A liar and a coward.

Someone who obviously never taught their child anything about life.

It wasn’t a violent brawl at that time. It was a few younger men yelling at a man acting a fool. And I think they said they owned a bar and they worked there so were used to calming the drunks down lol.

@@summerb758 It was 6 football players who could have left Miu alone.

Who sends a drunk adult into a group of teens?

Sounds like a day of "family" tubbing to me. Same thing that has in San Marcos, TX.

@@dark_natas_666same in washington lol

@@peahl9872hey! Washington here too, what rivers do you tube on?

That's literally everything today... cookouts, 4th of July gatherings, concerts, sports games. People these days just can't seem to celebrate or get together in groups with getting wasted, loud and obnoxious. The biggest lie ever told is- "society isn't getting worse, you just hear about it more."

@petergriffin383 I agree with most of what you say until the end. Plenty of people have been murdered, just like the young man represented in this trial. I'm 50 and grew up next to a lake in Texas, and I remember this stuff going on as a child. People have been killing people since the dawn of time in horrendous ways.

You sir are a wise father. Unfortunately, the father in this situation was a fool.

Why would a father send his son and not go himself. Better to call police, but by the time they would arrive it would be to late.

true words there. simply not my issue why get involved

In a state of intoxication, it is not wise and smart

Thank you my first thought..Stay out of harms way would have been wiser 🙄

Me too I feel him if is like that

Prosecution is an inept at speaking clear sentences in a legal formed sentence.

​@@candykane4271how's that guilty verdict taste? Sorry you guys can't stab kids cuz they hurt your feelings

TRUTH

Especially when you're harassing, humiliating and assaulting that stranger.

@@unawakeful6931 Exactly

​@@unawakeful6931I'll say it again, grow some skin! Since when do we kill someone over words and a physical altercation?

@@unawakeful6931say it louder for the people in the back

so he should have just let them keep attacking him?

​@jasonvoorhees5640 ...no he should've continued to walk away. Be well and be at peace.

​@@jasonvoorhees5640 what about the girl he literally stabbed in the back for no reason?

They’re not kids! They’re 20 fucking years old!! 🙄

They got many other’s stabbed and hurt as well. Actually those screaming help, he’s a pedo, rapist etc.. Should be charged as well. They could have easily went around him. The fool with the camera admitted Mui said he was looking for his snorkel

It creates aggressive behavior.

Whiskey......the fun time drug!

How much did the man have to drink?

Alcohol is the worst. Period.

@@flenzy they mentioned his BAC during testimony. He admitted he was drunk.

If the old drunk guy had just ignored the kids going by on inner tubes, instead of charging out to the middle of the river...

@@melsafken764 have you not seen the full video?? he gets jumped by 13 people. they all take turns sucker punching him whilst he is already knocked down. you should watch the whole attack video. its going to get him acquitted

THIS PEDO CAME BACK AT THISE KIDS, TO KNIFE THEM FOR CALLING OUT HIM BEING A PEDO TRYING TO HARM FEMALE CHILDREN! HE MEANT TO UN-ALIVE EVERY ONECOF THISE KIDS! IF HE IS NOT GIVEN THE UN-ALIVE PENALTY, HOPEFULLY THE INMATES WILL SEE JUDTICE DONE,

​@@melsafken764 If maybe kids were taught how to respect their elders then maybe none of this would have happened 🫣

MAybe the so called adult , male defendent should learn to walk away instead of walk up to peopl who offend him verbally and get physical and violent like a coward and a psycho

Not sure if deadly force was necessary from 14:40 on when he then stabbed 3 people killing one of them, never getting more than pushed off balance, and that push was after he already stabbed 2 people, meaning the push was in self-defense, which cost the young person his life.

@@knpstrr it's a bad situation all over.

​@@knpstrrHe was fearing for the rest of lambs, sheesh common sense!!

@@user-up7ip4br3d Agreed, terrible how that all played out. Can't see him not getting convicted of the lesser charges though, it was reckless at that point (in my opinion of course)

He has zero case, he pulled a knife and attacked when not only did he have a clear path to leave, he was being asked to.

Absolutely true. No matter outcome of trial. Lessons should be taken from.this.

Including the Prosecutor...

😂​@@speccyiiii7677

What did the dead guy learn?

@@jameshw9751 Ask him.

Because they didn't know he was slashing people. You can't hear a knife.

​@@melsafken764But you can sure hear them taunting him and making up lies about him, don't you

Are you joking? Who cares if a bun chi of dumb kids call you a name you’re on a river, float on by. He obviously knew he was going to stab them, why would he start going after a group of drunk guys, he definitely would have lost that fight if he didn’t have a knife. I don’t know how someone didn’t think to use a river rock to help de escalate the situation.

In the USA that does not merit death!! There's consequences for killing here !

@@styphlynne8253 Yes, and there are consequences for hitting someone.

Do you think Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer?

No

Entitled kids.

​@@briancosgrove3261😂😂 dude ran out 2 -3 times and the pedophile still chased him despite saying he'll shoot. Never take a skateboard to a gun fight, you'll lose

​@@briancosgrove3261😂😂 dude ran out 2 -3 times and the morons still chased him despite saying he'll shoot. Never take a skateboard to a gun fight, you'll lose

Ptsd causes memory loss

they were drunk and high and probably also dehydrated on that river. Also, weed is horrible because it makes you laugh at stupid stuff, part of why they thought the stupid taunting was so funny was because the idiot teenagers were on THC.

THC, not PTSD.@@kimborowski4187

@@kimborowski4187so does drug and alcohol abuse.

@@cattnipp!!!!!! At first I was like it’s convenient how they all don’t remember certain parts and those parts show them as the aggressors. But think the more I watch I realize, they all were drunk as hell. All saying they had one drink, one or two shots, let’s be realistic. It was a party out there, everyone’s going tubing and hanging out, everyone’s DRUNK and basking in the sun which makes them drunker faster. Then throw in the weed that some people don’t remember smoking and others had just a few puffs or “a little bit”. It’s sad all around but the shit memory makes a lot of sense. They probably didn’t even understand what was happening, what they were inciting, until after when they were coming off their high and things started clicking.

Or don’t physically assault people…

He was ending the recording dimwit. So, he turned it around to press the right button. I know you still love your landline but try to keep up. Shameful! 🙄

They were all wasted kids. Pathetic that some of them were in their 20’s, seemingly with no common sense. All led by good old dad who kept his rear end, safely wedged in his inter tube. Pathetic excuse for a father.

@@annafrancisdimka9403 IQ not detected. Based on your explanation, the screen with the button would be facing away from the user while the user is filming and unable to see what is being recorded. Even if Dr. Seuss designed the phone the punk recording is using, taking the time to record an outro to his sure-to-go-viral snuff film instead of rushing to help his supposed "friend" who is currently "finding out" the consequences of his befriending of people who "fuck around" makes him a piece of shit (imho) in addition to an insufferably loud overly hostile fkwit. A mistake i suspect you likely make frequently as the *smart*phone you use to make inane combinations of words and emojis (see above), take selfies, and use to google "what is a Ukraine" has more memory, processing power, and more instances of being described as "smart" than you will have ever have. Congratulations if you made it here without the assistance of a dictionary and a therapist.

Drunk people often lose inhibitions so camera recordist is showing his true nature. He sees dollar signs capturing violence for online viral video fame and wants viewers to know who he is.

Although I’m thankful this was on video, the guy with the phone was obnoxious from the start. He was also in no hurry to help Issac.

He's great! He tells the jury "What lawyers say is not to be considered facts...only listen to the witnesses". I've never heard a judge make that point so clearly! His "SPEAK UP" sign.. 🔥🔥🔥

Play stupid games win stupid prizes

I would strongly disagree. The judge even mentions at one point that he’s “totally lost” and has not kept up with that particular line of questioning. Sorry, that’s not considered “sharp” and/or “attentive” 🙄

He sucks - He’s exposed himself to be totally biased in favor of the prosecution.

@anti-ethniccleansing465 How so? If it seems like he over rules the defense a lot on cross it's not because of bias, it's because during cross there's more leeway given during as far leading, and other formalities, the defense is well aware of this rule so the common strategy is to object as much as possible without looking bad to the jury, they're also aware many of their objections will be overruled during this time, but the strategy is to do it anyway...but again, not in a way not that will put off the jury. I can tell this judge understands the gravity of this case and is "by the book"

It seems like Tony and AC are boyfriends, which is really unusual for a gay couple to be so aggressive.

@@user-tr8fs7lm8ryou know what they say about those who assume

⁠@@user-tr8fs7lm8r Who’s AC, if not Anthony Carlson (which IS Tony; Tony is short for Anthony)? Dante is Tony’s little brother. We literally saw Tony say that in this video clip near the end here, in his interview with the police. Did you mean to write AJ Martin?

They should be charged with felony murder or involuntary manslaughter or something

​@taramcgavan7654 that's not what I saw in the footage. I saw him go towards them, do something at which point the defendant did in fact walk away. The commotion the teens started brought other ne'er do-wells to "help". At that point they continued to harrass tuant and then attack the man.

Agreed. But he tried to lie to the police and evade

​@taramcgavan7654 why was he going towards them?

@timturner7545 in the beginning? He was actively searching for *goggles* (see the testimony from the camera man, they show the first video he took just before this one, which shows how all this started). The camera man then says "YOURE LOOKING AT LITTLE GIRLS?! WHAT?!" While laughing. Everyone aged 36 and younger know full well what that kid was doing- I'm pretty sure many of us engaged in that behavior (we used to call it trolling in my day) when we would intentionally repeat an inflammatory remark as if that's what we heard- this is to get a rise out of someone or to mildly make them uncomfortable or embarrassed. The behavior isn't intended to be harmful- but it is. As an adult now I recognize that.

​@@Guiu-fo6tvgood call. His comment provoked the crowds behavior and furthered the us-them mentality. Then alpha male pack behavior took over and dude felt threatened. Both sides could have prevented this. Alcohol wins again.

Absolutely. You can’t just be calling someone a pedo cause you feel like stirring the pot for your drunken amusement. Intent matters and the young man with the dreads was intent on causing drama, not in being reasonable. In his testimony he said they could have kept floating down river but they chose to go over and keep escalating (and filming) the situation

​@taramcgavan7654he nelieved he was fighting more than 5 people

@taramcgavan7654 eh, watch the videos. A bunch of drunks attacked him and were cackling gleefully about it. They phucked around and found out

@@chantallennox1201 exactly! It was for their amusement, thinking they could trifle with strangers… until they “found out.”

The older guy had all the time in the world to walk away. I don’t care what anyone says to you, you don’t have the right to physically assault people. He started the physical altercation by hitting the woman. Teenagers are dumb but this man was old enough to not engage in this altercation. Someone had already broke up the physical altercation before he decided to start stabbing people. I’m all for self defense but in now way did it appear to be a life or death situation for the old guy. He was clearly impaired (as were almost all of them) and was not thinking correctly. There’s also consequences for his actions and he deserves to go to jail.

lol

The defense is who keeps getting yelled at by the judge 🤡

Prosecutor pathetically collaborating everyone’s lies by coaching them.

@@Cwgrlup So you support the man who did the stabbing after he was away and in no harm? Oh ok🙄🙄

agree !!!!!!

Exactly…… they were all taunting the man and then pushed him!!! They are as much responsible

No, it seems to me that EVERYONE was drinking that day on that river. The only one that killed was the 54 yr old man Nicolae described by his lawyering in the opening comments as intelligent and peaceful. They taunted but he turned it deadly and violently.

​@@beautybliss7127No, they were adults. Not kids, not minors, 6-9 of them try to attack a man and he had to defend himself and had every right to do so. From 6-9 other younger stronger adults. They started it. Someone got killed over it. It wasn't the attackers or the man who defended himself that was killed. It should have never happened. Drinking Adults taunting and bully another single adult. It's definitely a shame and a loss of life but none of the ones that started it or even remorseful. They just want to say it was the older man's fault. 6-9 people coming as a single person is an attack, it's a gang beating. My opinions and thoughts only.

​@@sweettea1600he pulled out the knife before they ever touched him. He stabbed a girl in the back and the guy who was breaking it up.

@@sweettea1600 They taunted him, he started to walk away, turned and came back because his feelings got hurt. He then hit or attempt to hit one of girls so someone pushed him in the water. The water was less than knee deep so no danger of drowning, the slap was equal to wet noodles across his cheek, his pride got bruised so he escalated the situation and turned it deadly. The teens were not some kind of street gangsters that he felt threatened. They didn’t have weapons, they did not threaten him, they merely were drunk and yes annoying but hardly dangerous. The guy is unhinged, guilty at least of manslaughter and attempted murder.

His kids went to help not hit anyone

​@@RichardZabielski-ql9ssBS.

​@@RichardZabielski-ql9ssBS.

he never said the kids were the problem. He just said he had issues with drunk ppl on other rivers.

Exactly

100% 🙌🏼

@@Dsmommmy well too bad the jury didn't think so. Guilty.

52 is not old.

@@charleyjaxx2493 too old to fight 6 football players

The video says that the guy ran up to them in the first place and wanted to stab clearly

@@Nickh4929At what minute in the video? Better rewatch in slow mo.

Agreed, I started watching yesterday and went straight to my 20 year old girls and told them to never get in on a bunch of people going after a person. That's mob mentality, and they could end up dead or in a courtroom testifying about a death.

👏

Exactly

dont get too cocky

have we all forgot kids have made mistakes since the start of time thats wat kids do they make mistakes learn from them and eventually grow out of it. people like u who r defending that man r all as weak as each other

Have you seen him? He actually testifies and isn’t ashamed at all. It’s unbelievable what the Carlsen group thinks is normal behavior.

@rockstarofredondo he actually said he didn't allow to much alcohol as he didn't want drunk people at his birthday. His 2 sons were 10 times over the limit and pissed

@@bambiber4722I know. It was ridiculous. He contradicted himself multiple times like the rest of these “victim” witnesses.

they are victims...😊

​@@bambiber4722 he wasn't even twice the legal limit. Where are you coming up with 10 times? He was .119 and legal limit is .08. Nobody could get to 10 times the legal limit they would be dead way before that.

Didn’t watch Amber Heards lawyers then huh… 😂

@@NickTheSheep1379True, but Elaine had been a lawyer 30+ years. At least this guy is young.

@@smith899 right which makes Elaine worse. This dude is another bumbler. Honestly none of them are all that inspiring.

One of the slowest

No wonder trials take so long with all this under prepared bull shite. And the wait lists for trials just get longer, justice ⚖ is not being well served in a timely manner

It doesn't matter, it should not have ended with death!

@@themythhunter9764u right , don’t attack and slap people and you won’t get killed

​@@jugz9130don't you get it? it doesn't matter! you should let people hurt you as long as nobody dies!

When we were that age , there’s no way we would have accused an older man of peeping underwater and out our hands on the guy. We grew up knowing and older guy might get ya. He shouldn’t have tried to evade the police. The old guy should have made the 911 call. Bad all around

@@jugz9130 He was the first one to attack people. He actually walked into the water over words instead of being a grown freaking adult and walking away

You weren’t there. You can’t say that

There is a video that says it all.

​@jacquelinerobin7732 all these underaged young adults admitted to being drunk. We don't have to be there to know that alcohol was a factor here!

Why, this should've never happened ! Grow some skin....are we all this weak that we can't handle name calling and a physical altercation without killing somebody? Evidently none of you have fought before?

think a solid lesson out of this is drink responsibly, dont just keep going until you're smashed, way too many people do this, just drink like a normal human being and stop when you feel medium effects. it's really not hard

WHY isn’t the defense playing and replaying that evil wolf-pack laughing from the video????? That speaks volumes.

@@differenttakethanmost it's not a wolf pack! Omg have you never been around teenagers? The point is that all the name calling in the world does not justify stabbing all those people!

​@themythhunter9764 he didn't chase anyone, so they were all in his space. I think if they weren't so busy jeering they would have heard their friends start being horrified.

😂😂😂😂

It’s amazing how many people think insults are physical attacks. 😂

@@modernisto cope 😜🔪

​@@modernistoyou didnt see him get pushed into the water and struck?

@@mbrum3230 yeah, after he punched the girl in retaliation for insults.

No phone reception there.

@@rockstarofredondohe lied about having a knife

Maybe he was traumatized duh

Go ahead and call the police when you're in the middle of being beaten and pushed underwater and swarmed by like 15 drunks

6 times. When you're found. 🙂

they all were high and drunk af. they smoked weed and had BAC of around 0.2

@@KnockOut101incand they were all underage too. Little punks.

@@Frenchick Nope. They ranged from 17-24/25.

@@anti-ethniccleansing465 I’m talking about the first group of teenage boys who started this whole thing.

Yes they are the ones that should be on trial

Tony here, as the video confirms, was breaking it up and Mui even stabbed him after aggressively going at a girl and stabbing her in the side.

Defense is trying to pretend everyone there was surrounding Mui, as a group, when in reality nobody surrounded him and at no point was any of the physical contact (even pushes) at the level of serious bodily harm.

@@alanboody7004Tony - do you guys take any accountability for escalating the situation?

@@l-train7876 well, I wasn't there so I'm not sure why I should take any accountability for anything. However, based upon the video, it's clear Tony was trying to de-escalate the situation. He wasn't attacking Miu. He was getting between people and yelling at people to back off. What I did see is Miu calmly take out the knife, saying nothing, and calmly opened it. I do see the part where it looks like the girl that got hit by Miu was stumbling back, and I have heard from multiple witnesses he hit her before it escalated to shoving. I have yet to see any action taken that could be viewed as attempts at serious bodily injury to Miu.

@@alanboody7004 oh sorry I thought you were saying that you were Tony!

thats tubing tho lol😂

Basically, alcohol and any party or gathering never ends well. Someone gets hurt in some way, or an accident, or they hit someone while driving drunk on the way home. Thank God my family didn’t drink alcohol. Also, we were on the lake all of the time and my dad wouldn’t let us in a boat unless we had a life jacket.

Alcohol and knives are an even bigger no no !!!!

Alcohol is poison. That's a fact. Noone ever regrets NOT drinking.

OK Karen

For what? Putting a hand on Nic's back?

Shut up

Amen to that 🙏

Teach you're kids to leave when they're friends start acting like idiots and attacking ppl.

Also teach your kids never to go on a murderous stabbing spree.

​@@jameshw9751if it's 1 to 12 or 13 what can you say 😅 put yourself in that 1 guy shoes. What would you do. Fight or flight if they won't leave you alone. When people are with a big group of friends their heads gets bigger.

@@jameshw9751There is such a thing called self defense. Mr Mui did just have a heart attack and Triple bypass surgery 6 weeks prior. They could have very easily went around Mr Mui but chose to stand there screaming ridiculous crap that got their friend killed, and many stabbed. There is no law there that says you have to retreat in that state

Not guilty. Ganging up and hitting a man in the river, yeah not good.

For that knife being as small as it was, it had to be one of the sharpest to create wounds like it did! Crazy!

He wasn’t hiding once he had it out either though.

How do you "hide a knife when its out" with no shirt and in swim trunks??? He didnt wave it around, he kept it by his waist and did swift stabs. Thats why people didnt notice at first. @@rockstarofredondo

@@user-xz6ir3bz8fthey didn’t notice it because they were too busy getting worked up reenacting Lord of the Flies on old dude.

Teens really feel entitled and dont beleive they are accountable for their actions.

They are living in fantasy land!

I think he will be found guilty

He threw the first punch? You can’t claim self defense of you initiated the violence. And then continue to walk everyone down that was mean to you and stab them also. Ya the kids were Jean but he took it way to the next level

🤷​@@davidmontoya1400

Ann, 100%

Sanest comment in the whole bunch

Most of us civilized human beings would have never behaved like these teens did, and that makes all the difference in the world. Instigating and provoking.

What would You do if a pack of wolves surrounded You? Fetal position? Lash out? Just stand there?

i wouldnt be a drunk and high asshole for starters or be anywhere near such people.

I wonder why he didn't walk away and go to his own group. Hmmm.

​@@flenzyhe was looking for his phone and snorkel.

He started the whole thing. He came over to them, he was the first to physically assault someone. He was also the oldest one there and definitely should’ve known better. I didn’t see him in a life or death situation whatsoever. I’m all for self defense, but this is not that. He perpetrated all of this.

@1killacallie he was looking to get an item and the woman got in his face and pushed first and the teens kept acting out.

He went back twice to these teens he should have stayed away

I been there

these people did not go floating down a river prepared for someone to stab them !!!!! how could anyone prepare for that?? and how in the name of God do you justify his completely horrid behavior....it is not against the law to drink geeze !!!!! that is the defense TRYING TO SAY HIS CLIENT WAS JUSTIFIED IN STABBING PEOPLE AND KILLING SOMEONE... BECAUSE THEY WERE DRINKING SO IT'S OK ....... I DISAGREE !!!!! OH AND BEFORE THE POLICE FOUND HIM WHY DID HE CHANGE HIS CLOTHES AND GET RID OF THE KNIFE ??????????

​@@sallytrued3804 -- When one drunkard joins a mob of 12 other drunkards who have surrounded, are harassing, beating down and making shapes to drown an isolated man, one must expect him to fight back to save his life. If not prepared to deal with the natural consequences then better keep your distance (and guts inside belly). *_"Fear is the beginning of wisdom"_* , thus spaketh the LORD. *_"Fear the Boomer, lest ye harvest an Darwin Award"_* , he addeth, for those who are particularly slow in the uptake.

@@foobarrel9046 We disagree....completely and utterly disagree.

​@@foobarrel9046 Wow. Conspiracy fueled make believe award goes to:

Definitely not he could of walked away

Ok...I might be leaning towards that. But,was his life in danger. Drunk underaged adults bulling a 54 year old. Assaulting him by pushing him. But he did strike the girl. Hmmm...I don't know.

@@justinarthur1399 ...he thought they found the lost cell phone and was showing it to him.. that's the reason he even approaches them.. but they were actually just taunting and harassing him.. you can see the confusion on the old guys face.. this kid recording the video got the old man attacked.. his friend killed and several other stranger stabbed.. it's self-defense for the old guy and the full responsibility of what happened is on the kid who recorded and instigated it.. period

@@justinarthur1399 he didn't hit the "girl"

@@justinarthur1399 But the girls had their hands on his chest and arms pushing him.

This judge wants to throw this guy away for life

This showing little clips out of order is Very confusing to these witnesses. Defense keeps accusing EVERYONE of lying when he’s just trying to confuse them.

He has every​ right to it's a trial, both side put foward the evidence they have @@kathyeyesopen4078

​@@justinarsenault1926your right cant believe the judge, he cant hide how he feels, yet tells the jury different

@@justinarsenault1926no actually i think he’s for the defense. I don’t like him

the man's ass was over grown?? - u seem to be concerned a little too much with people's ass's... earl

Possibly the best summation of the case I’ve seen… throw in the 3rd group of obnoxious drunk hillbillies, who seemed delighted to see a situation they could get involved in

Privileged? Right like poor non-privledged teens don't commit violent crimes and bully people. 😂 Also, not that it would even matter, but where is the evidence that they are privileged? I see zero evidence that these young adults are wealthy. Why is the guy creepy? Creepy because he's in his 50's? What so all old people are creepy? The young ones were acting like the creeps tbh.

@@xoPRECISEox Agree on the first part, but in my opinion the grown up guy, seemd quite creepy, if you watch hes eyes and body movements, on the video segments.. Especially the one from the trail part where the guy filming is on the stand...

@@no.name.required he thought they stole a cellphone, that's why he looked upset. Idk the full story before the video started, nobody does. These kids lied so much in court this week. They all act like these couldn't see the guy getting beat up right in front of them, yeah because they were the one's assaulting and bullying him. 😂 They probably did steal the cellphone and snorkel.

Or maybe if the old man had walked away.

Or if HE kept his knife shut

Hear that kids, when a drunk angry werid guy walks up to your space, begins lurking around you , looking between your legs, moving your property around , circling around you, lunging at you, grabbing your property and holding it, blocking your path of travel, do the right thing, keep quite and let him continue. Logical and something all parent s should remember. You can't make this stuff up.

@@jackson9282 your comment is all well and good except these teenagers had no idea if he was drunk, angry, or weird.

He did leave. He left and went back to his group for 5ish mins (likely to get knife) then went back to kids. So he obviously wanted the escalation and intended to hurt kids.

Do you really think that if Mr. Miu had walked away that they wouldn't have followed him and continue to taunt him? Well I do.

@@mikefederighi9081they did follow him. It’s all on video.

​@@mikefederighi9081 the final altercation happened after he tried to disengage bud.

BS These kids were drunk, thought they had a mark they could punk, surrounded him, humiliated him, threatened his life and got what they deserved!

The guy didn't even get punched. No reason to stab everyone

​@@gsustimehe was swarmed and pushed down under water.

@@gsustimeare you saying that it’s ok for a bunch of 17,18,19,20 something year olds approximately 12 people swarming all around you pushing you down in the water constantly OK? I guess it would be all the same if this group k1lled the man to you right???? And apparently you don’t believe in self defense, anyone stands back and say this man had no right to defend himself has lost their dam minds!!!!!! This group intentionally targeted and instigated this fight unfortunately it didn’t end they way these young people thought And again people take Gen X for granted we grew up a lot different then then pansy asses

@@judithgannon5642 He charged the teens while they were laying down on their tubes. The intention was clearly a threat.

@@mysterywoman40 I finally had to go and watch it from the beginning. He was initially looking for a phone-in a waterproof case and went downstream. The kids sniped at him when he got around their tube. He dropped his snorkel stuff. He started to walk away. They jeered and called him Pedo. He came back, looking angry, said they took his mask. 2 girls got in his face. One poked or pushed him. Maybe. He poked her. Maybe. She didn't fall or drop her beer. Boys swarmed him. He smiles creepy. Pushing, falling, pushing, stabbing. Everyone was awful. Who wants to go to a family park if there's pack upon pack of drunks? Here, maybe this helps. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mpiEqNWTp7mlXX0.htmlsi=E7SqKfOnDZh_yHaw

These are not stabs, they are slices! He sliced a huge part of their bodies, like scalping a fish. He's a madman. He's GUILTY!!!

I thought about that too... in that pose one can do much harm to others... maybe he did marshal arts at one time... the whole incident is very tradgic and devastating... even if he was angry at thd teens and the women and was scared of many people sourrounding him, he could have acted differntly and try to deescalate himself... he seemed to let his rage out on these people he stabed and want revenge maybe mixed with anxiety? Hard to tell what was in the mans mind at the time... do we know if he was intoxicated aswell... Sadly so many involved had been intoxicated.... But what this man did... to me it was not only selfdefence.... he showed no remorse right after the incident, he tried to mislead the police by asking them questions as if he was not involved, he did nothing to help the victims , he did not call 911, he through the weapon away .. to me he was acting in parts like someone who amok runs... a lot happend in this incident... lam so sorry for that boy who lost his life and for the orhers who got injured so serverly... lam glad they all survived... and even if they made mistakes too... BUT nothing gives that man the right to murder and injure these people to that extend.... to me he is guilty... he did the most harm to others... But sadly all had some part to it and it escaleted even if for some the intention was to deescalate.... l would not really want to be in that jury... that is not so easey to rule on...

That's what I noticed a lot. How he was holding the knife and his grip on it and posture at the time. He was ready to do damage and knew how to obviously. Apparently he was pretty strong be able to gut someone. Sad situation, jury will decide this man's fate but with those teens doing all the shouting and yelling slurs should have to at least go out and speak to groups as to what can happen with this kind of behavior for clicks, likes, recognition, money maybe. This in society needs to be called out and dealt with somehow. Over the top bullying with hate speech.

He had the knife palmed and ready when he turned around and came back. He never showed them he had a knife. I’m almost positive that is where the smirk came from before he hit the first girl

​@@ReginaK2yep. I agree. Because when he was pushed down, he immediately got up and already had the knife in his hand ready to go and stabbed the Isaac guy and disembowled him. He mightve lived in Ukraine or Poland during war time and been in combat. Which I agree with ppl saying kids nowadays need to be careful who they're chastising, even though they have free speech and can yell at whoever, but eventually they'll yell at the wrong person who's a psychopath like Mr miu. It looked like he had a flashback of working at a prison camp or something. The look in his eyes and they way his posture was looked like a deranged lunatic. He definitely wasn't in fear. He was trying to teach these kids a lesson. He's definitely going to prison for most likely the rest of his life. There no way he reached in his pocket and got the knife out that quick. He definitely already had it in his hand. He mightve had it folded close then hurried and whipped itvopen when his hand was in the water

Those wounds are pretty gross and terrifying…

@@strawbricketteshortcake5460totally

Seriously I can’t even watch the clips…..

Indeed. A Greek Tragedy that was never written. How many symbolisms in this story.

What you imagine and what is reality is different…

​@@jaluntaylor4596 not really. as someone who has been attacked and used a knife to defend themselves, on my own property, I definitely didn't rake my knife through her abdomen. I didn't have enough time to think about that. I jabbed. I was terrified I was going to jail but thankfully the cops believed me. There wasn't even an investigation bc she called 911 too and told on herself. She went to the hospital and then jail bc they caught her with all kinds of prescriptions that weren't hers. And just for the record, I didn't want to press charges because I genuinely couldn't handle it at the time. Plus.... I stabbed the btch. I won. I was already going through so much at the time it honestly feels like it was a dream bc it happened and was over sooo fast. I no longer live in a city, this was a big reason why I moved to a rural area.

It’s because the kid in the yellow shorts pushed him right as the old guy stabbed him and the knife went up his torso as the guy fell back.

​@@jaluntaylor4596 not really. I typed an entire response and it was filtered, but as someone who has been attacked and defended myself with a 🔪, I definitely jabbed. Did not have the time to think about "digging around."

@@fioregiallo self defense end of day doesn’t not matter the lethality of force when your life is on the line.

He did walk away . And was walking back to his group.

No proof he hit her.

Then he turned around and went back towards them over words and opened his knife. His ego was hurt when a woman cursed at him to leave. You can’t claim self defense when you walked back several times. He wanted to hurt people over words. 99% of the world would be dead if we killed each other over words.

My thoughts exactly. This entire incident could have been avoided. How? Simple. Mue is an ADULT with life experiance! He should have recognized this group floating by chastising him where rowdy BOYS full of testosterone, alcohol, themselves, and being loud mouth jerks! (I'll give Mue that!) Here's where the ADULT part comes into play. Had Mue exercised self control and ignored them they would have floated on by him and it would have been over! But instead Mue CHOSE to let these kids get under his thin skin and he charged at them accosting their forward progress. End of story!

@@sandyseward522YES!!!!

Well, it’s because he had the knife and unintentionally killed someone. But I think all the memory loss is cause for not guilty! And all the lies.

Gosh...i don't know. You think self defense maybe. I'm trying to be neutral.

Have you ever been beaten up by a group of strangers? I have, something happens inside you and the animal comes out. You're sitting somewhere imagining it, which is completely different. I don't admire that he did this, but I understand the physiological response - especially if he'd been traumatized by something in his past.

He was punched in the face and had a mob of people calling him a raper he wasn't going to let them drown him he was in fear for his life he defended himself

@@jackmcminn2520 yeah, I also want to emphasize the name calling. Sounds innocent, but calling someone a raper/paedo is effectively calling for violence (or even death) on them. Also, if you've ever been jumped by a group of people you'll know how helpless you are and what a dangerous situation you're in. Even a single drunk violent person in a street fight can kill you. Now imagine a mob and you're in a foot of water.

Well, if you notice in the video he is falling backwards when it happens. He wasn’t stable enough to do that intentionally. The guy was coming at him pushing him down

The judge is bias against Miu

@ginabird111865 You have to be a sociopath to stab these young people because your ego was bruised. Alcohol+Drinking=Bad Judgement

No evidence he punched her or anyone else.

You saw a punch huh?

They all could have left also They started harassing him first They could have just floated by

No proof he punched anyone. NONE. That is their lie. Mob mentality. Punks who did it for the "culture."

Because everyone was intoxicated and had memory loss.

Exactly, they only telling the story that make them look like innocent scared little kids. That's what their wanting to protray. I really hope they don't get away with lying. All their stories match and they forgot the exact same things. This is a rehearsal if I ever seen one. If y'all don't remember that much how do you even know what y'all remember? Not very good witnesses

He put his hand on his back trying to break it up and thats enough to get stabbed??

@@user-xz6ir3bz8f who are you trying to put words in my mouth taking what i said into an entirely different context where you don't even know what my opinion is about who deserved what or didn't. get a grip. four witnesses in a row today busted lying on the stand. sad to see it if you want a conviction based on evidence and statements on the stand. the guy you refer to said he did not hit him but he did and then proceeded on cross to call it a light tap. if you don't like that idea too bad

If you think its OKAY to stab/kill people (Including a young women) for accusing an older man for being creepy towards young women then I dont know what to tell you. @@bunnylovesbostons

@@user-xz6ir3bz8f it's really dumb how you keep saying 'if you think it's okay...' ASSuming you know my opinion on what I think is ok or not when I never once condone ANY behavior by Any person involved shows you might have a social disease you should troll someone else with. as said once before, get a grip. and maybe a therapist

50 is not elderly? We're the teenagers children then????? Miu is an alcoholic that raged out after the stupid kids started calling him names and hurt his feelings. Too bad that doesn't mean you get to punch , then cry wolf after they retaliate. And then you murder one of them

The Carlsen group were all over age 20.

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@@sarahrean7174 🥴🥴

"Elderly"? The man wasn't in his 70s or 80s.

He's not a witness, he's the VICTIM, asshole. Of course he's not sure where everyone else was. He's being stabbed...

One man who was being aggressive, said he was looking for little girls, ran at them and then assaulted two of them... let's not pretend they weren't surrounding him for a reason.

all while bringing a knife to do said assault.... Also, it was 2 separate groups trying to stop him... Not his "crew" lol

Yep, surrounding a creep who would not leave this group alone. He was the cause of all of it.

Wow chuck which kid are you in the video. Yep, that old man surrounded those kids and used his face to that kids hand, he also pulled the one kid to his near drowning. Yep its all caught on video.

Who cares! They are doing what every teenager and young adults do... unfortunately. If you have ever raised a teenager guess what they did just that too unless you had them locked in the basement!

Probably a responsible adult (sarcasm). How can anyone take these testimonies seriously knowing they were impaired at the time of incident?

Because if ur impaired and something this crazy is happening ur gonna sober up even if you don't think you are. You will and no matter how fucked up you are, if this is happening you're gonna remember it.

How did you get alcohol when you were a teen? I know I got it any way I could, that doesn't have anything to do with this case at all! Teens drink, people on a river, inner tubing....they drink, most all of them, so what!

Have you never heard the term "when there is a will, there is a way." I'm 61 now but back in the 70's I started buying beer and liquor when I was 15. And weed is everywhere. You are very naive.

Totally agree. Everyone, just saying these are poor scared little kids. Already have their mind made up about this case no matter the evidence or anything. There honestly should be charged going both ways. Their just trying to hang this man because an older teenager was killed. That trumps the facts it seems here.

I don't think anyone can justify stabbing 4 or 5 people!!!

It stops being self defense when he stays there and actually stabs people who aren’t even touching him. Or initiating the fight by punching someone.

I'm sorry but he approached THEM TWICE! if he had been in fear for his life why would he not 1) Walk away and NOT COME BACK and 2) Back up and walk away (they were not surrounding him) or 3) Why didn't he give a warning and brandish his knife and say 'I'm scared and if you don't back up I will use my knife'. No this guy kept coming back for more, grinning and acting like a total creep before pushing a girl, disembowelling a boy, slashing the other boys heart in half AND stabbed/slashed at least 3 others. This guy is GUILTY. He was the adult and all he had to do was WALK AWAY.

THANK YOU, finally commented who watch it all. teens were clout chasing-it is becoming more﹠more common - and gained traction with the idea that ‘viral’ videos-the more humiliating the better, the general opinion is that, so, acting this way is a ploy to solicit the video they can either sell for a good chunk of cash, post themselves for attention from classmates, a lot of money on the line and culprits, like these 5 teens, desperate go to any length to put others in danger, taking advantage of mob mentality, and will not stop until they draw a crowd and the goal is to have the crowd attack based on making false statement ‘he’s a pedophile’﹠ then when the crowd nears the teens then say﹠said it as well in this case, “We got video proof!” ﹠the crowd goes wild on the unsuspecting victim, and the teens get their viral video, no respect for human life-and pick a man in his 50s, and 5 football players

He was in shock!

Your right ! If the bozo didn't respond the way he did to the cops, he would be set free due to self defense.

he wasn't even there for that..did you even watch the video? He came AFTER the old man punched the chick... he wasn't part of the first group..

You don’t kill someone because they taunt or call you a bad name. If you are 54 yr old and have acquired enough wisdom over the years, you walk way, not pull out a knife and kill. Leave the idiot drunk teens alone. They weren’t a rouge gang of hoodlums, robbing people, threatening people. They were just being annoying. Besides, EVERYONE was dinking that day on the river. Uhhh, get a hold of your logic. Nicolae took a life.

@@megleeanne7792how is the old guy supposed to know who’s part of what group?? He was surrounded by 13 drunk teenagers.

whats wrong with u he clearly was trying to break this whole thing up and was stabbed in the process. how blind r u

@@l-train7876 talk about lying where is 13 came from

He was tubing on the river in the woods. Who wouldn't bring a knife.. use your brain

If you start a fight you don't get to decide how someone defends themselves

It's a mob of drunken people that were yelling and taunting not innocent teens floating the river.

@@kerrib4670the man on trial started the fight! He punched the girl. So he started it and then got to decide to kill someone? Don’t think so.

@@jeffmabry1149they were yelling at him to leave…. It’s in the video.

That’s what i was thinking

Because invincibility. Same reason they think they can act this way and have no consequence

Plenty of people prone to seizures still drink..

Because he’s in charge of his own decisions and felt it was worth it to celebreate. You’re not his mom. Wtf?

@@Mark-eu6mc Too bad I wasn’t his mother he wouldn’t be a punk

Listen to your word. Within his reach. That knife was small as hell if he cut you. You where to close. Esp being aggressive. What? should he have just stood there while kids are screaming cussing and not interested in what was even happening. They hear looking at little girls. And went in. Which supports the point of these kids screaming to a huge group of ppl that someone doing nothing was touching kids. And the very danger that passed to this older man. Which was a lie. You know like I do. Child abuse cause Blind rage in ppl. This was a mob of misunderstanding. What to blame someone. Blame the kid with the camera.

The more I watch of this trial the more I sympathize with Mr. Miu. He's surrounded by a bunch of drunks who are getting in his face and assaulting him. If I were being assaulted by an angry mob and feared further injury and possibly drowning by these drunks, I'd lash out by any means to get them to back off. There was no point that the mob was to be reasoned with and, in fact, they just became more enraged as the moments passed.

You got some brain dead people replying to you, half of the people he stabbed were very obviously no threat and didn’t assault him, sick old man can rot

@@UrOnlyWarning Wrroooooong! You can’t deadly force if there isn’t a threat. He smacked a girl. Stabbed another girl and then stabbbed the guy trying to de escalate. The dude was wacko! If a girl hits you one time you don’t start stabbing her

I would have if I was outnumbered by a group of teens harassing and assaulting me !

Her right face has no marks on it at all in the very clear seconds after photo…..it’s why they tried to say he hit her left cheek.

Yes he said he has leg issues and struggled to walk on the rocks.

I can understand that

It’s demonstrating that it wasn’t an emergency enough to set the beer down, they just wanted to come over and interlope in the melee. Sad that you can’t figure that out.

Think deeper please

oh, shut up karen

Everybody was a "hero" until they saw the video.

His Group Friend also said i didn't want them to think he was a predator .That's why they made a pack not to go near the young people.

Are you for real?

They ARE Karens😂

He look suspicious though

Yessssss, I strongly agree ​@@rockstarofredondo

I think the camera person called in ill and the janitor is standing in.

@@thenightporteri think they hired Jawuan now that he got his testimony in

Female's position, so don't be so critical

Wasn't he looking for his snorkel ? Walking around looking down listen to yesterdays witness

Your absolutely right!

​@@darleneclemens7356he was looking for a phone that had been dropped in the water and they attacked him.

@@darleneclemens7356no, he had his goggles & snorkel in his hand

Yes! 💯 He it's absolutely guilty.

And got a punch in "for the culture"