ANOTHER APPRENTICE? First Time Watching *Jigsaw (2017)* movie Reaction

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The Dork Side TV

The Dork Side TV

Күн бұрын

Y'all convinced me to watch Jigsaw (Saw 8) to keep the Saw marathon alive! This one threw me through a few loops, I won't lie... but glowing eye BILLY is a freaking beast! Let me know if I should close out with Spiral or if I should skip it for my sanity (y'all have had nothing but bad things to say about it lol). Thanks for watching as always and be on the look out for a poll that will determine the next franchise!
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JIGSAW (2017) Reaction: 00:34
JIGSAW (2017) Review and Thoughts: 35:51
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@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
Jigsaw is finally here! My job doesn't want your guy to succeed because they gave me 7 overnight shifts in a row! Can't hold me down though! Should be back to a normal release schedule soon. Look out for a poll to determine the next franchise I'll be watching (turn on those notifications so you don't miss out on the vote!) and thanks for watching as always!
@a1sawse939
@a1sawse939 8 ай бұрын
Much appreciated man 🙌🏽👍🏽
@user-qh2us7ky1p
@user-qh2us7ky1p 8 ай бұрын
The Collector, (2009) The Collection, (2012)
@ajsloan5676
@ajsloan5676 7 ай бұрын
Are you gonna see “Spiral”? It’s cannon in jigsaw timeline
@geronimozarza8495
@geronimozarza8495 8 ай бұрын
I think the big issue with the Saw Saga is that they unalived Kramer on the third one, but then realized (too late) that HE was the soul of it, not the gore. People did not see the films only for the games but also because he was an interesting character. The abundance of Kramer's flashbacks from 4 to 7 and Jigsaw (and now an entire movie of him with Saw X) is the proof they still need him to hold the story despite the character is already cannonically dead.
@Lazrael32
@Lazrael32 8 ай бұрын
it's one of the reasons people didn't like this one. (there are others like it not connecting smoothly to the originals and missing the aesthetic). They advertised it as Jigsaw being back. and honestly even if they wanted to jason vorhees him i was ok with it because Kramer as an antagonist is just SO good. We WERE going to get a sequal with the director from 2, but then chris rock stuck his neck in and instead we got Spiral.
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, John being killed in the 3rd movie of a 10 movie franchise is so wild to think about. I’m glad they realized he needed to stay through flashbacks because I don’t know how popular these movies would have been without Tobin!
@Lazrael32
@Lazrael32 8 ай бұрын
@@nachgeben nah they new by the third one they wanted more. Thats why there are so many plots that lead back to that movie. Hoffman, jigsaws girlfriend, amanda's letter, the wax tape. They just didn't know how important tobin was. They've admitted they had a different plan for hoffman than what they went in.
@TubeMotivations
@TubeMotivations 8 ай бұрын
Eh, saw 4 had pretty good scenes with Tobin bell, till 6 everything was good. 7 was just bad
@pedromatias7608
@pedromatias7608 7 ай бұрын
I think believe they intended Saw to only be a trilogy. But they fucked up. They immediately regretted it like u said with the flashbacks and Saw X are proof.
@gigimadison8821
@gigimadison8821 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been watching for a month now, I just want to say this dude has the most wholesome vibes ever! 😂❤
@FLQueerLiberal1982
@FLQueerLiberal1982 8 ай бұрын
Wholesome? "Wholesome" as in "family friendly"? I hope not, cause that kind of wholesome sucks. Now, "wholesome" as in "an inviting, welcoming, cool, friendly place" I dig that. Dude is great!
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
Ayeee that just made my day!! Thank you so much 🙏❤️ I hope you enjoyed watching along with me and I appreciate the nice comment!
@derekrodriguez8697
@derekrodriguez8697 8 ай бұрын
​​@@TheDorkSideTVThe next saw movie is a spin-off that has nothing to do with the previous ones called spiral from the book of saw and Chris Rock and Samuel.L Jackson appear (also called saw 9).
@pedromatias7608
@pedromatias7608 7 ай бұрын
I know I think I have a crush on him. He’s so cool.
@dragonballzgamer-playingdb6064
@dragonballzgamer-playingdb6064 8 ай бұрын
A lot of people have different thoughts on what John meant by "an honest mistake". Some say it refers to Logan's honest mistake on mislabeling the X-Rays, and some say it refers to John's mistake of incorrectly measuring the dose he gives Logan, which causes him to not come to on time.
@sammitchell3657
@sammitchell3657 8 ай бұрын
Wow. Never thought of that.
@user-xk5hf3kl5k
@user-xk5hf3kl5k 4 ай бұрын
no the honest mistake cause Logan was still drugged and wasn't able to play John's game fairly
@tjjordan4207
@tjjordan4207 19 күн бұрын
That actually makes a lot more sense. It’s never said what kind of honest mistake he meant by. Plus, there’s a possibility that John realized Logan truly was regretful and maybe even being scared out of his mind during that moment was punishment enough.
@FLQueerLiberal1982
@FLQueerLiberal1982 8 ай бұрын
While I'm not a fan of a "new" apprentice we've never been introduced to, and an entirely new cast, I think it's a great addition. I love the whodunit aspect, and the two twists.
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
I was having such a hard time trying to figure out who was doing all this 😂 cool reveal with Logan, especially because he was in the first game! I kinda wish they nodded to Dr. Gordon again though but you can’t have it all I guess. I’ll just be happy with a glowing eye Billy!
@FLQueerLiberal1982
@FLQueerLiberal1982 8 ай бұрын
@@TheDorkSideTV agreed about Dr. Gordon. Dr. Gordon should be Jigsaw 2.0.
@_K1YA
@_K1YA 8 ай бұрын
Hope you can check out “The collector” It was supposed to be a prequel for saw but it got rejected. It’s like Home Alone x Saw. It also has a sequel called “The collection” and supposedly there would be a final movie called “The collected” but it got abandoned midway.
@HakoTaco1
@HakoTaco1 8 ай бұрын
Prequel to Saw? What was the original idea?
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
I have considered The Collector after Saw just because it’s 2 quick movies! I might check them out soon just to keep the vibes going 👀 crazy that it was pitched as a Saw movie!
@_K1YA
@_K1YA 8 ай бұрын
@@TheDorkSideTV Can’t wait for you to check it out✨
@Pentarax
@Pentarax 8 ай бұрын
My big issue is still the twist. "I replicated a trap from ten years ago and reproduced the exact victim injuries in the exact same pattern to fool the people watching the movie. Don't ask why John never did glowing eyes after that one time." Also the way so many of the traps rely on dumb luck; what if Ryan had fallen through the floor in a position where he couldn't reach the lever? What if Mitch hadn't stepped into the snare's radius before pressing play? Heck, what if Ryan hadn't fallen through the floor and gone into the silo with Mitch and Anna?
@Pentarax
@Pentarax 8 ай бұрын
@@nachgebenYes, but when Kramer said that, he'd also put Amanda in the game to act as a failsafe. He had a clear backup in mind there. You're telling me he really went "no trust me when this guy picks up a suspicious tape recorder, he always walks 45 degrees away from the lift point and takes four steps before pushing play. That's where I'll put the snare."
@LindsCat614
@LindsCat614 8 ай бұрын
Cole, the pure joy on your face when Billy makes his appearance is one of my favorite parts! 😂 I’m glad I’m also not the only one who gets strangely entertained by Ryan throughout the movie. As always, thanks for all the entertainment! :)
@BigGator5
@BigGator5 8 ай бұрын
"The truth will set you free." Fun Fact: Upon the film's success, Twisted Pictures greenlit the next two installments. Redesign Fact: Billy The Puppet appears in an alternative form in the film, bearing neon eyes that are a more polished porcelain visage. Flat Screen Fact: This is the first film that has one of Jigsaw's (Tobin Bell) videos being played on a flat screen. The previous installments feature the instructional videos on various late-1990s televisions. Spiralizer Trap Fact: The means for Mitch (Mandela Van Peebles) to survive "The Spiralizer" is to remain completely still until he was able to reach the emergency brake which, while using one hand, would receive a minor injury when he would pull the brake. This would stop the motorcycle that is powering the helix blender machine he is being lowered into.
@duckielove2286
@duckielove2286 8 ай бұрын
So jigsaw is both prequel and sequel. Logan is indeed the first apprentice and I guess he was at war that’s why he’s not in the rest of the movies
@TheTreyVision
@TheTreyVision 8 ай бұрын
Logan is the best and more effective apprentice HANDS DOWN! No question. I hope they do more with him in the future.
@kidayagaming956
@kidayagaming956 8 ай бұрын
The biggest issue with Jigsaw is that it's theoretically not Canon to the rest of the franchise, due to timeline inconsistencies it can't be placed properly in the original timeline.
@aceking30
@aceking30 8 ай бұрын
Ahhh been waiting for this 😂😂 glad you liked it
@Joker_JAK
@Joker_JAK 8 ай бұрын
Yo, man! Thanks for the upload. You're the GOAT, my friend. I enjoyed this movie. May not be AS good as some of the others, but it's still a good time.
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
My main man Joker Jak!! I appreciate the love my friend. Always happy to upload and hang with you and the homies! And this movie was fun for sure! Not the best but not a bad watch at all! Always happy to see more John back story
@Joker_JAK
@Joker_JAK 8 ай бұрын
I know people aren't major fans of Logan, but maybe he could return in a sequel to SAW X.
@SimbaEdits77
@SimbaEdits77 8 ай бұрын
Bro you have the best reactions man. I really enjoy ur vibe. I discovered ur channel when u did the scream franchise and now i watch every video since. Please never stop ur channel!!
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
Ayeee I appreciate that my friend! I don’t plan on stopping anytime soon so we’ll be riding the cool vibes for years to come, I promise! I’m happy you have been a part of the Scream and Saw marathons because they are the foundation that built the channel. Many more marathons to come and it’ll be a fun ride, so thanks for hanging with me as always! 🙏🧩🪚
@nathaniellowe5100
@nathaniellowe5100 8 ай бұрын
And now we come to the question you asked at the end of saw 7. Who were the three pig masks. Gordan. Logan. And One more. Well. The post credit scene in saw X in the bathroom. No Adam body. Lawrence said he would go back for him... Logan survived the game because John mixed up the dose of sedatives, and Logan mixed up the x-rays. Cancelled it out. So the theory now I have is that its the three of them. I would very much like to see them interact on screen together. Maybe with Hoffman surviving, starting a cult? Jigsaw International. A war of succession as it were.
@sammitchell3657
@sammitchell3657 8 ай бұрын
Someone said it was the two guys from the first trap in 7 aka Saw 3D.
@dgchvz
@dgchvz 8 ай бұрын
My only problem with this movie is the twist is super contrived even for Saw standards and he ended with “I speak for the dead” instead of the classic “game over.” But I’m glad it exists for its traps and I feel it inspired Saw X in some ways.
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
The twist did feel forced. And they tried to set it up the whole movie, which I think hurt the story. I feel like a great movie is somewhere in the mix but it didn’t stick the landing for me. Still a fun movie and I loved Logan!
@rodgill9376
@rodgill9376 8 ай бұрын
To be fair, no one EVER complained about the "Game Over" line not being used in Saw 5. Why does Jigsaw always get shit on for that? 5 ain't all that special either!
@dgchvz
@dgchvz 8 ай бұрын
@@rodgill9376 the problem isn't that the ending has to use the "game over" line, several Saw movies didn't end with "game over." The problem is they recreated the ending of the Saw movies that DID use the "game over" line, and then made up a new (and subjectively lame) line.
@rodgill9376
@rodgill9376 8 ай бұрын
@@dgchvz The only films that never used the line was 5, Jigsaw, Spiral and X. The line was used in the others. But I've often heard people bitching about the game over line never being used in Jigsaw but also no one ever complains about 5 never having that line either. I cannot stand the double standards of the fandom at times. That's the issue I have with it. You cannot have your cake and eat it too and that's one of those times sadly. I don't have an issue with the line "I speak for the dead." But yes, its all subjective.
@dgchvz
@dgchvz 8 ай бұрын
@@rodgill9376 Saw 3, 4, 5, and 6 also did not end with a “game over” line. People have a problem with Jigsaw because the ending was literally the same as Saw, Saw II, and Saw 3D (Jigsaw closing a sliding door to a room) but subjectively worse. And people don’t complain about any of the other endings because they were well done.
@cattymeow95
@cattymeow95 8 ай бұрын
I loved this reaction :) The movie: *Bunch of people in a death trap, murder everywhere, dude in a blender, the usual* Anna: *kills her baby* This guy: Wow this just got really dark and fucked up out of nowhere Just wondering, where did the spiral reaction go? It says it’s been taken down and is unavailable in my country :(
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
So it got copyright claimed by Lionsgate and they blocked it in 90 countries lol. I’m working on getting it fixed but it takes a really long time to work through the claims appeal process In KZfaq. If for some reason it gets denied, I’ll try to reupload it. For now I’d say use a VPN to say you’re in America 👀
@rodgill9376
@rodgill9376 8 ай бұрын
And yes, I think you should watch Spiral since its still apart of the Saw universe and to just get it over with so you can move on to more horror film series. Would love to see you react to other stuff after you're done with Spiral. But yes, that one is also interesting and quite mixed among fans, myself included.
@Emiigiirl
@Emiigiirl 8 ай бұрын
Hi Cole! I remembered absolutely nothing about this movie then it all came flooding back. I really enjoyed re-watching this with you! There’s just something about you that makes you such a good KZfaqr. You’re just so naturally funny and charismatic. ✨ I have no doubt that because of that, along with your hard work ethic, you will have all the success in the world of KZfaq, my friend. 🙏🏻
@GreyAutumnOrchid
@GreyAutumnOrchid 8 ай бұрын
This one’s not my favorite but it has its moments. I’ve been a fan of the Saw franchise since I saw the original in the theater so I’ll watch anything in the Saw universe as part of a rewatch. I’m glad you’ve continued on and I’ve really enjoyed watching along!!
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
Only one more movie to go 💔🥲 it’s been a fun journey but all great marathons must come to an end! I’m happy you’ve been watching along with me though and I hope I enjoy Spiral!
@leesagar8651
@leesagar8651 8 ай бұрын
There's no movie confirmation but the writers of Saw said that Hoffman never got out of the bathroom when Dr Gordon put him there
@Rae674
@Rae674 8 ай бұрын
Omg! I'm glad that you watched the movie! I hope you have a great day/night! I honestly cant wait for even more movies that you might watch! ❤ or maybe some live streams! And I'm honestly glad that I watched your vids! Where its cool to be dorks!
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching along with me! For sure some livestreams coming your way soon! I hope you have a great day/night and we’ll be talking again real soon, I promise!!
@s.c.sanchez1610
@s.c.sanchez1610 8 ай бұрын
Bringing back Tobin Bell & calling the movie Jigsaw instead of Saw 8, along with attempting to trick the audience that Kramer was still alive, was just an attempt to soft reboot the series & give fans what they wanted (which was more John) while still being tied to the franchise without necessarily contradicting what came before.
@Lazrael32
@Lazrael32 8 ай бұрын
honestly i think making fans think Kramer was still alive is why a lot of people seem to really dislike this movie. it's not the BEST saw film, but it's not bad. Kind of missing the aesthetic. but i would have liked to see a jigsaw 2. (maybe we still will. probably not though with the success of Saw X)
@StankyShorts
@StankyShorts 8 ай бұрын
I hope you do react to Spiral! It has its issues, but I think the hate on it is overblown, there’s still a decent amount to like and despite being a spin-off it has enough Saw in its DNA to feel somewhat like the other films. It’s also directed by Darren Lynn Bousman (who directed II, III, and IV)!
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
Having Darren direct does make me feel better about the movie then. Thanks for that knowledge!!
@Dashie_124
@Dashie_124 8 ай бұрын
I love this series 😭
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
It’s so good! I’m sad people dismiss it because if the gore because I love the storyline!
@enigma_offixial
@enigma_offixial 8 ай бұрын
I love how John says Anna and Mitch will be killed by grain engulfment, but then they get buried up to their chests and attacked with a flying Home Depot delivery😂😂😂😂. Fucking John over here breaking his rules even before the original Saw movie
@gigimadison8821
@gigimadison8821 8 ай бұрын
Oh, I was waiting for this one!
@sophiecooper1824
@sophiecooper1824 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad you checked this out. It was the first Saw movie i watched in the movie theater because i was finally old enough. The main game is pretty cool ( continuity was a little screwed because apparently John was the first to own flat screens 😂) , i actually really liked Logan as an apprentice , i definitely thought it was Eleanor. I remember after watching it i went back home and googled the website jigsawrules and was disappointed that it wasn't real. Would have been cool. Some movies and shows do that. And of course Tobin Bell in his shortest appearance yet which will be topped by Spiral with 0 seconds screentime 😭 . But the short time he had in Jigsaw he delivered like always ❤
@sophiecooper1824
@sophiecooper1824 8 ай бұрын
@@nachgeben no need to be so sarcastic 🙄 jesus . You must be fun at parties
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
Very big missed opportunity not having a Jigsawrules website up and running for this movie!! That would have been amazing but maybe they were afraid something wild would happen 😂 and I’m hoping I can enjoy Spiral even with a lack of Jigsaw. I’m going in with an open mind but dang it seems like there’s very little love for it
@sophiecooper1824
@sophiecooper1824 8 ай бұрын
@@TheDorkSideTV there are definitely people who like it I'm sadly not among them but i hope you still enjoy it for what it is.
@jonmacleod7137
@jonmacleod7137 8 ай бұрын
I actually LOVED this movie. Great kills. Elaborate traps. I especially loved the last one, with the guy's head falling open like a CHILI'S onion blossom. "Scream, or don't" That was cold. I think you're gonna love SPIRAL.
@monstermastergodzilla6813
@monstermastergodzilla6813 8 ай бұрын
As I said, I find this one a breath of fresh air after Saw V to VII. Before Jigsaw came out, I hadn't loved a Saw movie since Saw IV at the the time. This one I'm impressed. As for the apprentice, I STILL prefer Amanda. She's my girl!
@lorenzo_smit
@lorenzo_smit 8 ай бұрын
I honestly think this is one of the worst Saw movies only topping part 7. But I’m happy other people were able to enjoy it
@themegagamer6086
@themegagamer6086 8 ай бұрын
The honest mistake was John's because he had put slightly more sedative which caused him to wake up mid game instead of the intended start
@darrenrios4727
@darrenrios4727 8 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t rather wait on a video from anyone else! Your reaction was well worth the wait! I’m glad that you found some enjoyment out of the movie, it’s definitely not one of my favorites either. Curious to see your thoughts on Spiral and to see where you go next! Can’t wait for the next stream either!
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
The next livestream should be on Monday or Tuesday 🙏 that’s why you’re always a pimp in my book Darren!
@livingcorpse5664
@livingcorpse5664 8 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, I've been waiting for you to cover the (sort of) spin offs.
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
Sorry for the delay! I should have Spiral out faster though. I enjoyed this one but I can see why people wouldn’t be a huge fan
@livingcorpse5664
@livingcorpse5664 8 ай бұрын
@@TheDorkSideTV No problem man, take your time. It ensures the video is better quality to not be rushed.
@Chimii98
@Chimii98 8 ай бұрын
It's the laughter and facial expressions for me 🤣🤣🤣🤣 the expression "pig masking it " sends me
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
I love the phrase “Pig masking it” so I hope it catches on 😂😂😂
@anotherhealingjourneybegins
@anotherhealingjourneybegins 8 ай бұрын
Been binge watching your Saw and Final Destination reactions. They've helped me get through some seasonal depression, thanks for doing these! Not sure if you've seen Alice in Borderland on Netflix but would love to see reaction vids to that series. Lots of cool Saw-like moments and an excellent story. I hope you're having a great day🙌✨️
@reesielovesyou
@reesielovesyou 8 ай бұрын
Cole!! So glad you watched this and sooooo glad you didn’t hate it lol. I get why people disliked it, I think it kinda crapped on John’s legacy a little bit
@kathywhite9411
@kathywhite9411 8 ай бұрын
You laughing at the car exploding is the best!🤣
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
I don’t know what it is about cars exploding on impact but it just makes me laugh so hard. I think because of how ridiculous it is 😂😂😂
@kathywhite9411
@kathywhite9411 8 ай бұрын
@@TheDorkSideTV it really is!😂
@1Adam20
@1Adam20 8 ай бұрын
@22:41 Manpower? Just go to heavy machinery location rentals, because you will be having to open up the vault, and then hoisting the casket. My Great Uncle worked for a funeral parlor, and me and my sister spent probably too much time playing hide and go seek here.
@irishgamerkerrielouise
@irishgamerkerrielouise 8 ай бұрын
"I speak for the dead" 🔥
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
Hard ass line for real
@TheAmazingAdam
@TheAmazingAdam 8 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this movie because I fell for that twist in theaters. I was like HOLY SHIT THEIR RETCONNING HIS DEATH? I don't know, this is one of my personal favorites because of that and as a reboot to the franchise, it did it right imo though I preferred them bringing back Hoffman and Eleanor's great. I love that they wrote in an obsessed Jigsaw fan who may just become Logan's new helper because El's sort of a Jigsaw expert. Logan to me is as smart as Hoffman because he's working on the inside and possibly even better than Hoffman as a Jigsaw apprentice just because he didn't work his game out of vengeance. Though I'd love to see Hoffman vs. Logan. Logan may be my favorite Jigsaw apprentice side by side Hoffman. "I speak for the dead!" Logan had great motive and I literally did not see the main character becoming the new Jigsaw killer but I loved that twist and it made sense with it explaining at the end. I find myself loving this movie the more times I watch it. I don't know, it just felt like a great way to bring the franchise back and creating a new story with a new Jigsaw killer trying to rid of the corrupt cops and make the city a better place. Honestly, probably the best choice to continue the Jigsaw killings. But I need a Hoffman/Logan confrontation :D. Spiral I will say isn't my favorite at all but go ahead and watch it and give your own thoughts.
@TheAmazingAdam
@TheAmazingAdam 8 ай бұрын
@KoraJayde-TeeJay Lol I do that so many times with horror movies. Like I have a top 3 list that has almost all the Saw movies in it 😂.
@kajuaarche452
@kajuaarche452 8 ай бұрын
When you said “is he supposed to be the guy that was sleep” I was thinking “Oh you have no idea” lol
@RS-bn1ty
@RS-bn1ty 8 ай бұрын
I think a lot of people didn’t like this one but I loved the end of it, nice little twist imo
@Chubby_Runs
@Chubby_Runs 8 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie, I really like this movie, I think it’s pretty fun
@iggyiggz1999
@iggyiggz1999 8 ай бұрын
Definitely do watch Spiral! Really curious to see what you think of it!
@paulinekeown2472
@paulinekeown2472 8 ай бұрын
So happy to see a new video from you, Cole! I've ran out of your videos to watch lol You're my favorite reaction channel, especially with the Saw franchise! I plan on joining your Patreon soon.
@a1sawse939
@a1sawse939 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for your reaction on this one it’s my favourite one and I love the ending
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
That ending with the laser collar was wild!! Loved that part and I enjoyed this movie! I wish I could call it my favorite but there were a few things that just didn’t vibe with me man. I think it’s dope that you love it so much though! That’s the great thing about a 10 movie franchise, everyone has their own favorite! I hope my reaction was a fun watch along man! Thanks for hanging with me!
@zaiiiiin.__
@zaiiiiin.__ Ай бұрын
Fun fact! to others who still don’t get it. Logan Nelson is the very first apprentice of Kramer. Yep. He’s not just another apprentice but the very first apprentice of Kramer himself. like Eleanor said The game was built 10 years ago which was before all the other saw movies. And Nelson seems to be the most manipulative and intelligent apprentice of Kramer. So in short this was basically the very first saw movie but since it’s now in the future where Kramer is dead. His first apprentice only helped him build his traps and not actually help him capture criminals… That makes him the very first apprentice of Kramer who made his move 10 years after the very first game Kramer built. Therefore it only comes out after several other saw movies. Compared to amanda, Nelson is more manipulative, Intelligent, and a very good trap maker.
@KingdomHeart556
@KingdomHeart556 8 ай бұрын
Yea too many people hate on this movie: at the very least they can all admit we needed this in order to eventually get saw x
@kyleconner6095
@kyleconner6095 8 ай бұрын
I'm a Jigsaw apologist. I actually really liked this film. Spiral, on the other hand... WOOF! That movie is t-t-trash. Good luck with that one lol.
@a1sawse939
@a1sawse939 8 ай бұрын
11:24 not exactly but he is in the same room though 😂😂😂that’s the trippy part knowing it was Logan who was the guy in the bucket hat in the beginning who woke up late
@kacpersibirski5407
@kacpersibirski5407 8 ай бұрын
for me, the saw series ends with the seventh part, what comes after it doesn't count as a continuation, after all this time, I'm still impatiently waiting for the great return of hoffman who will continue the work of jigsaw even if he considered him unworthy of continuing his work. As for the movie, it's not that I like it or I don't like it, I just know it's there but I don't watch it if I don't have to
@sharonjoan1970
@sharonjoan1970 8 ай бұрын
Yes! Great Timing❤ i enjoyed Jigsaw, I adore Matt Passmore I Loved Glades, still very mad they canceled it on that cliffhanger😢 they could of at least given us a 2 hour follow up and proper send off...
@PigBoy99
@PigBoy99 8 ай бұрын
Wait, it got cancelled!?
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
I’ll have to check Glades out because Matt was amazing in this! He was like a perfect blend of all the precious apprentices combined. Jigsaw was a good edition to the franchise but I do wish they could’ve focused on the story a little more instead of trying to set up the big reveal. Either way, I had fun!
@sharonjoan1970
@sharonjoan1970 8 ай бұрын
@PigBoy99 They ended season 4 with a hell of a cliffhanger, when searching for when season 5 would premiere found out it got canceled apparently ratings were down, and they canceled it. Still salty, they could have at least given those of us that loved it closure.
@PigBoy99
@PigBoy99 8 ай бұрын
@@sharonjoan1970 oh, thought you meant a Logan-focused sequel
@sammitchell3657
@sammitchell3657 8 ай бұрын
27:00 see that's what makes me think Hoffman has been around for quite a while. How would've John known that she was the reason for the death of the baby? How did he get that information. Only a Detective/cop would've known the information and got information to the details. I would say Hoffman did some digging, and found her. Logan may be the guy that made the reverse bear trap from the first one and has been there since the beginning...BUT ..I think Hoffman's been around longer than they've said he has. Maybe we'll learn more down the road.
@sophiecooper1824
@sophiecooper1824 8 ай бұрын
I have a suggestion for a song reaction. The Jig is up by Ice Nine Kills and yes it's about Saw. I think you'd really enjoy it. I recommend you watch a version that shows you the lyrics cause it's sometimes hard to understand. Hope you'll think about it. Love your reactions
@scottyb003
@scottyb003 4 ай бұрын
I watched this a couple of weeks ago. I didn't really care for it. I'm about to watch Spiral.
@rainbowkitten8990
@rainbowkitten8990 4 ай бұрын
9:03 Lady IT WAS YOUR FAULT 😂
@a1sawse939
@a1sawse939 8 ай бұрын
20:45 of all the things to be put in a trap for, it just had to be because he killed jigsaws nephew 😂😂😂😂😂now that’s what I called being screwed
@Gary_King1413
@Gary_King1413 8 ай бұрын
Kramer probably realized that Logan making the mistake of mislabeling the X-Rays was "forgivable" since Kramer gave Logan a higher dose than the others by accident, an honest mistake
@a1sawse939
@a1sawse939 8 ай бұрын
27:01 literally what I said too, it got real dark quit 😢😮
@duckielove2286
@duckielove2286 8 ай бұрын
So glad u watched this it’s not as bad as everyone says
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
Definitely not horrible! Not my favorite but still some enjoyable stuff in there. I like the idea of John’s first game
@CopiousTurtle
@CopiousTurtle 8 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this movie more than I enjoyed the Hoffman saga, personally. I am trying to appreciate these movies more, but initially I only enjoyed 1, 2, 5, 6, and Jigsaw. I don’t enjoy the insane amount of apprentices John acquired over the series, but I liked Amanda, Dr. Gordon (favorite) and Logan. Amanda gets a pass for me because it was more of John trying to take her under his wing (which inevitably failed), and besides, it didn’t last long anyway. I like the idea of the apprentices in the future being in the medical field (and wished the overall story didn’t hang so closely to the police department). I still haven’t watched Saw X, but Spiral left a bad taste in my mouth. That’s the broad strokes version of my thoughts on this series. I do enjoy watching them, but there’s so many things I wish they didn’t do. I just realized that since I haven’t seen Saw X then I can only give my opinion on 9 movies and I liked 5 of them. I must not dislike the others quite as bad as I thought I did because I still consider myself a Saw fan.
@tjjordan4207
@tjjordan4207 19 күн бұрын
Unpopular opinion here, I actually like this movie. Although, I wouldn’t have done the “this happened a decade ago” cliche, but rather have Logan using an advanced mask to appear as John Kramer and mimic his voice in order to continue his legacy. The man was in the military and maybe an excuse could be used that he was also a black ops soldier, so he would have had access to special technology, which would explain why the game we saw in this film was so advanced in comparison to the others. Also, part of the reason why I like this film is how I went from disliking Ryan to liking him, as he truly felt remorse for what he did and he also did try to save the others. He even tried to save Anna from firing the gun when he realized that it would backfire on her, despite knowing shat she did and was trying to kill him. The guy may not have been a fully developed character but he had the most out of anyone in the movie.
@jasonbanuelos7569
@jasonbanuelos7569 8 ай бұрын
I don’t consider this canon but it is somewhat fun when I don’t consider it part of the main story
@fundido_a_negro
@fundido_a_negro 8 ай бұрын
Watch Spiral, please. Just to end with the franchise 😭😭
@Maddenfoot24
@Maddenfoot24 8 ай бұрын
He just peeled like a fucking flower 😂😂😂
@Alex-jp3ph
@Alex-jp3ph 8 ай бұрын
Excellent reaction, please don't forget to react to Spiral from the book of saw (saw 9)..greetings from Ecuador
@CipherSpectral
@CipherSpectral 8 ай бұрын
Cant wait for you to watch Spiral It Has some of the most brutal traps ever
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
That is exciting to hear!! I’m all about some wild traps 😂
@BKvartS
@BKvartS 8 ай бұрын
One of my favorite movies in the franchise. Logan is an awesome Jigsaw protege and he is still alive. Halloran and Anna got what they deserved. And you know what's funny? That John actually spared Logan not only because his crime was an honest mistake, but because John nearly became a murderer in a way he understood - he overdosed Logan and didn't give him a chance during the game. And in fact, if it wasn't for him, John's games would have been more hypocritical - would have come from anger and vengeance. And the cherry on the cake is that John didn't force Logan to stay as an apprentice - he let him go.
@arveanas
@arveanas 8 ай бұрын
Not my favorite but loved the traps regardless. Your reactions are the best! 😂 Also, have you watched/reacted to the movie Silent Hill? Just the first one. I'm curious because if not, I hope you'll react to it. 😊
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen the movies or played the games! I’ve heard they are creepy as hell though!
@arveanas
@arveanas 8 ай бұрын
@@TheDorkSideTV I've only played 1 of the games and had to stop because it creeped me out 😂 The games and the first movie have different plots.
@malizee2264
@malizee2264 8 ай бұрын
You said it perfectly… I don’t hate it, but… and I completely agree with your critique. Very much enjoyed watching it with you as always!!! ❤👏🏽 Ok, so… I still haven’t actually seen saw x! 😩 but it’s not my fault! I got Covid right before it came out and then I started working more hours 😢 but as soon as I see it, I’ll be watching you see it! 😉😁
@lizthewiz791
@lizthewiz791 8 ай бұрын
Watching this reaction made me realize I barley remember this movie
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
A lot of people seem to feel the same way lol
@jenniferferguson1517
@jenniferferguson1517 6 ай бұрын
Pricking your finger actually hurts worst than a small cut to the forearm. Your fingers have more nerve endings then your forearm
@Hatsune-Miku_Fan
@Hatsune-Miku_Fan 8 ай бұрын
14:31 wait so this movie takes place before anythinh else it's earlier than saw 1 but have these flat scren tvs??
@albert20001000
@albert20001000 8 ай бұрын
You Look Like Eli Portala! He Does Magic!
@umbrellacorp5562
@umbrellacorp5562 8 ай бұрын
I would also give Spiral a watch as well. It's still in the same timeline, but does not directly tie into the John Kramer storyline. The ending alone, as well as a couple of the traps keep it watchable.
@Newby826
@Newby826 8 ай бұрын
We must be brothers I said that his legs just turned into pork salami 😂
@SakuraAngel456
@SakuraAngel456 8 ай бұрын
I liked this one
@Kerrit
@Kerrit 8 ай бұрын
I say finish with spiral even tho it’s not that good! I wanna see how you like it or not :) ❤
@cooliostarstache5474
@cooliostarstache5474 8 ай бұрын
While I personally don't like the Jigsaw movie (I prefer Spiral), I love watching you watch it! I did like Eleanor, the Jigsaw fangirl, though. I thought she was pretty cool
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
I thought she was very interesting for sure. It was a cool angle to keep us on our toes for that ending twist
@LuckyHyde
@LuckyHyde 8 ай бұрын
I liked this one a whole of a lot better then spiral. It’s pretty good. Not as good a 1,2 or 4 but it up there.
@HMaxadrin47
@HMaxadrin47 8 ай бұрын
That's cool. waiting for the spiral
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
The Spiral video got blocked in a lot of countries 😬 here’s a link to the video to see if it works for you: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q9CUY5R5nNKYpWQ.html
@HMaxadrin47
@HMaxadrin47 8 ай бұрын
@@TheDorkSideTV Oh, I'm sorry. Thanks for the link. Good luck.
@AlexisStreams
@AlexisStreams 8 ай бұрын
i agree with you they oh john kramer was still alive gimmick was overused in this movie, it would have been better if they teased that hoffman escaped his trap(Which we will see if they revisit the bathroom trap dr gordon put hoffman in) and that he was behind this, or if dr gordon was behind this
@micklefox
@micklefox 8 ай бұрын
I’m not a fan of either Jigsaw or Spiral (which I won’t talk about here) but I dislike them for very different reasons... Jigsaw specifically just lacks atmosphere and has no energy in it. It feels very soft compared to the other films and I just don’t find the story all that compelling. The writing isn’t great, but if the film had more in common with the established visual elements and presentation of the other films I feel like it could have smoothed out some of the storytelling issues. In the end, the film feels really sterile and isn’t very fun to watch. So, I only bother with it when reactors view it for the first time and I listen to their thoughts on it. Been LOVING your marathon of the Saw movies though!
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
That’s why you’re a real one out here! Watching the reaction to a movie you don’t like is as pimp as they come 😂 I appreciate that
@doctorwooga
@doctorwooga 8 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this movie. It’s definitely one of my least favorites but as a Saw fan I still enjoyed it thoroughly. Thanks for watching man! Here’s to the last game: Spiral.
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
On to Spiral!!
@doctorwooga
@doctorwooga 8 ай бұрын
@@TheDorkSideTV YES SIR!!!
@aranerem5569
@aranerem5569 8 ай бұрын
Hi there
@ambercline8028
@ambercline8028 3 ай бұрын
Am I missing something here? Out of all the saw movies I never heard of John having a nephew or siblings. Anybody’s thoughts?
@venticated6012
@venticated6012 8 ай бұрын
IMO they should have made Jigsaw 2 and not freaking dumb Spiral lol
@TheAmazingAdam
@TheAmazingAdam 8 ай бұрын
YESSSSS. I would of loved to see more on Logan and Eleanor. Spiral is my least favorite out of the whole franchise (will rant about Spiral once he reacts to it so I won't spoil anything for Cole). But Spiral had a great setup and felt like a Saw film and not to mention Logan had a connection to John and we could of had an epic Hoffman/Logan confrontation. I wonder what Hoffman would of thought of Logan? Eleanor could be Logan's helper, the new Amanda. They set it up that way. I don't get why they didn't continue the story.
@Lazrael32
@Lazrael32 8 ай бұрын
yeah. they were going to. till chris rock contacted them. The director basically said the producers were so excited to have Chris Rock in the film that they basically made him make the movie chris rock wanted to make. BUT in case it wasn't successful he wasn't allowed to use John Kramer, The Saw/Jigsaw title, the voice style, Billy, ect. there was so much interference with what the director wanted that explains why it came out the way it did.
@83shadow3
@83shadow3 8 ай бұрын
I feel this is a decent sequel in the Saw movie franchise. It adds new elements like a anthor apprentice an explains some more of John Kramers past. What more can you ask for from a sequel you get some new stuff. Along with some explanation of some old stuff. Now about John sparring him because it was a honest mistake. It makes sense because he didn't put the wrong name on the x-ray. On perpus it was a mistake he didn't mean to cause any harm. Because if you look at all the other people he put into the games. Those people knowingly and willingly did those things. They knowingly and willingly hurt people or lied to people or kill people or themselves. They had a option not to do it but they chose to do it anyway. So they made a choice to lie , hurt or kill someone or themselves. That shows they don't care about life but in this one the guy made a honest mistake without knowing he made it. So John Kramer spared him an took him under his wing an helped him. Because even John Kramer knew an unstood that honest mistakes happen. He made some himself you lose focus for one second then you do something. You never meant to do like accidentally cut yourself or something. So John Kramer came to understand that the guy didn't swap the names on perpus. He was just doing alot of things an it just happened by random chance. Unlike the rest of the people in that game they knowingly and willingly did what they did. Fully knowing the consequences of those actions to other people. Then they never came clean about what they did so they where never punished for it. So John Kramer had some morals if you never. Knowingly and Willingly hurt or lied or killed anyone or yourself. You were making a honest mistake because you never meant to lie or hurt or kill someone or yourself. So you value your life an other people's life. But if you go out of your way to lie or hurt or kill someone or yourself. You don't value your life or anyone else life so you would get tested.
@fakenuke7487
@fakenuke7487 8 ай бұрын
I myself liked Jigsaw, it was fun but definetely pretty weak. Still leagues better than 3D for me tho
@whyjordie
@whyjordie 8 ай бұрын
I like Jigsaw but the LED eyes and flat screens when it’s supposed to be a prequel…. Felt like a cheap way of tricking the audience about timelines. Also, Spiral is awful but I’ll watch your reaction 😂
@ztomas1
@ztomas1 8 ай бұрын
You should react to Hereditary or the Paranormal activity movies
@rodgill9376
@rodgill9376 8 ай бұрын
Oh boy... this one was... something else lol. Plot and story wise, it could have been much better but I did find it interesting in the sense that they tried to make it seem like Jigsaw somehow faked his death. After we all watched him DIE in Saw 3. Of course, it's always a pleasure hearing John's voice and seeing him. Dude... Anna was such a... ugh. She is one of the most unlikable characters of the series and for good reason. I was sick to my stomach finding out that she not only killed her own child but the fact that she lied about it and made her husband take the fall for it and later "unaliving" himself thinking that he did it was super BULLSHIT and that pissed me off so badly. And... she got her dumb ass killed while also condemning Ryan to die a slow, painful death was just the icing on the cake. Of course, Cecila from Saw X dethroned Anna as one of the most hated characters recently. I also was shocked that John had a nephew that ended up dying due to Mitch. He got what he deserved as far as I'm concerned. The traps were not the best but I did like some of them. I think my favorites were the bucket heads, the cycle trap and the laser collars. They were wild. I also thought Logan was kind of cool too. I loved some of his quotes. "You have a choice: scream... or don't" and "I speak for the dead" was badass! But yes, this one has its flaws and issues! Not quite on the same level as 5 or 3D but up there lol. Another thing I liked was the opening scene and musical cue for that one. It felt super different from what I was used to. Hearing "Hello Zepp" in a very catchy and upbeat tone caught me off guard when I first heard it. Felt more like an action kind of thing going on! Was kind of disappointed that its not on the soundtrack.
@horrorbym
@horrorbym 8 ай бұрын
I feel like they were doing way too much and they have so many unanswered questions. I do see potential in Logan’s character but it’s definitely one of my least favorites of the franchise
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
Spot on! That’s how I feel as well. It was overcomplicated but I did like the edition of Logan. It had some fun traps but it just had a different vibe from the 1-7 movies
@MrsMedicate
@MrsMedicate 8 ай бұрын
I liked Jigsaw more than Saw 3D
@kellypanda4243
@kellypanda4243 8 ай бұрын
I like it but don't love it. It prob my lowest ranked saw movie but it's still a saw movie so it's great.
@chloestarshine
@chloestarshine 8 ай бұрын
I like this movie but it is very illogical and I don't like what it does to the lore, and the whole futuristic technology in the game compared to what we've actually seen of John's first games, it doesn't add up. I still like it way more than Spiral though!
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
Yeah after realizing the twist, I had to go back and see how many things were out of place lol. And I hope I can find something good about Spiral! My expectations are so low that I might enjoy it hahaha
@mrgood91082
@mrgood91082 8 ай бұрын
@The Dork Side not the worst, but you know how I feel about the movies w/o the Hoff-A-Na-Tor..! What did you think of this installment?
@TheDorkSideTV
@TheDorkSideTV 8 ай бұрын
It’s was fun but not my favorite. It tried really hard to sell that twist and it just wasn’t vibing with me like I wanted. Still enjoyed the game though and Logan was pretty boss
@mrgood91082
@mrgood91082 8 ай бұрын
@@TheDorkSideTV it was going in circles acting like John was alive, & not enough time w/Eleanor… don’t hate it, because like I said the previous comment John being in those few scenes saved this movie for me, but nevertheless Spiral is still dumpster juice, because the key to the movies are John.
@Ghostface1998
@Ghostface1998 8 ай бұрын
Again it’s another lazy reveal of another apprentice that never showed up. The messing with time twist was performed sm better in saw 2. Traps are pretty unmemorable except the spiral trap. I hate the way the movie is shot it’s so weird especially Billy like wha did they do to him. Once again they try to put in jigsaw for a little bit cause they know killing him off so early was a mistake.
@1Adam20
@1Adam20 8 ай бұрын
@16:38 at the risk of inserting realism...You can stand on grain. #thatisall
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