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The question as to whether or not we are hardwired for religion and spirituality is an important one, says pioneering neuroscientist Andrew Newberg. “When we look at how the brain works, we see it’s able to very easily engage in religious and spiritual practices, ideas and experiences.”
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Dr. Andrew Newberg :
Dr. Andrew Newberg is the director of research at the Jefferson Myrna Brind Center of Integrative Medicine and a physician at Jefferson University Hospital. He is board certified in internal medicine and nuclear medicine. Andrew has been asking questions about reality, truth, and God since he was very young, and he has long been fascinated by the human mind and its complex workings. While a medical student, he met Dr. Eugene d’Aquili, who was studying religious experiences. Combining their interests with Andrew’s background in neuroscience and brain imaging, they were able to break new theoretical and empirical ground on the relationship between the brain and religion.
Andrew’s research now largely focuses on how brain function is associated with various mental states-in particular, religious and mystical experiences. His research has included brain scans of people in prayer, meditation, rituals, and trance states, as well as surveys of people's spiritual experiences and attitudes. He has also evaluated the relationship between religious or spiritual phenomena and health, and the effect of meditation on memory. He believes that it is important to keep science rigorous and religion religious. Andrew has also used neuroimaging research projects to study aging and dementia, Parkinson's disease, epilepsy, depression, and other neurological and psychiatric disorders.
Dr. Newberg has published over 100 research articles, essays and book chapters, and is the co-author of the best selling books, Why God Won't Go Away: Brain Science and the Biology of Belief (Ballantine, 2001) and How God Changes Your Brain: Breakthrough Findings from a Leading Neuroscientist (Ballantine, 2009). He has presented his research throughout the world in both scientific and public forums. He appeared on Nightline, 20/20, Good Morning America, ABC's World News Tonight, National Public Radio, London Talk Radio and over fifteen nationally syndicated radio programs. His work has been featured in Time, Newsweek, the Los Angeles Times, the Washington Post, the Philadelphia Inquirer, and many other newspapers and magazines.
His newest work is How Enlightenment Changes Your Brain: The New Science of Transformation.
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TRANSCRIPT:
Andrew Newberg: The question as to whether or not we are hardwired for religion and spirituality, I think, is a very important one. When we look at how the brain works, it looks like the brain is able to very easily engage in religious and spiritual practices, ideas and experiences. All the brain scan studies that we've done show that there are multiple parts of the brain that seem to get involved. So it really does look like the brain is so easily capable of having these experiences. Now exactly how that ability got into the brain is, of course, a much more complex and both philosophical and scientific question. The scientists would say, well, maybe it was through millions of years of evolution, that because being religious or spiritual was an adaptive process it got incorporated into the biological mechanisms of the brain. And there are certainly a lot of reasons to support that.
And, of course, if you're a religious individual it also makes sense that if there is a God up there and we're down here that we would have a brain that's capable of communicating to God, praying to God, doing the things that God needs us to do. Otherwise there would be this kind of fundamentally silly disconnect. We wouldn't be able to have any kind of interaction with God. So it does look like the brain, no matter how it got there, does have this profound ability to engage in religious and spiritual experiences, and that's part of why we've seen religion and spirituality be a part of human history since the very dawn of civilization.
One of the things that we find to be such an important element of many of the rituals and practices that people do as part of their religious traditions is the repetition of it. The more that you come back to a particular idea, the more you focus on it, the more you say a phrase or a prayer, those are the ideas and beliefs that become written into the neural connections of the brain.
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@TheBoxysolution
@TheBoxysolution 12 жыл бұрын
"The only true visdom is in knowing you know nothing." - Socrates
@mattbabb.
@mattbabb. 2 жыл бұрын
But how did he know that? 🤔
@xperiagalvez2398
@xperiagalvez2398 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattbabb. ..paradox
@imverydeadd
@imverydeadd 4 ай бұрын
@@xperiagalvez2398God is pure silence,and pure paradox.
@toshtao1
@toshtao1 12 жыл бұрын
This guy went from Scientist to Yogi in less than 5 minutes.
@fookinboi2194
@fookinboi2194 6 жыл бұрын
toshtao1 There is scientific evidence that meditation and good thoughts does help the brain.
@louisesrensen5529
@louisesrensen5529 2 жыл бұрын
@@fookinboi2194 But it does NOTHING good for your soul. It blocks you from seeking God; the only true one from the bible.
@jay5010
@jay5010 2 жыл бұрын
@@louisesrensen5529 The fuck? Are you trying to say that your religion prevents you from being positive or practicing meditation? Does your god want you to be miserable?
@arilohr5641
@arilohr5641 2 жыл бұрын
@@louisesrensen5529 this isn’t true. meditation and prayer are essentially the same thing
@louisesrensen5529
@louisesrensen5529 2 жыл бұрын
@@arilohr5641 how so? Please explain.
@jahazielutube
@jahazielutube 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. This is a great unbiased explanation and way of looking at an option for people to find peace through meditation and prayer.
@Gufberg
@Gufberg 12 жыл бұрын
I like that he is actually open to both a religious and scientific interpretation - in my opinion both interpretation are likely correct (anybody read Teilhard de Chardin?) Too many atheists deny the concept of divinity catagorically while too many religious people deny the abscence of god categorically
@fookinboi2194
@fookinboi2194 6 жыл бұрын
Gufberg I personally don’t deny that those concepts of the divine category exist as religion is everywhere no matter where you go. I just honestly don’t think that they make sense to me, because then you get something like “Divine Right Theory” being supported by the Church and that for some reason the Bible outranks science and faith outranks reason or that a piece of consecrated unleavened bread is literally God in the material form of bread with a fancy name of transubstantiation.
@AndysBrainblog
@AndysBrainblog 4 жыл бұрын
TEILHARD DE CHARDIN!
@JesusSavesSouls
@JesusSavesSouls Жыл бұрын
@@fookinboi2194 ​ Don’t limit yourself to your own stereotypical ideals of a religious man. You will meet plenty of scientific minds that believe in the bible, and plenty of rational religious men with lots of faith, those ideas do not counter each other, in some circumstances they actually support each other. Its just the rational is changed as one discovers the almighty God, the limitations of reality one first kept, are then shadowed by the unlimited power of the almighty God. (And transmutation is a heresy of the Roman Catholic Church)
@michaelkahama3459
@michaelkahama3459 Жыл бұрын
The amazing world of neurotheology. Dr. Newberg is a blessing to this world for making us curious about this topic.
@jeusmarcomascarina4102
@jeusmarcomascarina4102 Жыл бұрын
​@@fookinboi2194just like math it's look like don't work to you but the fact that in reality it's just existing even we don't recognize it and working. The problem is being mindless or I think term is lack information brings gap in people that don't prefer to understand it. God is not in this world therefore God does exist... In this world. But maybe out there. Hypothesis in science is still open and never close and why we need to understand good. To not die in foolishness and wrong decisions like letting your partner sex with others then regret when she don't want you anymore. The problem everyone including thinks that certain idea is not work just because we only see the one side. But we can find something more when we explore. However finding truth and solution is more hard than finding already at the table that is atheism living and believing without God. Religion is must be consider as branch of Science where how you study like the world and is isn't flat and the authors of the bible just right to bring connection to it's audience not the special book but the history the most important and that is why accounts and information is important and not just what you believe thing. The problem is not the concept of religion but the people who managing it representing it.
@blainealexander
@blainealexander 12 жыл бұрын
where did you get that study from?
@TheBoxysolution
@TheBoxysolution 12 жыл бұрын
I'm just happy to be able to use that quote. It's one of my favourites.
@PathologicallySane
@PathologicallySane 12 жыл бұрын
It's easy for the brain because it makes people feel good. Whether it's a load a crap or not, it helps some people cope with reality.
@CatcherInTheFry
@CatcherInTheFry 12 жыл бұрын
lol about all of you argueing about religeon. you know what i got from this video? the human brain is fucking awesome.
@mattbabb.
@mattbabb. 2 жыл бұрын
According to it ;)
@templecharas
@templecharas 12 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THE IDEA...when i first mediated ..i never felt how powerful our breath was....
@Keijikrall
@Keijikrall 12 жыл бұрын
From what I gathered, the idea was that because so much of our brain works in tandem when we're having a "spiritual experience" that is appears to be hard wired. I'd say that, yes, it does, but it doesn't mean we're hard wired to it, it just means we can have that reaction when we're having one of those experiences. Hard to follow because I just woke up and he keeps going into tangents.
@sirstudious177
@sirstudious177 12 жыл бұрын
Something the video (and to a larger extent some comments) made me think about was the social influence that religions have on us, namely their ability to clump and split people. We seem to be inherently afraid or suspect of anything different from us (i.e. different skin color, language, ideology, sports team) and can commonly point at these differences as an excuse to exploit a certain group in some way. Could this influence the development and adoption of religion in any way? Just a thought.
@ShadowwwLFS
@ShadowwwLFS 12 жыл бұрын
It's great to see that you care. Thanks for caring.
@CaptainBuggyTheClown
@CaptainBuggyTheClown 11 жыл бұрын
We are all lower states of reality as a whole. As a collective our observation of acknowledgement of our environment and a species as of now and what we were before and to become in the future is all a collective a subset of many sets of a higher thought clarity perspective until you "think" as "god" I suppose.
@bestrongandloveyourself2370
@bestrongandloveyourself2370 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! ☺️🥰❤️💖
@LifeNotRules
@LifeNotRules 12 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you, but can we just forget that for five minutes and open our minds to his idea, wether we agree or not?
@blainealexander
@blainealexander 12 жыл бұрын
This was a quote right from the the same section where you got yours. He is expressing his concern because the other test didn't take any of those into account when they did the test in 2008 or when they did the one with countries. Which would mess up the results of the research they did.
@christopherhenley9160
@christopherhenley9160 7 жыл бұрын
Certainly a general answer to a large question. Fascinating...
@markitymark90
@markitymark90 12 жыл бұрын
That's a myopic way to look at these things. Other psychologists and neuroscientists agree that these types of 'hallucinations' have serious implications in philosophy, consciousness, and other fields that ask all the 'big' questions such as the nature of reality and so forth.
@maurieer
@maurieer 12 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Your statement was well thought out.
@passthebreadsauce
@passthebreadsauce 12 жыл бұрын
Furthermore, like you said, if you look at the definitions of "mystical experiences" they are all similar. Including feelings of oneness and understanding. But let's look at that in another light: everyone's cold is much the same (sniffles, cough, phlegm), people with anxiety are nervous or have panic attacks, schizophrenics may speak with invisible people, arthritis makes your bones and joints hurts. Everyone who has these shares the traits with everyone else--because it has a cause.
@ronnie2b
@ronnie2b 12 жыл бұрын
well said!
@MrAlecaf
@MrAlecaf 12 жыл бұрын
wow the philosophical pondering to this question.. excellent comment
@markitymark90
@markitymark90 12 жыл бұрын
There we go, then the mystical experience is just as valid as any other experience but the fact still stands, it still has a profound impact on human consciousness, and is an important part in human history.
@ravikgpiit
@ravikgpiit 8 жыл бұрын
i was looking for the answer for so long
@jessicastrat9376
@jessicastrat9376 5 жыл бұрын
He seems to miss what to me appears to be the conclusion of most evolutionary biologists and evo psychologists - that belief in god is not an adaptation, but a byproduct of other useful adaptations and cognitive biases, like the theory of mind, and the leaning towards type 1 errors, and ‘patterniserty’
@gravityvertigo13579
@gravityvertigo13579 12 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha very bold choice, presenting the religious explanation as equivalent to the scientific one. Also, meditation; defragging for your brain? I can dig it.
@Willbail1
@Willbail1 12 жыл бұрын
We are only hardwired to look for answers, it is only recently that we can finally answer the big questions with god.
@thecaveoawesomeness
@thecaveoawesomeness 12 жыл бұрын
It was a good video. Too many of you pay attention to the God aspect of it. Through the connections we make in our brains any and all ideas can be reinforced . That in itself is thought provoking! The whole mediation part was spot on too. We all need time to just breathe as life passes by. Lately I have been thinking about how our life is infinitely small in comparison to that of the universe ( which is not a bad thing all the time but it's getting too much), all I need to do is just breathe.
@djm5699
@djm5699 8 ай бұрын
Too many people DONT pay attention to the God aspect (spiritual aspect) of how the brain works and changes. Life is about being reconciled to God. Through faith by grace, through Jesus to God.
@ariasalis86
@ariasalis86 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Newberg is, definitely, one the best.
@Josephdaniel19
@Josephdaniel19 12 жыл бұрын
Seems you're on the right track after all. Just open yourself up to these wonderful beliefs and you'll be so much happier!
@WarMasterX6
@WarMasterX6 12 жыл бұрын
Very true
@TheJoker-wr1cp
@TheJoker-wr1cp Жыл бұрын
Bad argument,if our aim was just to survive what would be the point in us becoming self aware enough to not want too
@douggolden255
@douggolden255 Жыл бұрын
I think it's more likely that we're hardwired to find explanations for things we don't understand. The easier the explanation, the more palatable it is to a wider range of people. True understanding of what is happening, in a scientific sense, is more like studying. And who wants to do that? Or has the time? If the simplest explanation is constantly reinforced within a community, god becomes their "science."
@Yogi-Koala-Bear
@Yogi-Koala-Bear 7 ай бұрын
Great stuff. I think Nirvana and Enlightenment experiences are an immune response, possibly some sort of biochemical cascade involving the endocrine, nervous and immune systems, in response to psychological or physical crisis. My organic chemistry lecturer at university did research into the tears of joy and sadness and their effect on the immune system.
@passthebreadsauce
@passthebreadsauce 12 жыл бұрын
No. I'll put it like this: the brain is not a receiver--it's function is not to receive signals and energies floating around in the air. The brain is a processing unit. Our brain is designed to take in the world, compute it so that it fits our experiences, and then relay it to our consciousness. What I'm saying is, all that you experience is a direct result of your brain and nothing else. You can ask philosophical questions about phenomenon, but unless you understandWHY they happen,it'suseless.
@ndmoldenhauer
@ndmoldenhauer 12 жыл бұрын
Actually a few months ago they debunked this because too many parts of a the brain were working during religion that pointed to the fact that there is no specific part of the brain "designed" for religion.
@Akoalawithshades
@Akoalawithshades 12 жыл бұрын
I was raised in a secular family, living in the UK, and I never made up a religion or what not, in fact I was completely unaware of religion until the last years of primary school, and even after that I never thought about it.
@markitymark90
@markitymark90 12 жыл бұрын
To further clarify what a mystical/spiritual experience is, go on wikipedia and search for: Oceanic Feeling, Mystical experiences Classical Definition. All mystical experiences are almost alike, no matter what a persons background is and where they came from. The common things in a mystical experience is the feeling of unity, oneness, and the sense of tapping into a ultimate reality that's more real than this one.
@Aljabarty92
@Aljabarty92 10 жыл бұрын
What exactly is the next task at hand??????
@prole1917
@prole1917 12 жыл бұрын
The question is, if you raised a child with no religious exposure, would most of them just spontaneously develop religious beliefs and ideas? I don't think so. I believe that religion is much more of a cultural and societal phenomenon than a biological one
@cammyjeee
@cammyjeee 12 жыл бұрын
There's a Newberg in town, and this time it's personal. Andy Newberg in... The Bergertons, coming this summer to a derp near you, rated pg-13
@Trademen100
@Trademen100 12 жыл бұрын
interesting video, not sure I agree 100% with what he's saying. But that's why I subbed to this channel.
@tomarundi
@tomarundi 11 жыл бұрын
great vid!
@thecowboy2541
@thecowboy2541 3 жыл бұрын
How
@SirNegator
@SirNegator 11 жыл бұрын
What i learned: Work out and Meditate. NOW!
@boobookitty4201
@boobookitty4201 3 жыл бұрын
and eat healthy
@angiekrajewski6419
@angiekrajewski6419 4 жыл бұрын
When you mention breathing...well i think maybe that the fact of breathing could be like activating the fire with blowing wind on to it..our cells are full if electricity that could be compared as fire ..breathing activates this « fire » that is inside each cell ..as a matter of fact by doing these exercices of breathing ..it activates « all » ..our ..body .,while activating our cells then makes our blood get richer in oxygen and in turn contributes to make the nuclear Plant work better...which in turn..makes the cell work a lot quicker and better ..and by doing this makes our telomeres get stronger at their ends which in turn makes us feel younger ..and in turn makes us live longer in good shape......, ....this had to be said... cause everything in life and under the sun..is connected one way or another... Takako Ishikawa said...,Listening a hundred times is not worth’ what one glimpse can do. ..
@trenchcoatvloggs
@trenchcoatvloggs 12 жыл бұрын
i honestly think its there in our brains as a mechanism for hope, we seem to be a species than can think beyond ourselves, beyond our limitations as well as past whatever doom and gloom our natural world can throw at us and still find something to be hopeful about. i find religion at times to be pompous as it serves to further the thought we are better or special compared to anything else that is on the planet. either way the thoughts are not wrong just maybe not force it on each other??
@CigaretteScars
@CigaretteScars 12 жыл бұрын
3:55 who else took a deep breath? I know you did.
@marksusskind1260
@marksusskind1260 Ай бұрын
We don't have much control outside our bodies, so focus on the inside, improve our reactions. We could do this alone, in small groups, or in larger groups. It may even work better as groups so we could exchange feedback.
@Mastocat
@Mastocat 12 жыл бұрын
Satin is nice but I don't see why a fabric would have that many likes.
@teammixplate
@teammixplate 12 жыл бұрын
I would like to see this guys studies on papers along with his demographics. i doubt he get the same religious activity in the brain from someone in the east vs the west. i would also like to know his definition of religious/spiritual interaction and how is that studied via neuroscience. i truely believe hes seeing what he wants to see in his studies.
@FutureAIDev2015
@FutureAIDev2015 6 жыл бұрын
This is incredible!
@SwamiTripurariBV
@SwamiTripurariBV 11 жыл бұрын
Mystical traditions in India answer this question slightly differently. They say that all life is consciousness, not matter. Relative to the strength of consciousness' misidentification with matter, nature awards one a suitable form. The human faculties are special owing to the relatively greater detachment of consciousness from its misidentification with matter, which allows one sufficient 'distance' from matter so as to pursue a meaning to one's existence. -SwamiTripurari moderator
@Ignorantf00l
@Ignorantf00l 12 жыл бұрын
Why so much dislike? It's a very objective talk...
@iGeeeked
@iGeeeked 12 жыл бұрын
My exact thought, sir/ma'am.
@derlumpenhund
@derlumpenhund 12 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Also, thanks for boiling down my comment to the main idea :D
@Scribemo
@Scribemo 12 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about this video, or a reply to this video? If you're talking about this video: he was talking about how religion is hard-wired into our brain, how it's been very important in our history, and how certain aspects that arose from it (prayer/meditation) can be used to calm and rejuvenate people.
@francemaster
@francemaster 12 жыл бұрын
I don't smoke weed. I realize it might seem obscure, but as you've pointed out, it has to do with changing consciousness. Haven't you ever felt like there are people, not linked with power, but true, honest, people, that show in their daily life a different mind, an enlightened mind? You see they understand that death is, like birth, part of the circle of life. Like eternal life, to "believe" that we are just a separate entity, is very much a dogma also.
@HigherThanTrump
@HigherThanTrump 12 жыл бұрын
By the way, Ivan Bunny, let me clarify before we get in to an argument where one isn't due. By spiritual I don't mean talking to spirits, in another "plane of existence" like the shamans claimed to do. I just mean spiritual in the sense of loving your family, love for your hobbies, to look at nature and be moved in awe, as a few examples.
@oEQjet
@oEQjet 12 жыл бұрын
3:50 what he's trying to say is that you are now breathing manually.
@Leonar12345
@Leonar12345 12 жыл бұрын
i kept restarting the video because my mind is just completely somewhere else right now
@JweezyU2B
@JweezyU2B 12 жыл бұрын
Leaders are people who dare to move into unproven and uncharted territory. That requires faith. People who say things like "There is no God" or "I don't believe in any higher consciousness" are really saying "I'm a follower" because the things you do believe were taught to you by someone who you respect who believed enough to go find out.
@juanherrera7808
@juanherrera7808 3 жыл бұрын
Andrew b newberg is a genius i first heard about him in the film What the bleep do we know he was so eye opening in that film about quantum physics. He is truly a believer. I thank god that i was able to listen and learn from this amazing man he is a genius... Thank GOD....!
@CrAzYcArNiE08
@CrAzYcArNiE08 12 жыл бұрын
That's talking about catholic (which is Christian). I am simply stating that we should not deny God. That we as a people who are capable of making choices are making poor ones. There is more evil than good out there. I really love that quote that I wrote simply because the more I get replies against everything, the more it proves itself true.
@ENEMYofBeezulbul
@ENEMYofBeezulbul Жыл бұрын
worked out for me instantly!
@MrSkinnynerd03
@MrSkinnynerd03 12 жыл бұрын
to answer your question is it does work. my parents started going to church less and less, started to not believe in the things that they were said within their church, and though they still have ties it is far from were they once were, also according to your thinking "mocking a cripple would forcibly make that cripple's belief change, therefore it would force that cripple to believe he could walk, if he thought of his disability differently" and yes Religion is a disability.
@passthebreadsauce
@passthebreadsauce 12 жыл бұрын
It is mere hallucination. The spectacle that people put upon it, and the way that it moves them, is what makes it "mystical". I, even with my skeptical nature, still indulge in "spiritual" pleasures, except I recognize them as they are: chemical reactions--neurotransmitters evoking wonderful highs. People have a bone to pick with materialism but I can write a novel about how beautiful it makes the universe. Just because it can be explained doesn't make the phenomenon less wonderful.
@francemaster
@francemaster 12 жыл бұрын
Our modern society has many advantages, but we, all of us, must understand that to "behave" it's not to summit into order, it is done out of compassion, as well as the rational understanding of the nature of reality. The peaceful coexistence in this life can be helped and informed by every religious tradition. Just look at the christian social organizations. I'm not one of them, but I'm able to see their job in Africa, India, and everywhere else shows not chains, but true, responsible freedom.
@MrMartinBigger
@MrMartinBigger 12 жыл бұрын
the whole basis of science is that " i dont know" so im gunna try to find out and back up my findings with valid answers. where as religious is " i pretend to know or think that i know everything" and there is no need for more information.
@SCWoodbury2009
@SCWoodbury2009 12 жыл бұрын
I think "god"/religion is hardwired in our brains because religion in the early part of the human experience was a means to explain the unknown. To make sence of the mysteries of life. Religion was also used as a means to organize a communitiy of people (tribes) through law and culture. And religion was used to deal with death. As the human species evolved, science, philosophy, and secular law has come to repalce and better explain and serve our human existence on this planet than religion has.
@mokuho
@mokuho 6 ай бұрын
How many minutes we must meditate daily?😢
@the_Success_Experiments
@the_Success_Experiments 3 ай бұрын
At least once a day and for at least 60 seconds
@the_Success_Experiments
@the_Success_Experiments 3 ай бұрын
How are you coping
@jfklimek
@jfklimek 12 жыл бұрын
So how doesn't the question or concern in this video go from our brains being hardwired or not for belief in God, to techniques of meditation? What does concentrating on breathing have to do with contemplations of God? And why did Newberg accumulate this topic with a method in relieving the daily stresses of life? What's that have to do with the brain being hardwired for God or not?
@serioussamp
@serioussamp 12 жыл бұрын
As an atheist with a particular interest - no training however - in the brain and evolution specifically relating to the evolution of artificial intelligence I have often wondered whether we have actually evolved to be "spiritual". You say that we are wired for logic and reason but I'm not sure that is entirely true. The way I see it we are wired to survive, and sometimes the best chances of survival come from being irrational at the cost of something less valuable to evolution than survival.
@passthebreadsauce
@passthebreadsauce 12 жыл бұрын
Epistemology may be a bit of a headache for people but that fact does not dismiss it's necessity. We assume everything is false, and we test to verify whether or not there is truth. Once again, I'm not dismissing the benefits of spirituality, nor it's "universal human experience"; I'm dismissing sets of belief based on accounts that were not first falsified or verified.
@markitymark90
@markitymark90 12 жыл бұрын
Well, you just proved it yourself, mystical experience not mere hallucination but a real phenomena.
@msizzzle
@msizzzle 12 жыл бұрын
The ability to even create a religious institution is predicated on the brain's complexity and ability to take experience or participate in religious activity. Without the complexity and capabilities of the human brain, which was determined through evolution, we would never have been able to reason, rationalize, socialize, etc. let alone create a religious institution. The phenomenon of religious, especially the dogmatic aspects, arose from our brain rather than evolved simultaneously with it.
@markitymark90
@markitymark90 12 жыл бұрын
You may find pleasure and security through having all the answers but I find mine through the sheer mystery. Beyond all the answers lie even more questions. "The fool thinks himself to be wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool."
@MEGABUMSTENCH
@MEGABUMSTENCH 12 жыл бұрын
Well if you think of popular, you usually think of someone who is loved
@francemaster
@francemaster 12 жыл бұрын
and totalitarianism as a consequence of modern rationality applied for irrational greed and hate, there is not even a shadow of doubt that our evils cannot be so easily excused by a single factor, as religion. Something deeper moves, it’s dark, it’s horrible, and it is inside all of us as long as we don’t learn to respect each other. You and me are also that kind of species, and so, I consider it a must to respect those kind of religious people that preach compassion and peace.
@Hematite1000
@Hematite1000 12 жыл бұрын
Another point: Humans are naturally curious creatures, we generally find basic enjoyment in understanding the things around us. Gods and religions usually answer a lot of very profound questions. So, perhaps our brains aren't wired for God and religion, but God and religion are wired for our brains?
@mysund
@mysund 6 жыл бұрын
The brain is hardwired to imagine other beings (humans/predatory animals) watching you. That is normal state of paranioal preparedness that makes better suited in a hostile (natural) environment with predators and hostile tribes. Religion thrives on this mechanism, and the feeling of guilt, and being watched or watched over is part of that. If you add some of the well known personality disorder signs of externalizing internal involuntary produced thoughtmaterial, basically hallucinations, you have a profet. Nowadays we threat these side effects with medication, sometimes with success, sometimes not.
@8jb65
@8jb65 12 жыл бұрын
Well, the inevitable hijacking of this post for God/Atheist debates aside, Can someone please explain to me how meditation can increase the effectiveness of the brain? I think Mr. Newberg here makes some kind of assumption in his argument that I didn't catch, and I'd like to think it is more nuanced than "if you're programmed for spirituality, then meditation is effective"; which seems to lack evidence.
@coreoveride
@coreoveride 12 жыл бұрын
No they are completely different activities though the process may be similar. Prayer is an externally focused activity where Meditation is an internal activity hence why we have two different words to differentiate the two activities. There are other differences however I would like to keep the meta-physical, philosophical, and religious comparisons out of this discussion.
@xi399x
@xi399x 12 жыл бұрын
Not on KZfaq. I can count on one hand the number of descent conversations I have ever had on this website.
@jeusmarcomascarina4102
@jeusmarcomascarina4102 Жыл бұрын
The problem is we cannot make idea as long it doesn't exist in the beginning. Because the force in star wars is just riff of magical levitation and force field. So religion exist because there is something real exist to identify. We can't identity and think about something doesn't exist but can imagine it the way we understand it. That is why we got differ in idea like religion we didn't meet the real one. But we heard the idea that they exist.
@gusmore26
@gusmore26 Жыл бұрын
"I once took a radio apart and discovered that there are no 'talk show hosts', their 'guests', nor 'callers-in', it's just that the radio is hardwired to make it seem as if they exist." - Gus More
@TomorrowsDan
@TomorrowsDan 12 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone was making the claim that meditation in its self is proof of God. In fact looking for a strictly Christian standpoint, every instance in the bible where it talks about meditation is referring to deep thinking or critical thinking on a matter or subject what have you. As far as evidence goes if you are really looking for some Jeremiah 29:13 says, “‘And YOU will actually seek me and find [me], for YOU will search for me with all YOUR heart." Do you want evidence?
@JweezyU2B
@JweezyU2B 12 жыл бұрын
Thats interesting. My intention was never to belittle anything, certainly not the scientific method. I asked the question about how you chose which science to "believe" because the sciences have since proven many things once labeled as purely religious. The notion that these findings didn't exist or the people that believed them based on senses (not yet understood by science) doesn't mean those people were "buffoons" as you say. It means that the scientific method is among many avenues truth.
@sheydeebaby
@sheydeebaby 12 жыл бұрын
I think you need to re-watch the video, he said it could be one of the theories as to how religion is hardwired into our brains. And he never said anything about Evolution not being real. 0:39 is where he says the scientist would say Evolution, and the Religious would say it came because god made ways for people to communicate with them. There was never talk of either being correct. What he did say though, was that things that are repeated get written into the brain.
@dw2650
@dw2650 12 жыл бұрын
I personally agree with some anthropologists who say that the brain has adapted to spirituality. The brain has evolved from way early man into the higher level thinking beings we are today mainly because of we have ingested certain plants along the way that have forced us to question our very existence. This ingestion and subsequent new levels of "dreaming" forced our brains to enlarge. This is why we have multiple levels and multiple areas in the brain. Recently laws now prohibit these plants.
@trollbutterfly
@trollbutterfly 12 жыл бұрын
I almost questioned this legitimately, but realised you're a creationist, so you take every word, every name written at face value. Shazzang.
@killercow91
@killercow91 12 жыл бұрын
It takes a lot of faith in "human" knowledge to disregard possibilities that things we do not understand also do not exist. We have too much pride as a species.
@markitymark90
@markitymark90 12 жыл бұрын
I wonder what you mean by "false knowledge", that just gets us lost in the field of epistemology which is a bit of a headache. To assume that these experiences as false does not get us closer to any answer or truth. And also one shouldn't attach the spiritual experience to any religious dogma or belief. I'm talking about the pure ground of experience which all religions have sprung out. It's a very universal experience- a very human experience that may be built into our very neurons.
@williamwells1862
@williamwells1862 3 жыл бұрын
Does standing on your head imrove your brain? Staridng at stop signs can improve your concentration.
@E.B.J.S.
@E.B.J.S. 12 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@markitymark90
@markitymark90 12 жыл бұрын
So from your point of view all experience is hallucination as well, so why differ from a spiritual one? Just because an experience can be proved through material phenomena still doesn't answer any of the philosophical or metaphysical questions that are raised because if it!
@blainealexander
@blainealexander 12 жыл бұрын
"Professor Gordon Lynch, from London's Birkbeck College, expressed concern that the study failed to take into account a complex range of social, economic and historical factors- each of which has been shown to interact with religion and IQ in different ways."
@wickerspin1119
@wickerspin1119 12 жыл бұрын
I really don't know how to respond to that.
@georgegrubbs2966
@georgegrubbs2966 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew is using the common tags put on certain inner mental perceptions, that is, religious or spiritual experiences. I understand why this particular brain activity was so labelled; it was because the experiences were so extraordinary and different from common thought and imagination. Current neuroscience research has uncovered that there isn't anything magical or supernatural about these subjective experiences. They have even found that stimulation in certain brain areas can produce similar experiences. This whole area of false belief follows the historical trend of humans ascribing unusual personal experiences and also fearful natural phenomena to God or gods. Science over time reveals the natural truth.
@Xenkenito
@Xenkenito 12 жыл бұрын
Religion is the result of fear of the unknown, we are afraid of what we do not understand and so out of an angst/anxiety about not knowing, we create and imagine the answers i.e. religion/theory and then live in a state of denial about religion/theory. The question for mankind in these turbulent socioeconomically and profoundly technological times is : Do we wage war with nature (like Monsanto and Co.) or do we commune with nature (like natives and Amish)?
@JweezyU2B
@JweezyU2B 12 жыл бұрын
Whether you are a part of a religion or not. If you don't believe in anything (whether it be God or anything at all), who or what do you follow and how do you decide? Everyone theorizes on things before they can know for sure. It takes people who believe in something unknown and unproven before something can be proven. This is what drives us forward as a species. Its so popular these days to bash religion because religion is only shown in its most extreme judgmental examples.
@PhoenixOlivia
@PhoenixOlivia 12 жыл бұрын
The only thing I got out of this video is to meditate.
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