Apollo 16 House Rock

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Lunchpacked180

Lunchpacked180

10 жыл бұрын

First 8:42 of the House Rock EVA on Apollo 16
Source: www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/a16.h...
At the very start, notice how Houston gets picked up by a helmet mike, showing the time delay.
Also notice they mention how hard it is to judge distances, this is better explained in the ALSJ journal text
ALSJ Journal Transcript excerpt:
167:36:03 England: We think that sounds like a great plan.
[Fendell pulls back on the zoom and pans right.]
167:36:07 Duke: Didn't need...(Stops to listen)
167:36:10 Young: Look at the size of that biggie (meaning House Rock)!
[Charlie crosses the TV field-of-view from right to left, headed for the Rover.]
167:36:11 Young: It is a biggie, isn't it. It may be further away than we think because...
167:36:17 Duke: No, it's not very far. It was just right beyond you (when he was sampling north of the Rover after 166:56:58).
167:36:19 Young: Theoretically, huh?
167:36:20 Duke: Yeah.
167:36:21 Young: Like everything else around here, a couple of weeks later (you still aren't there)...
[John is saying that things are always farther away than they seem and that trips take longer than he expects. Because there is no atmospheric haze to give an impression of distance, it is very difficult to judge the size and distance of distant objects.]
[In 1835, Charles Darwin had a similar problem judging distances while traveling in the Andes east of Santiago, Chile, in March 1835: "Travelers having observed the difficulty of judging heights and distances amidst lofty mountains, have generally attributed it to the absence of objects of comparison. It appears to me, that it is fully as much owing to the transparency of the air confounding objects at different distances, and likewise partly to the novelty of an unusual degree of fatigue arising from a little exertion,â€"habit being thus opposed to the evidence of the senses. I am sure that this extreme clearness of the air gives a peculiar character to the landscape, all objects appearing to be brought nearly into one plane, as in a drawing or panorama. The transparency is, I presume, owing to the equable and high state of atmospheric dryness." - from The Voyage of the Beagle, p 347.]
[Fendell stops the pan to give the Backroom another look into North Ray while he waits for John and Charlie to leave the Rover.]
[House Rock can be seen at CZ.2/80.6 in the "Descartes EVA-III 3 of 3" map in the Lunar Surface Procedures volume. As indicated in Figure 6-65 in the Preliminary Science Report, House Rock is about 12 meters tall, 16 by 20 meters across, and is about 220 meters from the Rover. At 167:17:38, John only slightly underestimated the distance of House Rock from the Rover as being 150 meters.]

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@unclesloppy8518
@unclesloppy8518 2 жыл бұрын
6:00 this is one of my favorite moments in any of the moon landings. the genuine astonishment in his voice and the way he says it is oddly hilarious to me.
@rwboa22
@rwboa22 2 жыл бұрын
Especially when the exclamation has that distinctive South Carolina drawl.
@vb8428
@vb8428 2 жыл бұрын
I came to look for it online after watching the movie, For all Mankind
@Astrobrant2
@Astrobrant2 10 жыл бұрын
This is a very nice quality video. Thanks for posting it. I think this would look even cooler if the zoom beginning at 0:52 could be negated. Even though the size comparison of House Rock to the astronauts is still impressive, the magnification does foreshorten the field and somewhat reduce our perception of the distance they traveled.
@MOPCLinguistica
@MOPCLinguistica 5 жыл бұрын
It's a thing if beauty thanks for posting. I can 't wait till humanity returns to the moon, hopefully in the next decade.
@MrVikingsandra
@MrVikingsandra 3 жыл бұрын
NASA us saying 2024...I'm really hoping!
@1off39
@1off39 11 ай бұрын
Dummy
@erikbakker1531
@erikbakker1531 4 жыл бұрын
Exploration at its finest.
@LukeMM95
@LukeMM95 11 ай бұрын
*fakest
@LisaAnn777
@LisaAnn777 11 ай бұрын
​@@LukeMM95people like you are so sad. The same kind of people who didn't want to explore the oceans and claimed it was impossible. Good thing humanity moves forward without people like you, and it will continue to do so. So get left behind if you want it's up to you.
@squish2108
@squish2108 11 ай бұрын
​@@LukeMM95It's 2023 and you still believe that the moon landing was fake
@X-Gen-001
@X-Gen-001 11 ай бұрын
Just think, everything in the sunlight there is over the boiling point of water. These guys were so badass. If I was there I'm sure I'd be ecstatic about where I was standing on the freakin' moon, but there'd also be some amount of frayed nerves I don't mind saying lol. Because I'd be aware that any one of a thousand things could go wrong and I'd be dead. But I'd still do it without hesitation.
@bargeman100
@bargeman100 11 ай бұрын
Did you ever think it might be fake? How did all these guys come back alive? Maybe because they never went.
@apolloskyfacer5842
@apolloskyfacer5842 11 ай бұрын
@@bargeman100 Have you given a thought to the very real possibility that you're a totally ignorant dim wit. ?
@thisguysgaming7246
@thisguysgaming7246 11 ай бұрын
@@bargeman100you’re a Brain dead idiot if you think they faked the moon landing. Have you not seen the literally videos spanning 70years of nasa history. Millions of patents that show how the rockets work. It’s impossible that it was faked.
@TheKaiser-pf8fr
@TheKaiser-pf8fr 11 ай бұрын
or maybe because you don't know anything about it@@bargeman100
@squish2108
@squish2108 11 ай бұрын
​@@bargeman100Nerd
@thomaslewis7883
@thomaslewis7883 4 жыл бұрын
I might be wrong, but I don't recall any good still images of the astronauts standing next to house rock. What's also interesting is their comments at the very beginning of the video. They talk about how far away house rock is and how it's likely a lot farther away then it looks. [ The clarity of the vacuum is confusing them ]. Proof their not in Kansas anymore.
@brendanrendell9751
@brendanrendell9751 4 жыл бұрын
Never even thought about how clear it must look on the Moon. It's not an entire vacuum though is it? There's a tiny bit of atmosphere.
@Godscountry2732
@Godscountry2732 4 жыл бұрын
@@brendanrendell9751 yes it has a few gases.www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LADEE/news/lunar-atmosphere.html
@narajuna
@narajuna 2 жыл бұрын
Breaking in your own CO2 will do that too. note: Kansas do have drugs
@thomaslewis7883
@thomaslewis7883 2 жыл бұрын
@@narajuna With no atmosphere on the Moon ,objects appear closer.The Portable life support system or PLSS used lithium hydroxide to remove the carbon dioxide from the breathing air, and circulated water in an open loop through a liquid-cooled garment, expelling the water into space, where it turned to ice crystals. Some of the water was also used to remove excess heat from the astronaut's breathing air, and collected for dumping into the spacecraft's wastewater tank after an EVA.
@thomaslewis7883
@thomaslewis7883 2 жыл бұрын
@@narajunaLOL Ignorance hasn't revealed any Moon hoaxes.Did you examine the India space agency images of Apollo 11 and 12 landing sites at the link I sent you.?.?China hopefully will release there images soon.They publicly acknowledged making over flights of the Apollo landing sites and seeing signs of human activity. ?
@orlandinabellini395
@orlandinabellini395 2 жыл бұрын
Deve essere fantastico ballare quasi senza peso....mi colpisce molto nell'immagine del cratere la mancanza della penombra nella distesa di sassi
@narajuna
@narajuna 2 жыл бұрын
Ah dam look for cool hop over hundreds of meters, nothing like it.
@raghuveer3878
@raghuveer3878 Жыл бұрын
As they walk the shadow is falling backwards 0:50. From where the light is coming?
@Lunchpacked180
@Lunchpacked180 Жыл бұрын
The sun
@nicoberna5463
@nicoberna5463 Жыл бұрын
That's because of the shape of the ground, which is slightly sloping. Sorry for my english, hope you can understamd what I mean.
@jgunther3398
@jgunther3398 11 ай бұрын
the angle of shadows is determined both by the light source and the angles formed by the surface when it's compressed into a 2-d photo
@fromnorway643
@fromnorway643 11 ай бұрын
@@nicoberna5463 Your comment makes far more sense than those from all the moon landing deniers! 😊
@LisaAnn777
@LisaAnn777 11 ай бұрын
It's coming from the sun. The apparent movement of the shadow is from the ground itself being uneven and changes where the shadow is being cast.
@PifflePrattle
@PifflePrattle 11 ай бұрын
Always remember my dad and I being amazed by this when watching it live. Question to my generational cohort - how did you enjoy your tax cuts after cancelling 18-20? Or the benefit to the poor that came from the redirection of Apollo money? Knowing how thick many people are I should add that there might be just a little sarcasm in this comment. Because something else I've remembered all these years is people groaning very soon after 11 about the pointlessness of making repeated journeys and groaning about the cost and informing us the money could be used to help the poor. I'm all for helping the poor but knew that was a crop when I first heard it. And I was a fresh faced teenager then. Hopefully the Chinese will put the first woman on the moon before too long. Okay boomer!
@trevorhilborn8091
@trevorhilborn8091 10 жыл бұрын
I am the first viewer and commenter!
@Lunchpacked180
@Lunchpacked180 10 жыл бұрын
hooray! Kuni, why don't you reveal what he's won: /watch?v=GB7mHxdHlRY
@trevorhilborn8091
@trevorhilborn8091 10 жыл бұрын
Lunchpacked180 Thanxabunch. I've always loved Weird Al.
@CARLOS_GABRIEL
@CARLOS_GABRIEL 10 ай бұрын
​@@Lunchpacked180❤
@Interstellar2123
@Interstellar2123 11 ай бұрын
I dont buy this 🤣😂
@Lunchpacked180
@Lunchpacked180 11 ай бұрын
Don't have to, it's totally free.. But if you're buying from random people on youtube who have "figured out the truth" (you know the ones, the ones f.ex. using low quality jpg copies of photos to show how it has jpg artifacting that *could* look like it was fake, but is 100% absent from the real high quality film scan of the photo) you're getting a bad deal...
@neilarmstrongsson795
@neilarmstrongsson795 10 ай бұрын
An american myth that's all, but an important one I will add.
@neilarmstrongsson795
@neilarmstrongsson795 10 ай бұрын
Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
@abacus749
@abacus749 Жыл бұрын
At 8.11mins. Who moved the camera to the left?
@Lunchpacked180
@Lunchpacked180 Жыл бұрын
You mean who moved the remotely controlled (from earth) camera mounted on the rover to the left? Well i have provided the timecodes and sources, if you follow them you can find out who had that shift of operating the camera If you're really interested in finding out if it's fake or not, or just more about the program, then read the documentation on how things work, or atleast don't blindly accept other people's explanation just because you feel it should fit.. alsj is a nice place to start of as it's pretty media heavy and everything is sorted by standarized numbers and timecodes The rover, camera and its remote control for instance is vastly documented by nasa.. Here is a quick little summary of the video cameras they used www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ApolloTV-Acrobat5.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiXr5uonf3-AhUJvosKHWHHAHkQFnoECDYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1P9-AkhFvDfmL55Z_00btK Also, what about the movement at the start? Or the zooming in? You didn't notice the movement until the very end?
@robertoroberto9798
@robertoroberto9798 Жыл бұрын
Remote controlled from Houston. Same way how they recorded the LM detach and fly off to rendezvous with the CSM on Apollo 17.
@YDDES
@YDDES 11 ай бұрын
Abacus749. I suggest You start looking at other videos than just the conspiracy ones. You may learn a thing, or two…
@Redstagwsmnp
@Redstagwsmnp 11 ай бұрын
Camera man 3 studio backup
@bargeman100
@bargeman100 11 ай бұрын
Remote controlled from Houston yeah that's the ticket. These clowns have answers for everything.
@Er.LuckRathore003
@Er.LuckRathore003 11 ай бұрын
Oscar winning mistri 😂😂😂
@Lunchpacked180
@Lunchpacked180 11 ай бұрын
Mistri? 🤔
@Uddhav_Uddin
@Uddhav_Uddin 11 ай бұрын
​@@Lunchpacked180Mason 😂
@faps5021
@faps5021 10 ай бұрын
bags flur like air on the moon
@Lunchpacked180
@Lunchpacked180 10 ай бұрын
"Flur"?
@amanthatthinks
@amanthatthinks 10 ай бұрын
Wire man is the most important man in moon journey 😂
@TheWokeFlatEarthTruth
@TheWokeFlatEarthTruth 10 ай бұрын
Can you please explain your comment?
@thewildcellist
@thewildcellist 10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the op is referring to the Apollo hoax "theory" that astronauts on the Moon were suspended by "wires" to simulate 1/6 gravity. Most hoaxers are post 'n' ghost, and rarely respond to any questions. The reason for that is because they've got nothing.
@juangardel8078
@juangardel8078 9 жыл бұрын
JAJAJA QUIEN MUEVE LA CAMARA?? UN CAMAROGRÁFO. QUE FARSA
@Lunchpacked180
@Lunchpacked180 9 жыл бұрын
the farce here is your utter ignorance.. remotely controlled tv camera on the rover, look it up.
@Lunchpacked180
@Lunchpacked180 9 жыл бұрын
Paddy W Wrote: "The camera was operated by Ed Fendell at Houston control. Ed Fendell (Head of NASA Communications Systems Section) also filmed the Apollo 11 Lunar Module take off 'from the Moon.' " well, yeah, i do correct factual errors, no one filmed Apollo 11's lift off from the moon, (fun fact, The Apollo 11 lunar Lift off was filmed inside the Ascent module of the LM). Fendell Filmed the lunar lift offs of Apollo 15, 16 & 17 with the remote controlled camera mounted on the rover.. now if you had done proper research and really knew the subject, you would know this. it is really easy to find out.. especially considering having done all that research on Fendell.. if you can't get simple facts straight, how can we trust anything you say after?
@Lunchpacked180
@Lunchpacked180 9 жыл бұрын
Paddy W i'm not being smug, just pointing it out.. so you thought "Apollo 11? - that doesn't sound right.", but STILL didn't bother to check and/or research it and just trusted your gut feeling anyway, right? again, not a confidence builder.. talk is cheap anyway, i could claim you're a nursing home killer, killing old grandmas in their sleep, and just go "Prove me wrong!" if you have extraordinary claims, you have to have extraordinary evidence! it is not up to others to prove you wrong, it is up to you to prove what you claim. going "just google search for xxxxx" is'nt proof, sayng things are so isn't proof. having several continuous video footage filmed in a vacuum (if its a chamber as hoaxers claim, it's MANY times bigger then the current biggest one) is proof, having physical unfakeable objects, like rocks is proof.. if you have any proof or evidence for any faking, and not just some conspiracy website/forum link, youtube or "known" biased sites (like aulis and clavius), then by all means present it. otherwise its just empty talk and opinions.
@Lunchpacked180
@Lunchpacked180 9 жыл бұрын
Paddy W firstly, you come on my video claiming to hear snooker ball sounds proving it was a hoax, refuse to answer any questions about it and instead write a 2 page text about how its the illuminati or something.. You write a pretty big typo for someone claiming to produce evidence or truth.. you even admitted you thought it sounded wrong, but YOU decided to write it anyway, not me.. YOU did.. Apollo 11 is hardly a typo, sure, you my want to present it as such to prevent ridicule, but those are the facts.. typo or no, you admitted to noticing it BEFORE posting the comment but decided to do nothing about it, not check i it was correct or anything, just copy paste and "don't bother about any facts checking, EVEN if i think it sounds wrong..." The holy bible is hardly evidenc, it may be for you or religious people, but it isn't for me, so anything from the bible will be automatically dismissed. (just like you would dismiss the quran) don't believe me? just pray to the flying spaghetti monster who lives in a caravan in orbit around saturn who was boiled for your sins.. see how easy it is? so you admit you have absolutely no evidence to support a hoax, yet still "provide clues to help disprove seemingly 'solid evidence' that the landigs were real" how can you prove something you just admitted you cannot prove? and no, you can't use the bible to say apollo was hoaxed. you could just as well use Lord of the Rings instead.. and no, there is no possibility of the Lunar rocks being meteorites, they have absolutely no signs of reentry, they are covered with zap pits (micro meteorite craters inside micro meteorite craters inside micro meteorite craters etc..) or the entire geological field would be incompetent as they in over 45 years of studying it have NEVER claimed it was faked.. NEVER.. ONLY hoaxers have made that claim, not one of them with ANY geological education. mostly it seems you just copy paste your replies (you even admitted to this) and spread them without really having done any research.. it seems to me that you have found some conspiracy website or video or something, thought "hey, the moon landings was faked" and then proceed to just copy and paste your repliees without any discretion, even whe you admit you thought it sounded wrong, you did nothing to corret it or even find out if it was true, you just pasted it and ignored the error, and then get super defensive when i point it out.. if you TRULY were after the truth, you would do propr research and not just copy paste what you blindly believed.. have you ever questioned your sources? what evidence do they have? are they ust saying what is proof or something? have you done any research apart from googling and reading forums//watching youtube videos? it doesn't seem like it to me.. so the question is, can you provve anything yo claim? answer is "no, you cannot." i do think it's good to be skeptical, but be skeptical of everyone, even the ones going "that f*BLEEP*ng government is doing this and that, just look at my video that i say proves it.. anyone can make a hoax video, and edit nasa footage to your dvantage, but yet NO ONE since it happened have been able to produce a single shred of evidence, managed to keep 400000 workers in total secret, and managed to fool the entire worlds geological society with fake lunar rocks.. to me the hoaxer explanations tends to get so complicated and convoluted that it get's way harder to do the hoax than actually landing.. again talk is cheap. if can't prove your position, then don't share it as if it was fact or you're trying to "teach" us the "truth" (according to you). discuss it on conspiracy forums or similar where its regularly discussed, don't come on videos claiming to debunk the moon landing without any proof and factual errors you noticed seemed wrong but didn't care to actually check if was correct.. it may nt seem like a big deal to you, but having done research on fendell, and noticing something seemed wrong about what you were about to post but still posted it, unchecked anyway says ALOT about your intentions.. it isn't to disprove the hoax per se, it's to either show the lunar landing as a hoax thats part of some bigger govenment conspiracy or you just copy pasting what blew your mind when you read it and blindly believed it as fact (probably because some one told you it was)
@Lunchpacked180
@Lunchpacked180 9 жыл бұрын
Paddy W 1: i adressed the sound, said i don't hear what you describe in your description, and it certainly wasnt without radio static.. you do like do label people it seems, pride has nothing to do with it. 2: again, "you're a killer of old granmas, prove me wrong" it doesn't work like that. YOU made the claim, YOU have to prove it. i haven't made any claims to the authenticity or illuminati or anything, YOU have, without ANY proof, yet you expect me to prove you wrong? learn how the scientific method works.. 3: well, it seems big brother is then mre important than correcting a simple mistake you admit that you KNEW was wrong BEFORE posting it.. stil posted it, didn't correct it.. anyway you try to spin it, you should have corrected it BEFORE posting it when you admit to thinking that it seemed wrong.. 4: i take the side of truth and reason.. if you think me pointing out your factual errors, and your attempts of excusing it (even when you admit to noticing it BEFORE posting) is ridiculing you, then that'syour opinion.. and you're welcome to it. and btw. what WAS the war jesus talked about? 5: well, it is if you'd like to shar what the astrophysisist said? and are you telling me that you have tangible evidence supporting that the meteorites show no signs of atmospheric entry AND has faux zap pits? 6: if you didn't ignore the error, then WHY did you leave it in when you posted it? it's not a likely error to make if you have done research on Fendell.. it's like saying "The rolling stones released abbey road" and then saying "oh, i MEANT to say the beatles, i noticed the error but left it in anyway becasue big brother came on" when someone points it out.. you had plenty of time after watching big brother to correct it, but still didn't.. to me it seems like you got caught in an error but refuse to own up to making it.. 7: grammar nazi now.. sure, that's exactly the same as presenting wrong data as factual.. but hey, whatever floats your boat.. 8: if you don't believe the rocks were fake, then why say it's definately plausible that they were meteorites? as i said, if they were meteorites, they would show signs of atmospheric reentry and no zap pits.. it isn't plausible, at all.. 9: a worker of a car plant would be able to see if the thing he has scholed him/herself was making didn't look right or was faked, point is, NONE of these workers came out with any evidence against apollo, not one who worked on the project said "they faked it because the part i made was just for show" so they would hve to make all the hardware correctly, which means they *could* go to the moon.. then it's much easier to just risk sending 3 guys up there, rather than spend many more millions constructing special huge vacuum sets the size of a small town, getting a filmcrew and personell and actors who can record hours upon hours of flawless acting, getting the lunar dust to move as if it was in 1/6th G etc.. faking the lunar landings es actually harder than actually landing on the moon. (extra: just a note, Bill Kaysing who worked at rocketdyne, a favourite of many hoaxers as he claims to have inside knowledge having worked for a NASA contractor, quit in 1963, BEFORE they started work on the Apollo project.) 10: i'm not questioning that you have done your own research, just on how neutral and scientific it was.. because it seems pretty biased towards the conspiracy scene.. as for the sound, it sounds like something triggered the mike, like i said previously, its hard to say, but it could be a grunt, sneezze or cough or similar quick noise that triggered the mike, after watching it again and checking with ALSJ, i'm thinking it could be the rake that Young is holding and about to pour lunar regolith samples into the bag Duke's holding, and the sound could be the rake bumping into Duke's suit? but again, as i said before, it's impossible to actually tell what it was, most likely it's only a fragment of the actual sound.. as the mikes worked on sound, they might not have triggered soon enough to catch the full sound, which could give the loud "popping" sound you say sounds like snooker balls (but clearly isn't).. i just find it fascinating how some people just disregard all scientific data from one of the most publisized and open projects the world has ever seen, and how it's ONLY "uneducated" people that find the anomalies.. (by uneducated i mean someone who is not an engineer or geologist or similarly schooled expert in the field they claim to have disproven or found errors with or similar...)
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