They want us to voluntarily give away our freedom and it doesn't matter who you vote for. It seems we lost WWII.

😂why? Have you Lost it?😮😅

Yes Geoff lost it....Not the car, his mind when he read the journalist replies.

I bet all the questions were loaded too. I.e you have theses choices that will all end up with pay extra per mile. Not any that said leave it as it is apart from charging EVs the same as everyone else. OH and just fix the roads with the road tax..

Ah you said it as I posted they were loaded Questions who would have thunk.

Exactly! You can also guarantee once they start "pay per mile" they won't remove road tax and fuel duty will they .... it will just be yet another tax stacked ontop of another tax, as it always is

Exactly 👍

​@@arcadeukAgreed, so obvious...😳🙄🇬🇧

… and that works great for EVs … 😂😂😂

Not to mention that your car, whether a diesel or petrol has passed a emissions test to pass the MOT. It's nothing to do with environment etc, it's simply all about control and so they can turn your car off whenever. The cameras have been going up round my area, because IMO it's coming whether you like it or not, so you know what to do 😊

Correct! Those unfit to serve their fellow citizens seek to rule over them - Ludwig von Mises

I have always said that.

I've long bored people with my idea of government being chosen like a jury system. When called you serve for a year or two, then return to previous role. Mps chosen from a pool of the best people in the country, voted by the public and their peers. All get paid the same whilst in office. I'll stop there lol

Except Geoff.

It Is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it. Upton Sinclair.

But most complain about the state of our roads! You get what you pay for.

Or asked to be monitored every single moment of their travel.

@@Ifyoudonttakeitucantfakeit Motorists pay enough to have the roads in good condition, but the money is taken away for other things like £8 million a day for those coming here against the law.

@@Ifyoudonttakeitucantfakeit Ask if all the fuel taxes are being used to update the roads. If not, that's the problem.

As if they'd ever stop taxing fuel.

Oh love that idea... that would work.. and cost zero to implement and save a shed load of money...

And let's just sprout wings and fly, while we're at it.

@@allosaurusfragilis7782 You're right, writing one new tax law and firing a couple bureaucrats is a near impossible task.

Hasn’t an annual VED already been announced on EVs ?

The government rarely dream up these awful ideas, it is the civil serpents, who are always in power, as governments come and go

Sounds like a mad wan**r to me

He doesn't drive a car.

Sounds like something that starts with a c maybee

​@@daz1975ify cyclist?

IMHO it's more likely....... *Campaign for Better Transport* *_Klaus Schwab: Real Chief Executive Officer,_* *_Sadiq Khan: Deputy Chief Executive Officer,_* *_Paul Tuohy: Crisis Actwhore Chief Executive Officer._*

Well said 👍👍👍, the trouble is most people are happy to just believe everything they are told by governments and their ( in the pocket ) Scientists, these scientists will sing any song/ tune for anyone that pays them, ie : jukebox scientists, the actual knowledgeable Scientists know it’s nothing to do with the miniscule amount of CO2 humans have contributed.

Just go spray out the camera lenz so it carnt see you simple as

Probably 3000 cyclists?

@@AdamBuckley1964 Probably, they always survey those they know will give them the answer they want.

Commission a survey company and they’ll ask you what you want the outcome to be before they start. They exist to purely to provide ‘evidence’ where there was none before and give unpopular or absurd, whacko ideas some credibility.

Same people they surveyed for the new road priority rules, all cyclists, pedestrians and their organisations, no motoring organisations.

Or lefty tree hugging types!@@AdamBuckley1964

Yes - this is how it's done in many countries. What it would allow you to do is own more than one car and only pay for the mile you do in total - after all you can't drive two at once, can you?

What are they going to charge you on? Personal pollution emissions? If you had 2 vehicles, would that mean you only pay once , because you can only drive one at a time anyway? I wish they'd do car insurance like that too.

@@Veeger You pay per miles in each car based on a function of emissions and mileage. It would be great if insurance worked the same too - but part of insurance is theft and you don't need to be driving for that to happen.

It’s always seemed strange to me that road tax and insurance isn’t averaged out and applied, per litre, at the pump. Everyone on the road is automatically taxed and insured. No need for discs. Can’t get run into by an uninsured driver. Far less coppers required. Disincentive for unnecessary driving. Also, as insurance companies are private, it seems legally dodgy to force, under penalty of law, the motorist to buy a private product. A state owned, nfp insurance company could supply 3rd party f&t at the pump, so you could still pay privately for more cover.

I think Luke had a sword against his bare chest whilst kneeling down blindfolded with one of his trouser legs rolled up.

Agree it certainly does effect all road users but like many motor cyclists im now well past the big 70 and we have thought all our life to stop rediculous over the top legislation and im glad if the many millions of motorists can be pursuaded to get involved with anti vehicle legislation that Europe and our pathetic no backbone MPs are now forcing on everyone.

I will probably go the Mad Max type route to get about, a fast z1000 or similar, pre electronics and a small nondescript scooter to nip to the shops....painted black, flip up plate......growing old disgracefully. I will also lobby groups like MAG my local politician etc....

I agree.

And tyre/ vehicle wear and tear repair tax! Bigger cars usually more expensive tyres etc

Fuel tax isn't the only tax on motorists, though.

Yeah and not 250 like we used to but 7-800 for a 3 litres, this is ridiculous already!!

But you aren't carrying the real cost. It costs society £1.59 for every £ it costs the driver. Why should cyclists pay for you welfare queens?

Now look at the 'Maxines' that people were coerced into getting

Sadly there is far worse on the horizon such as Mandatory jabs, Smart dust on food to fuel and by 2030 the Quantum dot skin barcodes.

Bless him what a sweetheart 💓

It's great for depopulation.

Currently, it probably costs about 20p a mile for full cost?

Yep and they all have the same name Jack Anory !!

And they'll write anything for the right price.

same here yet all around me are the work shy with new mobility cars my neighbour new ev moka she sent it back for a mg petrol ,i drive my 14 year old diesel cannot waste money on a new car or loan does not make sense if you pay tax .The country is a joke

Your not actually fiddling , just keeping what is yours. You owe the Government and Traitor Royals nothing. The sooner the people realise this the better.

i am too honest as well but i feel often being punished for it . maybe the public aught to give who ever does these things a taste of their own meds .

How can you fiddle what is yours anyway?! Just think about this, the average working person in the UK is losing AT LEAST 50% of their income in tax! Forget the headline income tax rate, we are taxed on everything! Well, apart from books! We are even double taxed on some things, like motor fuel, where there is fuel duty and vat. Even pensions, if you have a private pension and combined with your state pension your income exceeds the tax threshold, your private pension is taxed at source!! You already paid income tax to pay into that pension, which by virtue of your foresight lessons your dependence on the state, but you taxed again on that anyway! Every time you buy anything the state is taking 20% of that!! Little known fact, before WW2 there was no purchase tax, it was implemented after the end of the war as a TEMPORARY tax to help post war recovery, fair enough, sort of. Except it became permanent! Then, when we joined the Evil Union, we had to HARMONISE retail tax with their plundering method, so it became VAT. How is it VALUE ADDED, where is he value, except for the state?! Then there were 2 rates, if I recall correctly they were 5% and 17.5%, then it was 25% for a while!!!! And now of course 20%. This is an absurd level of tax to pay on retail goods and actively increases inflation!!! The reason for such a heavy tax burden is a government that is woefully inefficient and that has become addicted to easy money instead of doing the job properly and not wasting epic amounts of YOUR cash on utter nonsense like HS2 and illegal immigrant holiday camps. There are something like 70 or 80 thousand civil servants in the UK, all beavering away at thinking up new schemes to dip even more into our wallets and keep themselves employed, at our expense. And they can't even do the job they were actually employed to do. Same applies to councils, probably the biggest wasters of all. People of the UK need to wake up and smell the coffee or what Geoff has highlighted here and much more will get much worse. And remember, it's YOUR money!!!

It would actually be more ethical to withhold all money from the crown, aka; the beast, than to fund it.

Yes and most people on their latest 'smart' phones are playing into their hands.

And the recent Post Office events show that not only are computers not infallible, but those whose design, operate, and administer them know this.

​@@cornishhh I think that was engineered to steer the digital money idea their way.

Luke is more than likely a millennial who has had any critical thinking brainwashed out of him. That's if he had any in the first place. The diatribe these people write for the MSM could be written by 5 year olds. They're thinking is infantile. Children in adult bodies.

They are the funded puppets doing the bidding of the people behind this. Just look at all the money Gates spends on media.

always been used as a propaganda tool

Looking further up the replies, it seems they are push bikers. Hmmm

Yeh I read some of their bile some years ago. These NGOs are a real threat to our way of life. I watch UK column and even I'm shocked by the sheer number of NGO's operating in this country alone that are there to undermine our way of life, indoctrinate, pervert the young and many other nefarious things.

I concur.

I concur too.

You,government is a prime example of loaded questions,nearly all MPs are contributors.

Shame they can't use their talents and money to do something constructive with their time.

Delphi psychological tactic

Fact number one The government needs to get more money as a percentage of your wage off the public year on year. In this regard the motorist is considered to be fair game. Sell it to the public using loaded questions.

Love the sarcastic wit ! Thanks for the laugh.

The way we have seen government around the world waste taxpayers money ,the last couple of years proves they don't need more money.

It takes its toll on the economy wich I think is what it’s all about just a few yr off it .

Have you ever been to SA? They have no idea who owns or drives the car. Fake plates 10 a penny!@@tokoloshimampara9932

same will happen in the UK

If everyone put tape over their number plates what are they going to do???

@@tokoloshimampara9932 That is just soooo true.

Oh i condone that :,D

A lot of those cameras seem to catch fire. Must be poor design.

Course you don’t! Good heavens! 😂

the useful idiots putting them up and operating them are making the people at the top rich !!

I DO NOT SUPPORT ACTIONS BY POLITICIANS TO FURTHER RESTRICT FREEDOM TO TRAVEL ….. is short sighted apathy the price we pay for living in a “one foot in the grave” cuntry ?

Like the post office then?

Politics is full of narcissists these days. "Daddy knows best."

(sounds like every referendum - ever..)

Yep sums it up nicely. It's all spin and cherry picked information to push through whatever they want.

Geof publish your own report, your audience is far larger than the numbers responding to these surveys

Very well put Rob.

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It's what happens at general elections too!

And same BS with any local or central government public consultation. Pay by the mile is just another digitised control, but it will be incorporated into the CBDC. Sceptical? Try searching your nations central bank. Eg, “Bank of England CBDC” are see how close we are to a total pay as you go digital gulag.

It does when it suits the Governments agenda!

exactly that. the sample size is a joke

Your average Express reader would be angry at these findings but many wouldn't analyse the article; they'd just look at the headline. Bad news sells papers. I'm sure the journalist knows this. His bosses certainly do.

That still use leaded fuel.

TBF, Number plate theft is probably going to be a big 'thing' in the future

​@@kenbrooks7794 Ill most likely get cloned plates in the future. Driving in the UK seems to get worse every year. The amount of speed cameras everywhere now is joke.

Unfortunately u as a driver should do a walk around before driving so using that excuse would just get u a £100 fine on the spot and if seen happening again take car of u and have pay roughly 150 min to get it out and x amount a day

100%

Just keep supporting people like Geoff. The message will get out there.

Totally agree 👌👌

MPs get very uncomfortable when people start contacting them and suggesting policies!

Yep!

They have a YT channel...

Yup!!

Weeks, Months & Years in advance. All part of the bigger Agendas.

Speeding tickets sent automatically, reckless driving because you accelerated or braked too hard. Infinite possibilities of revenue collection for them. F that, no way I’m having it

I think in that case we should insist they be government issued devices, because then someone's rich friend who makes knickers will get the contract...

Agree👍

Indeed they will. AI can produce more believable lies 24/7 at a fraction of the time these "journalist" activist ever could

Or better still, an email from every one of Geoff's 106k subscribers 😁😁 And all of his like-minded channels subbers 😁😁

@@figeepoet 107K today!

Thank you.

Why scared?? I think it's quite entertaining, especially if people start writing to their MPs to demand the end of funding foreign wars because there are so many members of the British electorate that are still far too inadequately tracked and surveilled. We demand our taxes be spent sensibly!!

I mean that's just basic statistics isn't it though

heres a list on the jabs the manufactured NATO garbage and other various subjects . Ukrainian SS In Britain - Postwar SS- Division Refugees kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i6iPetZelcrMf6M.htmlsi=PoEWwDf8Gg7xOPjv . colonel douglas macgregor , larry c johnson , colonel richard black , scott ritter , richard medhurst , colonel wilkerson , the new atlas , eva bartlett , graham phillips , anne laure bonnel , tom , the duran , alex christoforou , christine anderson , patrick lancaster , the REDACTED channel , the jimmy dore show , the grayzone , telesur , judge napolitano , TFI GLOBAL , , Jeffrey sachs . john mark dougan tour of azovstal the nuclear power plant and one of around 46 US Govt bio labs in ukraine . richard medhurst THE TRUTH Behind Secret US BIOLABS in Ukraine | Dilyana Gaytandzhieva

But I still don't trust National, but despised Liebor