The battle reports keep getting better! I love how the tournament format brings in a dimension of pressure.

Glad you enjoyed it!

So happy to see Easterlings at all, let alone doing well!

@@MarshalHopalop Jordy is the easterling man

true, that felt a little lazy. With that ammount of chariots in the army a small 3" gauge aswell as a 45° tool should be in place. Ive seen it before, it is no big investment and can be played very fast while helping much with the precision. Its the least you can do for this angmar player. He was merely a spectator in his game x)

@@Jewus19 haha true. He kinda just stood there. But I agree with you. A 3” gauge and 45deg tool is easy to get and doesn’t slow down the game much at all but makes your opponent feel much better about the movements.

That's very true! Nevertheless the result of 10 to nothing would be the same. For the future it's a good point to move more precisely with the chariots 👍

@@CapitanCorner I agree completely. It wouldn’t change the outcome of the game. Chariots are brutal! It just might make your opponent feel better.

@@TheDurinShow yeah we all know this feeling of losing really bad and then the opponent is moving to far, doesn't measure things and just charges etc... Maybe the opponent had the better list, was in advantage with the scenario, played better strategy and tactics, more luck with dice rolling but nevertheless you feel a bit like the opponent is a cheater🤷‍♂️

When fighting chariots in maelstrom, it's not a bad idea to hug the board edge, since the chariots can't deploy within 6" of the models you have deployed and would need to really turn in order to get the angle to charge.

Answer to your second question is yes. Chariots do ignore control zones.

Well at 500 points you can play only a few toys. Jordys list has no hero with heroic strike and no models with fight 6 or higher. Therefore of course for example two mounted heroes with fight 6 could destroy the whole army and the Easterling Captains, Khandish Chieftain and also the elite troops can't do anything against it. I never play Khand or Easterlings without Amdur, Khamul or an Khandish King. The list needs at least one hero with heroic strike, somebody who can stop heroes with fight 6, attacks 3 for example. Also monsters, especially Gwaihir could destroy this army list. Some big heros will come in the tournament. It think that will bite Jordy in the butt later in the tournament 😂🤷‍♂️

Hey guys, Jordy from the vid. So Constantin is right; at 500 points most armies can afford a single F6+ hero, and even in doing so will sacrifice around 10 troops to do so. This list is fairly high numbers, the way it mitigates big heroes by having board control, preventing the big hero from getting where they want with bodies in the way. This list often just avoids them until victory/end conditions are met. Additionally Easterling pikeblocks are particularly good against large heroes as they only need to put a single model against them but still be able to throw 3 dice; against a mightless Aragorn for example they still have a decent chance at winning the fight. Whilst their big heroes are killing a single 9pt model per turn, the 18 troops i got in place of a big hero usually kill about 3 or 4. If versing an all monster army, its just play objectives. This list will do fairly poor generally against the ents or eagles; just try to flash kill them one at a time by focusing most of the army on one and trapping and hoping they whiff, whilst a handful of troops tie up the other grumbles. That'll likely fail so just control all the objectives as you break. Easterlings get C5 troops post break so they tend to do well at this.

And a note to high defence; never an issue for Easterlings, 3 dice chasing 6's is still close enough to a 50% to kill. Secondly Easterling captains have hand and a half axes, so can be S5 with +1 to ensure kills in any safe fight. And generally high D troops are at least somewhat elite; which again allows for numbers to compensate.

They can only reroll if the game would end and they'd want it to go on longer.

@@joeltimonen8268 ah, that's it. Thanks!

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Also did ya roll for Terror when you charged the Tainted?

Ya the rules say you can ignore control zones but they do not specifically say you are not charging. It just seems strange that these chariots can enter combat without suffering any of the penalties that entering combat has.

@@jonathonking9643 the chariot movement though the models dont consider to be charging so they ignore the terror rule. they do need to pivot to be able to do there stuff so they are a huge weakness them self and there are really expensive for a warrior with a single wound at D4. the king is were the danger is really at but if even a single monster like a troll can get into him he is at great risk of dying then other heros for his cost. also reading the chariot, they are considered mounts so using rules that knock down your opponet you can easy remove them. so really there are a high offence high risk unit being the king only being the one that is the most dangerous. this match up was just bad starting phase which i think it was unsportsmen on them not telling the angmar player that they can do that turn one.

Defensive Bulwark “Additionally, when in combat, any model that wishes to Strike the rider must roll a D6. On a 1-4, the model must Strike the Chariot. On a 5+, they may Strike the rider.”

@@TheDurinShow I read this rule as: I declare my first strike on the chariot. I roll. I declare my second strike. I roll again etc. And if you want to go everything at the chariot you just roll them all together. I would tend to agree with how they played it on camera.

@@matthewkappos3602 I disagree. It says in the rule that if a model wishes to strike the rider he must roll “a” d6. If it is a 1-4 he must strike the chariot. That doesn’t matter if it is 1 strike or 6. All strikes must go against the chariot.

@@TheDurinShow "a" d6 per Strike at the chariot model in my opinion. Same as if legolas were to fire 3 arrows at a chariot he would have to take 3 in the way checks not one. If you are fighting a combat against two models do you not say for example I am making one Strike at this guy and two Strikes at this other guy etc. When it says if you wish to Strike (capitalised) the chariot it means make one Strike against it as opposed to the literal meaning of strike (lowercase) as in just attack it. Each Strike is completely independent from the last. As such when you elect to Strike the chariot you are only using one attack on your profile and you roll one dice. If you want to use all your attacks then you would Strike the chariot 3 times and so roll "a d6" 3 times. One for each Strike. I will admit the iron hills chariot words this differently and specifically follows the method I just explained. I would attribute the difference to GW realising the wording was more confusing for khand and so fixed it in the hobbit book which I believe came out later?? ( was away from the game at the time so can't be certain) Don't see a reason why the two chariots would use different methods. Happy to be proven wrong. Enjoying some rules discussion 😁.

It was a chieftain, just using king model as a proxy

@@TB-vy3kl ah okay that’s fine then.

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You have to spend might before fate rolls - it's in the rulebook!

@@EntmootVideos so you can't wait to see the fate roll before choosing to might?

@@Dorumir no, there’s a chart in the book that tells you when to do things. Fairly sure it’s might before fate!

And ofc Amdur Running away like a fool when doing his first courage test

Thanks for the comment. This game really wasn't great. The deployment in this game was very unbalanced for the army lists and the scenario. The deployment in this game is not the regular deployment for the game it's unique to the scenario. This was the most damage that a chariot could ever do. Over chariots are good but nothing to scary. If you want to see how they go I would recommend checking out Jordy's next game with them.

Thanks for the comment. I don't disagree, I think we got the balance wrong this first season with taking it to seriously. In the future we would avoid this

part of the game mate.

You missed some very clever tactics following that though. The easterling player did a lot of work to really mitigate any potential failures which worse players wouldn't have done.