Technically she was doing the same thing Miles was told to do. Stay at HQ so that they wouldn't have to see or interfere with the canon event.

@@user-vv5ju3fj1p I’ll have to go back and watch the movie, I’m not sure if the canon events can occur without the spider person being there

she already had her canon event - it was her Peter dying

​@@epicmanatee592I mean they planned to keep miles there during the canon event so i assume it happens with or without interference

@@vitae3786 you can have multiple though right?

An accurate summation

Perfect ❤

Sigma spartan 🗿

There is but one Rod of Destiny which moves Fate irrevocably, and only one God that can wield it unimpeded. Otherwise, the web is made of the outcomes of every choice we make that intersects every other choice we make. Its main shape and direction may not be changed, but how the smaller details look will still depend on which intersections you allow to happen. You can't control everyone else's; but you can be mindful of your own.

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What else are you supposed to do when a 6'9 muscular man has you pinned down on a speeding train, your powers won't work, and the one who taught you everything you know is right there?

​@@sonicspeedgamer6336Not to mention, people older than children can ask for help as well. We as a society just consider it weak. Thank goodness we're changing.

What's even more crazy though is that like... Miguel is right. Miles IS a kid. He's 18 at most (odds are 17). But Miguel wants to call him a kid for the purposes of saying "I know best" but TREAT him like an adult and it's part of what makes him so jarring and genuinely scary as a villain. He's frothing at the mouth to seriously harm someone he just called a KID.

@@Alextafur1he’s not a villain and he’s just tryna stop miles

@@Alextafur1he’s 15 in this movie since he was 14 in ITSV.

when they all disappear because Miles kept breaching the multiverse, and he becomes the last Spider-Man (if a Deux Machina in the script doesn't surprisingly save them all), there will be no "good guys" to blame. And you will return to this video to comment: "He was just a kid who didn't know what he was doing."

Well Miguel is not a good guy What kind of Spider-Man don’t save people? Miguel is the bad guy

This fr gonna impact the spider society, after Gwen scolded Miguel for going after Miles in my personal theory I think spider society could turn on Miguel

@@user-me9pi4fw3rOoooh real edgy there. Be careful there, you might cut your own wrist.

​@@user-me9pi4fw3r Miles should already be dead, Alt Miles should already be dead, Gwen should already be dead. They're all directly broken canons...Miguel even stated that himself to Miles he alone should be proof the entire theory is wrong. But we have George defying ASM 90 as well just to reinforce this fact breaking canon is fine. Something else murdered Alt 2099. India was an Anomaly of an Anomaly of an Anomaly known as the Spot causing the Collider to overload creating a Blackhole it had nothing to do with ASM 90 being broken.

i didn't realize that till you mentioned it i did notice the same face expression that prowler miles and spiderman miles did but never connected the dots

I just realized after watching this if that spider had never bit Miles he would have turned into the Prowler.

@@sw8330GKEEPER Maybe that was the reason the spider bit Miles. It didn't want him to become the Prowler, just like his uncle was.

@@EagleFangBasketball22Had nothing to do with that…it was about to bite the miles from earth 42 but it got switched at the last min to 1610 miles who is currently spiderman

@@mariagrace8520 there was no Peter in earth 42 how are you guys missing that

Same. One of my favorite scenes in the flick. I'm so overcome with emotion that heart stops every time I see it.

Oh shit you're so right!

Great call

He also glitches into his suit from the end of the first movie, although less noticeable

I already seen that easily.

Bro, your right!

Damn I didn’t think about that.

I don't think the animators did either​@@QuadsMid

True

Nah he’s morbius💀💀

His not a vampire, His DNA is mixed with spider characteristics like the fangs are to immobilise but yeah I get why you think his a vampire

Are you stupid?

For the love of god, he is not a vampire.

I’m pretty sure this dude isn’t even a “spider” man

@@DDDTJ He's actually more of a spider than a man at this point, he literally spliced his own DNA.

​@@DDDTJ he's literally 50% human and 50% Spider. He is a "Spider" man.

I didn’t even catch that in the movie theater that’s funny 😂

😂😂😂😂

2:06 is that the spot???

yes and no. but now that he is spiderman. he has to let this happen. as migel said it is part of every spider's story

​@@user-rz1cb5pc9bsince he is an error, that won't work, Peter from his universe is dead and cannon event there already happened

@@benthasome we don't know everything just yet. it is incomplete, we are all speculating

@@user-rz1cb5pc9b well yeah, I'm just trying to make sense with what we have

​@user-rz1cb5pc9b We do though. Canon events can be changed as we see with captain Stacey.

Ngl seeing miguel as the villain this time is interesting

@@Naybahood60ranger Not as the villain, much more as just an antagonist. I mean, his entire motivation is to not let Miles risk destroying both his universe, but potentially all others, with no plan or reason other than thinking he can change fate. Considering he's both a scientist and someone whose heavily implied that there have been multiple universes destroyed in the past due to broken 'Canon' which the Spider-Society failed to save, I couldn't blame Miguel for his unwillingness to risk everything on blind faith. Obviously we as the audience know that Miles will prove fate isn't decided because that's the best ending for the Trilogy, but to Miguel & the rest of the Spider-Society, the 'Canon' is the equivalent to the Trolley Problem, only with hundreds of trillions of lives at stake against only one - Obviously it's a cruel choice that Miguel has made clear destroys him inside, and Miles *is* justified for being unwilling to accept it, but both sides are completely understandable.

Which I think people overlook a lot. Cause so far Miguel has only recruited people AFTER their canon event. Seeing Miles have a chance at saving the people close to them is part of the Web Warrior code. TRY and save everybody.

@@Valiant06 the one thing that’s been tripping me out about the plot is. If SPOT is an ANOMALY. That means he’s NOT canon right? But Miles’s canon event involves spot killing his father. That means the canon was already altered in some way. That means that it IS POSSIBLE to change the canon without breaking it. That Or miles HAS to save his dad to stop spot from destroying the multiverse, because if he does kill his dad, that means that spot, an ANOMALY, will be fully integrated in the spiderverse by killing Miles’s dad. So in the end miles will have to save his dad in order to save the multiverse (obviously just a wild theory while smoking a blunt)

Or maybe the canon event stuff doesn't work the way Miguel thinks it does. We have at least one case of undeniable proof canon is either flexible or weird: Earth 42. This universe gas no spider man. But that's not the canon breaming part. The Earth 42 spider was supposed to bite 42 Miles as you can see in the Spot's flashback. But it DIDN'T. It got transported to Earth 1610 and bit 1610 Miles. Without the collider, AKA the thing that breaks canon, 42 Miles would be Spider man and maybe 1610 Miles would be the Prowler. But it doesn't play out like that. If Miguel is right about canons, both dimensions should be shattered into pieces because one universe lacks a spider man when it wasn't supposed to and 1610 Miles became a Spider Man when he wasn't originally supposed to be. And yet both universes are still in one piece. So either Miguel is just plain wrong or maybe canon events are a lot more flexible. ​@EJSweaty

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I always interpret it as she just accepting it because she thought the relationship was too broken to be fixed anyway, might as well just let it happen

i respect miles decision everyone has their own story so

Yes just miquel doesn't see that way

it's in the song at least

I like what you're saying but it didnt fit to have 2 lines there. He probabky could've said it when he teleported to earth 42

@@simon-peterwilliamson2412 I actually like that a lot, but I still think it could fit in either this scene or when he was being teleported away. I just wish they kept it somewhere.

Thank you and I feel like the ending with earth 42 miles putting his fist up to 1610 miles and the music pauses for a sec but they changed it it added more suspense imo

They also cut out Gwens desperate banting when she was digging Miles out of the rubble in Manbattan.

That’s why he’s my favorite spider man even before this movie was ever made he’s just too awesome!!

​@@Dabluemoon93he cry baby

Miguel is such a sick villain I love him

@@idontneedaname318he’s not a villain ! He’s the good guy actually the one who cares for the multiverse

Same Here 😢

I actually didn’t realize Miguel caught his first kick

And she's right. Miguel O'hara and the rest of variants of Spider-Man and Spider-Woman are supposed to be the good guys. Well it turns out, they're not good guys.

Miguel is not a bad guy too, me?

@@dreamwalker2865 Miguel O'hara is not a good guy either.

Everything Miguel has been doing, he has been doing for the greater good of the Multiverse, it not like he's is being selfish, the only spider man I see being selfish is Miles.

@@dreamwalker2865 How is Miles being a selfish?

miles jumping in the portal was his own decision. he did it because of love. so yeah. its kinda his fault. he didn't know this consequence but...... yeah. the earth 42 spider was the main source

yeah poor Miles… he just wants to be the good guy and save everybody😢

Anomaly or not, Miles is not the cause of the Multiverse crisis. Plus, a Superman doesn’t operate by the rules.

@@Shatter149 The fault is on the Kingpin and Spot. Not Miles. Jeez you’re just like the rest of the messed up Spidey Society.

@@a.jthomas6132 no. you're a moron. even if miles didn't know, he made things worse. it doesn't matter who started it to begin with. spot, the spider, kingpin. whatever. get the hint. unlike you, you're not even belong to the spider society

​@@Elmazx7 Sarcasm actually.

​@@micahwatson7652🤓

“The f*ck you want me to do, kill him?”

U clearly don't know what sarcasm is

That was sarcasm

“ Miles, you need to let your stockings be filled with coal. It’s a canon event. “

That move was so satisfying

“ NO, you’re lying! I’m Spider Man! “ “ You’re a mistake! “ that was crazy 😭

@@fathimathnabeela6247 but racist

So only white spider men can get hit or choked out huh? Yeah, that's pretty much current day reasoning. 😂😂 You know the one who died and got his everything smashed saving him was a white guy right??

Latino man slams a Black teen 😭 I don’t think that was the director’s intention but I def can see that happening…the only other characters to help out Miles without crossing him in the Spider Society were Spider Byte and Spider Punk, two Black characters🤔

I'm commenting here so i can see if you were right or not and congratulate you

@@simon-peterwilliamson2412@ me when it comes out 😭

@@simon-peterwilliamson2412cant wait as well

This is an interesting hypothesis. Commenting for updates

Interesting.

Oscar has been Moon Knight and Miguel now. Wonder who his next marvel role will be

Artificial? Bro literally has 50% spider genes

Nice catch.

I actually heard a theory that Miguel was projecting onto Miles, since Miguel isn't like the others

😂

i am ready for the sequel...bring it ON!!!!

The day after Miles was bitten, he went back to where the spider bite him to investigate, unknowingly walking into the Collider's room. This causes, in Miguel's eyes, the events that lead to 1016's Peter death.

In the Movie, Spiderman wastes arround 2 minutes saving Miles from falling and then chatting with him for a bit. When he’s done and goes up to blow the collider, Prowler arrived and tackles Spiderman. Those 2 minutes made the difference

@@felipemontero1087 I get that getting bit by the spider caused his spiderman's death. Its just everything Miles did up until that point was what he would normally be doing. Mile's spiderman hadn't gone to shut off the collider before the spider was brought through. It's not like anything could be done about that. Especially since every Spiderman universe has a collider. The one in Miles' world just actually brought stuff into it. Everything was progressing normally

him blaming Miles for everything is so unreasonable

This is something I’ve been thinking about too. The whole thing with spiderman and the spiderverse is that anyone can be spiderman. It’s just about being at the right place and right time to ge bitten by the spider. Miles had absolutely nothing to do with spider 42 being brought to his dimension. Kingpin’s collider exploding also wasn’t miles fault and miles actively fought to help fix it. Miguel saying miles wasn’t meant to be bit by the spider doesn’t make any sense. By that logic you can argue that none of them were meant to be spiderman.

When you say "locked" do you mean the rules don't apply to him?

Because, unless specific to a timeline, there is only one Spiderman on each universe. Miles getting bitten by a spider that was not from that universe, when such event had already happened with Peter, was the first anomaly. This ended up "correcting" itself with Peter's death. The anomaly still exists as long as Milles is alive, but dormant. Like those nuclear bombs that were lost in the ocean and are still to be found. Milles sole existence is that bomb. And him following the canon is the only thing that stops the bomb from going off. That's why his dad's death is necessary. It's a canon event. Killing Milles will just leave that world without Spiderman, same thing if he stops being Spiderman, causing the "bomb" to go off. a cascade of events that should not happen will happen, and viceversa.

@@fbi-sama9052 But in the universe where Miles is now, there are no spider-men? Why does the universe still exist?

@@fanboygg4753 Ah, because there is one. Miles. You see, Miles is that universe's Spiderman. Same way Gwen and other Spiderman can be part of Miguel's super patrol

​@@fbi-sama9052You mean, the prowler Miles is spider-man or "our" Miles is serving double time in both universes?

Joshua Keaton voice act 😂

Forgot the tule to save the multiverse and even more people * he’s right , Miles is the wrong and delusional one

What 😭

Slavery was banned in America in 1865

Lmao my comment was deleted (it was about certain 1800s activites)

Saving the captain's life in pavitr's universe however, shouldn't impact the timeline, as the entire catastrophe was caused by the Spot... The entire event appears to be an anomaly. I'd expect both afflicted universes, where miles was intended to either be or not be bitten, to be falling apart honestly. It seems to me like maybe there is more to Miguel's story we are missing.

@@XanderBlackwell That doesn't make sense, as Miguel clearly states *the Spot is an anomaly* . His reasoning remains flawed.

​@@XanderBlackwell Perhaps. But I don't think "saving" would be an anomoly, as it wasn't intended to happen in the first place. I think just the activities of spot and the destruction would be enough to cause it. The captain was perhaps intended to die, but not in that moment. Letting him die would equally exacerbate the situation, as it occurs preemptively. It just feels like there is more to it. It doesn't seem that much as if saving the captain was the cause, rather than the relationship between the captain and Pavitr blossoming. Perhaps the potential of spider-man laying down their mantle, leaving their respective dimension unguarded? A lack of strife?

Miguel literally is exactly how he described Miles, “No idea what he’s doing”, Miguel believes that he can control an anomaly to commit a canon event but at the same time says “Somebody catch Spot” which is stupid in two senses. The most basic sense is that he thinks any Spider-Man can catch the Spot, when he’s already beaten four of them at the same time without much difficulty BEFORE his transformation, and we see from the Spot future visions, dozens of dead Spider-Man under the Spot. The second one is that by catching Spot, he will literally break the canon event. Spot is doing the canon event, so catching him will by his own theory, destroy everything.

The anomaly when saving the captain's life in Pavitr Prabhakar's universe was from the colider not from the saving.

For real I enjoy his character poe in the sequels

Did ya'll see Moon Knight? He was incredible.

duh u just found this out now??

Spider-prowler lol. No but actual spiders have claws they use to climb walls too

Calling it now: Alt Miles & Miguel are gonna brawl in ATSV, and their fight will be *_LEGENDARY!_*

miles made things worse when he jumped in the portal.

Timestamp?

@@jungie7631 2:31 as per another comment

No, it’s not.

Not really. She's the reason Miles is in this mess. "With great power comes great responsibility" She had the power to jump universes and responsibility to fix anomalies. But she ruined it. She talked to Miles, and opened the floodgates. A spiderbull in a quantum China shop.

It's gonna win the Oscar. It just won the PGA for Best Animated Feature. Might be the first animated film franchise to win an Oscar for 2 or even 3 films. A legendary film IMO.

Nope, He better action than Monkey spider

He’s an anomaly who created an anomaly which is the spot, therefore creating a way for there to be a canon event

@@shadowblox8116 ya, what you said

You mean insomniac Peter vs Miguel

@@MyNamesMegatron no peter b parker vs Miguel cause he been really disrespectful to him and I think eventually he will lead the spider-verse

@@thirdeyelionproduction1934 that sounds ridicilous

@@MyNamesMegatron how

@@thirdeyelionproduction1934 Peter B Parker had already ended his character arc with him having his relationship with MJ back and have a family and kid, he aint gonna risk all of that just to fight over leader ship with Migure and also it's kinda reasonable that Miguel didn't want to talk to him because like literally why not?? Miguel's objective is to capture Miles meanwhile Peter's whole screen time is just him showing off his daughter and trying to convince Miles to come back. He doesn't need to fight for leadership bc Miguel is already good enough and if you can see in the post credit his going to help the gang to save Miles, not creating another problem "which already had" with Miguel.

Idk man would you really choose not to save your mom or dad from death if you had to chance. The destruction of the universe is not guaranteed as well, like lyla said “that’s what the model says” implying it’s not for certain

1. It’s incredibly clear that Miguel is displacing a lot of his aggression on Miles. He’s not mad at just him being the anamoly but also displacing that it’s in part due to miles dimension proving multiversal travel was real he would’ve never even tried being happy in another world and losing it. The guy clearly is closing himself off and throwing the mission to cover up what he believes was a mistake. 2. Miles literally got told by the scary vampire man who hates him that his father needed to die in 2 days on an algorithm that’s clearly proven to be imperfect due to Gwen’s dad being alive. Plus he wants to do both not just save his dad.

@@dre4534not only that but when Mumbattan is seeming being destroyed and Jess shows up with the scientist spiderman she said there’s times where they can save the world and sometimes they aren’t so lucky. Soooo they just confirmed it is possible for a canon event to be broken and the world will be fine.

@@foxbear1749 exactly 💯

Yeah that's what I was thinking too, Miles was just minding his business when the spider bit him. I see what your saying with him being selfish but there's also the emotional/natural side to it because that's his dad, of course he wouldn't want him to die especially if he has the power to potentially stop it.

Exactly

I’d love that. Lots of places you can go with that storytelling.

SNITCH!

But this time will be different. Miles will save his dad

@@marcelopicostorreblanca154 “that’s a boy’s answer.” - Aberforth Dumbledore

@@marcelopicostorreblanca154and could be taking a gamble on killing trillions but ok.