Kinda yes

And the Tellarites are the uncle in law that no one invites but who manages to find out anyways and shows up despite no one wanting him there because he always acts like a boar, ...I mean bore. Of course the Klingons are the hyper patriotic cousin who joined the Marines but still acts like a jarhead because a jarhead is a jarhead; the guy is honorable but gets drunk and does stupid things. The Denobulans are the distant cousin who ran off and joined a commune during the 60s and now has a family that includes a number of erstwhile couples that practice free love and have open relationships; and a passel of kids that no one is quite sure about the parentage. And the Romulans are the family’s politician that is from a really distant part of the family and that no one likes because he’s a Republican with typical Machiavellian tendencies. No one talks about the Risan in the family though.

Or buys you beer when your 14! 😂

Funny comment.

a more modest approach would be to simply section off the station in halves, environmental controls in startrek and indeed even in our space stations in orbit, allow this.

Penname Geller add a Klingon and you’ve got a proper brawl.

Andorians and Tholians. Two extreme ends of the thermometer.

lmao facts

What Nick said.

Yeah but fuck the Tellarites lmao

True, they are my favorite race in Star Trek

Enterprise was a good show

Yes, never really understood why they didn't really show up.

In "Rise of the Federation", Captain T'Pol actually has an officer who is an Andorian on her USS Endeavour. If "Enterprise" were to be revived-by jennifer.verti@cbs.com and lauri.metrose@cbs.com re-doing the last episode of the 4th season,the series could continue on CBS All Access into the Romulan War and onward. Trip is not dead. He faked his death so he could infiltrate the Romulans. Fans should write Alex and ask that they revive "Enterprise" without any more holo-programmes by "TNG", "DS9", etc. "Enterprise" should stand alone on its own.

@@virginiaconnor8350 God. No. Kurtzman-Trek is horrible.

Weirdly enough despite having Tactical acumen, I keep getting Science Andorians in my BOFF roster in STO

@@virginiaconnor8350 anyone else or don't do it at all

Good news about "Strange New Worlds"

it could be that they were both main characters in quantum leap just maybe

You may be thinking about Al Calavicci who played alongside Scott Bakula (Archer in ENT) in Quantum Leap. Jeffrey Combs was never in that show as a main character, and I don't recall him ever being in QL at all.

dammit that makeup made him look like al

Having said that, it was a nice touch to get Dean Stockwell to play the Tandaran Colonel Grat in the first season as the head of the Suliban detention facility where Archer and Mayweather got locked up in.

Combs is such a good actor. He played Shran the andorian on Enterprise Weyoun the vorta and Brunt the ferengi both on DS9 with all very different types of personalities. He made them all memorable.

Sad 😔 They a lovely shade of blue 💙💙💙

Not true. There was an Andorian clearly in the background scene on Risa when Picard was sunbathing trying to read his book.

Theirs a brief mention of them in ds9 though I forget the episode. I think quark is the one who mentioned them

It’s true that Enterprise is the only show where they’re featured.

That was deliberate, the idea was to showcase new aliens but then they ended up falling back on a bunch of the older races anyway and Andorians just got shafted.

They do have a very high metabolism, which makes phase weapons particularly deadly to them

Grand Admiral Thrawn And thank God they got Jeffrey Combs to play the main one....

I couldn't help but imagine the young commander Thrawn in Outbound Flight as commander Shran with Chiss features (and minus the antennas of course), even the ships looked like the andorian ones in my mind... ^^

pink skin

Jolene Blalock was second best then. :P

*Jeffery combs is the best thing about star trek period.

Jeffrey Combs is the best non-main-cast star trek actor ever. And he's better than most of the main cast actors too. He deserves his own star trek show now, since they've got tons of star trek shows on the go at the moment, so why not make him some kinda captain in starfleet?

@@duffman18 I agree with you completely. He's played so many aliens, I bet he would jump at the chance to play a human.

Vulcans know the danger of accelerating a cultures technological advancement to quickly. I mean, not long after we made the first atomic bombs, we dropped it onto fellow hoomans. And history has shown as over and over again what happens when a civilisation that is more advance meet a lesser advance one. And barely living to the age of a hundred makes us seem like a bit of a child race. Dying of old age to soon to acquire "real" knowledge. But yes, they were a bit overly arrogant, but what Vulcan isn't? Would a not arrogant Vulcan really be a true Vulcan? :p And the Andorians are great! Real fun and cool race.

@@WolfFireheart I like Vulcans but most of them are asses and they were a bit on the authoritarian side, kind of a planet of Karens without the emotion, Andorians a bit hot headed but good loyal friends once a friendship was established, real sense of honor, duty and self sacrifice.

Pinkskins definitely isnt racist

This is true. Millions of humans were slaughtered in Enterprise and the Vulcans didn't lift a finger, at least the Andorians were willing to help...even if that help was a little bit self-serving at times. That and they were more willing than Vulcans to help humanity with technology. The Vulcans wouldn't even share their knowledge of tractor beams at one point.

@@WolfFireheart archer lived to 140. Medical technology would have greatly increased the average lifespan and healthspan

Just about my favorite Shran line. :)

My favorite line as well. I actually looked for this post before writing the same thing!

Lmao 😂😂😂

They have a big role in DS9 relaunch novels.

@@markuscriticus8278 That version was really just too weird and I thought kinda dumb , given they went with some kind of idea of four biological sexes that somehow didn't produce a population problem in their species' evolution but somehow became unmanageable in a highly advanced Federation. The Enterprise Andorians, though they skirted the four-person-marriage thing entirely, were actually in large part based on the LUG and later game systems' sourcebooks, possibly via some of the same creative talent, and that made a lot more sense. (On the fertility issue, basically there were still just two biological sexes but couples, presumably of whatever orientations, would marry in groups of four so they'd have more cooperation and redundancy in a dangerous world. I think it's just simpler that way, ...in a lot of warrior societies, people have *real* close friendships with people of the same sex, whatever form that takes, ...I tend to extrapolate on that to figure probably Andorians really don't care, at least on that basis, who's romantically-attracted to who, like Human cultures often have historically been. Kinda means everyone's in the same boat, even if they aren't bi. :) They're clannish, likely hunters in their species' history, so just think a bit of a pack mentality, ...and if your genes 'want' to survive, it's good to have three other people that consider any kids of yours the same as their own if you have a bad day trying to bring down the local equivalent of a mastodon or something. :) ) I've always thought it was a pretty dumb sci-fi trope to have writers go out of their way to make it that complicated for a species to have survived in the first place, then use that to 'punish' them over not being like Humans anyway, thus need to be 'saved' and all. (Also maybe the SFX guys and writers went too far out of their way to make Andoria look like a total iceball from orbit, then show only the Northern Wastes for an example of what Andoria's like, ...mono-climate worlds with humanoids on em does strain plausibility to me. :) )

Why were they left put of TNG along with a number of others?

@@williammerkel1410 Who can say...budget? Predictable writing? Taking the easy route? Lots of aliens made sense in DS9, but the lack of 'diversity' in the Enterprise's crew was a bit of a disappointment. They swapped a Vulcan out for a Betazoid, added a Klingon for character 'color', and Data as a walking - talking McGuffin. My guess: budget. TV shows are expensive, and actor prep to look 'alien' adds to that expense. ST Enterprise went "all in" for the alien vibe, and that's why I have a fondness for the series second only to ST:TOS (and the deep disappointment that CBS chopped the series after Season Four).

I think the writers for DS9 just completely forgot about the Andorians and Tellerites and Thoalins and Gorn should have added all the races in the Dominion war.

"A Vulcan's gonna do what a Vulcan's gonna do. But the Andorian's... they were happy to give us the phasers." RIP Axanar

Pink skin, speak for yourself.

Matthew Williams what episode is that from

@@BrowncoatInABox not from an episode. From Prelude To Axanar.

@@crazysoulja come on dude are you going full sjw and blm on a quote from star trek l😂😂😂

They'd probably have the aircon running at full power 24/7 leaving no power for shields etc.

And unlike some of the other honor races, such as the Klingon, andorians don't seem to be so back staby.

an Andorian first officer or Science officer would be cool (no pun intended)

i remember in the 70's animated series, in an alternate universe, kirk's 1st officer was an andorian, because spock had died as a child.

Jacob Clark klingons are front staby, not back staby.

A lot of people never gave it a fair chance, especially the more passionate TNG fanboys.

I also really love Star trek enterprise! Tbh it's my favorite

It wasn't that bad... Though the crew was terrible, xcept for phlox and T'pol... but it had cool aliens!

@@williammerkel1410 Funny TNG is my least favorite.

Enterprise threw me for a loop at first and I didn't make it past the first episode, but later I gave it a second go and finished the whole series. I think its first season was really its best season.

Admittedly Enterprise's Vulcans were being influenced by their Romulan cousins, they got a lot better over time.

Vulcan's don't lie ? I guess they're very good at bending the truth !👍😃

@@randybarnett2308 "Logic" makes it very easy to tell technical truths and lies by omission.

ironicaly Vulcans are the most ILLogical race in star trek.

Yes, even compared to pinkskins. May be especailly.

Correct

I always liked them the best, especially when I'm blue.

Logical assumption. They seemed to be way ahead of the Humans and possibly Tellarites, and the Vulcans didn't like sharing weapons, ...but Andorians seemed to be on a par there, so they'd be likely those who influenced Federation weapons tech the most.

When forming a close bond of friendship with an Andorian, is that a "snowmance"?

I think Archer now has a thing for Cpt. Hernandez. If not her, maybe another lady. By the time T'Pol becomes Cpt.of the USS Endeavour, Archer will be an Admiral. She has an Andorian first officer on her ship. Trip is in the story of "The Rise of the Federation" stories so he's not dead and faked his death so he could infiltrate the Romulans. The silly "TNG" holoprogramme messed up the real story.

Yaaas that shade of blue has me ready to get married 💙💙💙💙

Agreed. I always thought the development of their backstory and culture was one of the greatest contributions Star Trek: Enterprise made to the franchise. That and vulcan ship designs.

And then finding out that their blood is a bright blue.

Though it always actually seemed that Alpha Centauri had Humans on it , one way or another, either the Centaurans being ancestrally ancient Greeks tranplanted by aliens, or ....the idea being Alpha Centauri was already independent from Earth but also joined the Federation as a founding member and Cochrane just lived there. Kinda went by the wayside, that notion, though.

@@OllamhDrab Maybe Earth sent out a pre-warp sleeper ship to colonize

@@theloweffortchannel7211 Yeah, that's among the possibilities. Seems a dead certainty that at least that's one of the first places Earth colonized, or would travel to if there were people already there. It gets very little mention.

Looked it up he is lol

Jeffrey Combs, highly under-rated actor that deserves more credit than he actually gets.

He played both Weyoun and Brunt the liquidator on DS9.

Yes. He sounds exactly like Weyoun

Jeffery Combs was also the voice of Ratchet from Transformers Prime.

Quarians first. They run deeper and are not as obvious as the Turians, especially with the added content in the 2nd and 3rd games.

2164 not 2104 3:32

@@Kreachie the estimated date of 2104 is correct. ENT takes place in the early 2150s, United Earth calendar, and Shran told Archer that the Aenar were thought to be a myth until about 50 years prior.

Your profile has a Rush quote, I approve

Not even of our species, bui you could tell she was beautiful in body and soul.

she's an Aenar

She's actually an Aenar

Was the little girl in 'TATV' blind too? She was beautiful too. I like the way T'Pol gently lead her away. Apparently, having had taken care of a baby, even temporarily, T'Pol has developed a softer side to her. Read that it was actually Shran's wife, Jhamel, that was kidnapped instead.

So you prefer the Alien is like Human template? :P Planet Watcher's comment in the comment thread above you explained it very well.

What's wrong with four genders? It makes for interesting stories due to its many implications.

They just use male/female pronouns for simplicity for binary species, nothing ridiculous about it. It's interesting and different.

Well, it's the four biological sexes thing that doesn't make sense, we know they have four-person marriages from canon, but the shows completely disregarded the version from some DS9 novels. That never made any sense anyway. I think they were just trying to make them 'straight' despite being poly, so I found that unimaginitive compared to say, a different culture where two couples of whatever orientation marry in groups of four so that in a dangerous world, there's three people treating the shared kids as their own if something happens to any one. Actually I think it's those *novels* that introduced some contorted and implausible ideas to avoid the possibility that all peoples and all cultures don't necessarily have anything to do with the dominant Human cultures' ideas that the only possible reasons to bond with others or form a family have to do with *needing to to make babies* in the first place, and then somehow presented this as a 'crisis' that could only be solved by making an ...actually older species.... more like those human cultural assumptions. :) That's what I find *lacked imagination.* Basically to *avoid* really fleshing out a different culture. :) Obviously the life forms on Andoria survived their evolution without having a problem it took Julian Bashir and a global personality crisis to solve in the 24th century Earth time.... by becoming like Western human monogamists.... :) (Anyway, the Enterprise series just avoided the issue, but otherwise based the Andorians largely on a game supplement with a different scheme and idea of it all, it's where they got things like the Ushaan from etc, (though Enterprise's version of that seemed ridiculously overcomplicated and with bulky equipment no one would be carrying around, never mind while evacuating a spaceship. :) The Last Unicorn Games version was just a knife-fight, if possible with something like an 'ushaan-tor,' either on a square marked out on clean ice or with white cloth. Not 'Weirdly gigantic gauntlets making it semi-estrappado' :)

That seems very unlikely from a biological perspective, since it would make successful reproduction much more challenging, enough so that it would likely negate the benefits associated with sexual reproduction (genetic diversity).

So you know, booze doesn't actually help you keep warm at all, it's just nice anyway when you aren't. :)

@@OllamhDrab yup it does not medically help with keeping warm

Booze will actually lower your body temperature.

Perhaps Andorians drinks DO increase body temperature afterall it's never mentioned what effects it has and don't forget they also don't tell you how humans react to it.

That's the plan. The stupid life-consuming plan.

Naraht! Such a cheerful and energetic Horta! :)

Do you think they wear Spandex?

Jeff Rosenberg Andorians endured the ice planet and while Vulcans endured the desert planet.

@@donpula6349 only solid desert cuz they nuked themselves

@@richterman3962 Yep but the Vulcans during the time of Surak were highly emotional till Surak's teaching of logic changes the Vulcans way of life and supress emotions...

Biologically speaking, I say the Andorians are the opposite of cardassians :p Cold blooded vs quite warm blooded.

Vulcans only sweat above 700 degrees Fahrenheit according to Tuvock.

Sadly ... Star Trek's planets tend to be one-dimensional one-hat tropes just like the races which inhabit them. We saw small portions of the surface on Andoria, on Vulcan, etc ... which explains that these entire planets are arctic or desert biomes with largely uniform surface conditions, lol. Orbiting a star of some type chosen only for size and colour. Don't get me wrong, I love Trek. But this is one aspect of Trek which tends to be very weak and dumb and shallow. The "unrealism" serves story but breaks the deeper immersion.

Cobalt 59? If not, I find this hard to believe. To my knowledge, all the other isotopes are radioactive.

@@Hallo1248574 would help keep the body tempreture up....