Tobey maguire falling from sky in spider man 2 be like😂

You thought ants were bad, just wait until the inmates pound him!

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@@zach11241 I wants ya and i needs you

​@@zach11241 hell naw 💀

YESSSS thank you we initially thought that at the end of the movie, WAY better ending

Yeah....even if scout only sacrificed himself by destroying that machine and trapped with the Kang it would be more impactful

I think, if Scott died by Kang's hands that would make the movie much more 'effective'

They could've done literally anything other than a perfect fairy tale ending and it would've been better. I have no idea what they were smoking when they came up with this trash ending.

If I remember correctly in the original leaks this whole scripts ending basically played out in reverse, antman and wasp get trapped in the quantum realm and kang is the one to narrowly escape. This was supposed to pose a big threat because now he can travel freely through time throughout the multiverse now. I dont know why they decided to change it last minute , but that’s apparently what they’ve been deciding to do with the last couple of marvel movies.

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Perfectly explained, more people should read this.

Well my I think my thoughts on Kang have changed a little

but comic and mcu is different, especially with the multiverse concept there tons of weird variants and this one was the most badass one yet it's permanent defeat is hilarious. But in comics, at least the ones I read, this version always comes back and this badass version is the eternal thread not weird variants

but it's common thing that marvel massacres cool villains such as gorr, ultron or taskmaster so dissapointed but not surprised

Literally the most terrifying thing on the planet when you think about it. Enough of them can pretty much tackle any sized land animal.

Squirrel girl: challenge accepted

@@lilshokan I mean, it's canon. He has lost to squirrels before. But it's just plain embarrassing.

@@lilshokanwell squirrel girl is something else like cartoon powers she is too strong for avengers but too much not serious for a good movie. It’s a joke character almost

No the opposite. 10H might have passed in the Quantum realm by then

@@PermanentHigh 5 minute Quantum = 5 years real world means 1 second in quantum realm = 146 minutes up here. The could have watched a movie, then gone back in and he would have moved a step. Math asshole.

They came to the same time I guess so the time won't passed like in endgame

They had Stark's time compass by now, and could exit whenever I think.

No they are in the deep quantum realm in this movie like hank explained that he’s been researching it for years and never heard of the civilization in the quantum realm, this is where Janet was and it’s the same reason she aged, the are scot was in in the first one and when he got trapped was a different area that wasn’t as deep into the quantum realm

He was referring to Hank Pym, he's definitely seen his variants from other universes knows what they can do. Hank Pym is a founding Avengers and one of the few people in the universe who can outsmart him.

Cool idea, except it completely ignores the scene after this. In the end, I think they'll come back to grab this kang in order to beat the other kangs.

According to He Who Remains, "and who do you think paved THAT road?"

What youre referring to is bad writing for the sake of comedic timing. Ant man barely if at all talks to the ants (like hank does I mean) and Kang knows that's not his power. It's the power to grow and shrink. He wouldn't say that but they wanted their daredevil "didn't see that coming!" moment

Kang's a genius and so were the ants, was it too hard to ask an epic battle between them?

Lmao. Cope harder. He got beat by ants.

Kang was able to push the ants away, until M.O.D.O.K. distracted him and disabled his forcefield, leaving Kang open.

Well, that's the beautiful thing about Kang in the comics. He is defeated a lot. In fact, it's almost comedic how often he loses. The scary thing is that he's not defined by his failure, and he can keep coming back stronger and stronger," Loveness argued. "It's not like you can just blow up the mothership, just beat him once and you're done. He is almost an existential threat, and the more you fight him the worse he's going to get."

I agree must say this is my favourite mcu film i dont care what people say and that it got a bad rating i think it was the perfect way to start phase 5 i love the quantum realm i really needed this best ant man movie i love this film really best one for me just thankyou marvel I really don't see anything wrong with it I wish it got a good rating but I still love it

I feel like it also comes down to the premise of the movie. You introduce Kang as the next major threat for the MCU and you decide to throw him into the lighthearted Ant-Man trilogy, and somehow have him lose to Ant-Man (one of the weakest, and less-serious Avengers). Not doing too much for building him up as a threat.

Kang is literally a human

I agree

How did he lose lol? Didn't he return in the end with no sign of any ant?

It May be lazy writing, but I think we should consider it as a scramble because they did just repurpose a Phase 4 Ant-Man movie to a Phase 5.

He didn't use pym particles in the final because his Armor was broken

@@Feko.apnipuri.sahkti.se. no it wasn't

@@Movel0 wasn't it stated in the first film that he can't shrink without his helmet because i wouldn't be able to breath without it or something? "Reed's first "Ant-Man" film from 2015 very clearly noted that its title hero must wear a helmet when he shrinks or grows, as his lungs would not be able to absorb air molecules of a different size."

Has it ever occured to you that he did in the end use the Pym disk to kill him?

What was that . Isnt he moodok

It doesn’t look natural lol

He didn’t die, and the ants weren’t exactly ant sized plus they were technologically evolved ants.

Disney has made the movies so kid friendly that they lose all their gravitas

100%. Runs his mouth about beating Avengers but gets bodied by the Ant family. All bark no bite

Kang in the comics was once killed by the Young Avengers. Teenagers

Well, that's the beautiful thing about Kang in the comics. He is defeated a lot. In fact, it's almost comedic how often he loses. The scary thing is that he's not defined by his failure, and he can keep coming back stronger and stronger," Loveness argued. "It's not like you can just blow up the mothership, just beat him once and you're done. He is almost an existential threat, and the more you fight him the worse he's going to get."

​@@PermanentHighWell, that's the beautiful thing about Kang in the comics. He is defeated a lot. In fact, it's almost comedic how often he loses. The scary thing is that he's not defined by his failure, and he can keep coming back stronger and stronger," Loveness argued. "It's not like you can just blow up the mothership, just beat him once and you're done. He is almost an existential threat, and the more you fight him the worse he's going to get."

kang is not stronger than thanos. All his variants combined make him the threat he is. Also since he's actually just human hes physically much weaker than thanos but the tech is the dangerous thing. Being able to destroy timelines

Most powerful being in MCU are physically weak lol. They mostly rely on their magic or technology to dominate and charm to rule.

He is just a variant of Kang

An army of ants, like an army of six-armed thanos, could not be resisted by Thanos alone

You also need to understand that Kang has many variants, this one is not his strongest, looking at the post credits you can know what worse things could come... fuck and that they can change the villain, Marvel being Marvel... and another, and It's incredible how much Marvel nerfed Kang in this film, I'm simply stupid to see this, top 5 worst recent Marvel films in terms of script too

They won’t

​@@vasiliypupkin3239Jonathan was innocent

My vote is bring him back otherwise it would be a waste

He plays him so well I can’t see another actor as kang now he will stay in the MCU

None wants to continue with a person who isn't of a good character. And I don't think this role can't be played by someone else. This is not some Jack Sparrow or Gandalf kind of role

L&T is better than this. Which is saying something cause L&T was crap. Also, why are fans eating up this new low as standard? Remember when MCU was WAY better than any of these two? Look at GOTG 3, that's quality.

@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom I definitely agree with this. At least the main character had character development in L&T unlike this film. Also the characters were at least a little more likable. I agree though. Guardians 3 is the best movie I’ve seen in years from the MCU.

Not a high bar

@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom the hallway scene, and Rockets past are my favorite parts in Gotg 3 and I felt like the High Evolutionary did better than Kang

True. This film did have its merits. However, it was kinda rough to follow because it didn't feel like an Antman film. It was basically a Kang and Janet movie and Antman was used at the surrogate but the problem is it is still focused on Scott and Cassie. However when you look at Avengers Infinity War... that wasn't The Avengers movie, it was Thanos' movie. We found out his true motivations, we got to know him and followed his journey alongside him all the way to the end. From a certain POV, Thanos was the Protagonist, with Thor and The Avengers being the Antagonists of Infinity War. ... Then Endgame was The Avengers movie with young Thanos as the Antagonist. Unfortunately. Endgame could've been so much better with a different story.

I mean it’s the only factor why Kang’s dangerous in comparison, It’s not like Kang is actually Thanos level of strength etc

Not the only thing, it's his extremely advanced technology that also makes him dangerous. This one variant destroyed entire timelines by himself

There’s only 1 character who can erase anything.

Nah. The major thing that makes them dangerous is their manipulation of time. We have seen just how powerful that made one variant in Loki. We did not get to see it in antman for obvious plot reasons. The Powers that come with the suit, the tech and all look next level too, but the time factor is the major threat. There is literally no one capable of fighting them except their variants hence the use of the council of kangs. It has been implied several times in Loki and antman but poorly executed in antman. The War is between the kang Variants no one else. Others are just pawns. Thats how powerful they are. My safest bet is there is going to be a Kang variant who takes down the other variants just like who he remains did and be the big bad.

It's his mind and tech. not physical ability. This movie didn't show that very well but maybe this is a younger version that hasn't met himself yet

and people said Kang is weak. That's something no any normal human being can do and he is one. I guess not even Thanos can escape that

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Maybe it was his plan to appear dead at the end, we don’t know where his ended up going through that portal if he got out the council would be able to track him and come for him maybe he made it look as if he was killed and come back, afterall he did warn antman and since he’s faced many avengers he knows that the avengers always plan against an enemy, right before he was rushed by the ants he also mentions to antman he speaks to ants but it’s hank who works with the ants and speaks to the , it is likely kang knew of the ants since they also transmit a signal and knew they had an advanced technology since kang has stolen and took advanced tech from multiple timelines, he must’ve planned to fake his death and come back at another timeline,, or his mindset be switched back to the victor timely timeline where we will see him in Loki season 2.

@@mhdkay8462This Kang, He who remains and Victor Timely are Kang Prime.

It's just an army of ultra intelligent giant-sized ants with tech to rival his own commanded by a founding Avenger who's one of the smartest people of the planet, created Ultron and has defeated Kang in the past. Nothing serious.

A civilization of communist ants at 2 on the Kardashev scale vs. Kang... (a comment below) Watch again Hank Pym said. His ants evolved and had civilization for thousand of years. According to Kardashev Scale, 21st humans are at 0.5 scale while ants in quantum realm reached to Type 2 civilization. So type II ant civilization can match Kang technology from 31st century. They are not pure ants anymore and some are robots with high technology.

Think of these ants as spawned zombies.

Nuclear bomb says hi

is dumb that he can destoy timeline and avengers but can beat ants (i don't care if it's developped/tech/ants it's dumb) lazy writing

ancients were much like asgards; to few in numbers despite technological superiority. but then again, tauris beat the crap out of them numerous times...

Kang didn’t betray Janet she betrayed him, he was going to keep his promise but then she found out who he was and kept him from leaving.

Well, that's the beautiful thing about Kang in the comics. He is defeated a lot. In fact, it's almost comedic how often he loses. The scary thing is that he's not defined by his failure, and he can keep coming back stronger and stronger," Loveness argued. "It's not like you can just blow up the mothership, just beat him once and you're done. He is almost an existential threat, and the more you fight him the worse he's going to get."

Janet betrayed Kang

@@kidflash5949 I say Kang betrayed Jannet because he didn't tell the truth from the beginning (about him being an interstellar warlord) Kang introduced himself as just a scientist. If your evil nature is not hidden, you cannot keep your friends. What do you expect from Jannett? Shouldn't she have stopped Kang?

Maybe it was a stronger variant of him that killed him, not to mention his nerf in this film

No, without his armor he's an average dude from the 31st century.

@@uncannydcmarvelous5732And the average dude in 31 century is like Captain Amerika 😅

You should know by now. When marvel adds a “villain” to a movie the villain will always be the nerfed version of the one in the comics it’s a joke 😂

If they did that the Council of Kangs or one of the Kang variants would've killed them all, while they were tired and Quantum Kang severely disarmed. So the best outcome would've been for Kang to escape with a fully functional suit or to get stuck in the probability storm with a broken suit, hence creating thousands of like minded Kangs and thousands others with functional suits to fight the Council.

So they would have been saved all the same if they survived.

@@DeadPool-ce5rg I'm saying it would have been a cool way to leave it at a clif hanger, and then have them pop back up in Kang Dynasty film?

Nope cant do that now days, female must save the world remember.

@@kentan8536 It would have been funny to have hope and scott both stuck in quantumn since scott has been stuck in Quantumn realm before. Imagine he looks at hope and does the meme lol " Your first time huh?" lol that could have been gold.

Honestly I think it would have made more sense to have Scott, Hope, and Kang sucked into the damaged core. But having it just be Kang didn't at all feel right.

It’s carbage with a lot of plot holes

@@Ghajahha hey your opinion

It should just be a random coincidence or Disney was recycling some cgi/costumes, trying save some $ & cutting corners. Kang & the High Evolutionary should be unrelated--at least in the comics--although there have been multiple changes to the MCU versions. In the comics: Kang is a time traveling super conqueror from like the 31st century (It's been a while so don't quote me but Kang is from very far in the future); he's a human white guy who claims descent from Dr Doom, hence the resemblance & cape, & wears incredibly advanced armor that is operated by thought. Included in the armor are his 2 top abilities--time travel (can never get rid of him for good, another Kang always waltzes in from another point in the time stream) & being able to near instantly summon ANY weapon from ANY point in time. So he can go old school with the Lance of Longinus/Spear of Destiny or rock out with a future "multidimensional, variable phase reality ripping railgun etc." The armor also provides amazing defense too. The High Evolutionary was also a white guy but he's from like the early 1900s & he's always been obsessed with genetics & its manipulation. Mainly he gets off on making animals into anthropomorphic humanoids as well as tinkering with some mutants like Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver. He's more of a mad scientist than a proper evil villain & has helped many heroes in certain situations while opposing them in many others. At some point, he experimented on himself, gave himself some powers & messed up his face etc. He also wears an advanced armor to cover his face & it includes multiple powerful abilities like super strength, size changing & regeneration. MCU: It doesn't appear that Kang & the High Evolutionary have shared origins or gear. Their MCU portrayals are somewhat close to their comic versions & origins/motivations except for them being black now. There's still unsolved mysteries about Kang, but so far there does not appear to be any direct connection between the 2. Who knows, Disney will probably bring them together at some juncture. Sorry so long & hope it's not too confusing!

The quantum relm exists separate to the main verse. They are the universe within the multiverse, more or less