Answering Viewer Questions From The Keyway Video & A Shop Update

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Answering Viewer Questions From The Keyway Video & A Shop Update - Manual Machine Shop

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In today's follow-up, I answer some of the questions that were brought up with Saturday's video. On Saturday, I cut a large, close tolerance, internal keyway on the Morey Vertical Slotter. There were many great questions and comments.
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@joell439 Ай бұрын

These mid-week follow-up videos have been an excellent way to engage the viewers and accelerate the growth of your channel without having to spend a ton of your very limited time typing your replies. 👍👍😎👍👍

@paulhammond7489 Ай бұрын

Josh. I come here to see how you do your work. I understand constructive criticism can be a good thing providing it is presented in the correct manner. But do try to limit your responses to the trolls that like nothing more than to provide negative feedback. Those commenters often feed on your replies and just encouraging others to join the party.... Enjoy the Hungry Hollow Steam & Gas Engine Club show this weekend :)

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Even the negative comments can be a learning experience for everyone. That is why I do these follow-up videos. Some suggestions have merit, but in real world practice don't pan out.

@scottzink3455 Ай бұрын

Keep trolling them. They are the ones that are miserable. I think it's funny when you do. The responses are so predictable.

@joshwhite6947 Ай бұрын

You shouldn’t feed the trolls. But you gotta smack them hoes

@dcraft1234 Ай бұрын

I like how you show a perfect keyway with gauge blocks and everything, and some one asks "Why don't you do it this other way?" Lol.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Yeah, it's crazy the silly comments.

@jimpritz4169 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the update Josh. Your loyalty to your viewers is admirable. Congratulations on your business growth and don't worry about the naysayers. You know what you are doing and how to do it. Thanks for the updates and try to get some rest.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

I appreciate that! I always said I will sleep when I die. But the light at the end of the tunnel is coming closer.

@billdoodson4232 Ай бұрын

When I was an Engineer in the Merchant Navy, everyone, but everyone had a 10" shifter (adjustable spanner) in the rule pocket of their boiler suit, usually a Bahco, (probably why there were so many rounded nuts on ships). I have a good array of different sizes and ages of Bahco shifters in my workshop from 4" to 15", I have never needed anything larger. If a nut or bolt is a little stubborn, then I use it to measure up for the correct size combination spanner. But there is nothing wrong with using a shifter at the right time and place.

@sonnyboy2273 Ай бұрын

You Always Do A Great Job.....Thank You...

@MICHAEL-ys3pu Ай бұрын

Do it you way Josh, if you want to adjust a 1/4 nut with a 18 inch shifter you do it.🇦🇺

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Thanks, I will. Lol

@The_DuMont_Network Ай бұрын

@@TopperMachineLLCBut make sure you record it so we can see it! Best regards from boiling hot North Texas!

@johnharcinske4959 Ай бұрын

I stumbled over your channel a week or two ago and really enjoy watching how you make/fix/do your work. I've never used lathes or CNC or mills, but love what they can do. Love the train videos too. I've learned a lot from watching - thank you!

@1978garfield Ай бұрын

Glad you are keeping busy!

@jamesbonnema1041 Ай бұрын

I like your explanations, thanks, and be careful working those long hours!

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@Paul-FrancisB Ай бұрын

Hi Josh, great to hear you are getting plenty of paid work in, those clients rightly should take priority, the videos can follow as and when you can. I'm enjoying the midweek updates and responses to comments, its a good way of maintaining engagement with your growing audience 🙂 New machine day is always fun looking forward to see what you've got, brilliant that your able to invest in them.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

@willgallatin2802 Ай бұрын

Not a thing wrong with your methods. You meet the tolerance on the prints, and no one is harmed. Conner just might decide to come back to work for you down the road, I hope. Seems to be a bright fellow.

@thesjyoungjr Ай бұрын

It's funny to me the KZfaq machin men that know so much. It's a good thing they are here to tell you how to do your job. 😊

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

I'd be willing to bet they don't even have their own shops or even a machine in their own garage, yet they know everything about the business.

@thesjyoungjr Ай бұрын

@TopperMachineLLC I've ran a screwdriver one time. Does that make me make a tool maker?

@bobmazzi7435 Ай бұрын

It's always good to see how others approach a specific job. I don't see the questions as being a negative as long as someone learns from it. Another part of it is that you have figured out how to do a particular job with what you have. And that's something that everyone has to understand. For example, I worked in a shop that had some broaches, but I needed to cut a keyway that I did not have broaches for, and it was going to be a one off. So, I used the cross slide on a lathe. I ground and mounted a tool in a boring bar and then locked the spindle and took a thou at a time with the part mounted in a chuck. Not recommended, but it got the job done and passed inspection. And it was a fairly small key so the load on the spindle and cross slide was not extreme.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Believe it or not, but what you did in the lathe is now being made as standard tooling for CNC turning centers. One of my customers does this for all of their small keyways.

@bobmazzi7435 Ай бұрын

@@TopperMachineLLC Really? I'd thought long and hard about it because of the load and wear on the headstock bearings and leadscrews.

@northwoodsguy1538 Ай бұрын

Great you are busy doing great work. 👍😎

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

@ryanbeard1119 Ай бұрын

Lots of machines. Must be a real responsible Dude.

@dyoung3536 Ай бұрын

Love these follow-ups almost more than the original video. For these repeats jobs where you're got a good process dialed in that works for you, have you considered ever covering some of the prior techniques that either didn't work or worked less well? I find learning from past failures or less successful attempts are great sources for learning.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

I have in some of the other follow-ups. This job is quite straightforward

@eyuptony Ай бұрын

Love your Crescent, pleasant, sense of humor Josh. Your slotter is King. Proof that old proven technology isn't outdated. Enjoyable videos with great content. Cheers Tony

@BrucePierson Ай бұрын

Hopefully you will have some video from Hungry Hollow, as I can't make it, being in Australia. I have occasionally seen old machinery displays in this area when they have old gear running. It's very interesting seeing these old machines that were used in the past.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

I will be busy running steam engines, so not much filming will get done. But, the flight is less than a day. Not that far. lol

@Rustinox Ай бұрын

Nice to hear that you have more and more work. A bright future for your busines.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

I hope so. Thanks.

@davidcashin9194 Ай бұрын

Ha Josh I want to see you use the big shifter it would follow the theme of use a bigger hammer would look great on video.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Great suggestion!

@stuartpowers2196 Ай бұрын

Many of us have had to do jobs with a sloppy s.o.b. of a crescent wrench. But for me that's in the past since I switched to left handed metric crescents 😊

@oldadthomas Ай бұрын

Love your humor stewing the dude with the adjustable wrench hang-up! Too funny

@BrucePierson Ай бұрын

The fact that you are so busy is a reflection of the quality of work that you are putting out. If your work wasn't top quality, you wouldn't have repeat customers and referrals. The videos are secondary, but hopefully you manage to find the time to do them, even if it's on a semi-regular basis. They are always interesting and you are really good at video editing..

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Thanks

@cdrive5757 Ай бұрын

Thank you for the Vertical Shaper/Slotter . It's the first I've seen. Regarding adjustable wrenches.... My great grandson asked me why I own so many wrenches but also own adjustable wrenches. I told him that I will only use an adjustable wrench to lightly snug a nut or bolt. When real torque is needed I will never use one. Definition of Adjustable Wrench: A wrench capable of fitting many sizes of hardware equally poorly! You know this is true. Hell, I will only use an open end wrench where I can't use a Box Wrench. I like my hexagonal surfaces to remain that way. Wakodahatchee Chris ...Old an set in my ways.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

You're correct. Same with people using deep well sockets or extensions where they are not needed. Know how to use your tools and what they are made for.

@bobhudson6659 Ай бұрын

Aaaahhhh. The "poor" keyboard warriors. What will they complain about next? But knowing their creativity, I am sure they will find something given that they "all" had their own machine shops - in their mind anyway - and know exactly what they are talking about. No doubt they had slotting and other machines, bigger and better than yours and could keep even tighter tolerances. I really feel for them. Retired mechanic/machinist.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Exactly. It is funny how these people think.

@davegower123 Ай бұрын

Our local high school program shut down years ago. 🥺 Sent a little something to help keep yours going. Used the “Other” option when donating. Cheers! 👍🍻😊

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Awesome. Thank you. I'll add it to the pot.

@Randysshop Ай бұрын

Thanks for the up date. And to busy to do any filming is a good problem to have since Y T does not pay the bills

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

It does pay some bills, but not enough to stop the shop work.

@StuartsShed Ай бұрын

Good stuff! Don’t burn yourself out, glad to hear you have another apprentice lined up. Cheers! Edit: I have some indexable tooling spare that I no longer need - I will get it over to you. Should be stuff the school can use.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Awesome! Thanks Stuart! See you Saturday.

@StuartsShed Ай бұрын

Yessir! Looking forward to it.

@TalRohan Ай бұрын

Thats a cracking gorgeous wrench ...definitely a point maker lol

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

It sure is

@richardsurber8226 Ай бұрын

I like your videos Josh. these coments that folks come up with are great too. Not like you, I read three. God bless your efforts

@argee55 Ай бұрын

I kept waiting for to use adjustable wrench as a hammer. Talk about being disappointed! 😂

@e.scottdaugherty8291 Ай бұрын

I'm glad you're getting more work, it a shame the circumstances happened the way they did.

@bobmazzi7435 Ай бұрын

Getting work at the expense of someone else's shop closing is always sad. But, work is work.

@jrmintz1 Ай бұрын

It's good to be working - the alternative sucks! Thanks for the great videos.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

But working too much sucks too. Especially during the good time of year.

@wallbawden5511 Ай бұрын

great video as is the norm mate i just love the Shifter ( adjustable wrench ) as you call them that chap with the comment to the use of one i would say he is never to be heard of again but as i have always seed a comment whether bad or good is still a comment goes towards your algorithm thing with youtube wether your doing this type of video or the other just lap them up you are a top notch Machinist Cheers Mate

@ypaulbrown Ай бұрын

always great feed back....thank you Josh.......

@brian_2040 Ай бұрын

Good evening Mr Josh. I watched your video on the keyways, I just trusted that you knew what you were doing. Obviously you have several machines, and the lights stay on for over years so you must be doing something right. I just like watching your content. Another good one, and I see you are trying to film some things when you can.

@kevinquinn6242 Ай бұрын

Josh keep up the great work

@redmorphius Ай бұрын

Thanks for the hungry hollow tip! I live right next to it and didn’t even know about it

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Cool, I will be there Saturday only. I had a change of plans on my end and it being too wet to do much didn't help.

@redmorphius Ай бұрын

Cool! Maybe I’ll see you there!

@bostedtap8399 Ай бұрын

Onwards and upwards Josh, impressive accuracy on a long slot. Nice to see the traction equipment.

@scottzink3455 Ай бұрын

It looked like a shaft sleeve for a mechanical seal on a pump.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

It is not, but good guess. It is part of an industrial clutch.

@BrucePierson Ай бұрын

Good that you finally tracked down the key and driver for the screws. Sometimes particular screws are hard to get keys or bits for. I struck a situation where I wanted to take something apart and it had screws with triangular slots. In my 10 or so bit sets, I did not have anything that was triangular, so I had to make a triangular driver for it.

@zoltannagy1813 Ай бұрын

Hey Josh, you must get tired of different subscribers telling you should have done it this way, or you should have done it that way. That's the beauty of having your own shop..you do it your way... and that's why I watch your videos. Keep up the great work. ps. Have you ever thought of getting help with the videos and editing (like Kurtis at CEE gets Karen to do it) It would take some pressure off you and you could focus more on the workshop side of things. Cheers Josh.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

It gets annoying, but they obviously know more than I do. They probably started and grew a successful shop for longer than I have. I've had a few people try to help me with the video work. It never comes out like I want it.

@BrucePierson Ай бұрын

That is one large adjustable wrench. I don't have anything that big. I thought my 18" was big. In my shop I have the following sizes: 4", 6", 200mm 10", 12", 18" and 12" offset. In my car I have a 200mm (8"). So most of my adjustable wrenches are imperial, with a couple of metric ones. However, in my wood shop, I have an adjustable wrench that is both imperial and metric. It's marked 10"-250mm. First time I've seen one that is both imperial and metric.

@KSMechanicalEngineering Ай бұрын

Big machine i like it❤

@carlbyington5185 Ай бұрын

Yup..... I stress when we are slow, I stress when we are busy...... Guess, stress is just the order of the day, Uhg.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

You nailed it. Stress is a way of life.

@number2664 Ай бұрын

You could wire EDM that key way and hold size, but not on price, that would take hours to cut.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

My customer tried a few EDM shops. None of them could hold tolerance. I am not saying you could or couldn't, but the few they tried could not. Price was another issue.

@The_DuMont_Network Ай бұрын

But it wouldn't be as much fun. Ever see those humongo slotters Baldwin and others used to build steam locomotive frames? I would give My front seat in Hell to see THEM being made back in the 19 and 20th Century! Slotters and Shapers - now THAT's real machining!

@number2664 Ай бұрын

@@TopperMachineLLC yeah interesting. I’ve done some pretty long keyways in our EDM with success. I wonder what their doing different. We only use EDM for keyways as we don’t have a slotter and often cut keyways in hardened parts. My last job had a 16” slotter. And yes, there are jobs we we do on the EDM that would be easier and faster on a slotter. But the slotter would sit idle 99% of the time in our case.

@number2664 Ай бұрын

@@The_DuMont_Network and the radius cutting attachment for the smoke box saddles. So much machinery doing so much work.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

I can't tell you how much I really use this slotter, but it is a lot. I get work in from other shops with EDM capabilities. I have no idea why they cant hit the tolerances, but I gladly take the work.

@edswider9309 Ай бұрын

Josh don’t you just love the know it alls

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Nope, LOL

@shelburnewilson2866 Ай бұрын

Obviously you are correct that the slotter is the correct tool to use for the job, but for those of us who do not have one, could a shaper be used?

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

It sure can.

@cougarhunter33 Ай бұрын

Wonder if the school that provides shop apprentices has a AV tech program.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

not that I know of, but I don't want to farm out the editing. I have a hard enough time getting the videos how I want them, I don't think someone else will do a similar job.

@vogs72 Ай бұрын

Spanners- I must have 50, but I only need 3 adjustable wrench’s 🤷🏻‍♂️

@cd23 Ай бұрын

I'm surprised that Wire EDM would not work with the proper setup. What would cause that not to work?

@adrianfernandez1806 Ай бұрын

Ignore the Haters ... In reality . They are Just Ignorants Haters .

@lancekincaid5610 Ай бұрын

I truly enjoy your videos, I was 2yrs. into an apprentashipe when the IRS came in and locked the shop up. I lost my hours and tools. Could'nt find anyone to hire me in Detroit Mi.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

That sucks! Govt has destroyed a lot in this country.

@StreuB1 Ай бұрын

3:20 When people say things like this, its like "Yeah? Go tell Pratt that they designed the key slotter machine for nothing and they could have simply broached things all those decades!!" Josh, people are ignorant at times and make dumb comments. Its all it is and your responses and others like it, hopefully educate people.

@oldreliable303 Ай бұрын

If it were me doing i would use my g&e shaper only becuse i dont have a sloter like you have. And why not make a fixture for that part to lessen set up time

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

I've considered fixtures, but there are about 6 different parts that I see about 5-8 of each a year. Just the storage of these fixtures would take up a lot more space than I can afford to give up. Real estate is my biggest reason for not doing a lot of things.

@ronr344 Ай бұрын

10.5 ” long with those tight tolerances…..no way wire edm would work.

@user-rk1bf4eh2p Ай бұрын

I'm 70 in October of this year have 2-year-old twins I couldn't afford to send you a penny

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

No worries, I don't expect anyone to send money. If someone wants to contribute to the future of this trade, great.

@nancyfontanella-ie1mt Ай бұрын

Josh, We have a vertical shaper, who do you buy your cutting tools from? Thanks John

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

keyseater dot com

@nancyfontanella-ie1mt Ай бұрын

@@TopperMachineLLC thank You Josh

@gordondurr1226 Ай бұрын

You need a maintenance man

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

No, That is actually a job I like to do.

@user-rk1bf4eh2p Ай бұрын

I can get you any seal standard Underside oversized

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Thanks, but so can I. I just need to tear into it.

@sallybrokaw6124 Ай бұрын

Serious chip pile around the Cincinnati mill. That would indicate that old machine made some money for ya.AL B.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

It is a real workhorse. Makes money every time I start it.

@mrferris Ай бұрын

You wear eye protection. Why not ear protection?

@wizardind3203 Ай бұрын

machine shops fix customer's parts every day, and can't find time to fix our own,wire edm has to much deflection not good for tight tolerance, i have 50 years experience, he did the job correct, clamping can only be done on top of the parallels, he could make a donut that would support 360 degrees

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

I considered the donut idea, but there are several different sizes of these. This one I only see a few a year.

@ron827 Ай бұрын

With all your experience, I can not understand why some viewers think they might have a better way of doing a job which you have done it many times with great success. This is not your first rodeo.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Thanks.

@sharkrivermachine Ай бұрын

Josh, I need an email address for you. Would like to send some items for the tool Giveaway. It will include a souple of shop made tools that would be very useful in any shop.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

There is an email link on the bout page here on YT. Otherwise you can just ho to my website. Links to email all over that. Thanks for the support

@6Diego1Diego9 Ай бұрын

why dont you hire a mexican from home depot? hardest working people ive seen

@courtneykachur9487 Ай бұрын

Not to be a bossy twat, but might i suggest you do not feed the trolls? In my experience all that does is keep them coming back again and again.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

Yes, but they feed the algorithm. Mostly these videos are to answer good questions that are asked.

@dcraft1234 Ай бұрын

I think it's funny how he finds ways to dig at the trolls! I think he kinda enjoys it.

@alanm3438 Ай бұрын

I hope that you can catch up with your work orders soon. I am glad that you will be at Hungry Hollow. I would love to go but that is a long drive from Rhinelander. You have some great supporters who want to help you with your school project. I sure wish that I was able to help you but I do not have the skill or the health to be able to do that. What will happen when you retire??? So many people depend on you and your skills. I appreciate you willingness to share with your videos.

@TopperMachineLLC Ай бұрын

No worries. It's a good show, but a long haul for many. No idea what will come when I retire. We have a few years(about 25) to figure that out.