My dad is from valadares, vila nova de gaia, and it is easy for me to understand, although I was born in the US. Lol

Lu is that u? 😳

@@LeaD2000 SSIIIM AHAHAHA. já é a segunda vez que nos encontramos em comentários randomly hahaha

Mirando Do Douro está no norte de Portugal, a zoa onde vive esta xente quédate moi preto, raro serías q non os entenderas

As a native speaker of Portuguese I can say that I could understand many things :v A intelligibility of, at least, 70%.

It has the phonetic from trasmontan portuguese

Not so much as standard portuguese, because it doesn't reduce so much the vowels.

@@rodrigozonzin5835 as a Spanish native speaker I can understand 90%. It seems a step among Spanish and Portuguese

@@kevindasilvagoncalves468 Yes, but in Northern Portugal people don't reduce vowels.

Ola! Como de parecido é o mirandés ó asturianu?

@@montimuros2837 mirandês é asturo-leonês com um sotaque e grafia portuguesa.

@@montimuros2837 é uma das variantes da lingua astur-leonesa.

Saludos do Brasil, amigo.

Como hablante de español entendí tambien al rededor del 95% esto es fascinante!

Ye paecida pero ta más influyida pol portugués.

@@General10098 🤷‍♂️ Ao menos protegemo-la

E mais perto de Portugues

En Asturias también se habla gallego en el occidente e incluso transiciones entre el gallego y el asturiano. Además del asturiano claro.

@@General10098 normal.Y l'asturiano ta mui influyido pol castellano,infelizmente.

A capital da velha Callecia era Braga. Temos o mesmo sangue, filhos de Bre O Ghann. Abraços do Brasil

I am from the other side! Near soajo, in the Peneda-Geres area..they really do sound like the older rural people, for sure!

Me too, Crystal clear!

I'm Galician too, and yes it is so similar XD

Apparently it belongs to the Astur-Leonese linguistic subgroup

I am a Brazilian Portuguese speaker, I understand 99%, it seems to me that they are speaking Portuguese from Portugal, I don't see any difference

@@joasveiga6885 there is a big difference, trust me 🤣

Mirandese & Fala languages are the closest brothers to Leonese & Asturian

@@shaide5483 but Fala is part of the Galician-Portuguese branch. Extremadurian (Palra), on the other hand, is also part of the Asturo-Leonese family.

I thought Fala was a part of the same branch. But at least I got Mirandese right

@@shaide5483 Fala is portuguese beirão with influencia from estremeñu (asturleonese from Extremadura). Mirandese is leonese with influence from português trasmontano

@@oigolueb Fala is older than Português,how could they came from Portguese if they're way older?

I understand 98% and I don't speak portuguese.

I work with a supposed Spanish guy and I understand about 70/80% of Spanish if spoken slowly but he does not understand nearly as much and I'm surprised.

The younger guy on the right is speaking in a way that sounds much more similar to Spanish specifically than the older men, I wonder if that's because it's bleeding into the local language

The younger guy on the left is speaking in a way that sounds much more similar to Spanish specifically than the older men, I wonder if that's because it's bleeding into the local language

I'm portuguese so I understand everything hahahah jajjajajaja

It is "asturleonese",

Not an official language (thats only Portuguese), but recognized (regional language) indeed! :)

Ivona It's official in Portugal, it's the secound official language since 1999. Isn't just Portuguese the official language. The Sign Language it's official since 1997.

Sophia *official* language is only Portuguese - it's the language in which you sign your official papers in and so on.. *Recognized* language is something else and that is indeed Mirandese, sign language and soooo many more dialects- google "Lanugagues of Portugal".

I'm portuguese so I think I know about my country, it's the secound official language since 1999, recently they gave a news report about it. EUA doesn't official language and it's all or almost in English right?

pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%ADngua_mirandesa A língua mirandesa, tal como já foi referida anteriormente, é falada por, sensivelmente, 7 000 a 10 000 pessoas no extremo nordeste de Portugal, sendo desde 1999 a segunda língua oficial do país.

Sabes hablar idioma asturiano? Lo digo porque esto es supuestamente un dialecto del asturiano. Sin embargo, he visto videos de gente de Asturias hablando en asturiano, y me parece muy distinto a esto. Quizás es porque vosotros lo habláis con acento más castellanizado y ellos los mirandeses con acento más portugués, pero luego escrito, sin tener en cuenta la fonética, a lo mejor son casi idénticos.

@@mikelmontoya2965 Exautu

@@mikelmontoya2965 Sim, e por isso é que é preciso ter cuidado em comentar sobre línguas quando não as conhecemos para não cometer erros. E depois há o factor de fluência - há pessoas nestes vídeos que falam a lingua melhor que outras (o senhor da esquerda, por exemplo, não fala mirandês tão bem como os outros dois).

@@mikelmontoya2965 Escrito ye mui paecío, sicasí na mio opinión son dos llingües diferentes (anque dambes de la famili asturllionesa)

O mirandês tem características sintáticas que diferem-no de quaisquer outros dialetos do português. O mirandês, por exemplo, manteve as consoantes intervocálicas "n" e "l" ("luna" em vez de "lua", "arena" em vez de "areia", "tener" em vez de "ter"...), para além de palatizar duplas consoantes latinas ("anho" em vez de "ano", "pequenho" em vez de "pequeno", "galho" em vez de "galo"...). Na sintaxe as diferenças são bem mais notáveis.

Hi, You're very cute ; )

@@metalnordeste8998 Hi, You're very intrusive ; )

Eu tbm e olha o que vi :kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p55xpdOSurHVYXk.html uma trilha sonora com essa língua antes de me recomenda esse

Ela é mais próxima do nosso português brasileiro do que à de Portugal

​@@spoilercortespodcastjurou, no Brasil onde você vive as pessoas comem bacalhau ao invés de estrogonofe, botam sapatos e calça social para ir à padaria e conjugam na segunda pessoa para dirigem-se umas às outras!

What language are you writing in? Is this written Mirandese or some other romance language? Btw, I'm Brazilian and I can understand everything you've said. I find the way those words are written way more interesting than Portuguese ones. hahahahah

你好, 雷道明! Yes, it's written Mirandese. My first contact with Mirandese language was about 12 years ago. I started to love this language when I first heard about it and I read a couple of texts. I also had this feeling, "wow man! it's more interesting than Portuguese" LOL! Just for curiosity: in Mirandese, "You tube" means "I had".

I speak Spanish. This is the first time I've come across this language and I can read your post just fine. I have an easier time reading Mirandés than I do Portuguese. Maybe sometime I'll learn this language too.

Hola, ¡Stephen! También hablo español. That's interesting that you can undertand written Mirandese better than Portuguese. In fact, I think it has more elements from Spanish because Mirandese comes from Asturian-Leonese language. ¡Te animo a que estudies portugués y mirandés!

Let me see if I can get this right: "I am very happy to listen (eiqui=here?) to these stories in Mirandese. It's a very beautiful and special language, (p'alha de fuorte='strongly so'?) (puis subrebibiu=because?) of the influence of Portuguese and Spanish for 800 years (sien ser screbida=it has been written), it has been passed 'by mouth' (orally) to the successors." If you could reply, that'd be great!

América nuestra Nación

este lenguage es "astur-leones" o "asturiano"

Mirandês is a language from Portugal, not Galicia

Ânfora thank you! I found that out recently. It’s in the NE region of Portugal, while the galego is spoken in NW of Spain. Both very fascinating languages with roots dated back to reconquista days. The history of this region is very rich and very important for today’s Iberians make up.

@@maxoliver2665 northeast Portugal and nw Spain basically same people

Sim eu conheci esse idioma nesse link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p55xpdOSurHVYXk.html E realmente é muito linda

same thing for me : i'm french, i have good command of portuguese and spanish, and this mirandes sounds very portuguese to me

I'm Brazilian Portuguese and I can only understand well the writing Mirandese.

Mirandes is Leonese with Portuguese influence. This makes it easy to conceptualize the evolution of this beautiful language.

it's originally part of the astur-leonese family of languages but it's been influenced by portuguese en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asturleonese_language en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirandese_language

You are writing in Asturian, are there any videos that show a good true Asturian accent?

Boa noite. O mirandês ainda é bastante próximo do português de Portugal.

Verdade!

has the language soundtrack : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p55xpdOSurHVYXk.html

heheheheheh

Achas? Pensa melhor... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ppeUacWpsbPIm3U.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p6eiZ5iLnLGqmqs.html

Eu achei o galego mais dificil de se entender por causa do forte sotaque espanhol. Já o Mirandês parece um brasileiro com sotaque de tão aparentado é a forma de falar no ritmo de fala.

Nada a ver. É uma mistura de português com leonês.

@@jmlmo35 como nada a ver, para nós que falamos Português, o idioma Leonês lembra Espanhol, então o comentário dela faz sentido.

@@pldrosa Não é espanhol, mas sim castelhano. Uma coisa é o castelhano (que normalmente as pessoas chamam "espanhol", outra coisa é o leonês. São línguas diferentes. Filogeneticamente, o asturo-leonês faz parte do grupo iberorromance ocidental e surge da peculiar evolução que sofreu o latim no Reino das Astúrias (posteriormente Reino de Leão). O grupo asturo-leonês divide-se em três blocos (ocidental, central e oriental) que traçam de forma vertical uma divisão norte-sul, desde as Astúrias até à Terra de Miranda, e compondo assim o domínio linguístico asturo-leonês. Pode parecer "castelhano", nas não é...

Não por que vi essa trilha de música com esse idioma e tem uns tipo de letra que nem eu mesmo pronunciará direito olha:kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p55xpdOSurHVYXk.html Mas quem cantou realmente bato palmas por que o idioma não é fácil não 😅 eu ficaria o ano todo tentando pegá e cantaria errado

Parece um brasileiro com sotaque de tão aparentado que é da nossa língua! Maravilhoso!

O sotaque minhoto por si só é uma boa representação. Se comparares o seu sotaque co sotaque galego das aldeias, repararás que são incrivelmente semelhantes (são iguais até)

@@afonsoferreira2652,apesar de se debater, muitos concordam que são a mesma língua.

It sounds closer to Brazilian Portuguese than European Portuguese

@@josuegabriel8066 that's impossible..

André parece o sotaque de pessoas idosas do interior do Brasil.

Legacy of the old Celtiberians

The one in the middle could be some French legacy or something.

My grandfather looked eastern European, hazelblue eyes and dark blond ish hair

@@assassin3003 French legacy? This is Portugal not Eastern Spain, but i get what you mean, they do look (and are) Celtic and Germanic.

@@thebrocialist8300 It's "homem" and he is just tanned.

no tiene nada q ver con catalan. ni suena a catalan.

has the language soundtrack : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p55xpdOSurHVYXk.html

has the language soundtrack : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p55xpdOSurHVYXk.html

Eles são tão parecidos com a gente na fala que parecem um brasileiro com sotaque! Incrível!

Sim. Entendi uns 99,9%. Achei interessante o R vibrante.

Y con el español también! demasiado!

I consider that they and me (from Xixón) speak the same language (which name is up to you haha) but different dialects (asturian and mirandés). They seem to me portugueses speaking in occidental asturian (Tineo, Salas if you want to search it in Google Maps). If I were from Tineo, I do not know if I would consider their language as the same dialect. The greatest difference is the pronunciation, which is the most influenced by Spanish and Portuguese.

I'm from Asturian and I consider them two different languages. I've heard and read a lot mirandese since I have a mirandese friend and I try to speak to him in Asturian and he in mirandese and we have a lot of trouble understanding each other. However, this is a lot more similar to Western Asturian, and even more similar to the leonese dialects spoken in Zamora, probably speakers of those dialects understand them better.

Galician don't have "pequeño", "año", "bien", "you", etc.

caralho vc é um deus mano parabens

@@leobrz eu sou tbm, eu entendi tudo

Honestly it is portuguese tbh

Eu tbm pude entender , não tudo , mas entendi muito . Pra falar a verdade as vezes não entendo nem o português quando fala . Falo inglês tbm e quando escuto o inglês britânico tbm tenho um pouco de dificuldade para entender, vai por osmose.

@@Marsandri kkkkkk

Actually not. Mirandese has some phonemes that Standard European Portuguese don't have.

He tried to anyway lol wtf.

lol... like a frog.

He didn't it went on his forehead and then flew off

He tried. But don't worry. The fly escaped. You can seet it later on his forehead

Isso é porque nunca ouviste um português do Norte, estupor!

Yes, this consonant disctinction used to also be present in Galician-Portuguese, Old Leonese and Old Spanish. Extremaduran also has it in some form.

Antônio e' a maneira que se escreve no Brasil

@@gca7046 sim

@@gca7046 Não só se escreve como se pronuncia. E soa diferente do que pronunciar AntÓnio, onde o O é aberto e não fechado como vocês dizem.

Very good question! Mirandese is not a dialect of Portuguese because it did not develop from Portuguese. Portuguese, Spanish, Mirandese and the other Astur-Leonese languages-Asturian, Leonese, Extremaduran, and so on-each developed independently and simultaneously from Latin. So, at best, you could make the case that Mirandese and Portuguese are two dialects of the same Latin language, but calling it a Portuguese dialect or "mere transitional dialect" has political, not scientific, connotations. In other words, even though Spanish and Portuguese are more socially and politically prestigious, they are not older languages than Mirandese and other regional varieties, nor are they more "complete" languages. By extension, they aren't scientific reference points for evaluating smaller Iberian languages. In linguistics, mutual intelligibility is not the defining metric for classifying one language from another (see Norwegian and Swedish, Hindi and Urdu, Galician and Portuguese, and more). In fact, classifying one language from another is nowhere near as objective as say, classifying one species from another, because language is the expression of culture-it embodies human subjectivity. Linguists consider a set of factors when engaging in linguistic classification. They look at the vocabulary of different languages, as well as their syntax (grammar), historical evolution (how did these languages evolve?), and cultural identity. This often leads-and has always led-to languages with high degrees of mutual intelligibility being classified as separate languages. Academic recognition of your community's language/dialect makes it possible to secure a three-letter ISO code, which makes it possible to expand browser recognition, machine translation and predictive text (autocorrect) to your language/dialect; it can also provide the institutional legitimacy to secure political recognition so your language/dialect can be taught in schools. In other words, what's important here is not whether Mirandese and Portuguese are two distinct varieties of the same language; what's important is that both Mirandese and Portuguese can continue to exist.

@@Wikitongues That was beautiful 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Portugal

*Brazilian Language.

@@natanluisp Português* cara

@@natanluisp The Brazilian language was an extinct indigenous language that in the 18th century was replaced by Portuguese.

Asturiano falado na Espanha.

Alline Cardoso Dos Anjos só se for no Brasil.... Em Portugal o correcto é AntÓnio. Ninguém se chama “Antônio” em terras lusas.

@Aline Cardoso português o caralho! Em Portugal, onde se fala português, diz-se António

@@avantelvsitania3359 Brasil com S, por favor...

edmoneul souza de facto

@@snoowwe Lava essa tua boca imunda. Ao contrário de mim, ela não sabia, você explicou. Bastava isso.

Orlando Rivas are you Spanish?

é outra língua Portuguesa do norte de Portugal .

What??

Não é dialeto, é uma língua.

@@Leonardo-se4su Ops, vdd kkk

O 'R' alveolar vibrante pode ser encontrado em todo o Portugal, especialmente nos meios não urbanos. Nos meios mais urbanos é menos usado, mas ainda se pode ouvir bastante nas gerações mais velhas. Nos filmes e documentários dos anos 30 e 40, é a pronúncia predominante.

@@jandeolive6007 Obrigado por responder =)

@@BrunoGomes-ne9eo Disponha!🙏 Alveolar vibrado... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iJpknMeb3szUl5c.html

I thought it is very similar and easy to understand for all those people that speak Portuguese, Spanish, and maybe Italian. I speak Spanish and Italian, and I understood so good

+Adriana Trujillo-Ortega Same here.

Usually who speak Mirandese also speak Portuguese and in some cases also Spanish. To be honest except in the zones where the language it's spoken we don't listen it to much.

I think it change person to person. Usually a portuguese understand a spaniard but the same doesnt happen becuase of the difference of sounds.

It is more difficult to learn to write it correctly than it is to Understand it. If you know how to differentiate the accents you can Understand Galician, Portuguese, Spanish, Mirandese, Italian Etc.

Essa língua é o "Astur Leones", uma língua que se falava nas Astúrias e no reino de Leão (hoje quase desapareceu), bem diferente da língua castelhana (que é o que se costuma chamar de língua espanhola).

It's in the Astur-Leonese subfamily, not Galician-Portuguese subfamily.

@@realhawaii5o I know it, I just say that languages are similar

@@realhawaii5o has a strong northern portuguese accent though.