Apple's M4 Chips Leaked - M4 Extreme Mac Pro CONFIRMED!

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Apple's entire M4 lineup of chips has been LEAKED by Mark Gurman on X. This includes the upcoming M4 chip, the M4 Pro, the M4 Max, the M4 Ultra & M4 Extreme. Here's everything you NEED to know..
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@MaxTechOfficial Ай бұрын

M3 MacBook Air 13" ➡ geni.us/NmOB M3 MacBook Air 15" ➡ geni.us/kMpdm M3 14" MacBook Pro ➡ geni.us/qk6qhg 14" M3 Pro/Max MacBook Pro ➡ geni.us/GJYD 16" M3 Pro/Max MacBook Pro ➡ geni.us/rHnvP M2 MacBook Air ➡ geni.us/Kg6bwJ

@sankalanpradhan5002 Ай бұрын

Apple in 2025: we are so excited to introduce our new chip.....M5 EPIC

@PaulStoffregen Ай бұрын

lol, or SledgeHammer or Bulldozer or other over-the-top names AMD chose over the years

@maxweinbach3996 Ай бұрын

For the iPad

@jeremymull3249 Ай бұрын

😂

@mosando Ай бұрын

EPIC would be the perfect troll

@SirusStarTV Ай бұрын

Will be sued by Epic Games

@stancartmankenny Ай бұрын

actually the "M4 Hydra" would be a pretty cool name.

@genxtechguy Ай бұрын

M4 Kraken

@MrSamPhoenix Ай бұрын

Nah, that “Hydra” is associated with an allegory of Nazism in Marvel.

@Mainyehc Ай бұрын

@@MrSamPhoenixI mean, it’s kinda niche, but sure, the Hydra has some negative connotations by itself.

@MrSamPhoenix Ай бұрын

@@Mainyehc hey plenty of Marvel fans out there. They’ll notice it immediately.

@ReviewThisTestThat Ай бұрын

That mean for you chop off a core. We get another one.

@MalfoyR Ай бұрын

RIP Nvidia? Let's be serious now.

@s3cr3td00rindar00m Ай бұрын

When had this channel been serious?😂

@LeslieZA Ай бұрын

just down vote click bait thumb vids. they will learn eventually

@JerzyLepecki Ай бұрын

R.I.P. Nvidia GTX 1060 would be bitten by M4 Extreme next year 🤣

@maxweinbach3996 Ай бұрын

Apple has destroyed the competition

@wuju_ow Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@AyaWetts Ай бұрын

efficiency CPU cores aren't useless on a desktop. Using less power to do background simple tasks helps keep heat and power usage down.

@pumpernickelplace Ай бұрын

wish my budget allowed me to replace my hot roaring 2016 macbook pro i use as a home media computer with a more energy efficient M series mac mini

@NoOne-uh9vu Ай бұрын

I assume these machines are not expected to do any light tasks 99,9% of the day. They are meant to be extreme workhorses rendering video, 3D and AI stuff 24/7. Heat should be no problem in the studio since it has a massive cooler and the M4 is probably a very efficient chip to start with

@ryejpeg Ай бұрын

@@NoOne-uh9vuworkstation powerhouses, infamous for users that never use browsers or light apps and for never running basic OS tasks in the background

@thebuddercweeper Ай бұрын

Power usage isn't so much of a concern on desktop, heat is but when it comes to Apple silicon chips, the performance cores already use so little power (they are literally used in phones) that they aren't going to be making much of a difference.

@Dani-kq6qq Ай бұрын

People who spend that much money on a computer dont care about power bill

@cpufrost Ай бұрын

Need OLED MacBook Pro with FaceID and no notch!

@arphenti2502 Ай бұрын

They are already micro led

@SinghalRishi27 Ай бұрын

@@arphenti2502 mini led*

@arphenti2502 Ай бұрын

@@SinghalRishi27 yeah lol

@Nerdy_Aomeba Ай бұрын

100%! Useless stupid notch! I don’t understand the point of it!

@bibasik7 Ай бұрын

If they get rid of the notch, where will Face ID go?

@Fire_King5141 Ай бұрын

5090 joined the game

@nexusyang4832 Ай бұрын

*5090 has entered the chat*

@SaraMorgan-ym6ue Ай бұрын

M4 is a noob chip for Noobs RTX 5090 has no competition from the best M4 chips it has more to fear from AMD and Intel then the M4🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@PolluxChung Ай бұрын

If all these rumors are true, M3 definitely is the most incomplete and very short-lived series.

@cjeelde Ай бұрын

Exactly! But remember, Mark Gurman might be not 100% accurate. It's only rumors so far. Mark Gurman has been wrong before. I think he's 80-95% accurate. Not 100%. Remember that.

@nylotical Ай бұрын

Yes, but it's not a bad thing that the M3 series is way better as a laptop chip than a desktop chip. You wouldn't want to put a full size RTX4090 in a laptop.

@nicolasb.henry294 Ай бұрын

The way they create new products is just insane. This means next year this M3 series will be already obsolete. We have M1, M2, M3 and now M4 in less than 4 years it is insane. I don't know for you guys but I buy Macs following my need and not following the hype.

@cjeelde Ай бұрын

@@nicolasb.henry294it's the same routine as for the A series for iPhone. So it's not a big deal. The tricky thing is the scaling when adding cores. We saw the problems with the scaling with M1 Ultra for the GPU cores. It got improved with M2 Ultra but not 100% perfect. It takes time to build up a business with employees. The best people. Probably that's why Ultra was "Dual Max" to save time. Apple probably got more people working with the M series so that's why it's so likely to see Ultra that's a brand new design instead of Dual Max. This is my thoughts :)

@bzzi Ай бұрын

@@nicolasb.henry294 Same. My MBP 16 with a M1 Max 64gb is WAY more than I need already, for a long time

@AZisk Ай бұрын

Came here for the M4 news and got a Greek Mythology lesson on top of it

@37royal Ай бұрын

M4 Extreme in Mac Pro that is much more reasonable to me, it makes not sense that Mac Pro is much more expensive than Mac studio with the same chip.

@Sukkulents_ Ай бұрын

@@sebastianstubenreuther4373Mac Pro not MacBook pro. Both are desktop standalone PCs, the Mac Pro is just bigger with slightly more expansion options for a ridiculously high price compared to the completely equal Studio

@mzr9710 Ай бұрын

@@sebastianstubenreuther4373 i think you dont get either a display nor a speaker with the mac pro

@richard.20000 Ай бұрын

Hidra = one body + many heads ... am I the ony one who see similarity to AMD Epyc CPU with one big central OI chiplet and 12 CPU chiplets (8 CPU cores each) to get 96 cores in total? Just for M4 Extreme AKA Hidra the central chiplet would be massive GPU with CPU chiplets around.

@piyushgupta1606 Ай бұрын

Will cost all Kidneys of All family members.

@josephlabs Ай бұрын

I am excited

@jasenjahn Ай бұрын

Intoducing the M4 crunch wrap supreme.

@Gabe_A Ай бұрын

😂

@Patty100ish Ай бұрын

Change your channel name to over hype Apple tech please

@WarriorsPhoto Ай бұрын

😂😊😂

@guristoski2625 Ай бұрын

I agree

@tuberichter Ай бұрын

exactly 😂

@jimmykurniawan8719 Ай бұрын

1. Overhype apple 2. New apple device was a disappointment 3. I was wrong 4. PROFIT Rinse and repeat.

@pancake8199 28 күн бұрын

I agree

@nintendoever Ай бұрын

Apple: Let's pair M4 with soldered 8Gb of Ram and 256Gb slow SSD, to save a 1 or 2 bucks on our Pro machine, and screw our customers who want to work or game in our machines. It's good enough for MS office, Facebook and e-mail, anyway... Really want to work? We can sell you 8Gb Ram and 256gb of SSD for a price of an iPad. Want a 24Gb and 1Tb? We sell that for a price of an iPhone Pro! Too expensive? Buy our overpriced PRO machines. At least it comes with 18Gb of Ram and 512Gb... Want more RAM and SSD? We sell that for the price of an iPhone...

@rrowans Ай бұрын

sir yapsalot 😭🙏

@I_like_science Ай бұрын

That’s a really long way to say you can’t afford something you really want.

@LostAxos Ай бұрын

The slow ssd issue was resolved in M3, 8gb ram is enough for MB Air users, Pro machines start at 18gb ram

@nintendoever Ай бұрын

@@I_like_science That's a short way to say we shouldn't mind paying 100 bucks for an Apple branded Big Mac Meal.

@nintendoever Ай бұрын

@@LostAxos MacBook Pro also starts with M4 chip with 8Gb of Ram but 512Gb ssd.

@jihadrouani5525 Ай бұрын

"M4 Ultra will outperform any Nvidia GPU" This cannot be further from the truth, even a mobile RTX 4070 wipes the floor with every Apple GPU in existence, let alone a Desktop 4070 which is 40% faster than its laptop variant, and a Desktop 4090 is 4 TIMES faster than a laptop 4070, Apple simply have no hope with M4 Extreme, and Nvidia is not sitting idle, 5080 and 5090 are rumored to be released in Q3 or Q4 this year, and they're rumored to be monsters, 70% faster performance in rasterized games, and 200% faster in ray traced games compared to a 4090 which is already beyond Apple's wildest expectations. The GPU on Apple sadly would remain a handicap and Nvidia would still be the performance king.

@Wybrem Ай бұрын

lol no, listen you're a gamer, there are no games on mac. In real tasks the 4090 cannot compete already or barely at 600watts vs 100 lmao. there is also little reason to compare it to ancient nvidia hardware. you cannot use it in modern computers like a mac anyway.

@DoctorAthom Ай бұрын

I totally agree when we talk about LLM and other machine learning tasks. Nvidias Cuda Cores are outperforming the apple chips at the moment

@Wybrem Ай бұрын

@@DoctorAthom except they don't in practice. plenty of benchmarks and tests, only desktop who use copious amounts of energy can beat it, but it's not really beating that way.

@Dani-kq6qq Ай бұрын

@@Wybremlol, 4090 beats apple GPUs at everything that isnt an Apple silicon specific software. Apple dont make powerful gpus when compared to nvidia, they make powerful CPUs. And that is before we look at non-gaming nvidia gpus

@Wybrem Ай бұрын

@@Dani-kq6qq no, the 4090 uses 600watts, limit it to 100 and it's useless. just using more energy is not impressive or winning, it's just show how incompetent you are.

@zackaryhaddon5445 Ай бұрын

So... worth it to wait for the Mac Studio? Any info on the price points being the same/similar?,

@akin242002 Ай бұрын

I doubt it will outperform Nvidia 5090. At least with the M4 chip, the M3 laptops will go on discount sale. Still waiting for the next great Mac Mini.

@JohnSmith-pn2vl Ай бұрын

they don't just like the m2 and m1 didn't, m1 is still far above what 99% need

@akin242002 Ай бұрын

@JohnSmith-pn2vl It did. Both the M1 and M2 Pros started at $2,000. Currently the M1 Pro is at $1,300, and the M2 Pro is at $1,500 on Amazon.

@anshulsingh8326 Ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl My MacBook pro m1 with 32gb ram is slow and sluggish to use. My PC costs half of it and performs so much better. I know it's laptop vs pc but good windows PC has good performance too. Only downside of windows laptop is the battery life for me

@dillonnanoo2259 Ай бұрын

will there be hardware changes? Im using an old surface book atm, and want to upgrade. I'm not sure if I should wait till end of the year?

@IOT4747 Ай бұрын

Which means basically 2 things. 1) We won't get any M3 Ultra/Extreme this year. 2) We won't get an M4 Ultra this year in June - which contradicts the previous video you did.

@njpme Ай бұрын

Are you surprised with this channel?

@rygregory Ай бұрын

Listening to his videos at x1.25 speed seems more natural to me. Might be helpful for others. 😊

@marc8vino Ай бұрын

He already speaks pretty fast. I think a little slower would be better not faster.

@fanshaw Ай бұрын

Always x2 for speech. x1.25-1.5 for songs.

@LB-yg2br Ай бұрын

1.75x-2x

@fatmode Ай бұрын

1,15x is best for him

@sanji663 Ай бұрын

2x minimum

@BarefootMediaTV Ай бұрын

so no new mac studio in july? I dont want to wait another year.

@inspiredartphotos Ай бұрын

Me too!

@CinemaRepository Ай бұрын

Apple is making the N3E chips right now, so there is good reason to think they’ll have something in June.

@murdockscott Ай бұрын

Same boat.

@BlackMan614 Ай бұрын

That is what Gurman is saying, though he has been wrong before. But the M3 architecture seems to rule out an Ultra, so he’s probably right.

@JohnSmith-pn2vl Ай бұрын

i mean studio is for work, you should never wait to buy tools that cost not much like a computer.

@brunogaspar3977 Ай бұрын

A M4 extreme in the Mac Pro will not matter if Apple still lacks expansion options

@fmax3000 Ай бұрын

There’s no Mac Studio Pro, lol! It’s Mac Pro.

@NoOne-uh9vu Ай бұрын

This will be true in the larger picture, mostly, but for certain specific niche tasks the Extreme Studio will outshine the competition. If the M4 Extreme studio will find mass market adoption is questionable for now especially considering the probable price point. Maybe Apple has something planned but until then it looks like they are purposefully missing the needs of the pro market

@CinemaRepository Ай бұрын

Thunderbolt 5 is 120G, so that’s plenty fast enough.

@brunogaspar3977 Ай бұрын

@@NoOne-uh9vu You’re right

@NoOne-uh9vu Ай бұрын

@@fmax3000 Right. But lets me real, the MacPro isnt going to go forward much longer. The form factor and expandability is a joke and so is the adoption rate. They might use TB5 in the future for "expansions"

@nelsonngu Ай бұрын

The next top of the line chip will be call M5 Armageddon

@adredy Ай бұрын

100% after 5 will be 6 and after 9 .... X :)

@ruhri0411 Ай бұрын

I really hope that the MacBook Pro comes with 24GB Ram and 1TB SSD in the basic configuration!

@semahj Ай бұрын

Don’t hold your breath lol

@TheVikingRaid Ай бұрын

you would be extremely lucky to get 12gb

@ataytaygaraev4298 Ай бұрын

Not soon. They will on 18+512 for 5 generations at least.

@ruhri0411 Ай бұрын

@@ataytaygaraev4298 AI could change it, 18 GB is not enough!

@ruhri0411 Ай бұрын

@@TheVikingRaid In the base base model yes, I referred to the 18GB M3!

@ataytaygaraev4298 Ай бұрын

Another misleading title 😂This xtreme chip wont beat even RTX 4080 😂

@crestofhonor2349 Ай бұрын

They haven't even beat the 3090 yet

@JohnSmith-pn2vl Ай бұрын

the m2 ultra is already very similar to 4080, so that's out of question 2x ultra + 2x newer version (M4 extreme) will beat it easily

@anshulsingh8326 Ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl Yeah right

@jihadrouani5525 Ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl The M2 Ultra is 70% slower than a 3090, let alone a 4080 or 4090 lol

@ivann129 Ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl It is PHONE`S CPU just a bit stronger than iphones this is not desctop

@rossimarti 13 күн бұрын

Waiting… to put ‘M4’ chip into the company’s flagship Mac Pro, after all the other products… just call it the ‘M5’ chip. I’m not a marketing genius, either.

@TechGameDev Ай бұрын

you said rip nvidia gpu nvidia kills apple in addition the rtx 4090 was released 2 years ago in 4 months the rtx 5090 will be released and will destroy apple for another 3 years

@wooferjr169 Ай бұрын

And you need to hang the 5090's power supply outside your window! 😂😂

@I_like_science Ай бұрын

Make sure you keep a fire extinguisher next to you? And let’s also not forget power consumption

@TechGameDev Ай бұрын

@@I_like_science yes NVIDIA have high tdp but it is powerful on dekstop pc for creators needs a very powerful computer and not a effeciency computer and lower performance apple chips is good for laptop

@I_like_science Ай бұрын

@@TechGameDev that’s where you’re wrong. The reason why most workstations consume large amounts of energy is INEFFICIENCY. M chips and their built in GPUs can perform at the same level as “recent” discrete gpus at 30w. Imagine a desktop M1 apu that’s comes close to a 4080 that consumes 100w that would be awesome ! I can’t wait for the future

@sid_d_exe141 Ай бұрын

@@I_like_science you can't get 4080 level performance at least the desktop version even with a ultra chip Because SOC doesn't provide even cooling and the diminishing return with apple SOC is really high Even with all the power in the world it can't even come close to 4080ti super level performance whose TDP is 150-200 watts It's like saying a kid has a lot of energy in his childhood and will have the same or better at 30-40 years of age

@joseguzman6988 Ай бұрын

Just want to mention that Microsoft believes that all new AI PCs will need 40 TOPs to be considered AI certified or ready so they can run LLMs locally. No current M2 or M3 based chip has that many TOPs, so I think that Apple needs to make sure all M4 chips have that many TOPs to remain competitive and will revamp their AI processing.

@rafaeldomenikos5978 Ай бұрын

That said though the M2 Max, M2 Ultra and M3 Max chips are the only consumer products in the market that have enough VRAM for 70b models. They are not the fastest, but to do that with traditional GPUs you need to buy either 3 4090s for $6000 or an A100 for $40000 + the PC cost. So yeah currently for local LLMs apple is one of the best options, despite not being the fastest.

@thedownunderverse Ай бұрын

What exactly is an AI PC ?

@maxweinbach3996 Ай бұрын

We need this on the iphone

@ahaimes6320 Ай бұрын

AI is a marketing spiel to sell you a laptop. Most people using AI will not need that level of performance. Apple also measures its TOPS using FP16 (16-bit floating point), which differs from 1:1 compared with rivals. FP16 is obviously different in machine learning to FP32 in many ways. These include less memory use and faster but less precision without balances.

@syedhs Ай бұрын

Mark Gurman is most probably hired by apple marketing.. to keep interest poured in..

@JohnSmith-pn2vl Ай бұрын

as if apple would need to do that

@SciTechEnthusiasts Ай бұрын

Keep up the good work, I waited for 3 years now watching such upcoming videos and I'll keep waiting 😂

@TheOriginalCoda Ай бұрын

Which Macs don't have the storage soldered onto the board? Those I might be interested in.

@D-One Ай бұрын

Mac Pro only.

@user-ms8qg2rz5s Ай бұрын

What if Mac Pro is a huge PCIE/MPX case, and users can get up to 4 M4 ultra MPX slot in the Mac pro housing?

@doubletee4391 Ай бұрын

Does anyone know what apple's resistance to offering a bigger screen iMac again?

@RealtyWebDesigners Ай бұрын

I'd like an iMac Pro with the 32" screen

@MrProTechHD Ай бұрын

you the apple fans will never see a real "change" until Tim Cook Retires or resigns he is not a tech guy he is all about numbers

@127Foxtrot Ай бұрын

I'm wanting to upgrade my 5K 27" iMac, but refuse to go the current 24". I reckon if they released say a ~30 inch M3 (or better) iMac, not even going "Pro", it would fly off the shelves, but I guess Apple must feel the market/consumer desire just isn't big enough (yet) ?

@Jeannemarre Ай бұрын

I believe it was for design reasons, cheaper to make a 24 inch with high PPI than a 27. But you could instead get a 5k display or even bigger with a Mac mini or entry studio. I agree it’s not an all in one but you would get better performance on the other hand

@The_Cali_Dude_88 18 сағат бұрын

The mere fact Apple was going to give you 'inferior' products as compared to the competition is embarrassing. So the 'shut-down' of M3 devices in order to get M4 products is upmost 🎉

@inspiredartphotos Ай бұрын

I need a M3 Ultra Studio now! I have been waiting till June now what! The big oversized Mac Pro is off the table literally for me. Both price and space wise! How about another IMac Pro with proper thermals. I still use mine every day. I know many pro users who feel the same way!

@cjeelde Ай бұрын

Same! But M3 Max instead of M3 Ultra. I cannot see Apple skip M3 for all these Macs: Mac Mini Mac Studio Mac Pro Right now... M3: MBA, MBP14 low-end, iMac M3 Pro: MBP14/16 M3 Max: MBP14/16 Only one Mac got Pro and Max. That makes no sense. Apple wanna make as much money as possible from the M3 lineup??

@fmax3000 Ай бұрын

I’ve been waiting on fire for the best M3 Ultra Studio to move my serious pro work from my M1 Pro MacBook Pro which is connected to a Tri- monitor setup in a clamshell mode. But I need the highest number of CPU and GPU cores with most importantly double the ANU cores. The Max chip is not an option for me as it has only double the GPU cores in the Pro, while keeping the same amount of CPU and ANU cores, and probably the same amount of encoders/ decoders. Not a good upgrade in my case. From first rumours I was hoping the M4 Ultra Studio will be released this year skipping M3 Ultra. I have to wait for the M4 as Apple always give the worst version when introducing new node design then follow it with the best version in the next generation, like they did when introduced the 5nm in iPhone 12, but perfected it with a big difference in the iPhone 13. I need the enhanced ANU and the perfected 3nm chip, and now I have to wait longer. It’s very frustrating, I am in the same boat. Very excited hoping the wait will end any minute as I’m currently struggling with my M1 Pro, but won’t pay the Studio premium unless it’s the right machine that I’m gonna stuck with for the next 3+ years, and prices are ridiculous, especially if you want to upgrade the RAM for example. I wish the base M4 Ultra comes with more than 64GB or they reduce the RAM ridiculous upgrade price, but Cook will try to Milk us every possible way until it’s obsolete!

@KoenKooi Ай бұрын

@@fmax3000since the M3 series is layed out like the M1 and M2, the size of the neural engine is unknown. A bigger NE would make my workflow a lot faster, but I’m not holding my breath.

@fmax6000 Ай бұрын

@@KoenKooiI’ve actually meant, for me buying the ultra studio will be a good upgrade on my current M1 Pro as I will gain from double the ANU as of 32 compared to 16. And of course hoping they increase the number of cores as well but as you said we shouldn’t hold our breath for that. But will have to wait for the M4 which is supposed to have a significant speed bump in the ANU wether because of core count bump or clock speed bump.

@genxtechguy Ай бұрын

Still rock’n my iMac Pro with an Intel Xeon chip. 😬

@PabloGallardoMolina Ай бұрын

that intel xeon chip is amazing. We bought it for heavy computing, increased the ram to 64 and it’s just a beast. no comparison.

@JohnSmith-pn2vl Ай бұрын

@@PabloGallardoMolina well, the base model M1 is as fast in multicore and way faster in single core while using 8 times less energy.

@hemmatv1582 Ай бұрын

”leaked” 😅 ..please stop, it was PR for 20 years now

@user-up9mv1je1y Ай бұрын

they're cooking we are ahead over 4o years

@craigjohnchronicles2504 Ай бұрын

This is kind of counter to what your brother was suggesting a few days ago, where he believe Apple may release the higher end chips first, before releasing the lesser M4 and M4 Pro chips, being that Apple hasn't updated the Studio or the Mac Pro in quite a while, and the M3 Max has been out for several months now.

@supdawg7811 Ай бұрын

Sorry Vadim, you’re outta your mind if you think that they’re gonna compete with NVIDIA. They currently don’t have anything close to the H100 (let alone whatever Blackwell has brought) or the MI flagship AMD has made. But I’m sure you’ll find some metric that lets you declare victory, even though we all know what’s going on.

@cartertg Ай бұрын

Hail Hidra!! Hope they replace the obligatory Apple sticker with an evil Hidra variant. 😂

@iocomposer 26 күн бұрын

Do you think there will ever be a mobo upgrade path for the Intel Mac Pros?

@thelegendaryfk7922 Ай бұрын

Did you forget that you said the same exact thing about the M1 extreme being confirmed for WWDC two years ago

@maxweinbach3996 Ай бұрын

It's here in spirit

@JohnSmith-pn2vl Ай бұрын

yes, he even mentioned it in the video ?

@arcadialive4265 Ай бұрын

I need one, have to get one. But I want it in a smaller Mac studio box. The Mac Pro box is just pointless. It's not like it's a custom built gaming PC where we can upgrade every part of it individually, so why do we need it to take up all that room.

@johntobin3960 Ай бұрын

It won’t outperform Nvidia GPUs by the time it comes out. 50 series starts coming out by the end of this year with big performance jumps.

@crestofhonor2349 Ай бұрын

I'd be surprised if it beats a 4090

@maxweinbach3996 Ай бұрын

Apple has ruined the competition

@sid_d_exe141 Ай бұрын

@@maxweinbach3996 apple has ruined his own capability to compete with other's

@JohnSmith-pn2vl Ай бұрын

ofc it beats it jsut do the math, m2 ultra is already very similar to 4080, now 2 more generations (M4) and double of an ultra. no way 5000 series doubles to 4000, so it's a given imo

@johntobin3960 Ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl Well first of all, the 4090 is 30% faster than the 4080, which is 10% faster than M2 Ultra. The 5090 is supposed to be 70% faster than the 4090 and it’s definitely coming out at the end of this year or very early next year, and the big M4 chip is maybe coming out at the end of next year so….. I’d bet on Nvidia having more performance for at least the next year and a half, if not flat out more than the big M4 chip even if you assume Apple will get the performance scaling right this time. I guess we’ll find out in a couple of years though. Both are powerful products, and there’s no question that Apple will continue to hold an insanely massive power efficiency advantage.

@TheErvdoggie Ай бұрын

Always good info on the channel! I always look forward to the latest news. Keep doing AMAZING videos! The data and the knowledge is hands-down my fav!

@gerald1964 Ай бұрын

Many users would rather prioritize CPU over GPU performance when specifying a system for their purchase but Apple seems to include large numbers of GPU cores with systems that include large number of CPU cores. The extra GPU cores do have a cost not only monetarily but in terms of precious die real-estate which could be used for more CPU cores. In the PC world, one could buy a system with a high end Threadripper processor with a mid-grade GPU so mixing and matching is possible in the PC world.

@mndlessdrwer 3 күн бұрын

Here's an important thing to note: The Mac Pro has literally zero reason to be that damn big if they aren't going to offer some legitimately compelling add-on cards or additional removable internal storage connectivity. Also, I'd really appreciate it if they treated it as an actually professional device instead of just a very expensive consumer device. Like, expandable storage is a no-brainer. A viable selection of add-on cards should be feasible given Apple's value as a company. And RAM. Professionals need the ability to upgrade RAM in the future as workloads continue to grow in memory requirements. It used to be that workstations could get by with 32GB of RAM. Now 64GB is pretty standard. If you want to work with 4K HDR at full bit depth, you'll probably need in excess of 128GB to be able to work with a reasonable amount of the timeline stored in memory. And rendering out 8K HDR with less than 1TB of RAM is just a pipe dream. I'd appreciate if Apple opted for something similar to Dell's CAMM technology to allow RAM packages to be mounted to the board with the shortest trace length possible for a removable package. Like, as long as they can be removed and the modules are supported for at least three generations, I'm even okay with them being proprietary. And, personally, I'd like the CPU to be socketed so customers can upgrade that as well if Apple decides to make some notable mid-cycle upgrades that make sense for customers to shell out a reasonable amount of money to upgrade to without needing to make an excessive amount of e-waste.

@bruh-qi7ue Ай бұрын

So how much faster would these be compared to m3?

@adredy Ай бұрын

:) who cares

@teiturardal85 Ай бұрын

will it have 16tb storage?

@preuton Ай бұрын

Apple in 2026: we are so excited to introduce our new chip..... M6 BERSERK

@TheBadFred Ай бұрын

Will they fix the"Gofetch" issue in the M4s?

@sivasanthoshr.m2222 Ай бұрын

I believe this is staged(not that i say the vulnerability is fake but they knew from the begging and they just wanna see the saturation of sales) and to make more m4 sales coz all has same similar performance

@goobfilmcast4239 Ай бұрын

Weird....why would Apple "leak" new M4s so far away from their actual release dates?? Seems like that would do nothing but depress Apple sales until late 2024 or 2025. The PC industry is already seeing a downturn in overall sales...which is also affecting Apple. I see the M4 release to be announced at June WWDC ... with all except the Ultra and Extreme variants available right away. The M3 set the course for 3nm (and smaller?). The M4 adds more 3D/AR/VR punch with even better power efficiency.

@ahaimes6320 Ай бұрын

Artificial Intelligence (AI) marketing sells phones and laptops, so Apple is rushing to promote its upcoming AI. With Qualcomm and Windows going all-out on the Snapdragon X Elite coming in Q3, Apple needs to reassure the market that all is on target with M4 AI coming soon after.

@TheSteveSteele 25 күн бұрын

It’s crazy that in less than a decade we’ll have chips manufactured at the angstrom level. Chip manufactures will need to be able to manipulate individual atoms, and deal with the quantum effects that are introduced when manufacturing something so small and so complex such as a CPU at these incredibly small sizes. It’s almost unimaginable. Just creating the tools for sub-nano manufacturing alone will change the world in ways we can’t yet imagine.

@sweealamak628 Ай бұрын

I was about to buy a M3 MBA today with an online retailer offering an 11% discount but with the M4 just over a year away, with a better/larger Neural Engine(FINALLY) and even faster CPU & GPU... I think it would be worth the wait.

@BIGbearrrrr 26 күн бұрын

Waiting for tsmc n2, this is the game‘s reformer.

@jerehaw Ай бұрын

Does the M4 do away with the exploit on logging into a Mac?

@nicolasstrawberry4148 Ай бұрын

I just upgraded from a 2020 intel MacBook Pro to an M3 Max a month ago and its been a game changer for my audio production... Im sure the M4 will be more powerful but I don't see myself needing anymore power than I have now unless I'm planning on recording a thousand tracks, which I will NEVER do lol.

@crich95 Ай бұрын

UP NEXT - THE M5 THANOS

@ingolockemann4137 Ай бұрын

Fantastic recap. Liked the video really very much

@davids4610 Ай бұрын

These leaks are not helping me. I need to update my 2015 imac 27" I need the raytracing update in M3 over M2 for my work. Do I hold on for an M4? If I didn't know about the M4, I'd have no problem buying an M3 studio. The age old problem, eh....

@JTpower201 Ай бұрын

I’m in a similar boat man. I will just say just wait until the M4 comes out and see if it’s worth the upgrade otherwise get the M3. Now, if they would get a 120 Hz studio display, I’d be really happy.

@rodneyturnerphoto Ай бұрын

Coming from a 2015 to an M3 or newer will blow your socks off. lol. I think I’m going to hold off til M4 ultra drops for the Mac Studio. WWDC may shed some light on the direction they are headed.

@davids4610 Ай бұрын

@@Ronniezim I need a desktop with at least a 27" monitor.....

@oscarswazi6412 Ай бұрын

Someone making sense this M series chips it be cool if they could be released after 2year 😢

@rohittkrr Ай бұрын

I think you should wait for M5 2nm

@tejassharma8569 Ай бұрын

I would REALLY love to see Imac Pro or Imac Max (with M4 Pro/Max chips, not just *base* M4). Pretty sure a 24 inch+ behemoth will be able to handle all the power with no heat and minimal fans

@jeremyweasley8079 Ай бұрын

It simple, M4 Extreme = 4 x M4 Max wired up, just like M4 Ultra = 2 x M4 Max

@D22_T Ай бұрын

I just need to know if I can replace my gaming pc with this

@TheSteveSteele 25 күн бұрын

It’s not just that e cores aren’t necessary on a desktop computer, it’s that some developers are struggling to get their software to perform well in Apple’s asymmetrical multi processing architecture, when their code was multithreading extremely well with x86’s symmetric processing. Some apps, like Handbrake execute very well across e and p cores. But there’s a certain classes of apps that are still struggling with thread management, task, distribution and load balancing. macOS is mainly responsible for this but applications can be optimized for parallel execution, and multithreading. I’m not sure if removing e cores will help developers with this issue, but it may help with thread affinity preferences by if MacOS isn’t having to make decisions on distributing workload across heterogeneous processors.

@kevinbeardslee7587 Ай бұрын

So no Mac Studio for WWDC this year like you said in your last video?

@sushimamba4281 Ай бұрын

And... the M4 Macs will ship with a massive 8Gb of RAM!

@AurelianIrimia Ай бұрын

Off course! If you want 16GB ram, you will have to pay “just” $999 extra

@kal.asther Ай бұрын

M4 Hydra. Because it has more than one heads. This is going to be a special SOC.

@adredy Ай бұрын

hahahaahah

@darnelldinkins77 Ай бұрын

I just bought M3 Pro MacBook Pro 14 with 18GB ram 1Tb ssd. Am I good with this one? Are they coming out with any new type of studio display soon?

@adredy Ай бұрын

18GB :) why not 16 or 32 ?

@darnelldinkins77 Ай бұрын

@@adredy if you choose the M3 pro chip the base starts at 18gb ram. M3 starts at 8 or 16 I think

@andreaslassak2111 Ай бұрын

Bad step with only 18gb

@headlibrarian1996 13 күн бұрын

I can’t see Apple waiting until mid-2025 for M4, their overall sales would drop like a stone if they did. iPad first made sense because tablet sales are down 40%.

@ps3301 Ай бұрын

Not going to touch a new Mac this year. We need beefier npu in Mac chip with more ram. Otherwise u can't run llm locally

@TazzSmk Ай бұрын

I don't think Apple has to name it M4 "Extreme" because there will no M4 "Ultra" to begin with, hence they could just name it M4 "Ultra" again, and don't offer it on MacStudio - which would prevent cannibalization of MacPro sales

@julian3434 Ай бұрын

In 2025 Mac will announce “final final draft last edit M5”

@stevens7409 Ай бұрын

With so many M chips, it would be awesome to connect all of them together with thunderbolt to share processing power similar to how EGPU works. Especially would be helpful for exporting images or video.

@dizx1982 Ай бұрын

next year… really??? I wanted to buy a mac studio and not the m2, was holding out for the m3 ultra…

@user-sam4465 Ай бұрын

What happened with M3 Ultra?

@lenn55 Ай бұрын

Wish Apple would include a BTO Pro chip for the iMacs.

@isbestlizard Ай бұрын

Of course you can scale the media encoders. Tell the first to encode 0:00 to 4:59 and the second to encode 5:00 to 10:00 of your 10 minute video.

@markrome9702 Ай бұрын

Why can't Apple make the equivalent of an M6or M8 chip instead of these yearly updates? Could they do it and are just holding out so people will upgrade each year?

@imopn Ай бұрын

wonder if they will finally have wifi 7 and AV1 10bit HDR encode

@magicmanchloe 28 күн бұрын

8:27 you do realize that the ultra fusion connector as you call it is a silicon interposer? It’s not a performance issue, I mean apart from the fact that even with an interposing there is a limit things don’t scale linearly like that. What is much more likely, is that silicon enterprises are expensive and very technically challenging to manufacture. So they probably couldn’t make enough of them and even if they could, it would probably cost far too much.

@braisnovoaloira4770 Ай бұрын

Maybe, with a redesign of the ultra chip as a desktop chip with no efficiency cores, then it’ll have sense to fusion two of this new ultra chips in a new one. 2 desktop ultra chips connected together will have more sense than the actual ultra, with 2 max chips together.

@DeviIzx Ай бұрын

meanwhile we are still waiting M3 lineup refresh for all the mac models.

@RadiantandDire Ай бұрын

Snapdragon effect competition so every elite x is competing with an M4

@trippplefive Ай бұрын

snaildragon more like it

@ahaimes6320 Ай бұрын

Yes, it's sad for Qualcomm as the M4 will push ahead of the X Elite, only a few months after all the fanfare.

@sid_d_exe141 Ай бұрын

@@ahaimes6320 it's not sad for SNAPDRAGON it's designed for windows M4 is designed for mac If one wants power they will ditch both and go for x86 system

@JohnSmith-pn2vl Ай бұрын

even if the windows world would get a M! equivalent it would be a total game changer so...

@trollmaster5791 Ай бұрын

Snapdragon effect will now drive away the m4 more further now. Their top tier silicon cant even beat the base m3 and consumes more power. When snapdragon releases the 1st gen x elite, m4 will be on fighting with nvidia. Apple really wont give a damn o qualcomm. After when 2nd gen releases, then m5 or m6 will come which might possibly beat the nvidia.

@bushgreen260 Ай бұрын

*M4 Ultra would probably have two ultrafusion connections to allow at least 4x M4 Ultra chips to connect together. So you can choose between 1-4 ultra chips connected together, possibly even more.* *The single M4 ultra chip is going to be a massive die. i wonder how apple will get high yields with a chip that big.*

@MrHaydnSir Ай бұрын

i'm just waiting on the Mac Studio to move onto M3 (M4 would be insane though) before i order my next new mac so i can get back to work 😴

@kevinbeardslee7587 Ай бұрын

WWDC - Mac mini with M3 October -Mac Studio, and MacBook Pro with M4 Brava, MacBook Pro with Donan

@paclypse71 Ай бұрын

My 2017 iMac 5K is on its last legs and I was hoping to buy a new Max Mac Studio in June😬

@adredy Ай бұрын

slow ?

@paclypse71 Ай бұрын

Can’t update past Ventura and SoftRaid keeps giving me warnings that the SSD is failing.

@trevsmith5825 Ай бұрын

Apples’s M4 leaks very exciting News, can’t wait to see what’s next. Any leaks and talk about the M1, 2 and 3 not mentioned or talked much about M-series chips vulnerability fix?

@zachcouasnon5898 Ай бұрын

Sorry but NVidia isn't worried at all by this news.

@movdqa Ай бұрын

I have no need for an Ultra or an Extreme and the Max is more than enough CPU horsepower for me. What I need is 32 GB of RAM or more and support for 4 external monitors and the base M1 Studio works fine for me. Would I need an Ultra or Extreme in the future? I sincerely doubt it as Apple makes their systems faster every year. By the time I need a new Studio, it will probably be at least twice as fast. BTW, If Apple does a 27 inch iMac, I will take a hard look at it.

@tareklarbi7168 Ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏼

@N3tigen Ай бұрын

Do still we expect Apple planning MacBook SE 12inch with m2 😅. Or Apple drop this plan 😮

@apoorv_mc Ай бұрын

I hope that happens, it would be the perfect laptop

@adredy Ай бұрын

@@apoorv_mc get tablet !

@apoorv_mc Ай бұрын

@@adredy already got the ipad pro, but a laptop is a laptop

@coorbin Ай бұрын

I really hope they come out with a 16" MBP that can slot the M4 Ultra. Maybe they have to downclock it for thermals but that would still be sick.

@jinraigami3349 Ай бұрын

I no longer watch rumor videos, but M4 Extreme is just too good to miss out.

@markgriffin2285 Ай бұрын

Do I understand correctly that to get the benefits of the M4 Chips, you need to purchase a Mac? And, seeing that you need to purchase a Mac, means that you are limited to using Apple Software. If Apple thinks their chips are such "Hot Stuff", than why not build a PC that can operate Microsoft Windows Operating System and Windows compatible programs? Or, is there a problem in competing with Intel and AMD? Does anyone have an answer to these questions?

@sjsltd4389 Ай бұрын

Just bought a 16 inch MacBook Pro M3 Pro for 2450 Canadian. Was going to sell for 3k and grab an M3 Max for 4000 canadian so essentially into an M3 Max for 3450. But you are saying hold off on buying the M3 Max (which means wouldn’t sell my M3 Pro) and wait for the M4 to drop ? Could easily sell the M3 Pro for 2 k and not lose all that much.

@yagoa Ай бұрын

3rd time we get the same arguments...

@aryaguehrs Ай бұрын

tim : c'mon gaymer buy our m4 pro ultra extra max plus xxl its just $9999

@logtothebase2 Күн бұрын

I think Apple should drop the increment to the chip nomenclature, like Intel did with there i line of processors, and BMW did with its XXX series of cars, you could buy a BMW 320 in 1990, and 2000 but it was completely different car, just built for the same customer. So M1 is low power M2 is desktop M3 is workstation, maybe with an M0 for extreme low power high endurance, then just refresh the line and new Nodes come available.