Who's watching this in 2014?

I knew my boy Ansbach was cookin' but damn, he kept quiet on this one.

Miyazaki saw the people complaints about bows being bad. So he said fuck it, here, have your damage.

I appreciate that when you label something broken it actually is.

I believe the sharpshot talisman is not actually about headshots, it's just if you aim down 1st person with the bow

As someone who's made mods for Souls games, with the way the bullet param values would have to be set to achieve this behavior, there's no way this is unintentional. The damage value of each individual arrow would have to be set to the full damage that the ash of war does, and then they would've had to add a hit delay to the arrows, so only one of the bullets actually does damage. This is set up in a complex way that had to be deliberate.

"I see no issue" - The guy who just started his Bow-Only run

The Enraged Divine Beast talisman and the two lion head helmets seem to affect shots made with Stormwing Arrows and that can make this weapon have even nastier raw damage.

Okay, yes. That does seem unintentionally powerful. With that said... *Cmon man, I've been having to barrage with status arrows just to be passably viable since release. Us bow boys have been picking at scraps for years. Please, bro, I need this.* 🥺

It does cost 8 arrows each shot.

I think what's happening is that only two arrows will register on one target despite how many arrows went through the hitbox; because at 0:37 there're only two arrows visible on the troll's back, and at 1:33 you can sort of see that still only two lands and the rest just phase through your target like it doesn't exist. So in a sense you're not being rewarded by landing all 8, you're already getting max damage from this ash when you land 2/8 arrows. Not sure how it will work in PvP but I don't think it'll count the status as if all 8 arrows, most likely 2. With all that being said the damage per arrow is still pretty insane

Oh. It's even sillier Dark Bead. Guess we've been around long enough for that to make a comeback. Wonderful... Heh.

There's lots of stuff in the DLC that's like its from Monster Hunter, but I didn't think I'd see the Kelbie Bow in Elden Ring.

Y’know what, good for Ansbach. Another common Ansbach W.

didnt know how much i missed your souls content lol. glad to see you back for a while. keep it up man.

You didn't elaborate on status arrows, they must be crazy good with this bow.

Maybe it’s cause I’m a PvP archer, but it’s really nice to have something that can reliably do more than tickling and using a gimmick. If it does get fixed, I hope it’s not too nerfed.

Sorclets can't even let bowchads win for one second smh got no confidence in from fixing anything properly tbh, their go to way to nerf broken op stuff is to just make it unusable trash and forget it once they get around to actually patching like 3 months in or so

There's something fishy going on like with "Flame, fall upon them" incantation. So I'm going to explain it because most people might not realise how certain skills and spells calculate damage. To explain. Ansbach bow shoot 8 arrows but in 0:37, only two are stuck into the troll. That means: you need only two arrows to reach maximum damage with this thing. The same thing applies to incantation i brought up earlier. It only counts up to 3 fireballs hitting the target and damage is calculated for every of three fireballs hitting the target Yes, collision check still is done as it must be done. But only three of the 15 fireballs actually counts towards the damage of every separate enemy hit by it. So why multihit spells like crystal torrent hit like wet noddle in the early game and after certain point blast enemies for thousands of damage? Game calculates damage through both enemy flat defenses and all of the projectiles have low base damage. For Anshbach bow's ash and "Flame, fall upon them" there's a limit for how many projectiles can hit the target and base damage is waaaay higher. Without this limiter, this incant would hit for like 15K damage in single cast. I hope I explained some things ^^` Yeah, damage is pretty brutal to be completely honest and requirement of only two bullets is weird. I would understand if the limit was 6. This ash still consume 8 arrows per shot so it's a bit of a gamble if you can afford killing bosses with limited supply in higher ng. But... Bleed arrows exist to be honest. Edit: wrong number of fireballs

Oooh cool hope it gets fixed and still does similar total damage seems fun

Other attacks that have multiple projectiles at once also work in the same way, where you get the max damage out of a couple of them as all of them. Its not typically just one though.

I was not expecting a bow to be broken but ER once again surprised me

Now add storm arrows and put the divine beast head on for another multiplier and use the storm talisman over soaring sting for a bit more if you dont need the range

Im doing ansbach build and enjoying myself transferring between the bow and the reaper and i noticed this as well

The alien head messes up with the arrows. Haha

I mean I kind of appreciate it the way it’s working since I love being an archer and it’s always a struggle and feels more like a challenge run so it’s kind of nice to have a bow actually do some damage that’s at least as viable as a straight sword.

They have a lot to address in the future patch

We're slaying Bayle with this one 🗣🗣🗣🗣

Ive been doing a bow only run using this bow and yeah its so powerful. Probably not working the way they intended but god i hope they dont change it

Devs: ooooh oops, we should look into that! Community: Fuck you Scott, for letting the devs know about the broken bow ive been using. Me: ..... i'm more impressed with peoples tenacity towards using bows, and not just throwing them into the chest to declutter the moment they found a new one.

they gave this bow payday 2 shotgun physics lmfao

I fully expect an Oroboros video with this weapon very soon.

does fan shot count as piercing damage? if so, spear talisman might boost the damage even more. not sure which talisman i'd take off for it though.

Not sorry, bows are overdue and need a little love

2:26 - the bow clipping through your hand, while turning. As you're talking about how broken it is. Just really tickled me

And here I was thinking 'Well, I'm sure I'm not missing much' when I missed it

I’m going to take a week break for PvP until a patch lol

This is an interesting one. I have been running a dedicated dex build with Ansbach LB as a backup option and now that I saw your vid, I decided to test it out a bit more. Can confirm what you present here with the AoW BUT *I cannot replicate it 100% of the time*. Taking the example of the Fire Knights. Sometimes the really big buffed up damage of 5k+ happens, usually the damage hovers in the 1,5k to 2k mark but occasionally it just does a single arrow worth of damage. So there is something really whacky going on, aka. the weapon is "broken" for real. Even more interestingly, this inconsistency of brokeness is more apparent against bosses, at least for me.

Small thing i noticed is when using lightning arrows on water, the arrow's aoe doesnt apply vs regular/single shots. Definetely a bug cause the spread xbow doesnt have that problem w lightning bolts

for each arrow you add it adds damage because the arrows themselves have there own separate attack rateing

i noticed the Claws of Night also have the same funny Broken mechanic with its heavy attack. was nice watching chunks of my hp dissipating with 1 of the knives hitting me.

After he 1 shotted me a few times @ blessing lv 15 i figured something was up.

The status build up is capped at 2 arrows though regardless of whether all 8 hit which is crap I really wish they make it scale based on actual arrows hitting only but allow status to scale too

You may have noticed some of the arrows fly through the target. This ash of war, along with the spread crossbow, have a limit on the maximum number of arrows that can hit a single enemy. Though for some reason Ansbach's gets max damage on every enemy hit and the spread crossbow, since it seems to be working as intended, is pretty garbage.

"Please don't use this against players, it's mean" Me: 😈

To be fair, it spends 8 arrows at once. You've kind of overlooked the massive ammo cost. It deals decent damage, but when you can only shoot it ~12-13 times but can fire Igon's until you're out of FP, I'd go with Igon's any day. Anyway the real crazy shit is the fact it deals insane stance damage but :)

In SOTE you have scadu fragments, so its not 300ish AR anymore.

lord of frenzied flame enjoyer i see

The fact that the smithscript weapons, weapons with very poor scaling on anything that is not the multi-stat infusions, got nerfed before this is nuts to me. Like yeah, I get it wasn't intended, and the damage should likely be somewhere in the middle of the multi-stat infusions and base keen, but this seems a bit more dire if you ask me.

Does it count as 8 different hits for statuses? Or maybe its just a cone attack and the arrows are visual

faced against this with a guy who shot sleep arrows, i dont wanna play invasions anymore :(

4:27 😯 I bet we can down some bosses with that… 🤔

It's calculates each arrow

Someone used the bone bow on me with sleep arrows and after I fell asleep he did massive damage with a barrage of arrows and killed me so damn fast.

It's funny that it's also just the best bow, without needing the ash of war. Highest AR longbow with the shortbow moveset. As someone currently doing bow only through the DLC, I can't complain.

Let's hope they don't fix it, this is a NG+ exclusive weapon (post-DLC final boss), and isn't all that egregious in PVP since good players can avoid it easily. Please, Miyazaki, it's so cool, I love bow builds, I need this

I am now even more pissed for missing one step of the quest and losing the bow in my current walktrough. :(

It's already my second favorite weapon and honestly I don't wanna see it get nerfed. On pvp it's beyond bonkers so nerfin it there makes sense but man playing bows on pve is extremely underwhelming but this bow at least makes it fun.

I don’t know if that’s entirely true about the full damage in PvP. At least from my experience if one hits it’s doing about 500-700 dmg. But if 3-4 hit then it looks like the full damage. So to me it looks as though they gave it some leeway on how may you need to hit to about half of the arrows used. Because if we’re being honest you’re not hitting anyone with all of them unless it’s point blank. Still, it’s a lot more damage than you’d expect. With how Fromsoft is when it comes to coding bullets I’d like to believe this is intentional… but it’s Fromsoft we’re talking about

Even if its bugged, i would like to see other bows brought up closer to its current state. Bows have basically been a challenge mode only class of weapons in this game, so it would be nice if they could have some help

for each arrow you add it adds damage

Does the stance talisman buff the bow's AOW?

Well, you're consuming 8 arrows at a time. And with a stack limit of 99, doesn't that use up all your arrows (of that kind) pretty quickly? If so, and from that regard, I think it makes sense for it to count all of them as hits.

time to speedrun the dlc

If the bow worked as intended(that damage if they all hit) does it still need a nerf?

I don't think it does too much status buildup, you had to use it 3 times to get the first bleed proc, the damage doesn't seem anything unheard of.

I’ve always hated how magic/sorcery’s always do a ton of damage with their adjacent builds. But when u have a strength or dex build with a bow you’ve gotta shoot an enemy TONS of times to kill them. No one uses bows for this reason.

Ansbach is truly the goat. the dueling shields are kinda busted to

it's just like the ash of war that throws multiple knives at the same time

seems to be working as intended to me 😊

Please don't take this away from us Miyazaki

The fact that it's 2 arrows not 1 is NOT just semantics, the information you can surmise from this is COMPLETELY different from if it was one arrow, the fact that it works this way specifically almost definitely confirms that it's not a bug, that it's NOT broken like you assume in this video, someone PROBABLY specifically designed it to work like this

so how do I repair it scott

I literally killed Romina with this yesterday and not even the proper talisman for a bow just this bow only the damage is crazy especially holy arrows it’s crazy and even normal arrows is crazy I almost beat Galius but his charges always get before killing him

The crowd sweeper?

Thanks Scott 👍👍👍

Time to beat the final boss

I knew there was something fishy bout that 43 dex requirement lol

Does rellana's cameo work with the bow weapon arts? I mean you literally take a stance before firing the shot off

i have gone through around 10 invasions with this weapon and i can confirm this does not actually work vs human players

Seems like you got your wish already. I just tried it and I’m only getting like 200 more damage than the pulley bow with mighty shot. And that’s with 70 dex and Alexander’s Jar Shard/Arrows sting…we had a decent bow for 5 days lol. Pisses me off.

What arrows are best to use

But if you add up the damage of 8 normal arrow shots... doesn't the art actually end up being less damage overall.. only way I see the art is being broken is if it only used 1 arrow to fire it

You say its literally broken but it looks intact to me

You know there is damage drop off right? So the further you stand from the target the less damage you do, so you can’t compare standing right behind the enemy and shooting and standing several meters away.

happy the souls content is back for now

Looks like cheese is back on the menu, boys!

In coop it's not great, I played with a decent build for a few days but there's not enough arrows to finish a boss.

really weird cause after using the bow, it genuinely FEELS like it works properly but i think youre right based on pvp. i definitely dont think it should be nerfed though

At this point, it's whatever. The majority of weapons from the dlc are op. Imo, its the final dlc, go wild with everything you can

Sounds good to me.

Anyone know if the spread crossbow also works like that?

Should stay like this. Bows are kinda lackluster tbh.

I assume the shotgun crossbow doesn't have the same insane ability?

From where I'm standing, if all 8 arrows hit it's supposed to do 12,800 damage, not 1600

And here i thought we were being given a viable bow build option... My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

The patch coming out will be long

Arrows soaring sting is 8% more and 50 bowDistRate Arrows sting is 10% damage but without range Soaring talisman is 65 bowDistRate Dont ask what bowDistRate is exactly idk

Great showing, better ending. 10/10 laughed

really needing a balance / bug fixing patch