Apex Trader Funding 30% Rule! EXPLAINED!

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2 ай бұрын

Apex Trader Funding 30% Consistency rule explained after so many questions. Everyone wants to talk about this consistency rule and what it is but most don't understand it. The 30% consistency rule is simple if you trade consistently and follow a similar size risk/reward over the 10 day period.
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@nacahkeliy 2 ай бұрын

Patrick I understand exactly what you're saying and it makes sense..... except one thing. 1 to 3 times a month, most full time traders are going to get that "OMG" trade. My trades are very similar to yours in consistency but last Wednesday or Thursday I made $10,000. It was definitely a bogey. You wait for that trade that just won't end. That is why the rule is nonsense. 22 trading days in a month, -$500 to +$1500. Same contract size, 4 micro contracts, yields $8,912 on one trade. This is my fault? I love all that you do, but some rules are for these companies to find a way to not pay.

@BRAS64076 2 ай бұрын

Ive heard from a few people if you get denied due to 30% rule all you have to do is contact support and prove that you traded the same strategy and size a few other days in the payout period and they will still approve the payout.

@nacahkeliy 2 ай бұрын

@@BRAS64076 That's good to know. But they company should already know this and I bet they absolutely know it and just want to put the pressure on the trader. This rule, in general, in my opinion, is a "BS" rule. Just my opinion.

@neverevenheardofit 2 ай бұрын

@@BRAS64076 I've heard the opposite outcome. Anecdotal evidence isn't really helpful.

@AfricanWifeinPakistan Ай бұрын

@@BRAS64076good to know this info.

@jeffstrong4580 Ай бұрын

Consistent profit for trades? If you want consistent pay then get a job. It's rule is for these prop firm and they use these pumper for marketing. FINRA should investigate this.

@albertshao5670 2 ай бұрын

Appreciate you for making this video. Thank you.

@marisehlers9278 2 ай бұрын

I was looking for info on this and here is your video explaining it and you just released it today. Perfect timing. Thank you!

@zefproxy9753 7 күн бұрын

You should check out Precision Funding, their 90% off with better rules than apex and allow up to 25 Funded PA’s!

@inthezone2023 2 ай бұрын

Apex is ok but it's model is designed to ensure traders buy as many accounts as possible..that is upto 20 max...key driver here being you can't withdrawal maximum amount for the first 3 months so you want more money..get more acc, you can't make more than 30% of the intended withdrawal amount, you can only withdraw twice a month, and of course the discounts they offer..to enable traders buy as many accounts as possible..though they know many traders blow accounts as quickly as they get them

@MattsTrades7 2 ай бұрын

Facts

@arnoldsujankatru1734 2 ай бұрын

Lol that means you are not a profitable trader. If you make money it doesn’t matter. I blew 17 evals I’m up 5 PAs all are more than 3000$ on all. And the 3 months is a good time so we are consistent in making profits uf we are so for 3 months that means we know how to trade ,not gambling the news traders. They look for the long term game.

@Rooz-zs4qs 2 ай бұрын

Agree, they make much money from activation fees

@serayahwashington2643 2 ай бұрын

What do you like beside apex ?

@trevaFtrev 2 ай бұрын

Well learn how to be profitable and consistent and it won’t be a problem. Apex pays out millions of dollars a month so that money has to come from somewhere.

@Reiy1999 2 ай бұрын

Wish Apex can clarify this 30% consistency rule. Glad to hear they allow big trades but trade more days

@zefproxy9753 7 күн бұрын

You should check out Precision Funding, their 90% off with better rules than apex and allow up to 25 Funded PA’s!

@zefproxy9753 7 күн бұрын

You should check out Precision Funding, their 90% off with better rules than apex and allow up to 25 Funded PA’s!

@VRHotPotato 19 күн бұрын

Is that 30% rule for all your accounts combined or for each one? And does it start when you have your live account or do they already check how you did pass your evaluation on the demo account?

@justincortez6868 9 күн бұрын

30 percent counts for each one individually, not together. So for instance he was using as an example he makes 20k and the 30% rule says, that 6k he could not have made that much in ONE single trading day if he were to request 6k out. Which as you can see he was being "consistent" 2500 here 1k there 3900 there ect. None of it was above 6k. So he could even request the full 20k if he wanted to cause none of his trades were more than 6k in a single trading day. So that exact rules applies to each other acct individually not together. So he could have made another 20k on another account for a combined total of 40k but the rule applies separately to each account. Not together. Hope this helps.

@ulisesramirez8336 Ай бұрын

Do you know of anyone that has traded the 3 months and has requested a large payout and actually got it?

@nrr26000 2 ай бұрын

Hi, I have a question if you traded 16 days and took payout then you need another 4 days for 2nd payout or another 10 days again ?

@neverevenheardofit 2 ай бұрын

Another 10

@vqfive Ай бұрын

You say there's no news rule and that's what it says on Apex website.But there was a guy here that just said that he got flagged for trading during news. He said he had to prove that he did nothing different.He traded the same before and after, and then they approved his payout. But why was he flagged in the first place for trading during news?

@ZackandJinny 2 ай бұрын

Let's not get this twisted. If you have had a payout with Apex, they are copy trading your accounts. That is how they have all this money to payout. In other words they have the actual money you have made from you trading within these demo accounts. So the 30% rule is more about them making sure if they are copy trading you that your sizing is not changing within a trade, that day or within request periods. If you start sizing up your adding more risk to the trade. They don't want that. That strategy is risky to them if they are copy trading your accounts.

@DaleFamily3291 Ай бұрын

My strategy is to go 1 or 2 mini’s and if the trade continues to go my way I will add 3 mini’s. Is that not allowed?

@lifemarketing9876 23 күн бұрын

then don't size up?

@justincortez6868 9 күн бұрын

well of course thats why its a 90/10 split??? All firms do this. Some do 80/20. Apex has it first 25k you make, all of it is yours then after that its 90/10 split. Whats your point? 90/10 split is pretty damn good if you ask me. I aint complaining.

@a-designers5539 2 ай бұрын

hi sir we have a problem apex not having my country algeria ,can you please ask them to add some countries or can i just register with another country that am no in pleaaaase some one help me

@myst1398 Ай бұрын

I have an important question. I am funded with 1.5 million (5 300k accounts), meaning max payout for first 3 months is $17.5k. However, I am only going to withdraw $17.5k when I am $17.5k above 307,600 (307,600 is when the drawdown limit stops trailing), meaning 311,100 in total per account to withdraw, because when I withdraw I don’t want to go into drawdown. This would mean I want to make $55,500 before withdrawing $17,500 so my drawdown limit still stays above $7500 per account. Regarding the 30% rule, does this mean I can only make 30% of $17.5k in one day, or 30% of $55,500 in one day? An answer would be much appreciated.

@odioncinar3753 26 күн бұрын

@Alpacabowl98 8 күн бұрын

contact them and show them you are consistent if you can I heard they will approve your profits. "Ive heard from a few people if you get denied due to 30% rule all you have to do is contact support and prove that you traded the same strategy and size a few other days in the payout period and they will still approve the payout."

@MrJonnboi 5 сағат бұрын

Hi can you answer this question for me I’ve got a 250k account live I’ve made 9k in 2 days on seperate trades do I just keep trading making the same profit daily till the 10 days is up

@Oren0614 Ай бұрын

if you actually made more money and break rule on this 30% rule, does this mean you just cant do payout on that time period? you gains dont go anywhere right?

@zefproxy9753 7 күн бұрын

You should check out Precision Funding, their 90% off with better rules than apex and allow up to 25 Funded PA’s!

@sveglo5778 2 ай бұрын

Hey guys can i ask if i can request a payout if i have 51.800€ on 50k apexfunding ? can i request for 1800€

@tb2957 2 ай бұрын

Is apex paying you outside of your payouts???

@thabangsebopetsa6813 2 ай бұрын

My question is , if i have a 50k acc how much must i make a day for 10 days to stay in the 30% consistency rule

@BRAS64076 2 ай бұрын

No single trading day can account for more than 30% of account balance. So $3,000 day with a $10,000 account balance is 30%...... $3 day with a $10 account balance is still 30%....... you can make as much as you want, but if you have a single day that is more than 30% of account balance you will have to explain why and prove you did same size and strategy as you normally do and should still get payout if you cant you have to keep trading until account balance is up enough that the big day isnt 30% of balance anymore...... 50k account needs to make 2600 to get a payout... 2600 / 10 days = $260 a day..... or max trade size if only going to make 2600 minimum is 2600x0.30 = $780 max daily gain then the rest of the 9 days you need to make $1820 ($2600 - $780=$1820) so that means $1820 / 9days = $202 a day average..... but if you just trade consistantly (the same way every trade) you really shouldnt have an issue with the 30% rule because even if you break the 30% rule you can just prove that you traded like every other day and your payout will still get approved.

@justincortez6868 9 күн бұрын

you can make as much as you want its just when you go to pay out it cant be more than 30 percent on a single day of trading. So lets say you make 15k in 10 days. 10000 times 30 percent is 3000. So if you go to request 10k none of yours trades for a single day can be more than 3k for a single day. Does that make sense?

@buretech 26 күн бұрын

"If someone could help me, I have a funded account of $250k. On the first day, I made $1392, and on the second day, I made $671. I have 8 days left until my first payout and to complete the 10 days. How much should I aim to make per day to maintain consistency with the 30% rule? Additionally, I want to leave a safety net of $6600 and withdraw $3000. How much should I aim to make per day in the remaining 8 days to achieve these goals?"

@SB-by2iv 22 күн бұрын

$6600 + 3000= 9600 x .3= $2880..... Therefore try not to make any more than $2880 in any one day unless you can keep doing it. If you do earn $2880 in any one day you are stuck with a minimum required balance of $9600 for the first 3 months of payout requests. So far your largest day is $1392 gain and since your account requires a minimum of $6600 before you can request a payout you are under the maximum day gain that would raise your account minimum. $6600 x .3 = $1980 max one day gain. If your highest gain day becomes $2000 then your balance would need to be $2000 / .30= $6,666.67 before you can request a payout. Hopefully i've shown you enough examples that you can understand the math.

@kbrrjq9450 2 ай бұрын

Please Is there any news about the funded trader?

@zefproxy9753 7 күн бұрын

You should check out Precision Funding, their 90% off with better rules than apex and allow up to 25 Funded PA’s!

@stevenguarnieri9300 2 ай бұрын

Yea but today was a perfect example...a trend day. So got long 2 contract NQ and total profit was 10k ...so if I only made on avg. 2k what happens to that beautiful trade we all dream of. ??? Do they actually expect you to cut it short?

@amoraldetalle692 2 ай бұрын

If you used the same size and strategy, they should pay you based on what I understand of how that rule works.

@stevenguarnieri9300 2 ай бұрын

@@amoraldetalle692Cool, I would really hope so. I've heard them say they are for the trader as they started as traders and still are. They def shouldn't penalize you for catching a great entry and having the trade trend.

@neverevenheardofit 2 ай бұрын

Yes, they expect you to cut it short. You will likely be denied if it's over 30%

@wellnesspathforme6236 Ай бұрын

Sell and re-enter. Make it two trades.

@JdogShawn 2 күн бұрын

falls off after three months

@burny90 2 ай бұрын

Wait, you guys make money?😮

@Jacobgribbin Ай бұрын

I made 7,000$ in one day, then flipped micros, now payout denied. How do I solve this? Do I have to trade up to 24,000$ in profit now?

@SosaTheProducer Ай бұрын

cant do that. idk the calculations tho. gotta consistency. youll just be flagged as sus. with myfundedfutueres u can do that tho

@shemarspencer6093 22 күн бұрын

When payout is denied do you lose the account? Or you have to trade 10 more days adhering to the consistency rule to get payout?

@aslanquliyev9143 21 күн бұрын

I gott the same problem with 50.000 account made 1,700 in 1 day and the rest of the days i did smal trades and i didnt gett payout they calling me gambler lol

@bryonseilerXauBry0716 2 ай бұрын

That's so doable. I don't see the issue.

@tmoneygoldd5662 Ай бұрын

So if u stay consistent on a 50k account and lets say by ur 3month ur account is at 90k how much can u take out on the 4month..? And i mean making 1k to 1.5k every day.

@bluewave2024 Ай бұрын

That’s when they hit you with the “your style doesn’t align with our program” rule and they ban you.

@zefproxy9753 7 күн бұрын

You should check out Precision Funding, their 90% off with better rules than apex and allow up to 25 Funded PA’s!

@zefproxy9753 7 күн бұрын

@@bluewave2024 You should check out Precision Funding, their 90% off with better rules than apex and allow up to 25 Funded PA’s!

@10TomMead 2 ай бұрын

Can someone explain how to work this out please?

@SB-by2iv 22 күн бұрын

In your first 3 months of trading with a funded account take your highest gain day and divide by .30. You can't request a payout until your account reaches that amount. So if your biggest day is $1500 then you are stuck with not being able to request a payout until your account reaches 1500/.3= $4500 for the first 3 payout months.

@SB-by2iv 22 күн бұрын

If you reach $4500 and pull out $500 your next payout request still requires $4500 minimum balance in the first 3 months.

@justincortez6868 9 күн бұрын

@@SB-by2iv thats not how that works. By the 10th day which if your account is at 10k at the time, which im using 10days cause thats how long trading is required from APEX before a payout. And you want to request at least 6k of that leaving 4k in your account for some cushion. 6k times 30 percent is 1800. Your biggest day CAN NOT be more than 1800. If your biggest day is below 1800 then you are good.

@mfgmfg1248 2 ай бұрын

pex is simply confusing their traders with 30 percent rule

@jeffstrong4580 Ай бұрын

Consistent profit for trades? If you want consistent pay then get a job. It's rule is for these prop firm and they use these pumper for marketing. FINRA should investigate this.

@Buying-dips 2 ай бұрын

So if you average 1k per day and on a big news day you make 5k, it doesn't count!?

@BRAS64076 2 ай бұрын

@YouAREyoubeYou 2 ай бұрын

As long as you would have used the same number of contracts

@neverevenheardofit 2 ай бұрын

You won't qualify. They will tell you to keep trading until the next payout window.

@SB-by2iv 22 күн бұрын

it counts but you just raised your minimum required balance for a payout request to $16,666,67 for 3 months of payouts.( 5000 / .30)

@tb2957 2 ай бұрын

Ive been denied several time with shitty explanations

@bluewave2024 Ай бұрын

Why?

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@mihkelkm3068 2 күн бұрын

just another ponzi

@rashadheyward 2 ай бұрын

Idk why people don’t get it. The FAQ n video on their website explains this very well. Thanks Patrick! 🫶🏽

@arnoldsujankatru1734 2 ай бұрын

Lol yeah.

@thabangsebopetsa6813 2 ай бұрын

😥😥 still dnt get it.. care to explain further? Let's say i have a 50k acc n passed my evaluation, how much must u make daily for 10days to stay under the 30% consistency rule?

@BRAS64076 2 ай бұрын

@@thabangsebopetsa6813 No single trading day can account for more than 30% of account balance. So $3,000 day with a $10,000 account balance is 30%...... $3 day with a $10 account balance is still 30%....... you can make as much as you want, but if you have a single day that is more than 30% of account balance you will have to explain why and prove you did same size and strategy as you normally do and should still get payout if you cant you have to keep trading until account balance is up enough that the big day isnt 30% of balance anymore...... 50k account needs to make 2600 to get a payout... 2600 / 10 days = $260 a day..... or max trade size if only going to make 2600 minimum is 2600x0.30 = $780 max daily gain then the rest of the 9 days you need to make $1820 ($2600 - $780=$1820) so that means $1820 / 9days = $202 a day average..... but if you just trade consistantly (the same way every trade) you really shouldnt have an issue with the 30% rule because even if you break the 30% rule you can just prove that you traded like every other day and your payout will still get approved.

@YouAREyoubeYou 2 ай бұрын

Whatever you typically make will suffice. If you typically use 3 contracts and make 500-600 per day stay there. Don’t then switch to 10 contracts and make 10k then argue about it. The rules are there-stay within the confines of the rules-period. Then there’s no argument.

@YouAREyoubeYou 2 ай бұрын

What size account do you have? If it’s a 50k, you may want to stir clear of using 6 contracts. Essentially that would be over leveraging. On that 50k your buffer is $3k you can blow that account quickly. 50k should be less than or equal to 5 contracts-2-3 are ideal. Not telling you what to do it’s simply a suggestion. I make anywhere from 500-1300 in a trade on A+ supply and demand setup