooster or focal reducer on this lens, regardless of mount selection.

I'm not sure about cameras that have internal NDs. I know adapters with internal NDs will fail. The campaign page has the specs on the protrusion so you can compare that to the depth of the camera mount to the ND! :)

The one I had was blue. It's all a matter of preference.

There's indeed too little footage, but I share your impression, that the amber version flares more easily.

Why should someone add black bars? Seems like a weird approach. It is all about rendering the video in the right aspect ratio. U could also render a video which was shot with spherical lenses in 2.39:1 and could enjoy it on ur wide screen monitor without black bars.

The diopters I'm using are just regular single-element pieces, like this one: www.amazon.ca/dp/B004E580PY/

Yes! :)

@@AnamorphicOnABudget brill! I was worried there for a second 😇

I was about to ask the same. Thanks!

Probably, it just has to be a really big one! :P

Here's a $20 set. bhpho.to/3yupVaZ. All that's really missing is a +0.5, and there are 86mm options out there (Rapido, Vormax).

@@AnamorphicOnABudget there is also tiffen, but those cost like 450usd

oh, thought Vivitar stopped at 77 :))

Great to see the question and find the answer for it right below! Thank you for sharing your findings! Let me know if it works as planned! :D

@@AnamorphicOnABudget Alright, so I received the lens adapter + thread adapter yesterday, my findings with the Sony A7S III (=full frame image circle). SLR Magic Microprimes: - 18mm/21mm: forget it. - 35mm: pretty much useless. Vignettes, gotta crop in to get rid of the vignette which makes it pretty much just as wide as without the adapter. - 50mm: vignettes too, but useable. - 75mm: no vignette at all. A bit soft though. Tried it on my Tamron 28-75 F/2.8 G1 as well which was kinda interesting, somewhat useable between 45-75mm with a bit of cropping. Funny thing is, that you can actually use the autofocus when you set the adapter`s focus ring to a roughly correct distance. Also tried it with my Sigma 24-70 F/2.8 which was useless (heavy vignetting). Gave it a try on my Sirui APS-C anamorphics as well, same conlusions as yours. However, will probaby not use it with the Siruis too much given that the 1.8 squeeze isn't too great combined with 16:9 sensors. For sure a great option for 4:3 sensors or everything not as wide as Sony's 16:9. Overall ... well, quite nice if you want to get cheap anamorphic options in the 45-80mm range. However, not perfect for Sony.

Yeah, it clears alright! :)

They hit the glass on the focal reducer.

Use the calculator! www.tferradans.com/arcalc/go :)

@@AnamorphicOnABudget Calculator will not allow a timeline resolution of 4096x1716? It defaults to 1712 for 2.39:1.

@@AnamorphicOnABudget but didn't you mention that any camera body that uses internal ND like the pocket 6k pro won't fit? Or it'll fit just not when your trying to use the internal ND?

I said any adapter mounted filters, or focal reducers won't work. The camera bodies put the NDs very close to the sensor, and that still works. You have the accurate measurement in the campaign. They also say the lens fits fine on the BMPCC6K and other BM cameras with internal NDs.

The aspect ratio difference is minimal (0.25% difference), and 1712 is friendlier to codecs and quality of compression. That's something I built into the calculator and talked almost nothing about. hahaha.

No clue just yet, but I believe their 35mm is coming first.

It'll work fine with the internal NDs. The issue is with adapter-mounted filters.

I like the mount options here!

Yeah, and not assuming, I say this in the video. hahaha

Mind must have wandered off at that point haha, thanks!

According to Great Joy you can. I asked before the launch because I need to make sure it'll first my camera.

I think it does, but mine didn't have one, maybe from being a demo unit.

It doesn't come with a PL adapter. You have to get one. Many options out there. I have Metabones and Wooden Camera, but used some others as well.

@@AnamorphicOnABudget Sigma MC-31 Mount Converter/Lens Adapter (PL-Mount Lenses to L-Mount Camera) this can work ? So it means I can use these lens to any camera just get right adopter.

Yeah! The Sigma will work too!

You should be able to, yeah!

YOU. WILL. NOT. BE. ABLE. TO. FIT. THE. GREAT. JOY. 50MM. ONTO. A. FOCAL. REDUCER. OR. ANY. KIND. OF. FILTRATION. THAT. GOES. BEHIND. THE. MOUNT. Better? hahahaha

@@AnamorphicOnABudget So I can put this on my Metabones, right?

It'll be perfect. #sarcasm.

@@izzieb might be hard to balance it :))

focus pulling: it will be intense. I'd keep the squeeze set for close focus. I haven't done an "infinity to min focus" pull in forever, as no narrative ever has that, but you'd notice the difference, yeah.

I don't know how those NDs are installed and how close they are to the sensor. If they're closer than 20mm to the sensor, it should be okay.

@@AnamorphicOnABudget they seem pretty close but I am not sure what the exact specs are off the top of my head, that being said I ordered one of these lenses so we’ll find out if there any issues 😅

Of two lands just released a video with that combo, so I guess it would work! They'll certainly answer if you ask them. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7ufhdF71NCVfJc.html EDIT : oops, looks like it's the regular 6K, but I believe they have both so they should still be able to answer.

Flo over on Tale of Two Lands confirmed in his video comment section he tried it on the 6K Pro and it cleared the ND's!

@@brandonblackonline oh awesome! 🙌

Lumix S1H

nvm on their page it said the pocket 6k pro and the ursas are compatible

Yeah!

@@AnamorphicOnABudget Thank you! I've been following your channel for a bit and appreciate the reply. Is there a EF to E mount adaptor that you recommend? I've wanted to get into anamorphic for about 3 years and I think I'll finally pull the trigger and start with this one. It's not perfect but I prefer the subtle flaring with the amber option (seems more organic for my intended purposes). Giving you a follow in IG as well. Cheers Tito!

Thank you! I'm glad you found something that works for your taste! :D I don't have any personal recommendations. I'd probably go with the cheapest possible, since the goal is to just get that flange distance correct and you don't need any electronics. :)

Yes.

I agree on all the notes. I haven't started watching the reviews yet to see who might've said that. The ones from Laowa are pretty clean (video coming next week). T2.9 is kind of lame overall, and I'm having a hard time understanding the trend. I think we're starting to see the beginning of a road which will take a few years to develop where we'll have a good array of affordable anamorphics to choose from and tick the boxes we want ticked. So far this one is my favorite of the new wave of cheap scopes, but who knows what the future brings? :)

@@AnamorphicOnABudget >and I'm having a hard time understanding the trend. I think it's price/performance, ultimately. So much more glass means bulk and money. But yeah, bit of a bummer. Keen to see the Laowa. That I think of it I kinda believe I heard no mumps about that one (and I think it was a sales rep from them who spammed teaser-adverts on the group... yeah that might be it, if memory serves me right). 1.5x is kinda lame in its own regard and I recall the flares were hideous but well... you win some, you lose some, but ultimately right now you don't gain some, haha

@@LucasPfaff the only things “wrong” with this lens is really compromising. 1) Changing Squeeze Factor 2)Protruding element is annoying 3) Only T2.9. I would have paid more and dealt with a heavier lens to fix the squeeze and get a T2 but the general public who aren’t pixel peeping nerds like us won’t even know what mumps are and 2.9 is fast enough.

@@JitDawgBruhDang it's actually the seasoned pros I only ever hear talking about slower lenses being enough. Especially the come-and-get-crowd has speed over everything, I mean there's plenty of stupidly fast lenses because of that. In the end, we can get the Vazen, which makes a lot of things better. For a price. And I don't think Vazen has a terrific markup

@@LucasPfaff Yea, T2.9 is adequate. The atlas Orion goes to T2 but it is as sharp as baby throw up when shooting wide open but sharpens up quickly at 2.8. This line of lenses won’t be beaten by any lens being released this year unless Laowa lenses give a 1.8x Stretch at least

what's weird about it?

@@ODHunte the glass protrudes towards the sensor more than most lenses and will likely not work with some cameras internal nd systems or speed boosters

@@FULLofJOHN ah shame.. Well mine is on the way. I'll let you know how I get on..

@@ODHunte oh man please do! What are you filming with

BMPCC 6K Pro atm

I'm more into this, at the moment.

It's all good, that'll work fine.

EF or PL? In the ursa?

Either should be fine.

Personal choice? :)

I agree. I'm passing on this lens, but I'm looking forward to the ever expanding selection of budget anamorphics. It's cool that's becoming normalish now.

The focal length equivalence increases. The field of view decreases.

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Sure it can.

@@timlinssen not natively as black magic has built in nds

@@DAF21films You can use with cameras that have built in nds. You will only find problems with ND filters built into adapters (like the ef to rf mount one) and speedboosters.