As a member of the Apache tribe. I am from bylas, Arizona. I have to say that your respect for our people is very much appreciated.

My Grandmother was born in 1911. She passed away in 1981. I'll never forget her telling me a story about her seeing wild Apaches on horseback running along side a train she was riding to California when she was a young girl in the 1920's. She was firm in her belief these were wild Indians, and she never changed her story. She said there wasn't a town anywhere near where she saw them. They were in the middle of nowhere. I loved her and would never hurt her feelings intentionally, but I never took her story serious until now, after watching this video. It's amazing to me that after all these years I find out she possibly saw wild Apaches.

I live on a little ranch dating back to 1882 right on the AZ/NM line NE of Douglas. In 1924 (certainly associated with the raid you mention in your opening) some Apache came in to steal the horses. The ranch was owned by a family named May at that time and he had "lion dogs" (apparently he had a sideline hunting cougars for pay) which began baying in the middle of the night. The family was quickly up and armed, and he released his hunting dogs which chased the Apache east back into the Peloncillo range. That saved the May family horses, but the Apache continued south to kill a wrangler or two and steal horses from other ranches. They crossed into Mexico at "White Gate" (I've never been able to determine what or where White Gate is), and I don't know if or when that band of escapees from San Carlos was ever caught. Related, I've read the Mexican army was still fighting bands of Apache in the 1940s. Imagine that, while the world is wrapped in a world war the Mexican cavalry was still skirmishing with the Apache in the Sierra.

The American author, Paul Wellman, wrote a novel called 'Broncho Apache' which was based on a real event. It describes how an Apache warrior escaped from the train which was transporting Geronimo and his band to Florida in 1886 somewhere east of St Louis and how, over several months, made his way back to Arizona. He then continued his resistance against both the US and Mexico over the next few years.

I used to work for an Apache lady near Dulce New Mexico . The Granddaughter of Chief Vittorio. There was an really old car on the ranch half buried . The story was Vittorio owned the first car on the reservation. When important visitors came to the ranch the Chief would hook up a team of horses to pull his guests around the ranch in his car .

My grandfather was an Apache from New Mexico, married a Spanish woman (my grandmother) so I love to hear about the early American Indian history. My family is from Las Vegas New Mexico. The Gallegos family.

My grandfather was full blooded Apache and his father use to tell him stories about killing white people and Mexican soldiers supposedly he ran with both Cochise and Geronimo. Sadly the family was largely illiterate at the time so not much was written down and my father doesn't like telling what little he does remember apparently my grandfather and great-grandfather were not nice men. It's crazy how much can change in just three generations. Anyway love your stuff brother keep it up you're a criminally underated site.

As someone who used to live in New Mexico, this history is so incredibly important ot preserve and talk about

Anybody who's ever seen trained scout/snipers at work knows the hiding in plain sight is not a lost skill at all. In fact when I learned some of it as a boy in Boy Scouts I realized hiding in the open is the best concealment of all. I know of a Jewish boy who was in a concentration camp late in WWII, having been selected as a worker. The Germans started killing everybody in the camp in preparation for fleeing the Soviets. Fortunately he had procured a bottle and filled it with water. He looked everywhere for places to hide, including the latrines, but people were everywhere. Finally he hid in short grass in the middle of an open field, much as described here by Cremony. He stayed there three days and nights, almost motionless. He never knew if he was the only survivor as the Germans seemed to find everyone else, but they never saw him though they often walked within feet of him. Grace of God and staying flat. He later hid in the marshes and forests unril the Soviets came. Then they put him in one of their camps but he eventually escaped west and finally got to the US.

1924: my parents were in their freshman year in high school. The Apache predated upon Zuni Pueblo and many other Indian clans. Even my grandfather, born on the Pawnee Reservation in eastern Nebraska, told of the tales of the predations of the Apache. The Apache' s Reputation proceeded them.

I've read a lot on the Apache wars and have visited many locations here in Arizona. You've done a fine job in this presentation, your resources are good. I find all the stories during this time fascinating. Arizona truly was the wild west.

The apaches are amazing. I grew up in El Paso, TX and the stories I read and heard gave me a respect and admiration for them as a people. The Butterfield stage ran through Hueco Tanks and the spring there was a refuge and redoubt for the Apache. Guadeloupe Canyon in Texas was also. Cool video.

My Great-Great Grandmother was a Lipan Apache. She was born in 1874 and died in 1957. Unfortunately, those in my family who really knew her story wouldn't talk about it. I really wish that I could have met her. I have one picture of her though, and that picture is truly cherished.

THANKS For THE HISTORICAL NARRATIVE OF THE GREAT APACHE NATION HISTORY.

Fantastic, thank you. I grew up (in Scotland) reading such stories of the wild west and the Apache.

This is awesome. My great grandparents were born and raised in Southwest New Mexico in the early 1900s. Some of their parents migrated up there from Mexico, and some had already been there since the mid 1800s. My great grandmother who was born in 1912 had many pictures of her parents and grandparents. When I say pictures they were drawings, and a few tin photos. She had all of them on her dresser until the day she passed. Makes me sad I couldn't talk to her about the old days. Also, I have a great grandmother who is full blood Tarahumara. It's exciting to think about my family being from the heart of the wild west.

I find the old West and Native American History more interesting than any other subjects and I could listen to you tell about these things all day long. I love to hear you talk and the way you tell present things. THANK YOU SO MUCH! Please keep up the great work!

I grew up in New Mexico, just a short distance from the Mescalero reservation, in the 1950's. We briefly moved to Phoenix when I was about 9. I can't tell you how many classmates asked me if we had to fight the Indians on our trip from New Mexico to the apparently civilized city of Phoenix. I laughed at them, as it was ludicrous. But it was also important knowledge to know to never go on the reservation alone and never ever go after dark. People had a tendency to disappear if they did and investigations were not conducted as to their whereabouts. My mother told horrific stories of her parents hiding from raiding parties. Thanks for the videos and relating the history.

Thanks for the video! I have made it my life passion to learn as much as possible about American Indian People! I live on an Indian Reservation in Wyoming, have visited with many Apache People at San Carlos, and was told by an AIM leader that I was a remarkable individual because Apaches don't talk to White people! I'm White and had no difficulty talking with them and learning about conflicts with their own Tribal Council Members! I was even asked to be a member of the honor guard for the Apache Elders at the evening Pow Wow in Phoenix! I love Native people! They are wonderful, humorous, and fun to be with!

I read "Life among the Apaches". It is a very good and believable book. He knew more of the Apaches than most.

Bro, you're the best. Your pacing, knowledge and attention to detail plus the fact that you face the camera makes this a very real, vivid telling of the story. Great execution

Would love to hear more about the Apache Indians in that time of American history. Great video

The Apache of old were rightly feared, but as with any skill, you either use it or lose it. I recall reading an article many years ago by one famous gun scribe who recounted an event during WWII where several German POWs escaped their camp in the southwestern US, apparently bent on reaching Mexico. The military hired some Apaches from a nearby reservation to track them down. Instead of finding the Germans, they became lost themselves and had to be rescued by the US Border Patrol. These young braves were only one or two generations removed from Germanimo.

Great and respectful portrayal of the Apache People! First experience of Geronima I had was visiting his grave while stationed at Ft. Sill, OK. in 1960. He died about 1921 while under arrest still. The name when you jump out of airplane is "GERONIMO" not "GERONIMA" LOL I learned the Apache are kin to the Nahjova people in New Mexico, who have Pueblo (Brick) cities, and farm. On their own accord before Europeans. Thanks again for your research and Humanity in your description!

My late husband, who was Apache and Hopi would say, "The winner gets to write history". It would be helpful if you interviewed Apache people, and asked them about their past. As Americans, we applaud when we are defiant and warring i.e. revolutionary war, French/Indian war, but when other people groups war, it's barbaric. I have lived most of my life with the Apache people, my children are Apache...please, let them tell their past.

I'm seriously interested in knowing more about the Apache raiding into the 1950s in Mexico!

This is just my 2nd video of yours, they are absolutely wonderful, well produced and presented. Thank you very much, and yes, please keep them coming !

Dates and dead guys might be the best name for a history Channel.

I just found your channel about a week ago and I subscribed right off the bat. I believe that a long episode on Orrin Porter Rockwell would be fantastic.

Keep this stuff coming. I love waking up on the weekend and having my morning coffee with your content.

Absolutely incredible people, would definitely love to know more about Apache peoples. Awesome.

Great video homie. I can recommend you to read into the Modoc Wars (Battle of Sand Butte, First and Second Battle of the Stronghold for example). Would be nice seeing somebody cover the untold stories of smaller nations such as the Modoc and their great war chiefs such as Scarface Charley and Kintpuash/Captain Jack. A vid about St. Claires defeat (Biggest defeat in the history of the US Army) would be interesting too.

In a biography I read about one of Geronimo's few remaining warriors towards the end of his days off the reservation the old warrior discussed a point when the US Army was pursuing them relentlessly, the small band was tired, warn out, starving, and knew they needed something that would slow the soldiers down just enough to let them disappear into Mexico for a while to recuperate. A number of the band were very old and they counselled among themselves for a bit and then spoke of their plan. They knew that their age was so advanced that they likely would not make it to the border, and they also felt they were slowing down the entire band, and using resources that would better serve the younger people. They reminded Geronimo's that the next day, towards evening they would be passing through a canyon, and the soldiers chasing them would almost certainly enter the canyon as night came on. And that the canyon would be so dark that white soldiers would not risk continuing in the dark. They proposed that some of the older, less effective carbines and pistols be distributed among the elders. Then they would stay behind as the rest of the band moved on. They would wait until the soldiers camped, their fires would illuminate the soldiers as well as blind them as they looked into the dark canyon. At this time the old men and women would begin sporadically taking shots at the soldiers from positions above them on the canyon walls. This would cause the soldiers to not be able to cook, or to sleep as they would be expecting an attack at some point during the night. The plan was accepted. They began shooting, seemingly at random moments, but with startling accuracy and soon the soldiers were hiding behind any rock or clump of sage that they could they did not dare approach the fire to extinguish it for fear of being picked off. Gradually the shots diminished as the ammunition ran almost completely out. Some of the more fearless soldiers found pieces of driftwood washed into the canyon from a long ago flood and made torches. Then they began climbing up the canyon wall towards where they had seen muzzle flashes. The sound of the shots had been useless as they echoed so badly that you couldn't tell where they originated from. When they climbed as high as they dated, the only sounds were the flames on their torches, and the occasional cursing as a soldier slipped or tripped over a rock. They wandered the ledges, looking everywhere that seemed possible and found nobody. The soldiers believed that once again the Apaches had slipped away....But they had not. They knew they were too old to try and move quickly enough to get away from the mostly young, healthy soldiers. So they utilized a key principal of camouflage that the Army still teaches today. They took advantage of the knowledge that when a human is searching for other humans they tend to look for two things. Motion, and the familiar shape that is what identifies us as humans. The Apache know that to avoid being seen by soldiers, they needed to remain motionless, and adopt strange unhumanlike poses and postures against the canyon wall. The soldiers passed within a couple feet of many of these old Apache and even with the aid of torches saw none of them. Eventually they went back down to the campsite to wait for dawn as it was already glowing outside of the canyon. Then they broke camp and moved off The Apache still remained frozen until the soldiers moved beyond sight. They then split into smaller groups, knowing where the band was headed, knowing the shortcuts, and knowing that the soldiers would be following the band, each smaller group attempted to catch up to their families, surprised to have survived the night . Only a handful ever managed to see their people again. Most died of exposure or fatigue, or starvation out there somewhere in that vast expanse of desert southwest. The warrior in the biography was obviously among them, actually meeting up with Geronimo's last few family members after he finally surrendered and was being led into captivity by the soldiers. The old man and his 2 companions approached the procession to either die in an attempt to free their people or to surrender alongside the last of their people. They surrendered. At some point, through broken English, Spanish, and Apache scouts the old man's story was told to one of the soldiers who had climbed up the canyon wall with a torch in one hand and a pistol in the other and had seen nobody. The soldier was shocked, impressed, and a bit anxious at how well these ancient Apache had fooled them. He stated that he had in fact been sure he could even smell the warriors they were looking for, that he knew they must have came close to catching them. The warrior told him he had been so close that when that soldier had spit some tobacco juice the warrior had heard it splatter on a rock. The soldier actually remembered spitting and said he got chills realizing he had been that close to an enemy that wished him dead and never knew it until that moment. Some of the soldiers did not believe any of this until a couple of children were allowed to demonstrate the art of becoming terrain instead of human.

Excellent format and great stories! Keep them coming!

Being "in the know" I have to say you were spot on in everything in your video. I can't add anything else but "more videos, please. If you hunt in Apache territory, hire an Apache guide and they will bring you close enough to pet your quarry. Absolutely masterful video!

I always like true stories, unbiased, about the Apache! I would like to hear more about 20th Century raids and whereabouts/raids as well as their defeat by the Comanche/ if that's true. Great video!

Love listening to these stories while I work!

Thank you, I love this - Apache history is my favorite. Such a resilient people. More please!

I live in Mesa AZ. The victor's get to write the History but as we know there's always two sides of any story and I'd love to hear the other side of the stories but will still love to hear more of your stories if you have any. Great piece of work indeed.

I don't know why I need to point this out but the Apache and Navajo were very recent newcomers to the Southwest. They came from the northwest and are linguistically distantly related to the Shoshone and other Northwest peoples. They seem to have wandered down from Alaska and are the last peoples to cross from Siberia into the Americas. The Spaniards were in the Southwest decades before the first ones appear in the records. They raided the Pueblo tribes long native to the area. As these peoples were Catholic subjects of the Spanish Crown it was obligated to protect them. That's how the wars between the Spaniards and the Apache/Navajo started. The Mexicans inherited this upon independence and the Americans inherited it upon their assumption of control in the late 1840's. If anybody started it, it was the Apache/Navajo raids on the civilized Pueblo farmers in the late 1500's, during the early days of Spanish rule in New Mexico and Arizona. They also raided west to the Southern California missions after they were established in the 1770's and deep into Mexico.

Keep 'em coming. And thanks again.

I really enjoy your stories! I appreciate the amount of research that you must have done. Thank you for sharing these fascinating stories. I look forward to hearing more. ❤

I ran a marathon. at age 18, without any training so I believe hardened, tough warriors being chased with the threat of death by bullet or sword, could have been done by the Apache. Of course, it would represent an extreme circumstance, we could both agree. Also read about the exploits of the tarahumara indians of northern mexico. I know 70 miles is excessive, but historically possible. Even Daniel Boone ran over 100 miles to warn settlers of an impending raid.

New sub. Very interesting. Do a deep dive on these late raids. Thanks for your hard work.

Well done professor. Many thanks. Definitely inspired and learning.

Yes, please elaborate further. Thank you. Great content.

Would love to hear some more! Great stories!

The narration is about eastern Apaches, Mescalero, Jicirilla and Chiricahua. Western Apaches were more settled. But, even the eastern Apaches farmed and were hunters and gatherers. But, it's true, though, the Chiricahua were most aggressive. But, they were merely responding, rather successfully, as long as they could, to their changing environment, the Spanish, the Mexicans and the Americans.

Please, do tell us more. Just amazing history, well told!

Great content, really interesting,keep em coming.

its hard to imagine any tougher people than the apaches

Thank you very interesting history of the apache people would like to see more ! The way you comment is very clear and shows both ssides ! Greatings from Munich Germany

Respect your knowledge. Well researched and good concise explanations.

we want to hear more..and more . thank you for this upload

MORE APACHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice episode. Additionally info on the Apache tribe would be great.

Enjoy this very much waiting for your next one. Thank you

Thanks for a great video. Enjoyed it.

Awesome truthful no BS presentation.

Spent 2.5 yrs in the ARMY GUARD on Border Ops / Counter Narcotics duty. I got to sleep where Geronimo slept. My admiration for the Chiricahua knows no bounds.

Just discovered Dates & Dead Guys and I must say I am delighted - more power to you , sir .

I found your channel yesterday and have now watched four of your videos and I must congratulate you on their quality and quality of your presentation

Yes- more please! Tom brown jr. (wilderness survival instructor) teaches skills he claims to have learned from an old Apache in the 1950’s.

Good read!! AZ history is my passion. I love to imagine what it was like as I travel through the state and gaze at the mountains and vast Sonoran Desert, those old western movies sometimes weren't really that far off from truth when it comes to the Indian wars.

First time watching this channel, subscribed before video was over, can't wait to hear more. Thanks for your research .

Great video, great channel. Had to subscribe after watching. Thanks

i realy admire the apache for their skills and hardiness.

That was Good. I didn't realize Geronimo had met with Teddy Roosevelt

Yes I'd love to hear more stories, thanks

Really enjoying these...thank you!!

LOVED THE HISTORY ; CAN YOU DO A PRESENTATION ON THE NATIVE AMERICANS OF KENTUCKY GOING BACK AS FAR AS POSSIBLE TO CURRENT DATE PLEASE ; THANKYOU SO MUCH.

Just been reading the apache wars from paul andrew hutton, great book. I’m new to the channel and yes i would like to see more 👍👍

2nd video I've watched of yours, love the content! Your going to grow.

Most definitely would love to hear more 👍🏽

Just stumbled upon your channel from the YT homescreen, and I'm glad I did. Your videos are kickass my dude. I had a history teacher in college who taught history like it was a story, much like you do. Best teacher I ever had. Looks like your channel is being picked up by the YT algorithm too! Keep up the good work friend, your channel will go far I think

I believe the last Native/US Army battle was in 1934(?) with the Yaqui. There was a lot of unrest with the Yaqui and Mexico and the group was heading north to escape the Mexican forces.

Amazing work man. The realization and the way you deliver your work are perfect. A reserved charisma that without being not entertainning still give all the room to the story itself. Wich is very well build. Cheers!

Happy I found this channel I love this type of content!!

The Apache were there long before the Spanish. Their land was invaded, so they fought back. I was born and raised in NM. The Apache were just trying to survive.

That was a good one . Just finished reading Blood Meridian depicts the area nicely.

My great grandfather was Chiricahua. He was born in 1863. His past is a total blank, except for family stories that were passed down to me. I want to say that your account of history is well rounded and appreciated.

I love your narrations. Your straightforward storytelling gives me the feel of story from experience.

Looking forward to more of your videos! I definitely subscribed and 👍🏼 liked the video

Eve Balls book is awesome. There is a book titled The Bronco Apache I don't remember the author about a battle in 1935 in Mexico with descendants of Geronimos band.

very interesting video 😁 if I may come with a suggestion, it would be great if you slowed down the pace a little so the pictures and stories would sink in better to allow the viewer to take it all in. Specially for us that are not native english speaking. 😊 I hope my comment made some sense ... thank you for an interesting video *new subscriber*

You are an amazing storyteller. Thoroughly enjoyed it

Awesome job, enjoyed every bit of! More please….. 👍🏻😎

Your video somehow reminds me of the arduous travels of Cabeza de Vaca and his ever decreasing in number companions from the shores of Florida, by the upper Gulf of Mexico, to (probably) Galveston Island, to the interior of Mexico, while dealing with a multitude of semi-hospitible to down right hostile bands of natives, while transforming themselves from conquerors, to exolorers, to refugees, to slaves, to exhalted "medicine men".

Thanks for the information. I live in Tucson Arizona only 2 miles from Ft Lowell. A Fort used specifically to kill Apaches. I have an amazing Chiracaua Apache Clan Weapons and Relic Collection. Everything is 1905 and earlier. I have always been fascinated by the Apache Strongholds and Warfare Strategies. I would love to get your take on their Warfare Style and Tactics. Having been to both the Dragoon Mountains ( Cochise Stronghold) and the Chiracaua Mountains ( Geronimo's Stronghold ) I know ambushing their enemy in tight places with few ways to escape was their bread and butter. The Mike Leach Book about this subject is an amazing read if you haven't had the chance. So sad how the Author and Coach just passed away

White Mountain apache here love the video!

Yes, I would like to hear more.. you are a great researcher and story teller

Yes, more! Do you think the Yaqui, who lived in Northern Mexico might have been of any (direct & willing) help to those free Apache?

I remember that tiger clip. Guy lost at least one finger. Maybe a couple from the claws

That was really good work. I enjoyed watching that. I hit the subscribe button.

What an intriguing story and series of vids. I fear I am hooked

More would be great!

I would like to hear more of the Apache and the Comanche. I lived in Comanche Texas and the stories I heard of there exploits were legendary. The American Natives were not savages they were just trying to live as they had lived for centuries. They were concurred as they had concurred.

Wow, the second video in a row, and I am a subscriber now.

Awesome. I've learned a lot. Thank you.

My grandmother's aunt claimed that she was attacked by an apache near Superior, Arizona shortly sometime after 1900. She apparently ran and got away. This gives her story credence. It was said that she hated them as my relatives have told me.