Ah, also, Tetsuko I think is a trap in this deck. I ended up cutting it every time since your commander gives your rogues +1/+1. If you have your commander it's a vanilla 2/4

i've seen the exact scenario Joe's talking about with Gonti. dude was tutoring for his shadrix silverquill and thought he'd lost the card, not realizing it was face down on an opponents board. we all had a pretty good laugh.

11:27 I should always be standard ramp! Actually, since precons usually have a ton of basics, I really should just be included in pretty much all of them.

I have had this precon sitting in a deck box on a shelf untouched for a long while working on other things. Was just looking at it the other day to start cutting the chaff and then you guys drop this gem. Rogues tribal just sounded like silly fun when I first saw it. Thanks for giving him some love and throwing this together.

I love scheming symmetry in Anowon. You cast it in your first main and mill their card in combat

An AWESOME graveyard hate that might just be a straight upgrade to the deck is Dauthi Voidwalker. It's a rogue, it's unblockable, it exiles everything, AND if you want to cast something Anowon mills into it, you can do that for free.

I think Varragoth is more like a demonic tutor than a vampiric tutor with the commander in play, it searches before damage so if you have some sneaky boys, the commander can draw the searched card for you and it will be right on time

You guys seem so happy. I’m so happy for y’all. I love you guys. Thanks for being a part of every single one of my days at 11am.

Thanks Todd for bringing up this deck, I took apart my own Rogues precon to figure out how to fine tune it, This video was very helpful guys! :D

After a ton of testing with this deck, I can safely say that you guys missed two key cards here: Larceny (0.3usd hidden gem) and Reflections of littjara (you can not just copy your rogues but Notorious Throng too, and that's brutal!) In my particular case I swapped Anowon for Sygg because of speed. With that you can more confidently play some good 3 mana rocks like stix statium and dimir keyrune. Final note is that there a a ton of good equipment that trigger when a creature deals combat damage ~

I upgraded the standard edition of the precon and put Teferi's Veil in it. It works really well as you do not plan on blocking with your creatures anyway, so you might as well give it protection from everything until they can attack again.

Ooh.. this will be an interesting episode, I have this deck.. so taking notes The only problem with Tetsuko is that she has anti-synergy with your commander, due to the anthem, I don't think she's worth the deck slot in a lot of cases (since often times your board is answered via a board wipe, rather than targeted removal) I'll note for Varragoth, you can activate the ability at instant speed, right after you declare attacks with it, and this is notable because you can setup your next draw before combat damage is dealt, pairing with Anowon's ability (assuming you mill a creature) - you can pick what you need, and if he isn't answered, then you can do it again on subsequent turns as well (best card to get will likely be that Notorious Throng for yourself). And you could technically use it to politics on the table as well, say you're not in a good position on board and you're able to untap with this, you could help someone else get an answer to deal with the present board state - I'm usually thinking of archenemy scenarios because there often is one player that popped off at some point and you'd need to work together with other players to take them down a bit. Mostly my opinion and experiences though, my cousin pops off almost every single game, he usually doesn't end up winning most of them because he becomes the target for our early removal (of course, you need the cooperation of two of your opponents to do this sort of play, unless it's a card they want in their graveyard) Do like the considerations for this deck as a whole, one card I would probably recommend is Ashiok, Dream Render - while there are cards that count the cards in graveyards, you also don't want to fuel graveyard deck strategies. And the anti-tutor ability is widely applicable against a lot of decks (even just vs opponent's fetch lands, I do also favour this against my roommate, since he likes to play his Zur-Mill deck or his Captain Sisay-Historic deck, Ashiok shuts them down for many turns until they answer him). The other card I'd say is Scheming Symmetry, I think it'd be a nice inclusion, you could politics with it, or you can just ignore the downside by milling whatever they tutor

I disagree for Varragoth. Attack trigger, pay 2, then Anowon makes you draw that card. Isn't that good enough?

I'm not the biggest fan of Varragoth, but I do think it would work well in this deck. You can activate the Boast ability as soon as it attacks (before damage) meaning with all of the draw on hit/damage effects it allows you to get the card immediately.

Anowon draws you the card boasted by Varragoth so I’d say he’s a keeper. At least in my deck :)

Monarch would be a way to make for some fun game nights. Keeper of the Keys also happens to be a rogue.

My personal problem with Bauble specifically in anowon is that by using wayfarer's bauble on turn 1 you will have 0 rogues on your field guaranteed by the time anowon is able to be cast (unless you also opened sol ring). Dont get me wrong bauble is a great card especially in non-green but if bauble is your ramp even when compared to a vanilla generic mana 2 mana rock you still have your turn 1 to commit a rogue to board, and the difference between casting anowon on a board with rogues on it and casting it on a board without is huge.

You Nerds are killing it! Another awesome upgrade. 👌

Great deck tech and fun deck to play... one of the best pre-cons out of the box.

Tetsuko's effect goes in conflict with the pump provided from Anowon

Anowon is my commander I've been hoping you guys did a deck on him. It looks really good. However with tetsuko being in the deck I kinda question. She gets your 1/1 through,but once anowon is on the field they are now 2/2 and I tetsuko is now a dead card. Also No scheming symmetry? Sneaky tutor right there. Play that, let your opponent put their best card on top and you do to. Then attack, mill their card, then if you mill a creature you get your card, then you cast it. Super sneaky

Bloodchief's Ascension pulls so much weight in my Anowon rogue deck If you have it or you can get one it's just *chefs kiss* Rogue attacks to ensure it triggers then that constant micro mill for lifegain and chip damage

Ya nailed this upgrade grim hireling has been a superstar since i added it and its a rogue!!!! Plus ya can answer a creature threat with -1s if ya need to.

I'm someone who plays a ton of Anowon, he's one of my favorite commanders, and I would bring yard hate with Anowon every time. I agree that Graffdigger's cage is eh, but Soul-Guide is something I would run every time, but I would also recommend Ashiok, Dream Render. It's a nice way to hate on tutors, but the biggest upside is milling yourself. It feeds your Agadeem's and I also run Treasure cruise, Maruang River Prowler and Auntie's Snitch. I just love running as much graveyard synergies in every deck I play, even if I have to run a few "eh" cards. Meanwhile, love the Dauthi Voidwalker. I think it's fantastic yard hate that should be a 100% run (I don't because it's outside of my budget though >.>) Surprised you didn't talk about it in the video, since yard hate is so important for a deck that has to mill it's opponents to function.

Always love your videos. One video series I'd love to see (or just a random one off video to see how it does) would be making decks similar to Beezy's janky Karador deck - maybe patrons could submit their higher power level decks and have you guys build usable, but janky / fun decks without overlapping cards. Might be too much work but think it could be a lot of fun!

I love all the Letterkenny references you guys randomly drop!

I love how you guys are so hyped about how sneaky this deck is.

I want to point something out with Varragoth. So you attack, trigger it goes on top of you deck damage resolves you draw the card you just put on top. You aren’t really waiting for next turn to draw this guy. If the deck is doing what it is supposed to do, you are drawing that card in the same phase. Notorious throng maybe?

This was my first deck with blue in it. I think it's still my only one. I really liked Anowon lore-wise (I read the Zendikar novel) and the precon was a blast to play. I can't really compare my upgrade to what you guys did because I built it when it was pretty new and we've added so many rogues since then. I focused on making everyone unblockable and then having punishment for the milling. I'll have to come back to this video when I'm ready to update it.

War journal entry, 11/4/21: IT came by today, asking about some unrelated bs and asked, hey, what are you watching? Luckily, I was prepared for such low-brow, knuckle-dragging attempts at covert ops. I had a pandora tab readied with cello music - fugg you IT! Figure it out the hard way, ya beesh! YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE!

Even though I don’t have these decks and don’t plan on it, I always find cards I want!

Uh nice I like Anowon, I've built it in a ton of ways but might try this hot recipe.

Great video guys! And go bulls!!

Tetsuo is kinda bad since Anowon is going to pump all of your rogues out of the 1 power area lol.

I personally have played with Tetsuko, and after 10 or so games, i found no real value to him. Situational at best, your commander out should always be out in this deck, making Tetsuko moot. Strixhaven Stadium is what I replaced him with, and, wow, does this card put in WORK - worse case scenario, it soaks up mana rock hate, normal AND best case scenario is YOU WIN.

I won several games with my Anowon deck using Coat of Arms. That card is amazing.

With yarrogoth, does the boast effect take place before or after anowon’s effect? Cause then couldn’t you draw into it?

Where can I send u a list. I'm trying out budget decks and interested to see your guy's take on it

Been watching y’all for so long! Shame on me for not subscribing until now.

Vargoth is supposed to make the Defending Player tutor so that they mill it from Anowon's trigger.

Could you guys help me out with my Mogis, God of Slaughter deck built around doubling damage via cards like Angrath's Marauders Dictate of the Twin Gods and Furnace of Rath?

I upgraded this deck quite a bit ever since I bought it after playing against it. But haven't played it much in the last few months since the world reopened after COVID, decided to pull out last week. By around turn 10 (casual commander) my opponents were down to about 14 cards in their decks and I easily swept the rest of the game lol

How do you Summit a deck or two to be upgraded?

This looks like a fun deck. I like the style but I have it in opposite colours. Marisi baby Strixhaven Stadium is cool there too

I just found this video. We are doing a Challenge for a weekend in a summerhouse. 30€ tribal deck. Building Rogue with anowon. Would really like you guys to make a budget version 😍👍

ye tetsuko is kind of the biggest trap ever, as stated by everyone. 1) your rogues should already be evasive, why would you waste rogue slots on non-evasive rogues to specifically combo with umezawa...? 2) hey look your commanders out all of your rogues are at least 2 power/toughness and umezawa is useless, and like if anowon isnt out who cares if you can deal like 6 unblockable damage.

Duskmantle Guildmage + Mindcrank is a pretty good wombo combo on budget, plus you can play it all on one turn. Bloodchief ascension is great too but it’s slow and it’s a real hate magnet.

Really missed a golden opportunity for quietus spike. As well as the brother to rogues passage (access tunnel).

Just wanted to add an additional comment because I love this deck tech and I have a meme for ya: Xhibit meme: Yo dawg I heard you like sneaks in your land so I put more sneaks in your sneaks. How has no one talked about mutavault in this deck. A land that can turn into a rogue. Boom. Sneaky land!

if you're the type that's hesitant to make a new deck from scratch, the Anowon precon turns into Yuriko pretty successfully, you don't need as many ninjas as you'd think, just get few of the small evasive ones, a Spark double and sakashima from the list. You can make it strong a hell for like 25$ if you take some of the good dual land reprints from the Wilhelt precon. Varragoth is insane in yuriko decks. you can slowly buy the more expensive ninjas like higure, but he's still relatively cheap, he's probably the most expensive ninja you need.

Has anyone tried putting bitterblossom in an anowon deck? how was it?

Tetsuko Umezawa is a really bad include in this deck because Anowon is an anthem.

Used your TCG Player link!

Tetsuko umezawa's ability won't apply to any of your creatures once anowon is on the board lord buffing your party correct?

Left in Oona, Queen of the Fae? You cut this from the pre con. but no Agent of Treachery the sneakest rogue? Love the video BTW Your ideas about Varragoth got me thinking. I thought I would draw the card with Anowon's trigger but it has not happened yet.

hey cool, i just bought this deck a week ago

I think Varragoth is a homerun, since we're planning to draw the card anyway.

Im with beezy on the gonti cut. I recently took it out of my rogues deck

Dimir rogues......? ! ! ! Oh, how I've struggled to escape you! I.... miss.... you!...

I run an Anowon deck and the day I put Grim Hireling in, he became the MVP. Such a good add. One I’d recommend, switch Looter I’ll-Kor for Suspicious Stowaway. It’s always unblockable and has the chance to transform. The werewolf hits harder and doesn’t discard when he draws. But even if it never goes werewolf, it’s still objectively better.

Tetsuko is a non-bo with Anowon. Cause Anowon is a lord effect

Howdydoodee as soon as I saw this upload I zippidydooda'd right over here.

With a little prep Grim Hireling basically becomes a decent Jeska’s Will? That’s strong.

No mention of Bloodchief Ascension? It's an absolute game ender in this deck once it's online.

What deck are you talking about? Most of these “cuts” aren’t in the Precon?

Finally some love,

Cherries you a bullls fan !!

Remember fallen shinobi says play so you can play your opponent lands as well

Strixhaven stadium and Angel of Destiny are my favourite meme win cons

"I think you underestimate the sneakiness sir"

Nice

Tetsuko is a nonbo with anowan

Varragoth is great. Imagine that card said. 2 mana. Tutor for something. Every turn. He's gonna find a way to get evasion in this deck. Just stack this on top of the anawon trigger. Same with scheming semetry

You better have an episode on the new grave titan...Cemetery Desecrator I would rather have grave titan now.

MINION'S MURMURS (you must of forgotten your secret deck tech)

Strixhaven Stadium was my secret tech in Anowon......Secrets out I guess.

If mindcrank and your commander are both on the field all damage dealt by your rogues is essentially doubled, feel like cutting that is a miss.

Anowon is all I have. I enjoy his play style. It annoys everyone I’ve played with. Fits my personality well.

No Quietus Spike?

I am very very sneaky, sir.

I’m a big fan of Lazav, Dimir Mastermind in an anowon deck but he’s probably not that great lol

sword of the animist is bonkers in a deck like this just like dosing dagger

varragoth is much better in a different evasive creature deck. Yurriko. It really helps gets good yuriko triggers.

Tetsuko is such a nonbo with the commander, im not a fan of it

No zareth san?

What's a dragon shield?

I run every Rogue that steals things. I run cards to tutor my opponents decks. Steal things from their graveyards, and I have 1 infinite combo. Then counterspells

But where is field of the dead?

I play this deck, and hitting notorious throng while you have a reflection of littjara is disgusting😂

I come for the hot takes on grave titan, I stay for the improvised banter at the end!

Either of you two have a mullet growing up?

wheres.. Soaring thought thief D:

Oh God, stop. Guys, my wallet can only take so much strain.

You sexy spell slingers

First?

Second?

Gonti IS sneaky but he is also too slow. 4 is too much. Also *takes notes about grim hireling* card looks great.

I dream of the day that mtg will be played by normal people and I will be able to have normal conversations at the table. Why only weirdos and aspergers like this game? Why I have to cringe every time someone speaks?