Oh yeah I never noticed that before and I seen this picture a few times .thanks for pointing that out

That's a great point. I have been on thyroid meds for years. Once I got stabilized, I felt so much better. BTW, I didn't have Hashimoto's, but my neighbor did. She decided not to continue on her meds and she became a bat shit crazy hoarder. Scary stuff.

None of that was a reason for her behavior though

I was thinking the same thing. On top of a hypothyroid diagnosis, I slowly sank into an Addisonian crisis during 2016 and I thought I was going crazy. I almost lost my job because my attitude rapidly went south. I ended up doing 6 weeks of IOP despite my mental health issues being well-managed. I cried every day and didn't know why. I was seen by a medical professional ~15 times and was always in perfect health. During the last month or so, I would have lost hours where I couldn't remember where I had been or what I had done. I very nearly died but I finally got an Addison's dx. It took months for me to really comprehend that my symptoms had been real; I'd been told for almost a year that nothing was wrong. 🤷

@@Enne_esse It possibly could or Folie a deux could be at play here. Guess, we will never know for sure.

I have the impression that Mother should have looked into the mirror for a cause for her daughter's problems.

Maybe she wouldn’t eat or drink. Look at the picture of her neck and people used to get goiter’s and if I remember right they started putting iodine in salt that you buy at the grocery store to help with the problem. You know the round package with the girl with the umbrella. Thyroid issues are really not fun to have .

I'd go as far to compare an exorcism to cruel and unusual punishment of an innocent person. Sad indeed.

@@lorisutherland7728 You're right. People still do get goiters, with Graves Disease or hyperthyroidism. I had Graves disease, which reared it's ugly head when I was pregnant. Had a migraine for over 2 months. Until a lump showed up on my neck out of nowhere, one day. It was horrible, as I couldn't be treated with radioactive iodine or surgery, because of the pregnancy. It was horrible, with terrible symptoms. I still have an irregular and rapid heart rate as a souvenir from it. 😳

@@lorisutherland7728 It is possible that she wouldn’t or couldn’t eat for a variety of reasons, although I don’t know whether or not she had goiter. However, if this is the case she needed medical attention immediately. There are other ways to provide hydration and nutrition if not by mouth, such as enteral feeding (tube feeding) or intravenous feeding. And if the individual can’t make the decision for themselves, the family usually does. From the photos I saw on the internet, it is clear that she was starving for a very long time, one or two weeks without eating will not cause people to look the way she did. Coincidentally, as a dietitian that’s what I do for a living, part of my job is to provide nutrition for people who will not or cannot eat by mouth. As such, I see this as gross negligence from a medical standpoint.

Mental illness plus religious mumbo jumbo is a recipe for disaster.

Yes it's not funny but always look at other options than the one that was given . I do so in my life for i know i'm not always wright nor always wrong . Be critical about what you beleave. So you won't get fooled.

Unchecked severe mental illness is devastating...especially when helpers, who ought to know better, buy into your delusions

If you are looking for coverage of a topic without any dry humor/humorous sarcasm, you’re in the wrong place. There are very few videos on this channel without this element. It is, in my opinion, always done with taste. The professional poise is maintained; Dr. Grande is never disrespectful. He is a fine doctor who continues to educate the masses with his channel.

I'm always interested in how exactly mental health professionals separate mentally ill people (which this girl obviously was) from people who are just ultra religious. I've had family members and friends who I felt were in a gray area in between ultra dogmatic and schizophrenia or schizotypal. What is the dividing line, saying you have actual back and forth conversations with some God? Believing you are God? Thinking other people in your life are demons?

Always kills me when I hear, "well everyone in town thought she was possessed by demons." Yeah, no shit.. I'm sure they did. She lived in a small town in a region of Bavaria which is known as the Bible Belt of Germany. It's basically Germany's version of Mississippi. People in that town largely believing in demonic possession theories as opposed to what is was (mental illness) is what one would expect.

Like, a DemonUber?

@@chad3232132 this was made worse because germany at the time was a very sexualized place-tv, films magazines all basically featured nudity and soft core movies were a major source of entertainment traditionally minded people living in that region, basically, as a reaction to this retreated into their traditional mindset and saw the bigger society as being against them annelieses lived in that environment and thus her mental illness featured demonic activity this however only reinforced her parents belief system that their viewpoint is right and the outer society is created by satan that is why they never sought psychological advice because they saw mental professionals as being deluded by satan

Who among us hasn't had a little trouble with demonic possession from time to time, am I right??

@@sanguinesoulful I suppose I've done stupid shit while drunk or on a Oxy high and blamed it on demons in the moment. Looking back, it was really just an excuse.

Very sad and tragic

Me too

It is very sad, if only someone outside the family had helped her.

I agree with you all, very disturbing. Although today, rather in the 70’s, they truly have come along ways. What I don’t understand, how ones gifted with “ the light”, ones role their eyes, ( although, there truly are ones that feel they’re gifted, & can cause harm, just as much, some are truly gifted, you must always be aware, especially with our souls and spirits). I cannot concept how much darkness grabs more attention ( actually, I can, it truly blows my mind however, many will turn to religious beliefs ( not all are bad, it’s on us actually, how we choose to carry ones self, how we choose to be a genuine caring human, or hateful, without judgment, or any type of separation from our loved ones), yet, they don’t understand faith, I hope this makes sense, I don’t want y’all to feel I’m judging, it’s what I’ve witnessed.) From my own understanding reading the Bible, ( unless I’m missing words), does it ever ( I’ve read a lot of many versions of the Bible, etc. ), does it say, if you’re this religion, “ blah blah blah??!! From my understanding it says, Love, it speaks about no harm towards others, so far, in my 58 years of living, I deeply feel that our Native Ancestors have had it right, we honor one another, love, we respect our earth, creatures, all living things. I feel better believing this, & I’ll continue to teach my family the same, because, regardless, our color, religion ( as long as it’s not sacrificing any breathing soul), it truly makes the most sense. we always need to be so careful about dark places, everyone’s lives matter, and the healthiest help.

@@mamashanshan2772 I think this case shows us how dreadful religion is. Either delusions and seizures are signs of demonic procession or they are a sign of a prophet. The first is in danger of mistreatment from others, the second can become a danger to others if power and grandiosity are also part of the mix.

I"m not diagnosing anyone... just making an educated guess that likely has around a 95% accuracy rate. Seriously, I'll bet he nailed the overwhelming majority of these non-diagnosis diagnoses.

He is not supposed to diagnose people he hasn't evaluated in person. It is unethical for his profession.

That's all I kept thinking, and all I would have commented, too. Thanks for doing it for me! 😁

Yeah she was just acting out the psychopathy of the family. That's what shizophrenics do.

exactly what i was thinking, it just kept getting tragically worse as his analysis continued. just so SO sad....

Not sure who was possesed? Crazy parents

You said it perfectly. She was clearly suffering badly.

It sounds like your grandson has a great family support system! My hat’s off to you! Epilepsy can be very tricky to deal with. I’m a retired nurse and have had a lot of experience with patients who suffer with seizure activity, as well as family members/caregiver who deal with the devastating effects of this disease. Right now, I have an epileptic yorkie who is with me 24/7. Not a human being, as is your grandson, but has given me practice in noticing the little changes that happen before and after seizures. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Tammy!

Epilepsy has nothing to do with possesion: did your grandson levitate or speak dead languages??? No priest would take epllepsy for possesion.

I was just going post the same thing!

😳 it’s so apparent, but yet, without you pointing it out, I never would have looked closer!

Especially Graves Disease and hyperthyroidism, which can cause the goiter. If left untreated, you can actually die from it. Underactive or Hashimoto's, not so much.

My friend has Addison’s disease brought on by 15 years of hashimotos. It can cause a plethora of crazy symptoms like psychosis if not treated.

@@persephonemaeve2704 Really? That's horrible for your friend. I never heard of that before. I guess I need to do more research. I'm sorry to hear your friend is going through all of this.❤

Well… I think Dr. Grande is giving us live exhibits of self-evolutionary thinking? Hmmm, well maybe 🤔 he just has a growth mindset? Lol I guess we will know more when his plants 🪴 start growing in the background from his potential use of a miracle growth product? Lol either way lol , I am not diagnosing him just having some fun on my lunch break from housework! Lol 🤔❤️✊🌎🇺🇸🪴😜

@@AliciaM5555 Do you think Dr. Grande is special too? Yes he is so funny! I enjoyed his book that was serious but…lol after the day I had working with the general public Lol ! In my locale of course! I have zero other options but to laugh? Lol Now I know that am ok and I don’t need a mental health evaluation because I have water to cast out any demons! Lol 🤔❤️🌎🇺🇸✊😜😳

Yes indeed. Pentagramcostals and Braptists are total children of satan himself.

@@suekennedy8917 ? What’s a braptists? Lol I think 🤔 I missed that one denominational reference in world 🌎 religions class or maybe 🤔 I fell asleep during a KZfaq presentation? Lol enlighten me please! Lol

@@elanahammer1076 After you litigate with your own money against criminal government employees, you can tell me how great you are. Elana Hammer Highlighted reply Elana Hammer 1 hour ago @Sue Kennedy ? What’s a braptists? Lol I think 🤔 I missed that one denominational reference in world 🌎 religions class or maybe 🤔 I fell asleep during a KZfaq presentation? Lol enlighten me please! Lol

yes the snl cast for the last several seasons has been breaking character too much its very annoying

I could see him doing Weekend Update

*Dr.* Todd. Please let’s show respect here 😂

😂😂😂

You haven't seen Grande's videos where he puts blooper footage in, I guess

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He's not a medical doctor. He has a PhD in psychology. I do enjoy his videos though.

I thank you for bringing your voice and speaking out for what you know to be true. It is truly sad and difficult to understand how some of these treatment facilities LACK knowledge and compassion to CARE for individuals who are truly in a battle of the mind.

Me too, many decades ago. I had been recovering from serious disease and alcohol abuse. I learned to recognize the sleep paralysis and deal with it. One time I scared the demons out of a housemate by asking him in a slurred monster-voice to wake me up.

Thankfully the people around you didn’t think you were possessed by a demon.

@@trishayamada807 I did go to a shrink, but not the good kind. Freudian, I guess, like a secular exorcist. Initially the sleep paralysis was accompanied by a very loud and very real sounding air-raid type alarm. The shrink wanted to talk about loud noises in my childhood. I did not return for a second visit. The SP eventually went away spontaneously, as my general health improved.

@@JiveDadson i have and still get sleep paralysis along with “exploding head syndrome”. My GP was zero help and made me feel crazy. The psychiatrist I was sent to knew immediately what was going on. Thankfully no one sent me for an exorcism.

@@trishayamada807 Yeah, I had head explosions too, but much later, and I think unrelated to the first episode. First I had spasms upon waking that began in my legs and over time worked their way up, eventually ending in the brain boomies. It turned out that I had (and always will have) polycythemia vera, a blood cancer that untreated makes your blood increasingly thick until you go 💀. Daily pills and the occasional blood-letting, and it's not so bad.

yes in this case an analysis of her support system is absolutely vital...its incredible we had to wait until now for this analysis

I've seen one other, Casefile's episode on her. It's by far the most respectful treatment of Anneliese Michel's case that I've seen on KZfaq so far, besides this one.

Bro said “thanks for making fun of religion”

Not to mention 'Alien abductees'. What if she was perfectly normal but her self was regularly abducted leaving he body which could then be filled by evil spirits. Then later her abductors may return her and that would account for the intermittent good bad syndrome as well as her not wanting exorcism as it made no sense to her as she wasn't there when the bad things occured.

It was brilliant, wasn't it?! For a moment I couldn't concentrate on the video, I was laughing so hard 😄

Yes! This is my personal favorite!

Hilarious!

😂😂😂

Yes, he's so funny he should be a comedian and would be more accurate in comedy than in psychology. He definitelly missed his profession...sadly.

I am what you would call 'religious' but I can tell the difference between mental health - good and bad - and religious beliefs. However I am 40 years older than this poor young woman. Stephanie Harlow covers this case very well too imo.

Wow, I'm a huge fan of her work and I had never known this! The books & film adaptations were literally my childhood. You've given me something to look into now out of curiosity.

same thing you are...i have a right to be here so either shut up or buzz off

Yes, I've also heard that when you are physically at your weakest you are spiritually at your strongest. It's why people fast.

Too bad demons are not real and exorcisms are just torture on mentally ill people.

Your wearing lipstick in your photo & YOUR A DUDE and you expect me to believe you know anything about if exorcisms are real or not? TF outta here.

@@Gigachadly not sure what my lipstick has to do with anything, but go off I guess

@@Gigachadly what? This issue is no joke. And you’re making this about lipstick? We need a better mental health systems not delusions.

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I've never been religious, but when I was younger and less knowledgeable about mental illnesses, I did think there might have been something supernatural going on based on the movies and documentaries about her. The media and Hollywood put out a lot of BS over the years to play up the "demonic possession" nonsense, while downplaying the obvious mental illness.

I think some of the things in these movies were exaggerated. Like it's said she had whole conversations in other languages. More likely she knew a couple of sentences in other languages and just recited those. That is far from talking fluently in another unknown language.

@@tonyhogg9839 There are cassette tapes of the exorcisms in which she carries hour long conversations in Latin. This is, of course, likely because Michel studied Latin, so she knew the language well enough to converse in it. I'm not sure there's any proof of her speaking in any other tongues though, even for just sentences.

Possessions are real, but the one red flag that shows her case was mental illness is because to be possessed you have to invite something in, you don't just become possessed out of nowhere, and her family and priests should have known that

@@sostartled265 "Possessions are real" Based on what verifiable evidence? "to be possessed you have to invite something in" How does a person invite a demon in? I just verbally said Satan is welcome to inhabit my body, and nothing happened.

That's pretty much the story of Arthur Conan Doyle's life in one sentence. The man was a trained physician who believed in fairies.

@@robertlevine2827 the photos were obviously fake even using the analysis of his time-one has to truly shake ones head and wonder wtf was doyle thinking

@@Sermonseeker777 😶

Her thyroid is bulging out of her neck!

I may have cackled at this. 🤣

Illnesses have biomarkers. You mean mental disorders, not illnesses. Don't be misled.

I understand a lot about mental disorders because I have several. But still, love Grande's informative videos!

god tell me about it. i got insane sleep paralysis with knocking for like 2 years just from oversleeping when a package was delivered to my apartment. that knocking i guess scared me and stayed with me for way too long. (also when my door was banged on really loud by the maintenance ppl for accidentally leaving the tap on and almost flooding my downstairs neighbors bathroom). basically LOTS of knocking and then even more knocking when i had sleep paralysis. fun

EMDR THERAPY

@Julie Kirsten Doig Browne i had knocking in the walls also, dunno what was causing it but it happened all the time and one day just stopped forever. I heard its pretty common too

Sleep paralysis, with or without knocking, is terrifying. The brain seems trapped in another dimension, and the body is unable to move. Horrific

I've had paralysis but without hallucination. The only thing I experimented with this was the chest compression. I was there, awake, but unable to speak or even to breath. My vision was all red. Very weird. A noise brought me back to normal state. :/ very stressful situation 😂😂

Exactly. Even if they sincerely believed her to be possessed, at what point were these people going to use their eyes and admit this wasn't working? At the 66th exorcism? The 100th? Never? You'd think after four or five tries did nothing anyone would be able to admit an idea is failing. How anyone who claimed to love her allowed this to go on so long much less participated, as she was turning into a battered, starved shell of her former self is beyond me. Religious fanaticism and superstition truly robs people of compassion.

I wonder how a modern day exorcist would regard having 67 exorcisms? Seems alot.

But the thing was, Her family actually brought her to several doctors and neurologists and psychiatrists and psychologists and therapists but they were all just as clueless as her parents were. She was on anti convulsants and several anti depressants for months and they didn’t help at all. There’s a reason why the phrase “there’s more to the story than you’re being told” exists.

That's close to average according to exorcists. You and this doctor should do some further research. Possession and demons are real, of course so is God and Jesus

Pazuzu is difficult to get rid of.

Right? I think the last few years have shown us that people will literally believe anything.

I'm so sorry, I hope the therapy helps and you can find a way to cope. That sounds like an absolute nightmare. This case is so tragic and infuriating in part because I disagree with the idea that demon possessions are real - but I completely saw why she got this idea so fixed in her mind. Her episodes and hallucinations would be a terrifying thing to go through on their own, but if you added in the belief that demons are real and can influence and possess people, and if doctors repeatedly failed to solve your problem and just kept throwing medication with awful side effects at your head? Yeah I can see why it was so easy for her to get fixed on the idea of possession. I can even understand to a point why her family, desperate for answers and seeing the same failures from doctors, might have considered this route out of genuine concern. But what I don't think anything can excuse is how far they took it, even as it had to be obvious the rituals weren't helping.

I second this Dr. Grande, It’s extremely interesting.

3rd here.

Oh yes please

Low IQ types who are into child abuse need to be locked up for life in solitary.

@@suekennedy8917 I believe you meant to comment this on the video and not as a reply to this comment.

I am Catholic the girl was possessed!

Interesting point. It makes me so angry that people will point to her denial of mental illness all wide eyed and uncritical, as if that proves anything. Like: 1) no shit that's how delusions work, you believe in them 2) even today there is such a stigma against mental issues and people are understandably terrified of being locked up in an institution 3) I'd also point out that there was and is a widespread issue in religious communities of people being very ignorant of mental health and very suspicious of psychology, thinking mental issues are a faith issue or a demonic issue, something that can be solved though prayer. If you take all this into account, I don't see why anyone is surprised that Anneliese feared being labeled as mentally ill and mistrusting the doctors who had already let her down.

for prescientific and traditional peoples it might have had positive results from the placebo effect

You never hear about most of them. Hard to judge.

And book sales. The biggest seller of all time is loaded with exorcisms, particularly in the final chapters.

You are literally the only comment I've seen of someone who both doesn't discount possession* and actually still manages to call out the neglectful behavior of all the priests and her family this way, congrats. Like: at what point were they going to realize that, belief in demons or not, the rituals weren't fucking helping? At what point were they going to think her horrifying condition was serious enough to take her to a hospital? Even if the doctors failed to solve the mental issue long term they could, I dunno, have prevented her from turning into a bruised, dehydrated skeleton and *straight up dying?* (*Though personally I very much do discount possession, and I frankly feel her being taught about demonic possession as a real thing at all, was what cemented her delusions, and the family's deadly focus on exorcisms so firmly.)

She definitely wasn't possessed because that doesnt exist.

Depression is a mental disorder.

@@JiveDadson Yes it is but it isn't a personality disorder.

My money is on BPD

@@joycejnn Afraid of someone leaving him, so he pushes everyone away. Could be.

You'd have a sh*tty attitude living in a garbage can that long and everyone talking mess about you all of the time, too🤣🤣

And victims of a scam shrouded in religion. People are trained to never question the priests.

But the thing was, Her family actually brought her to several doctors and neurologists and psychiatrists and psychologists and therapists but they were all just as clueless as her parents were. She was on anti convulsants and several anti depressants for months and they didn’t help at all. There’s a reason why the phrase “there’s more to the story than you’re being told” exists.

@@annahelander2881you do realize there’s more to the story than you already know. She sought medical treatment countless times but they never worked.

@@lthompson5017 i loved it when newhart on his first show had a client who believed he was an alien...so how long are you going to be in town...

I believe that some people really are possessed and do require an exorcism. Not sure about this case though - what is very clear is that the poor young woman had a very miserable life.

And how can you be 100% sure that possession is impossible ? The arrogance of the "rational mind" is truly shocking.

@@izabeera166 share an instance that was ever proven to be true possession, without possibility of mental illness and I’ll give you multiple for each one that was a mental illness, but mistaken by some for possession. I believe in God, so of course I believe in spirits, but I do not believe they can possess a person. Only influence their thoughts and behaviors. Not physically enter their body. I guess if you understood psychology, this would be more obvious to you.

What's the difference between having serious mental illness in Medieval Germany compared to having it in rural Germany in modern times? Back then, you'd be killed by burning at the stake as a witch. Today, you'd be killed by starvation as a result of mistreatment and dozens of exorcisms.

That's a sad reality. It's slowly changing, but not quick enough to save some people. They don't want the stigma. Still.

@@chad3232132 nah today, if you live in Portland, you are free to roam around and get away with crime as an excuses for mental illness

yeah. her voice sounded like a man who had been smoking for like 20 years it seemed. this girl was literally possessed.

Right?!?! I couldn’t make my voice sound like that if I TRIED FOR YEARS. Something supernatural was going on there based on the voice alone.

@@Rachel_Ryder agreed! I just don’t believe it was mental illness alone.

@@Rachel_Ryder people here keep saying it's her damaged thyroid

I honestly can't listen to them for very long. It used to be because when I was younger it scared me because every retelling I knew about the case left small but key facts out, and played up the ZOMG WAS this a REAL DEMONIC GIRL?? Angle. But now it just makes me feel sick and sad to see how much this poor girl was suffering.

Yes indeed. I've no clue about a lot of the people covered either. However it's also because a lot off those covered are inane KZfaqrs I don't give a monkeys ass about. This is an actual interesting case to hear about.

I too absolutely believe in 'things' that are unholy . Yes mental health exists. But so too do these 'things'. These things can get in to the lives of those who are vunerable spiritually / emotionally. Including children . I have alot of experience with mental health issues in 5 different people in my life. Only one I believe was truly under the influence of something unholy . I learnt first hand the small signs I would of never imagined before.

But did you persist in nagging every day?

@@JiveDadson No, only asked once so I guess I can't take credit :)

@@TraceVandal Don't be so hard on yourself. Dr. Grande hearted your comment.

@@deborahdrew8526 Totally.

I've asked for Martin Bryant responsible for the port Arthur massacre about 20 times and still waiting!!

Ugh how awful

I don't think he sleeps!

I wouldn't count on it! 🤣

@@lailanagdee8501 Excuse my ignorance, but is “The Malignant Narcissist “ a documentary or movie? Where can I watch it? Thanks

@@viktormedina4631 You should ask the original poster Carolyn Pimental. I assume it refers to another video posted by Dr Grande.

@@viktormedina4631 Yes, it’s a video of Dr Grande’s from a few years ago. The title is “ Malignant Narcissism-is it Narcissism And Psychopathy Combined “.

Nothing is wrong with you . Just look around you . America has way more strange things going on . Don't worry . If you are sane than there is nothing to worry about.

And Florida.

@@_NeelyOHara_ that's why sooo many Germans dream of visiting Florida... Gotta be learning from the OGs, lol 😂

Florida--got to be Florida

@@AedanGUnit Florida man is the superhero nobody deserves lol

The power of the priesthood for certain gullible people.

Can you tell one?

wow

@@haleytruslow7200 one that I can remember is that when her mind started to deteriorate due to old age she started saying delusional things like her daughter is coming to take her to hell and she would throw her feces. I feel bad for saying this honestly but old age does a lot to you..

@@mayorchop2858 holy shit

@@michellemoore2768 I know fr, I felt so bad

That’s not okay and I agree with you.

Well it’s cause she was under a demon spell, obviously there wasn’t anything they could do

This isn't true. She was absolutely not mentally ill. She was indeed possessed... Look up Dr. Marshall Taylor...search...exorcism of Anneliese... This dr is incorrect in almost every point that he's trying to make. Not everything can be explained by science. It doesn't surprise me that a mental health dr believes that Anneliese's was mistreated by her parents and the EXORCIST. She was possessed. It's extremely rare. The real travesty is commenting on something you know nothing about, like Dr. Grande.

@@reneezettek9230 This is insane. This girl was mistreated, abused, and murdered, and you're here siding with the people who did it to her. You need help.

😂😂😂😂

You sound like you could use treatment for this kind of issue.

@@kwahujakquai6726 i don’t think there is any treatment for this type of thing

@@qqq3494 Talking about your fears, and what makes you uncomfortable with a trained psychologist would be a good starting treatment.

Thanks for this explanation. I had no idea. ❤

that's 1950s Catholicism for you.

@@quester09 1970s -- Anneliese died in 1976. Though it might as well have been the Middle Ages.

oh brother

@@floraposteschild4184 her family was extremely traditional even in seventies germany

If that were the case, it TRULY would be “standing room only “ in “The Hot Place.” 🔥(And I'd be there, too..😬)

Period.

This is so heartbreaking and it is not a part of true Christianity. Demon activity is seen more in the treatment than any symptoms or diagnosis.

Bingo! 😳😜

@@pattyclements8801Many if not most of the Jesus miracles were exorcisms. He even took requests, much to the detriment of the local swine population. [ Mark 5;1 - Mark 5:13 ] He (with a capital H) said it was a good thing to perform exorcisms, but only if the exorcist is baptized in His name, and commands the demons in His name. I don't remember the chapter and verse, but I think it's in John.

@@JiveDadson I'm not familiar with Jesus requiring someone to be baptized in order to exorcize but I do know that Jesus spoke and demons fled. He didn't require months of ritual and no one is recorded dying as a result. When Jesus cast out demons the people were then in their right mind, healed and at peace. I'm not denying demon activity in someone's life. But for this woman the treatment was not Christianity.

... with a grain of salt.

She had seizures but I do wonder myself, because hallucinations and delusions and other symptoms do seem to match schizophrenia and if she were being medicated for the wrong thing who knows what effects that might have. Then again, maybe she was epileptic but suffering severe side effects from the medication. And having the idea of demons fed to her when she was already emotionally vulnerable and probably desperate for answers that medicine wasn't giving her could've just created this constant vicious cycle and feedback loop of delusion. It's a damn shame the doctors at the time either couldn't find the solution or seemed to flat out brush off the hallucinations as something she could totally live with.

*head rotates around* "You tawkin' to me?"

@@tennesseewarminster8591 oh stop it! 😂😂😂 that’s perfect lol

Under many religious circumstances.

Bingo. If you look up the small town in Bavaria she was from you will see it's the heart of the German "Bible Belt." When people say "everyone in her town thought she was possessed by demons," I can believe they really thought that.