Angels and Demons in Orthodox Christianity (w/

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How do angelic beings experience time? Why did the Devil tempt mankind into turning from God? The Orthodox Christian tradition provides illuminating answers to these questions.
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@stephenkocoski8205
@stephenkocoski8205 8 ай бұрын
My brother in Christ Thank you so much for the Orthodox content Great work God bless
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 7 ай бұрын
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
@mrpsclas
@mrpsclas 8 ай бұрын
I’ve felt like for decades that Eve’s first mistake (the root of the fall) was in losing faith in God’s words. She chose instead to listen to and believe the Serpent, and her own discernment and desires. Likewise with Adam, except that he was convinced only after hearing what Eve had to say. I’m open to what all of you have to say on this. I may or not respond to your replies.
@naikhanomtom7552
@naikhanomtom7552 2 ай бұрын
Recently discovered your channel when you had Jonathan Pageau on. Ive been binge watching and you have some Great content. Thank you.
@Muself2
@Muself2 8 ай бұрын
❤ Glory to God so I can hear from you.
@algotrobertsson8721
@algotrobertsson8721 8 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@johnnytass2111
@johnnytass2111 8 ай бұрын
Telosbound, this was a comment i made on one of your other videos about the death of God and the Reformation: Telosbound, proufoundly insightful. If the Schism was the death of the Holy Spirit, and the Reformation was the death of the Son, then the death of the Father comes next, so where/how do you envision this final death of the Holy Trinity within humanity? Is it the sacrifice of man to an Intelligence of Artifice (AI), as in the sacrifice of man to man's knowledge (fully consumed by the a Tree of Knowledge when man fully rejects the Tree of Life)? Thus paving the way for the AntiChrist and then the Second Coming of Christ?
@trollsneedhugs
@trollsneedhugs 8 ай бұрын
Fascinating thought.
@johnnytass2111
@johnnytass2111 8 ай бұрын
@@markpatterson2517 Thank you for that perspective. The death of the Church within humanity would be humanity fully turning away from God and losing Communion with God (loss of the Holy Trinity) and each other. Both metaphors lend an understanding to our current tragic trajectory. I have heard that the largest and fastest growing Religion is the Religion of Narcissism, since it is not heirarchical but vertically networked. The obsession of self-reflection is the Ouroboros of Hell that telosbound expounds upon. Be blessed on your journey.
@irisenamorado
@irisenamorado 6 ай бұрын
Great content.
@Kolious_Thrace
@Kolious_Thrace 7 ай бұрын
Something more about the Angels. •The Angels are spirits, they don’t have material hypostasis. They were created before the us-humans. Before God was born as human on Earth Angels couldn’t see Him! They felt His holy presence, they were “bathed” in His light and glory! They could feel Him but they couldn’t see Him! They were praising and loving something they couldn’t see but only feel. Angels are more powerful and fast compared to humans. They existed beyond sin… etc But compared to God they are also powerless and slow. When God took human form, the human hypostasis they saw Him for the first time! I don’t remember now but one Father said that when Theotokos gave birth to Christ the whole Sky came down to Earth! The whole Heavenly Armies came down to see Gos for the first time in their existence! And of course each one saw Him differently, depending on his/hers spiritual status! Theotokos was seeing Him differently than the Angels, who saw Him differently than the shepherds… • The humans are made based on the image of God. I’m not saying it with ignorance and pride but we have something that Angels don’t have! We can reach a level so close to God. Also, only Humans have the authority to forgive sins. This authority is given to certain priests not to everyone. When we confess, that priest has the authority for God to forgive our sins in His name. Angels don’t have that power! Angels cannot experience and feel like us… God made it that way, we have to confess to a human because he can feel our passion and temptation. An angel can’t! •Demons have incredible powers too! They are still angels, dark spirits that fell from Grace and they are away of God’s Light. They can predict the near future, they are not like God whom known everything! They can see the near future and tempt the humans! They give powers to those people predict the future, they come in contact with demons. A monk in the Mt. Athos told us once that even one demon have the power to destroy the Earth from its core! But why he doesn’t do it? Because God doesn’t allow it!
@Budalaaaaaa
@Budalaaaaaa 7 ай бұрын
How much is "near future" and would they know EXACTLY what would happen with some human being ( let's say 4 years in advamce ) without failing single thing in that time period?
@Kolious_Thrace
@Kolious_Thrace 7 ай бұрын
@@Budalaaaaaa we cannot say one month or one year or 3 years. Demons can know some things thy are about to happen to us but they don’t know everything like God! Also, the demons cannot read our minds, they don’t know what we are thinking and what we are about to do. God knows everything, what we are thinking, what we are going to do… etc demons don’t!
@Budalaaaaaa
@Budalaaaaaa 7 ай бұрын
@@Kolious_Thrace I am familiar with all you have said, but I do think demons are prone to error, so they can't know things for sure that "will happen", some things yes because they are repeating (like sins), or they can "fix" things to happen or rather manipulate events to happen. But, they can't know will those events go as they plan, sometimes yes ( by God's permission), sometimes no, so they can't be sure. They can't read minds but they certainly are very good observers, pattern knowers. So my conclusion is they can't know future at all, they can only guess it with some success, much of the time with no success at all, by contrast angels also do not know it, but to them it is given in Revelation, like for instance when Gabriel is telling Theotokos that she will give birth to Lord. That thing Gabriel couldn't know by himself, or couldn't even concive such a thing in his mind, I would say that he/they were shaken to the core by what was Revealed to them. To demons nothing is given, only existence (miserable) by His mercy.
@natanaellizama6559
@natanaellizama6559 7 ай бұрын
How could one reject God wirh full knowledge? The rejection is an act and all acts are motivated. All motivation has as a formal orientation the Good. It logically follows that no one could deny God in its fullness for that would be to deny God's Goodness in full. That would be to reject the Good by seeking the Good. It can only be done in ignorance by not knowing that what one is rejecting is what one is seeking
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