One of the times I played this scenario, I cleared the Jin TC and castle, and thought I was nearly safe. Then I saw the blacksmiths go down one by one like some ominously terrifying countdown. Got a villager to spam palisades at random in the central area and breathed a sigh of relief when there was no more space for the wonder. Then... they started a wonder in the south of the island. *sigh*

40:02 You CAN tell rams to be more active, just change them from defensive stance to attack stance and they will bust down anything and everything in sight

i found that scenario pretty hard as a casual :D

One time I tried to complete this and I felt safe they wouldn't build a wonder because the blacksmiths were still there. There just build the wonder in a different area. So don't feel safe just because the blacksmiths are still there.

There is a way to cheese this scenario, it basically keeps you safe on land from everyone else so you can boom and focus on jin. move the ram to the great wall's three gates and break them all down, then build your own 3 gates in their place. No idea why but the AI gets confused and they usually travel around trying to pass through instead of breaking them down.

Sheep on transports? So beautiful, I am in shock!

*throat singing while riding a horse on the steppe intensifies*

I knew it! I wasn't crazy! The AI is much better prepared now. Thanks for updating it!

I've been so into the pacifist run lately that, when i saw you start killing the crossbow at the start, i was seriously confused, thinking you already lost the challenge XD

Y aquí tienes un comentario en español, además que diré que quede sorprendido, de niño siempre sufría con la maravilla al faltarle minutos de los 100 años 😂😂😂

To prevent idle rams just patrol them on aggressive.

Whenever I play this scenario I take all my units and set up a base north of the Jin, and I wall off. The other Chinese npcs dont cross the sea to attack and you only have to deal with the Jin and I always use the Ram or Onager to take out the Wonder right when they start to build it. Then usually the Jin give up and I take all their resources and then cross back to take out the other Chinese nps. Also there are bombard cannons inside the wall that are left by the engineers.

Yess! I got the "I was in China before" achievement today after following a good portion of your playthrough. My army management is utter bollocks though, so used a proliferation of castles throughout the Jin base to maintain position. Thank you so much for the modelling!

Thank you so much for all of these achievement videos. They help out so much

I played it after saw your poll , i played for 2 hour then got defeated by the wonder

I tried the push early on but instead of trying going inside their walls I just built it next to them, by the boars to the east. Gave them a lot of headaches with a castle until I could push in with siege and Mangudai. By the time they started destroying the blacksmiths I was already inside their walls taking down towers and with trebs taking down everything else But gotta thank you for the previous video that gave me that idea!

I started aoe2 DE not so long ago but since I started I am very bad right now :D but seeing you do all this crazy stuf and beat the scenarios and im glad I found your channel right there very fun to watch it's acualy chill and enjoyable :DDDDDDD

19:48 "Floating a lot of wood there" *70 villagers on wood* Checks out :D

The steps I've followed: 1 - Go to East, build some houses and destroy the towncenter 2 - Send 5 villagers to East, to Jin's Island and build a TC close to the 2 boars, I've let a villager in the old island for getting wood 3 - Build a BlackSmith and a Market and upgrade to Castle Age 4 - Gather as much food and wood as it's possible 5 - Build a castle in the East gate, blocking villagers access to wood 6 - Use the ram for braking the gate, and then destroy their TC 7 - Send a small group of skirmishers (15~20) for killing Chu-Ku-Nu and some scouts/cavalary archers for killing villagers Tips: -Searching for bombard cannons doesn't worth the time -foccus on killing their villagers with fast units, and skriminshers for killing chu-ku-nu -ignore the towers, you can destroy them after defeating Jin -don't destroy the market, it will be really usfefull after Jim's defeat -you won't need to worry about knights if you start attacking them fast. If you take too long, you'll have to bring some spearmen

So I see Pop Cap is higher than 75. That was always one of my biggest challenges with the campaigns, was adjusting between 200 pop cap in Random Map games, and 75 pop cap in the campaigns. I'm guessing the original limit and the update are both due to hardware limitations at the time of release?

You have to shows us some of your multiplayer matches. You seem to be pretty good at the game.

Great job, I watched both your attempts. I rather beat everything my own before watching other players. I beat this scenario on Hard, but to get this achievement I had to go standard to get some slack from the enemies, on standard at the start they would just attack my buildings and not my vils, that way I was able to boom quicker. I did something similar took 4 vils to Jin's island but I didn't know about the two boars, so I got the other two vils back to Mongolia and built a mill between the two large bushes, once in castle I built another TC there as well, but I'm just no that good at booming, I was only on 2 tc and took me too long even in standard. I started the attack at 35 minute mark, at 40 minute mark I was just past the first gate/towers (I also had brought the bcs from blue), once I saw 40min on the clock I just rushed my mangudai and ca and started killing vils losing a lot to towers and chukonu, but luckily the blacksmiths were never deleted and I could stop it, but I just defeated it by 55min mark

Isnt it easier to transport a scout behind the wall with the ship, in the time you take the engineers town? By the time you're capturing their town, the scout can go for the cannons from the western corner of the wall, and return to the wall gates. Then as you destroy the gates and the nearby towers, Red will come with scorpions and rams, and youll be able to flatten them with attack ground, and the goal is to build your own gates instead of the enemy's, for securing the entire half of the map for you. Meanwhile you should also progress as far as preparing the landing on Yellow island. Make a stone wall cage and trap your cannons inside, then agro enemies with scouts and kill them with the cannons. Jin is done in this way by 30 mins in-game, and the next enemy should be Teal, because his side has resources untapped. Then attack Red and Green from south and east, that's how I've always done this quest, and in like 45-50 mins, everything is dead. You could even populate the river south with war galleys to kill so many villagers crossing the shallows.

I tried this more than a few times without success. I could never quite manage the time constraints. Finally decided to go all in on building my initial houses, docks and TC on the Jin island, and simultaneously sending the surviving scouts to get the bombards from the second engineers base. By the time I was ready to castle up the bombards were back with my main force and I could use those to knockout the towers and gate. Only drawback is that until you can access the gold mines in the Jin base, you have to use gold only for absolutely necessary items, and trade food/wood for gold.

I just got the achievement, i started my base at the north of jin, in a spot where theres boar, I took the ship from the engineers and mongolia to get my economy going then basically spammed trash units protecting the bombard canons

Comento en español ya que mi ingles no es muy bueno. Despues de intentarlo como 10 veces y habiendo visto los 2 videos de TWest, por fin pude obtener el logro. Lo hice de forma parecida a la del video, colocando el TC cerca de los 2 jabalies, luego construi una herreria y una galeria de tiro y pasé a Castillos (no sin antes construir un mercado y vender madera y comida para tener los 200 de oro para avanzar). Al pasar de edad construí un castillo cerca de las 2 torres más cercanas junto a la mina de oro dentro de la muralla. Derribé las 2 torres y rompí el muro con el ariete inicial. Acto seguido construi otro TC cerca de la mina de oro dentro del muro, y con una combinacion de arietes, piqueros y mangudais logré interrumpir su economia a la vez que enfrentaba a sus chu ko nus y caballeros (ellos ya estaban en Imperial). Luego detecte que constryeron un tc afuera de la muralla y construi otro casrtillo cerca para derribarlo, matar sus aldeanos y finalmente obligarlos a retirarse. Thanks you TWest!

set rams to aggresive and patrol them to clean all buildings

T-West, was it really necessary to tear down the Great Wall? Like honestly?

I excited

I don't know what was happening when I was trying this one. I tried this on hard, and I loaded all my units on Jin island and dropped a castle right outside their walls, they might or might not be suppressed by that since after that they just kept sending units to die under my castle, but I didn't see them building wonders even at 50 minutes. I thought I was safe as I already have massed Mangudais near where their Blacksmith was, and then they just decided to surprise me by building it at outside the wall. I was playing on Casual (1.5x) so I wonder if that interferes with this, but honestly I think it will always trigger at 40 minutes regardless or speed.

? I usually take everything and go live entirely on the jin island and if I take their resources early enough and reach castle age and handle their few knights and cho ko nu, I could end up beating them early enough and also bring over the bombard cannons to finish the job. With me in their area, I would then be able to get to post imperial age on their island and trade with their market for lots of gold and then I can go to fight the other 3 enemies and avoid all their troops while building up.

When i first time i comleted this mission i got achivment i didnt even know there is i traposrted all my troops to island and i transported bombards so i build base on island i went to castle age to build castle and i used monks to convert jin knights so knights could protect bombard cannons

Could you play Leo Loi Campaign - The Dai Viet Uprising (mission 1) and defeat all enemies?

T-west, was it really necessary to destroy half of the Great Wall? You destroyed 2 wonders!

hey May i ask a funny and practical question? can we achieve an achievement after modifying it in the scenario editor? i just wanna know, for sure. :)

I'm curious... how do you manage to get the campaign maps into the editor for Def Edition? Is it a download/file drop from the community workshop?

I still haven't done this Achievement because it requires starting from Feudal Age, 5 other Achievements require building up first.

I build my base in Jin's island, rush castle age, build a castle and archery range in front of their gate Then I train lots of calvary archer, about 20, use ram and magonel to burst the gate. I lure their knight and kill them 1 by 1 Then I just camp their town centre, kill every villager and eventually they resigned

only 0.5% of people have this achievement and i am one of them :)

Haha what are the chances that 2 min after I watch the old one you upload an updated one

is that the games original music? I didnt hear that track before (at the start)

Yo, T-West. I've been watching your videos depicting ways to unlock the rare AOE 2 achievements, for example, 'I was in China Before'. I analysed your way of expanding into Jin's territory, I checked the time stamps for the particular transitions etc. I play on Hard, of course. I've tried so far 5 or 6 times to unlock this achievement they way you do, but I've always been a couple of minutes too late. It looks like playing as fast as you do in your gampley is impossible for me. I seem to be unable to build up my eco and army before the 30th minute mark like you showed in your video. You have a huge army and a huge economy past the 30th mintues, while I struggle to keep up with everything. I try to spam vills, build multiple TCs and even a defensive Castle. Everythings seems to be not good enough. Do you have any tips for noobs like me? Or are the rare achievements unavailable for the likes of me? Beating the game on easier difficulty levels isn't quite up my alley, because I'm quite ambitious. I'm starting to feel, though, that I don't have the necessary speed to do so. I'd apprecaite your reply. Thanks. I have tried several times again, but the fact is that I have to face the 'painful' truth that the rare achievements in this game, when set to Hard, are restricted to a bunch of talented players (like yourself). The rest of us has to concede with lowering down the difficulty or skipping the achievements.

Guys it does not give me the trophey when i kill them beffore destroing their blacksmiths.Can someone say to me what i need to do to fix this pls?

Honestly, Into China used to be my least favorite mission due to the fact Jin built a Wonder. But when you defeat them, you're free to pace yourself

I moved everything over to north of jin, and beat them under 40 minutes and didn't get the achievement... happened like a year ago.

Como le hiciste para el mapa de la mision 3 de genghis khan??

How are you able to see the code for the game in VS Code?

Does getting rid of outposts have an effect on the AI?

I defeated Jin before they destroyed the blacksmiths and it didn't trigger the achievement :(

I can't read the top bar. Did he have 100+ villagers?

how are you so zoomed out, i swear my game does not let me do it so much. can anybody enlighten me? cheers

they build that wonder now after 24 minutes -.-

This achievement is ez to get, but not ez for me to speedrun. Coz I've found perfect place to build a kingdom.🤣🤣 1:34 I still dont understand how to use AI Signal. Like, wut will they do if I give AI Signal 1, 2, etc.

I hate campaign updates. I wouldn't mind the Poles and such replacing the Slaves or the AI being updated if it did not alter the campaign.

My count down was at 25 mins, not 40, there is some BS on this achievement

f this mission bro lmao i'm not doin this