Rhonda Ray ! YES! A Terrible loss of a Wonderful talent. I pray that joy may come to your day remembering his voice. love

And Glenn Quinn who played Doyle also passed away in 2002 from a heroin overdose. He was 32 when he died.

Cause Sarah and David don't give a shit

@@spikesecho724 I’m crying 🤣🤣🤣

@@spikesecho724 I think Sarah does. David definitely doesn't.

He is kinda vain and doesn’t like for his fans to see how he aged

Lol the guy was probably busy - no stress

@@creepydoll8351 lol it's not that. David was busy filming for his new series Seal Team at the time. David probably has had the most successful career out of all the buffy/ angel cast. Plus, David has aged really well. He's just a little more built and filed out now.

He was filming seal team and bones. His plate was full. He did a outstanding job as the MAIN PROTAGONIST OF The show Angel

Clare Kramer (glory from Buffy) is an excellent moderator at panels

@@solasauto I mean calling someone fat, cause they pregnant? That's not cool, I don't care if it's true. Besides, what business is that of Joss Whedon's? Oh, it put a damper on his plans for Season 4 of Angel? Tough shit! Ya ruined Cordy, ya ass! For what? To assert dominance? And she even had to work pregnant, and it was strongly recommended that she didn't. Just sayin', she got a good reason to be pissed. As far as canon goes, Cordelia was probably the one character who coulda saved Team Angel, as you can see how quickly it fell apart without her. Fred died and a demon wears her face now, Gunn basically got clapped, Wesley is dead, and Lorne is gone forever. Just sayin', I think Cordelia either would've told Angel that going to Wolfram and Hart was a stupid ass idea, and maybe everyone wouldn't have died (but Connor would still be acting like a ham sandwich)

@@shady_the_one AGREED

Was it true that she kept her pregnancy hidden until the last possible second?

@@shady_the_one Plus him creating such a toxic work environment with pitting them against each other. Good riddance to him. Charisma Carpenter seems to be such a lovely woman. I really admire her.

@@oldhollywoodfan8009 yeah. She kinda reminds me of my aunt

Time stamp?

57:35

Mike she’s married

You’re 17 years too late buddy

Joss fired her for getting pregnant as much as I love the work he did with Angel and Buffy that move he did to Charisma was terrible .

Well she did get the 100th episode and it was an AWESOME 45 minutes. Sadly though, it was originally supposed to go to buffy

@@user-fe1le2yl3x i think James said something about that Joss had to fire Charisma, because they couldn’t pay James enough, therefore they fired her, and was able to pay James more. (:

That would have been hilarious

@@solasauto You mean "The Destructor"? :)

Now is a great time to watch them. My wife and I just finished all 7 seasons of Buffy and 5 of Angel. It had been years since I'd last seen them and they are all on HULU now. Two amazing shows that are just as good as they were over 20 years ago.

There is NO I IN team. Just because David wasn't there EVERYONE ELSE was. David has a career and has never struggled to find work. He's not stopped since starring in Buffy. It's been Buffy Angel Bones Seal Team.

Doesnt she also say season 4 is her favourite when she mentions Spin the bottle?

@@ndjxisjenxjix9525 UH HUMMMMM lol

Wesley wasnt really a watcher in Angel. More a co conspirator researcher behind the scenes person. Not specifically watcher. But yeah, transformation was brilliant from buffy to amgel. Good progression for the character.

Why....would Spike be the lord of the underworld?? Besides, the shanshu was about Spike, so he'd probably be human.

​@@spikesecho724 I'm pretty sure he's referring to the Angel: After The Fall comics, which Joss co-plotted with Brian Lynch. They used several of the planned season 6 concepts, and are (more or less?) as canonical as Dark Horse's BtVS season 8+. (Lynchy was an excellent addition to the writing crew; check out the IDW Spike "on-going" [cut off when all canon migrated to Dark Horse] for, among other things, a perfect capturing of the voice of Lilah Morgan.)

@Raghu Seetharaman: You leave out of Dotrice's past history, a pretty large resume which particularly includes a history of playing "fathers", from the prominent role of Vincent's "Father" on the several season-long CBS live-action drama Beauty and the Beast, to his playing Father Barrett, the town's Catholic priest who turns out to have a human foible in the form of a footwear fetish, in fifteen episodes of Picket Fences.

@@lkw7482 Yes I know all that starring Ron Perlman and Linda Hamilton.

Angel ended abruptly and kind of cliffhangerish. I want a buffy movie. It would obviously be rewritten for movie length rather than tv series. People so closed minded about a buffy movie. It would work if you have the relevant themes of each series developed within movie context. Why are people closed minded about that?

@@mishswb4950 I think it's because Buffy's story ended, and it ended the right way while Angel's story didn't end the right way, it's what you said it ended abruptly.

That's just messed up. I'm given to understand that you could get custom action figures for Gunn, but no mainline figures. But yeah, if they were going to do the cast of Angel set, Gunn should've been there from the get-go.

@@Albukhshi I remember writing the toy company directly and was told by them that they didnt make Gunn figures because...and I quote: "He's not a main character", despite he made his first appearences in season one and was a regular for the rest of the series. They also didnt explain why they made multiple variants of characters like Fred and Lorne and they joined later.

@@maximusprime3459 Yeah, I'm smelling bullshit with that excuse of theirs.

@@Albukhshi I wish I'd saved the emails because I had a back and forth with that toy company's rep. Every time they gave suspect 'dodge the bullet' reasons why a Charles Gunn figure wasn't produced. Eventually they stopped replying to my messages.

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To be fair, I think she meant that it elevated her character allowing Cordelia to grow and her to raise her game as an actress. It didn't sound great though. According to David Fury who wrote and directed 'You're Welcome' both her and David Boreanaz broke down several times while filming the scene where they watched Doyle's video.

@@GUV85 Yeah i agree it doesn't sound to great I could imagine it's crazy the impact glen quinn had for just being in only 9 episodes, he really had talent to shine as much as he did. Thanks for the response it's always nice to hear peoples opinions on it and the things that happened, i would have broke up watching the video i did kind of break up just watching the episode lol, but ya hopefully charisma didn't mean it in the way i am thinking. That first season was so special, going to have to rerun it.

It did sound harsh but I really think she meant that it showed the high stakes of the show and it allowed her character to get deeper storylines.

I'm so gutted that Doyle died, I much preferred season one to the later seasons when it got really dark

@@zoeyx9821 same here zoey i loved doyle and season 1 for me was just great, enjoyed wesley coming into it too. I remember watching it on tv at the time lol was so hyped as a kid.

I can only assume he was filming Seal Team or something.

@@Neurodivergent-j1f Yeah, he came for the other one, probably just busy when this one happened

It's isn't all about David. There are 5 other extremely talented cast members besides him. They can be enjoyed with or without him, it's a team not just oh David

as someone currently on their third rewatch of the series (halfway through season 4!) i don't have an issue with _how_ cordelia's character is written, having known lots of different people throughout my life who shared cordelia's duality of being a clever airhead. there are many types of intelligence so it makes sense that a person can be simultaneously smart and stupid, it just depends on what you're talking about! my wonderful life partner has some seriously enviable problem-solving skills that make him a whiz at fixing all manner of things, but he's a bit of a spacecase where common sense is concerned. an example of this was when we were both still awake after midnight and he asked for the time, so i told him "it's 1" to which he replied, "o'clock?" he does stuff like this a lot and i find it silly and endearing! my issues lie with _how often_ cordelia's character is written into the show, which is to say not very often at all! there aren't many places a character can go if they don't have the screen time required, which makes for a rather undeveloped and thus uninteresting character. now i'm biased because i love buffy cordelia almost-but-still-not-quite as much as i love angel cordelia (pre-s4 lmao) but my bias did make me realize how badly i wanted more cordy on buffy! so much so that even though i only planned on rewatching buffy, i just had to scratch the itch and give angel another rewatch too in order to get my queen cordy fix. :') i think they knew what they wanted to do with cordelia's characterization but they didn't quite know how to fit that into the show's dynamic or where to go with her - especially after her and xander (thankfully) fizzled out - because a lot of what made people love cordy on angel already existed when she was on buffy; her ability to switch from aloof snark mode to selfless understanding when the moment called for it, or the unwavering confidence she had in herself no matter the odds. rewatching the two shows concurrently makes for a very satisfying watch with regards to her character arc because her progression feels logical and natural, at least to me anyway!

There needs to be some kind of limited series with all of them together 😊 They still have sooo much chemistry together 😊

I think he was filming Seal Team during this one. He came for a different one

You TEAM SPIKE loudmouths is probably why he doesn't make the effort anymore!

Cradle-robbing? How old do you think Fred was supposed to be? Lilah was fun and the relationship with Wesley was definitely interesting, but he was always in love with Fred so it's not like that came out of nowhere. Fred and Gunn felt more forced to me. Not much chemistry.

@@ScreamWright Don't care, she had underage-energy and I always found it creepy

And proud of it.