Appropriation of Icons: Whose Netaji? Whose Tagore? | India Today Conclave East 2021

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Swapan Dasgupta, Member of Parliament; Dr Sugata Bose, Historian, Former Member of Parliament and Dr Santanu Sen, Member of Parliament, Rajya Sabha, participated in the session titled, ‘POLL POSITION: Appropriation of Icons: Whose Netaji? Whose Tagore?', at the India Today Conclave East 2021.
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@raghuramsanalkumar747
@raghuramsanalkumar747 3 жыл бұрын
Both Tagore and Bose would not stand for any divisive politics.
@284_sheersode4
@284_sheersode4 3 жыл бұрын
I can listen to Swapan Dasgupta for hours. His intellect, his gift of the gab amazes me.
@Abcd-u7d
@Abcd-u7d 3 жыл бұрын
I am amazed at how Mr Dasgupta knows little about the secular credentials of Netaji
@pratipbasu8827
@pratipbasu8827 3 жыл бұрын
On antithesis and his speech divert the core points and rarely admits the flaws which may happen what's wrong with that.
@sauron2000000
@sauron2000000 3 жыл бұрын
I would rather chant Jai Shree Ram. Thank you very much.
@datalicious43
@datalicious43 3 жыл бұрын
The important part " Hindumahasava and RSS led by Sorrykar opposed freedom fight efforts of Netaji" -- so real India knows who is the Hero and who were the traitors.
@GP12381
@GP12381 3 жыл бұрын
So did Gandhi and Congress. Your point is?
@mallikarjunangadi5598
@mallikarjunangadi5598 3 жыл бұрын
People of Karnataka worship both these icons .
@rahulghosh9528
@rahulghosh9528 3 жыл бұрын
The whole nation does .
@alivmarick4884
@alivmarick4884 3 жыл бұрын
Netaji is being misinterpreted throughout the progrrame by sugata Bose. According to new files has been released which shows that there is no information that Shishir Kumar Basu was driving away. 
@sauron2000000
@sauron2000000 3 жыл бұрын
So, what was he doing then? Was he a vile villain who conspired with devil incarnate Chacha Nehru. Our Prime Minister and President should enlighten us about newly uncovered "historical facts".
@ankitabose2139
@ankitabose2139 3 жыл бұрын
He is not being misrepresented by Sugata Bose. Although there's a cloud about Netaji's disappearance and there are still active debates and differences of opinion about this. But that doesn't mean the facts general facts he's providing about Netaji's life is wrong. And Shishir Bose not helping Netaji escape is still a speculation. So, please don't.
@godenworld
@godenworld 3 жыл бұрын
Chor Shantanu Sen sharing stage with Sugato Basu and Swapan Dasgupta is an embarrassment.
@sugatasenmazumdar7704
@sugatasenmazumdar7704 3 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY
@ass6639
@ass6639 3 жыл бұрын
Bhag it cell fake profile
@godenworld
@godenworld 3 жыл бұрын
@@friday7128 "A party full of Looteras and Thieves", however Swapan Dasgupta / Sugato Basu are neither allegedly an extortionist nor a suspected thief. Moolo if you don't know English and Spelling, it's always better to write in your mother tongue. Don't need a certificate of scoundrel Shantanu Sen from you.
@RS-gq3kr
@RS-gq3kr 3 жыл бұрын
@@friday7128 do u know sen is more famous among promoting circles than among his own community...
@1993subha
@1993subha 3 жыл бұрын
@@godenworld and the chors of TMC are absorbed by BJP only. 😂
@SKD1947
@SKD1947 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear Professor Sugata Bose 😊
@deb12337
@deb12337 3 жыл бұрын
There is one person Swapan Dasgupta I always looking for Simply outstanding Intellactual
@soumikmondal2050
@soumikmondal2050 3 жыл бұрын
He will be cm of wb in 2021
@sumedhamukherjee
@sumedhamukherjee 3 жыл бұрын
The anchor is so typical. The panel is too erudite for her.
@poopsicklebumpkins
@poopsicklebumpkins 3 жыл бұрын
kool story bro!
@kuntalgo
@kuntalgo 3 жыл бұрын
When the actual debate started, Preeti ji said "we're running out of time"
@prithudak1
@prithudak1 3 жыл бұрын
Koi Is Harvard ke Secular se pooche why there was partition of India in 1947.
@sugatasenmazumdar7704
@sugatasenmazumdar7704 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT question 😊😊😊
@sauron2000000
@sauron2000000 3 жыл бұрын
Because Superhero of Undivided India Nathuram Godse failed to stop it.
@rakhimukerji7937
@rakhimukerji7937 3 жыл бұрын
Historical reasons and two nations theory
@iamsurbhigupta77
@iamsurbhigupta77 3 жыл бұрын
Just one question: What's wrong with jai Shree ram? I really don't understand what's wrong with the chant. Shri ram is our country's historical figure. Why TF are we gluing him with only one religion. This is land of Shri ram.
@santoshbansode9823
@santoshbansode9823 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is with the people who does violence in the name of God.
@abhirupsaha
@abhirupsaha 3 жыл бұрын
Problem is with people chanting Jai Shri Ram after lynching a person. Do you think Lord Ram would have supported that.? Problem is with people like you who are blind to certain facts.
@iamsurbhigupta77
@iamsurbhigupta77 3 жыл бұрын
@@santoshbansode9823 who did? Yesterday Rinku Sharma? Or Kamlesh Tiwari or who? I'll love to read.
@abhirupsaha
@abhirupsaha 3 жыл бұрын
And if you watch the video Swapan Dasgupta fiddling with his phone while Sugata Bose calls chanting of Jai Shri Ram outside Netaji Bhavan and inside Victoria Hall premises inappropriate shows what kind of jerks BJP Is made up of.
@iamsurbhigupta77
@iamsurbhigupta77 3 жыл бұрын
@@abhirupsaha do u know abt dhimmi?
@PB-hf9of
@PB-hf9of 3 жыл бұрын
While mr Bose said Subhas’s aspirations was equality in human, Hindu, Muslim, men women etc., one of such task was pending for long, give the equal right to the Muslim women that a Hindu or Christian women has in India , so he should have appreciated the govt. to take up this job, that would have been a appropriate for a descendant of great subhas bose!
@sauron2000000
@sauron2000000 3 жыл бұрын
Well, we shall never know. So, everything you say is mere speculation.
@ass6639
@ass6639 3 жыл бұрын
BJP talking abt netaji lol
@RS-gq3kr
@RS-gq3kr 3 жыл бұрын
Tolabaj sen speaking on behalf her master's voice....ha ha ha
@soumitrahazra7451
@soumitrahazra7451 3 жыл бұрын
@@krishnendubasu2879 yes..he is tolabaz..all tmc
@soumitrahazra7451
@soumitrahazra7451 3 жыл бұрын
@@krishnendubasu2879 achha tmc tar tolabaz der official documents kare rakhbe...bah bah..bes valo jai bangl...bangalr garbo mamata
@sabyasachirimpa
@sabyasachirimpa 3 жыл бұрын
@@soumitrahazra7451 electoral bonds baazi of BJPee😂
@debdulalmisra4506
@debdulalmisra4506 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Sen seems to have not caught the very essence of the discussion.
@mohammedyaseruddinfaisal7320
@mohammedyaseruddinfaisal7320 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your views but you are not fit to judge any religious faith and cultural aspects at any point
@binapanibahadur1734
@binapanibahadur1734 3 жыл бұрын
hello!!!! he is the prime minister of india. it doesnt suit the caliber.a prime minister is giving speech not knowing the proper info about these personalities and allow the yellings of some discriminant and you are telling wrong right!!!!
@sufaldas3582
@sufaldas3582 3 жыл бұрын
If I start to write the wrong informations pisi said about Indian legends then I don't know when I'll be able to end.. Though I'm not supporting the wrong information told by member of bjp. Where's job in wb.. Schemes is for temporary management, schemes can't be a good thing for permanent stability. Free ration.. People of wb knows about this. Sastho sathi can't be practical.. Wb government doesn't have that much money for health department. A government should create financial stability, any citizen don't want free anything. Why any government will give beg to people.. What tmc government think... People of wb is beggar.. . Mamata banerjee said she want four capitals in nation, that kind of politician she is.. Four capitals means what... She want to break our country.. Indians doesn't like dividing country in past and in future also true Indians don't want that. People know.. staying together is staying powerful rather than breaking in parts and become weak. India already broke in past for silly reason and that weakened India and Indians already and that's why India and Indians doesn't want that again. We all knew.. In a big sized country developments would happen faster easily compared to a small sized country for various reasons, size matters in this point. Fact, Not just small leaders.. Lots of big leaders of tmc leave and now they're admitted tmc is corrupted. Question, Mamata doesn't take salary then how she bought 35 plots in kalighat, kolkata.. .
@binapanibahadur1734
@binapanibahadur1734 3 жыл бұрын
@@sufaldas3582 apt.
@sufaldas3582
@sufaldas3582 3 жыл бұрын
@@binapanibahadur1734 what's apt..
@binapanibahadur1734
@binapanibahadur1734 3 жыл бұрын
@@sufaldas3582 means your point is appropriate.i am not a supporter of the CM if she is going through the same way.as here this all about that day.from that references our prime minister has done a great blunder.and i think you are at the same conclusion.isn't it???????
@sufaldas3582
@sufaldas3582 3 жыл бұрын
@@binapanibahadur1734 not really, what blunder pm done..
@ass6639
@ass6639 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Santanu Sen you did a very good job exposing chaddis
@arijitdey8365
@arijitdey8365 3 жыл бұрын
Really!!
@stubborn176
@stubborn176 3 жыл бұрын
Neither Netaji nor Tagore did supported partition of India, in fact the slogan #JaiHind have been popularized by Netaji, not any prticular province of Bharatbarsh.
@1993subha
@1993subha 3 жыл бұрын
@@stubborn176 Both the icons were deadly against the bigotry of Hindutva and polarization in the society.
@stubborn176
@stubborn176 3 жыл бұрын
@@1993subha As my ideals are Netaji and Swami Vivekananda I also don't support polarization and discrimination but is it bad to keep my ancestors culture alive unti it doesn't hurts anyone? Btw what is hindutwa? It's doesn't matters what you name but everyone's 'dharma'(duty) is to protect own 'dharma'(culture). The term 'bigot' is inappropriate here. You should call them bigot who kills people in name of religion and those who have broken the nation in name of religion, those who says 'upon removal of the security forces 30% is able to take care of the rest 70%'.
@notumotu
@notumotu 3 жыл бұрын
Sugata Bose a grandfather advocated ‘Greater Bengal’. He has a radical Pakistani wife He has now appropriated Netaji legacy
@mukherjeerough
@mukherjeerough 3 жыл бұрын
what on gods green earth is a "Radical secularist"?!
@sauron2000000
@sauron2000000 3 жыл бұрын
Muslim.
@mukherjeerough
@mukherjeerough 3 жыл бұрын
@@sauron2000000 sir, aap akhand chutiye hain
@kamaldutta6924
@kamaldutta6924 3 жыл бұрын
This anchor is partial and disturbing....does not allow non party expert to put forth view...kd
@sauron2000000
@sauron2000000 3 жыл бұрын
What non party expert?
@1993subha
@1993subha 3 жыл бұрын
And Saffron cows are coming and eating those grasses.
@stubborn176
@stubborn176 3 жыл бұрын
Neither Netaji nor Tagore did supported partition of India, in fact the slogan #JaiHind have been popularized by Netaji, not any prticular province of Bharatbarsh.
@1993subha
@1993subha 3 жыл бұрын
@@stubborn176 Moreover, both the icons were deadly against the bigotry of Hindutva. And partition was just bcz of Savarkar who formed Govt with Muslim League in Sindh. Netaji and Tagore both were against the polarisation which was the dark agenda of ML and HM.
@stubborn176
@stubborn176 3 жыл бұрын
@@1993subha 1. Idea of partition of India had first introduced around the year of 1888, Vir Savarkar was born in the year of 1883, only 5 years earlier. 2. All India muslim league shifted to ta demand for partition of India after 1940, when did savarkar made coalition? Give some authentic historical references, not any agenda journalist's opinion. 3. Partition was finalized and accepted by the leaders of the largest political party of the time because of incidents happened in noakhali, Calcutta, amritsar, Hyderabad and many more places.
@devshabong5868
@devshabong5868 3 жыл бұрын
Swapan Das reasonable man, he is capable of serving bengal insted of mamta begum
@1993subha
@1993subha 3 жыл бұрын
Swapan is a bigot moron. These people from Hindu Mahasabha are worthless since the pre-indepenence. Still Mamta has some greatness .. she can fight .. where Modi spews only Jumla and fake news. Rethink.
@suchita52
@suchita52 3 жыл бұрын
Who grass root workers appointed till now in Rajya Sabha?!? Don’t talk big & find scapegoats
@arijitdey8365
@arijitdey8365 3 жыл бұрын
Why did they invited that adulating doctor! He knows nothing but boot licking! Shame on him! And as far as appropriation of icons is concerned, BJP,TMC,INC everybody do that. And that also in a very ludicrous and insulting way.
@SG-wh5oo
@SG-wh5oo 3 жыл бұрын
'Jai shree ram' is not a religious slogan in WB. It's a politcal slogan of BJP and everyone knows that.
@sufaldas3582
@sufaldas3582 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't agree with you. India is one, wb is part of India.. With time mr. Ram is became hindu religious character. Joy sree ram and joy bangla both slogans on that day was inappropriate. Those people who chants jay sree ram.. They done wrong thing and against of this didi also done wrong thing as she said her party's slogan joy bangla. Murder is a crime and murder against murder is also crime. Where's job in wb.. Schemes is for temporary management, schemes can't be a good thing for permanent stability. Free ration.. People of wb knows about this. Sastho sathi can't be practical.. Wb government doesn't have that much money for health department. A government should create financial stability, any citizen don't want free anything. Why any government will give beg to people.. What tmc government think... People of wb is beggar.. . Mamata banerjee said she want four capitals in nation, that kind of politician she is.. Four capitals means what... She want to break our country.. Indians doesn't like dividing country in past and in future also true Indians don't want that. People know.. staying together is staying powerful rather than breaking in parts and become weak. India already broke in past for silly reason and that weakened India and Indians already and that's why India and Indians doesn't want that again. We all knew.. In a big sized country developments would happen faster easily compared to a small sized country for various reasons, size matters in this point. Fact, Not just small leaders.. Lots of big leaders of tmc leave and now they're admitted tmc is corrupted. Question, Mamata doesn't take salary then how she bought 35 plots in kalighat, kolkata.. .
@binapanibahadur1734
@binapanibahadur1734 3 жыл бұрын
the sudden love for netaji and celebrating in a humilating way is in the one side which is very inapropriate and wrong.on the other hand if your love was really geiune then you would disclose one file of netaji and would present it front of the mob.i think that would be the proper homage to this great freedom fighter.rather you guys have made a blunder and still talking shamelessly.shame on you.shame shame!!!!
@RS-gq3kr
@RS-gq3kr 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it shameful that u r concerned about declassification of files only for last 10 yrs n u forgot it for 60 yrs before that 10 yrs.... wonderful man!!!
@binapanibahadur1734
@binapanibahadur1734 3 жыл бұрын
This is the problem of the truth.when anyone says the truth some group of hypocrite stand against them same as the chowkidar of this country does.Ok.fine.now tell me as an indian do you support that BLUNDER happened at that national programme. Yes or No????
@sufaldas3582
@sufaldas3582 3 жыл бұрын
Joy sree ram and joy bangla both slogans on that day was inappropriate. Those people who chants jay sree ram.. They done wrong thing and against of this didi also done wrong thing as she said her party's slogan joy bangla. Murder is a crime and murder against murder is also crime. Where's job in wb.. Schemes is for temporary management, schemes can't be a good thing for permanent stability. Free ration.. People of wb knows about this. Sastho sathi can't be practical.. Wb government doesn't have that much money for health department. A government should create financial stability, any citizen don't want free anything. Why any government will give beg to people.. What tmc government think... People of wb is beggar.. . Mamata banerjee said she want four capitals in nation, that kind of politician she is.. Four capitals means what... She want to break our country.. Indians doesn't like dividing country in past and in future also true Indians don't want that. People know.. staying together is staying powerful rather than breaking in parts and become weak. India already broke in past for silly reason and that weakened India and Indians already and that's why India and Indians doesn't want that again. We all knew.. In a big sized country developments would happen faster easily compared to a small sized country for various reasons, size matters in this point. Fact, Not just small leaders.. Lots of big leaders of tmc leave and now they're admitted tmc is corrupted. Question, Mamata doesn't take salary then how she bought 35 plots in kalighat, kolkata.. .
@pratipbasu8827
@pratipbasu8827 3 жыл бұрын
Skirmish tone should be apolitical. One should have guts to put forward the same ground for other leaders son/ and siblings also. Let forget those blame game for some time. Broad mind set up would reveal that West Bengal is gaining lot of potential and attention now a days from both BJP & TMC atleast after a lapse of 30/ 35 years of reckoning as a neglected State. Let us hope these promises would be a reality. Jail Hind.
@sufaldas3582
@sufaldas3582 3 жыл бұрын
@@pratipbasu8827 unfortunately you write the 2nd last word wrongly. joy hind.
@rijuroy2379
@rijuroy2379 3 жыл бұрын
She didn't told four capital se told alternatively rotating four capital **that's make every corner of country equal importance
@rijuroy2379
@rijuroy2379 3 жыл бұрын
Arjun Singh & mukul Roy seem to be good to you ? 😂😂😂😂In indian politics every one is same power is everything ** & making people foolish is the goal of them**
@sufaldas3582
@sufaldas3582 3 жыл бұрын
@@rijuroy2379 first of all, I didn't heard rotation word from pisi. 2nd, I don't agree with you, even if I take your word then still its a pathetic idea theoretical and practical in both ways. By importance what you meant.. Important to whom... If your answer is media then I'd say the issue of yours is fault of media.. Not fault of only one capital of country. India is a single nation after all so India should have only one capital for sure. India should have one capital coz India is one. Btw, after such comment from pisi.. What is The reaction of bangladesh the person like you should follow and aware of it.
@ISF7860
@ISF7860 3 жыл бұрын
Santanu ki class 5 e podchhe .?? একে কোনো দিন জনগণ ভোট দিয়ে নির্বাচিত করবে না এ কথা বুঝেই কি মমতা বন্দ্যোপাধ্যায় রাজ্য সভায় এমপি করলেন ..?
@sauron2000000
@sauron2000000 3 жыл бұрын
Se to Dinesh Trivedi keo Mamata Rajya Sabhay pathiyechilo.
@prodhansreflection...1804
@prodhansreflection...1804 3 жыл бұрын
Tmc chi chi
@kovusi5806
@kovusi5806 3 жыл бұрын
BJP, leave our country, please! Let us live happily, freely
@sudiptosengupta3028
@sudiptosengupta3028 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry very soon bengali hindus have to live in refugee camps of delhi and UP just like many of our ancestors ran away from Bangladesh
@sufaldas3582
@sufaldas3582 3 жыл бұрын
Where's job in wb.. Schemes is for temporary management, schemes can't be a good thing for permanent stability. Free ration.. People of wb knows about this. Sastho sathi can't be practical.. Wb government doesn't have that much money for health department. A government should create financial stability, any citizen don't want free anything. Why any government will give beg to people.. What tmc government think... People of wb is beggar.. . Mamata banerjee said she want four capitals in nation, that kind of politician she is.. Four capitals means what... She want to break our country.. Indians doesn't like dividing country in past and in future also true Indians don't want that. People know.. staying together is staying powerful rather than breaking in parts and become weak. India already broke in past for silly reason and that weakened India and Indians already and that's why India and Indians doesn't want that again. We all knew.. In a big sized country developments would happen faster easily compared to a small sized country for various reasons, size matters in this point. Fact, Not just small leaders.. Lots of big leaders of tmc leave and now they're admitted tmc is corrupted. Question, Mamata doesn't take salary then how she bought 35 plots in kalighat, kolkata.. . Corrupted tmc private limited company can't live happily and freely for sure.
@sugatasenmazumdar7704
@sugatasenmazumdar7704 3 жыл бұрын
@@sudiptosengupta3028 Very well said
@sauron2000000
@sauron2000000 3 жыл бұрын
@@sudiptosengupta3028 Liton Das and Soumya Sarkar agree with you.
@RS-gq3kr
@RS-gq3kr 3 жыл бұрын
I suppose Bjp rules India...not Bangladesh...😎
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