Aptera Alpha Development Vehicle | Jay Leno's Garage

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2 жыл бұрын

If you really want to save energy and make a truly efficient vehicle, it can’t look like anything else on the road-and that’s the Aptera. The new Aptera electric-solar hybrid offers unique styling and really unique performance-it gets 1000 miles per charge, and they claim the solar panels make it so you never even need to charge it!
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@Webcrawler45
@Webcrawler45 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered a a 40kWh (400 mile) version with full solar, tent and AWD. As an engineer I appreciate the design and I also like their stance on the right to repair. They believe the owner deserves the right to get parts and make repairs themselves. This helps with a startup as they can’t immediately hav repair centers everywhere.
@OneAdam12Adam
@OneAdam12Adam 2 жыл бұрын
We need to resist the Chinese invasion of EVs! Yes!
@jollygoodbeard13
@jollygoodbeard13 2 жыл бұрын
So how much was it for all that more or less than a Tesla
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 жыл бұрын
@@jollygoodbeard13 The 250 mile range version starts at $25,900, and uses dramatically less energy than a Tesla, while offering thrilling acceleration and handing - I got a ride in the Luna prototype two weeks ago Tuesday
@jollygoodbeard13
@jollygoodbeard13 2 жыл бұрын
@@n.brucenelson5920 wow that’s not bad at all way cheaper than a Tesla and it self charges..and it looks cool a futuristic ..I wonder why Tesla can’t do self charging..
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 жыл бұрын
@@jollygoodbeard13 Tesla uses much more power to travel a mile than the under 100 watt hours the Aptera does at EPA highway speeds. We may see limited charging on the Cybertruck, but the overall rate of consumption is so much higher that it is less useful.
@gryfandjane
@gryfandjane 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Aptera succeed. I was smitten with their design at first sight.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
17 years now and not a single working vehicle delivered... Aptera is obviously a vaporware scam.
@caroad2008
@caroad2008 2 жыл бұрын
No that was airbrake. A secondary safety feature in testing.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Aptera delays production again... it is very obvious that the company is a just another scam.
@ojomaze7777
@ojomaze7777 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 ...lol
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@ojomaze7777 yeah, Aptera is a joke.
@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind
@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind Жыл бұрын
I admire their tenacity for sticking with it.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Жыл бұрын
There is a sucker born every minute.. that is how a investment scam like Aptera has stayed running for over 17 years.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 10 ай бұрын
NBC News exposes Aptera as a fake
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 5 ай бұрын
Well it's 2024 and Aptera has still reached production... it is looking more and more like a big scam.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 5 күн бұрын
*_Crowdfund Insider_** issues warning to Aptera investors.*
@krrk6337
@krrk6337 2 жыл бұрын
This is what people in the 60s think of cars in 2020's would have looked like.
@kevinm9
@kevinm9 2 жыл бұрын
What's funny is this is our future
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinm9 Aptera is not the future... they have been running the same vaporware scam for 17 years now.
@danielbtzibur8637
@danielbtzibur8637 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 And who is paying you to spend all your time here?
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielbtzibur8637 The TRUTH is available completely free of charge... I'm not selling or making false promises.
@lads.7715
@lads.7715 2 жыл бұрын
Jane will go shopping in it while Rosie feeds Astro and vacuums.
@deanmcmanis9398
@deanmcmanis9398 2 жыл бұрын
I'm one of those guys who fell in love with the Aptera. I pre-ordered mine with the 40kW/400mile range, AWD (0-60 in 3.5 sec), full solar (40mi/day with good sun). On top of the Aptera's original styling, and performance, it should cost almost nothing to drive daily. Thanks Jay for featuring the reborn Aptera. I look forward to hearing your impressions of the production model next year.
@jamesdellaneve9005
@jamesdellaneve9005 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@susanpate
@susanpate 2 жыл бұрын
As a 73 yo, I have also ordered about the same as Dean - but with the tent. :) I do NOT want to be a polluter and this fills the bill. And is affordable unlike the Tesla.
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 2 жыл бұрын
The original was more polished. This one is too gimmicky. I seriously doubt it will ever go into production. The original on Jay Leno: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hdiBpKZ9t77QYqs.html
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 жыл бұрын
This is thevsecond alpha prototype. The original was production ready. The betas builds will be much changed
@deanmcmanis9398
@deanmcmanis9398 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBandit7613 The original Aptera was ground breaking for its time. But the reborn Aptera includes the technical advances of the last 10 years. From wheel motors, to more advanced batteries, to the software and control systems, to the cooling, to the solar panels. Production is to begin early next year. I am betting (with my wallet) that Aptera succeeds this time.
@aaronknight1009
@aaronknight1009 2 жыл бұрын
I love it. As I near retirement, this is all I'd ever need for local driving. Never having to charge is a huge feature
@artsmith103
@artsmith103 2 жыл бұрын
Even if you only got half your daily drive via solar, that doubles the range of the battery. So 200 mile battery would go 400 miles and if were driving 20 miles/day, that's 20 days between charges. 20 kWh will take ~16hrs.
@ehuckleberry
@ehuckleberry 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice he wants the vehicle to be fish like, but also be very ephishent!!
@rudra.patel.001
@rudra.patel.001 2 жыл бұрын
@@ehuckleberry don't you mean e-fish-ent? I'll see myself out.
@mirthenemrys
@mirthenemrys 2 жыл бұрын
My mother coulda used something like this, but she gave up driving in the last year or so. She lives around Las Vegas, which of course gets more then enough sun for a car like this. With how little she was driving before covid hit, would have been always full batteries. Just leave it outside after you are done driving around, and pull it in the garage the next day with around a full charge.
@Okurka.
@Okurka. 2 жыл бұрын
Get a bicycle, it helps to keep you fit.
@TCKe
@TCKe 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone made something sustainable fun and afordable!
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Aptera has made nothing but false promises for 17 years... if it sounds too good to be true? It is...
@cosmoray9750
@cosmoray9750 Жыл бұрын
That is the problem....." We were looking for Department Of Energy loan ". Most of these companies runs to the government for money. They think the tax payers are a endless pit of money. If the company can stay alive on its own then it is not a viable company. The government is there to govern. The government isn't there to provide loans. When companies runs to the Gov for loans ...aka sometime it is called corporate welfare, it is called Socialism. When companies runs to the banks or private investment ...aka IPO or crowdfunding. It is called Capitalism. What we have today is these companies running to the Gov for money to fund their ventures and that is not right. We don't need anymore of these too big to fail companies.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Жыл бұрын
Aptera has made nothing.. nothing accept false promises for over 17 years.
@did_I_hurt_your_fee_fees
@did_I_hurt_your_fee_fees Жыл бұрын
And ugly and dangerous.
@did_I_hurt_your_fee_fees
@did_I_hurt_your_fee_fees Жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 I hope they fail because I don't want to be forced to have to be seen in something this lame looking. Can't they at least make it look good? I don't need something from the Jetsons. I want something that looks nice. Just my opinion. This also looks horrifyingly dangerous. One high speed collision (assuming it can go more than 20 mph) and you're toast.
@sirkildalot8409
@sirkildalot8409 2 жыл бұрын
Was just ranting with my cousin today about all of the 2.5 tonne SUV’s driving around with one person in it then saw this. Ordered mine. I hope they succeed. 🙏
@thevet2009
@thevet2009 4 ай бұрын
I'll stick with my truck too...like your cuz...safety first!
@Solkre82
@Solkre82 3 ай бұрын
I'll have to see the safety rating. I'm not dying for the cause, and I've had 4 EVs.
@Okurka.
@Okurka. Ай бұрын
Those 2.5 ton SUVs are narrower than this three-wheeler.
@markdc1145
@markdc1145 2 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see a new EV that isn't another 2-ton box. Great vehicle for CA and FL.
@teslaowner9020
@teslaowner9020 2 жыл бұрын
These are Beach/Desert runners
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Its too bad this company reeks of vaporware scam like Nikola, Lordstown and Canoo.
@bitkarek
@bitkarek 2 жыл бұрын
this is really what scifi movies imagined back in the days.
@davidmaddon554
@davidmaddon554 2 жыл бұрын
Well we did not get the 1950s atomic car we were promised but we did get a nuclear powered car.
@paulrybarczyk5013
@paulrybarczyk5013 2 жыл бұрын
Appropriately, the first version of the Aptera was briefly featured in the 2009 Star Trek movie.
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidmaddon554 What nuclear powered car are you referring to? The only one I’m aware of is Fords design concept that never went into production (and was never likely to) so saying “we got it,” is a bit of a stretch.
@grrwuff4099
@grrwuff4099 2 жыл бұрын
... and now people are ready to accept the uniqueness, with households of 1,5 and online commerce. With a large flexible load bay, towing a trailer is not a necessity... And independence of electrical grid even better (with greedy suppliers and 'social scoring' politicains to cut the 'juice' at free will in the future...). KUTGW guys... 👍🚙
@davidmaddon554
@davidmaddon554 2 жыл бұрын
@@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 none ever can't be produced. We were promised atomic cars in the 50s and 60s. The nuclear-powered car soon to being produced now is the Aptera. Where do you think sunlight comes from? 😉 😜
@godchi1dvonsteuben770
@godchi1dvonsteuben770 2 жыл бұрын
These guys know their stuff. These are the type of people that The Big Three need to seek out, and employee. I'm glad these two are developing vehicles for the future, they have their heads on straight, and their engineering is impeccable.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the world really needs more crooks like Chris and Steve.
@thomaslewis7883
@thomaslewis7883 2 жыл бұрын
If Aptera can deliver a functioning ,comfortable reliable vehicle at a realistic price point,they could sell them in the numbers needed to make Aptera a viable option for those people that commute,do a lot of outdoor activity or just want to step into the future while saving a lot of money on fuel costs. I wish them all the best.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
APTERA has delivered nothing but false promises and vaporware for over 16 years..
@loftsatsympaticodotc
@loftsatsympaticodotc Жыл бұрын
...AND help the planet with ZERO GHG generated, reduce pollution and grid energy costs AND electricity transportation costs.and improve the quality of life for EVERYONE. we can get even 10 miles a day charge, I'd be a happy camper. as somedays we work from home all day.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 11 ай бұрын
​@@loftsatsympaticodotcAptera produces millions of tons of hot air. But no vehicles.. Classic vaporware scam
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 10 ай бұрын
Aptera gutted by recent NBC News story...
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 5 ай бұрын
It's 2024 now and Aptera has missed another promised production deadline.. it is obviously a scam.
@bradchoi9679
@bradchoi9679 2 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed by how the aerodynamics cuts the wind noise WAY down.
@davidmaddon554
@davidmaddon554 2 жыл бұрын
And the motors are not in the car so it even quieter.
@janmartens7954
@janmartens7954 2 жыл бұрын
First thing that I noticed, the way we hear the host rambling :)
@Angelum_Band
@Angelum_Band 2 жыл бұрын
I have been impressed by aerodynamics since the Wright brothers.
@mrennick
@mrennick 2 жыл бұрын
Noise is waste and they have trimmed a ton of waste.
@SvenDansk7
@SvenDansk7 2 жыл бұрын
The difference in wind noise from my 65 Ford truck to my 01 Honda Insight is amazing. Taking it full morelli and electric has got to be fantastic. Only the sound of tires squealing around the corners!
@RCCrawlerz209
@RCCrawlerz209 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely looks like something, people in the 50s dreamed up, when they dreamed of flying cars. Definitely looks kinda retro.
@user-jz3vc9kd2j
@user-jz3vc9kd2j 2 жыл бұрын
Fyi....we have had an FAA approved flying car for the past few years. The terrafugia. A few of them out there and in use.
@RCCrawlerz209
@RCCrawlerz209 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-jz3vc9kd2j ok 👍🏻
@SvenDansk7
@SvenDansk7 2 жыл бұрын
Paul Jaray and Wunibald Kamm would be drooling-that's for sure!
@MrThunderMonky
@MrThunderMonky 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the fact that you dont have to plug it in. as a person who lived in a LOT of apartments and now a townhome with no garage. plugging in for millions of americans is just not a realistic option. so I think this is great
@qaz9258
@qaz9258 2 жыл бұрын
Throw your long extension cord out over the balcony to plug in the car. Only to find in the morning some homeless man charging his phone with a line behind him.😅
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
You have to be very gullible to believe a solar car is a "realistic option"
@incan87
@incan87 2 жыл бұрын
@@qaz9258 neighbors would connect their extension cords to power their window ac units and battery packs overnight
@artsmith103
@artsmith103 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think their miles/day via solar are real. I think they deliberately didn't derate the panels to correspond to the real angle to the sun. I suggest divide their mileage by 2.
@JohnDoe-zj6xf
@JohnDoe-zj6xf 2 жыл бұрын
@@artsmith103 full day sun gives 20 miles of range that's reasonable.
@CommonBovine
@CommonBovine 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Jay uses the entire road when he's driving! 👍
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Jay's not actually driving... according to Aptera representative Rev. Bruce Nelson the Alpha version is actually fully autonomous... Aptera had hoped to use a Lidar scanner for autonomous driving but opted for a much cheaper system that uses contact sensors... they're still having alot of collisions but hope to have it sorted out by the time production starts in 2029.
@ianmullin6227
@ianmullin6227 2 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this comment lol
@rogue13131313
@rogue13131313 2 жыл бұрын
It's mandatory to drive like that at Jay's age.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@rogue13131313 Most Aptera pre-order holders are senior citizens and will benefit from the autonomous driving system.
@AMomcilo1
@AMomcilo1 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy that the Aptera company came back, I was sad when they closed down the first time. Such a cool concept.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Thats what fake companies like Aptera do.. They take people's money and then close.
@user-zy3nv1jy1m
@user-zy3nv1jy1m 2 жыл бұрын
Sad? get a life, Aleks.
@SvenDansk7
@SvenDansk7 2 жыл бұрын
One of the very few truly unique offerings in the modern automotive landscape. I wanted one then and I want one now! Hopefully the price is low enough.
@CitroenDS23
@CitroenDS23 2 жыл бұрын
I see the carbon energy shills are still resisting the inevitable. I find it ironic that the car that won the energy competition and the funds has not been heard from since. The design philosophy of the Aptera is not new - but very few companies have the cojones to initiate change. Go Aptera!!
@SvenDansk7
@SvenDansk7 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Spoken like someone who's never tried anything difficult. Go challenge yourself and you'll develop empathy for others. This isn't the Dale...
@evflyguy
@evflyguy 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to get mine! Reserved because I love the look (not the coloring on this prototype), the range, the performance, and most importantly... the price!
@RandomAssaultPodcast
@RandomAssaultPodcast 2 жыл бұрын
1000 mile charge for like 50K is insane, I bought a used 2019 Chevy Bolt for 30K and it only does 250 or so (which will still get you about 2 or so hours, but still)
@DHT2023
@DHT2023 2 жыл бұрын
Same , but reserved the 1000 mile range version. I was a couple days too late to reserve the $25,000 version. Black looks way nicer!
@mariano7699
@mariano7699 2 жыл бұрын
@@DHT2023 : 🍊 🟧 📙 ✴ 🟠 🔸️ much nicer ♥ it
@skipondowntheroad5833
@skipondowntheroad5833 2 жыл бұрын
@@RandomAssaultPodcast But you can toast marshmallows over your Bolt.
@RandomAssaultPodcast
@RandomAssaultPodcast 2 жыл бұрын
@@skipondowntheroad5833 those s'mores came out great
@qaz9258
@qaz9258 2 жыл бұрын
This has many selling points on every level. You could theoretically buy this and have no more cost . The insurance should be less. The "refueling" will could be non existent but for sure less. He talks about upgrade possibilities as tech progresses so if you want different more efficient solar panels when they are invented thats swappable. With the 3 wheel drive... well even with the 2 you could go to the beach and not worry about getting stuck in the soft sand and camp over night. (always check your high tide schedules)
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Aptera definitely sounds too good to be true... Thats because it's a scam.
@qaz9258
@qaz9258 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 I would like to see some substantiation behind your claim. Always willing to hear legitimate claims from all angles. From those that have something to offer that is.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@qaz9258 All you need to do is look at the scandalous history of Aptera... It may seem like a legitimate company at a casual glance, but dig a little deeper and you will find very little factual evidence to support that the company is legit. The truth is anyone can build a few prototypes as props and make claims that they are going to build 40 vehicles per day. The problem is there is no evidence to support those claims. Any questions?
@qaz9258
@qaz9258 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 I read the article from Forbes Magazine. See multiple videos regarding this car and company. And have not once seen any claim of fraud or scam. Your voice is a tiny little squeak in the roar of humankind. If you really are interested in helping others and this really is a scam, then you might add some weight to your claim by including the source that you may have gotten this from. You possibly should have led with that. You might want to post your sources please, before making accusations. It is a path of wisdom
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@qaz9258 Thats what they said about Nikola, Lordstown and Canoo.... Forbes magazine printed a glowing review of Solydra too... its was personally endorced by President Obama. All sounds great when thw company is launched, the news media doesn't bother the report the details... and qhen they do? They usually get it wrong. Jay Leno did not select Aptera to review, he was forced to review Aptera by the production company.
@ASkippingRock
@ASkippingRock 2 жыл бұрын
I live in a rural area with a short commute. This would be incredibly stress reducing vs a car. No gas, less repairs, less expensive to purchase. I just hope they develop a removable roof rack so I can move a couple of kayaks. I currently drive a 2007 Dodge Charger SRT8. Never again, far to expensive to run and repair.
@Okurka.
@Okurka. 2 жыл бұрын
Get a golf cart or a bicycle.
@marvellous9652
@marvellous9652 2 жыл бұрын
@@Okurka. Golf carts are not street legal, and bikes are dangerous to ride on many roads, especially in the US.
@Okurka.
@Okurka. 2 жыл бұрын
@@marvellous9652 How is that possible in the greatest country in the world?
@timothykeith1367
@timothykeith1367 2 жыл бұрын
It would be stress-free until hit by an F350. I still like it. Mork from Ork arrived in something like this
@markharmon4963
@markharmon4963 Жыл бұрын
I kayak too. That hatch is the best of both worlds. I could use it for my handyman trade. And a rack would help for carrying light long materials.
@likethewords
@likethewords 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciated Jay’s thoughtful questions and non-judgmental listening.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
I think its a very intertaining combination... Jay's a comedian and Aptera is a JOKE! Lol!
@brianhill4153
@brianhill4153 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 that comment is only funny is you don't spam it in all the comments.
@martylucas8557
@martylucas8557 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230, Jay’s a comedian and you’re NOT!
@rickwhite3181
@rickwhite3181 2 жыл бұрын
@@martylucas8557 Good one if you can't say something with class don't say it is what a lot of people don't understand. I give these guys a lot of credit the small companies it is so hard to get a vehicle passed through all of the tests they have to go through these guys could make a lot of money without going through this doing other things
@__-im2se
@__-im2se 2 жыл бұрын
Jay is always very polite to those who come on his show...but is seemed clear that he was (rightfully) skeptical about whether they will be able to bring this thing to market. The guys seem very engineering focused but don't really seem to have a handle on the sales side.
@timgarrett203
@timgarrett203 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure Jay realizes that hanging his hand out the window doubled the drag of the car.
@tinystar3010
@tinystar3010 2 жыл бұрын
Having the windows down period dramatically adds drag as its suck air into the interior and not smoothly allowing it to flow over the sides
@O-cDxA
@O-cDxA 2 жыл бұрын
Lol - literally ! 🤣 I remember in other videos, how he has mentioned that he hates how he can't hang his arm out the window on newer cars. Normally, he would have made a positive comment about being able to do so, ( And he would have made a comment about the window being the same on the McLaren ) but I think he really didn't want to review the car. I can't blame him. He reviewed the car once, and it flopped. I think he would rather have review the car when a few are actually delivered.
@voicetube
@voicetube 2 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@iansmith6728
@iansmith6728 2 жыл бұрын
The cameras probably did the same (until it fell off!)
@Andertheil
@Andertheil 2 жыл бұрын
@@O-cDxA may be more of a realization of a large market shift and therefore undeterministic in "norms" importance.
@artboymoy
@artboymoy 2 жыл бұрын
Funky. I like it. Crazy to have a 1000 mile range, and seems like a great option to take a trip out in the country. I really like Jay's Q and A at the start. Asking a lot of questions that people ask as well as higher tech specs. Really liked hearing the developers goals and thought process in making it as well. Not digging the wheel covers. I think I'd be losing those on curbs. Good luck guys. Hope it takes off and gets out as much as I'm seeing Polaris Slingshots in my area.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Жыл бұрын
Aptera is a total scam
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 9 ай бұрын
It's been a year and a half since APTERA missed its 11th production deadline in 19 years
@Okurka.
@Okurka. Ай бұрын
They have never tested the full range of their vehicle.
@artboymoy
@artboymoy Ай бұрын
@@Okurka. This is true, but with the power of math and science you can have a confident estimate of what the range will be. I don't know why people have a hard time with this concept.
@Okurka.
@Okurka. Ай бұрын
@@artboymoy Because the estimates given by the automotive industry are never exaggerated.
@jamesbingham1007
@jamesbingham1007 2 жыл бұрын
25:48 "Well I wish ya' luck"...awwww, the kiss of death.
@aaronlitchfield1268
@aaronlitchfield1268 2 жыл бұрын
You should put your own money into this Jay. The design is clever enough. What they basically need is you to finish it off. You, more than anyone else knows what this car needs to be successful. I've seen all your electric car videos from small companies. These guys are the real thing, and the car has serious potential. You should get into it. It'll be part of your legacy.
@DoctorZacharySmith
@DoctorZacharySmith 2 жыл бұрын
"You can still get your Big Gulp through it" - that has to be the most American criterion for window design ever.
@jeffbybee5207
@jeffbybee5207 2 жыл бұрын
That's what windows are for.
@troy3456789
@troy3456789 2 жыл бұрын
Considering 7/11's do not have drive-throughs, it was odd to me.
@jacobrzeszewski6527
@jacobrzeszewski6527 2 жыл бұрын
It was actually designed that way because of aerodynamic constraints.
@CaliMeatWagon
@CaliMeatWagon 2 жыл бұрын
That was a joke. The real reason is because the top half of the windows experience high air pressure, but you still need a window. So they made a compromise.
@eoinoconnell185
@eoinoconnell185 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaliMeatWagon It was a joke ? Who does Leno think he is, some kind of comedian ? 😂
@jorgefernandez-mv8hu
@jorgefernandez-mv8hu 2 жыл бұрын
That is a cool car. EV makers have to realize that most people live in apartments and such with limited abilities for plug in charging so a vehicle that can charge itself while you are at work or whatever makes alot of sense. Hope it works out.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
According to Aptera representative Rev Bruce Nelson its not a car. Its a lifestyle activity transportation concept. Cars are meant to be practical vehicles for moving people and their belongings reliability from any point to any destination by road. The beta version will have a Diesel generator to charge the batteries because as we all know solar power does not work at night or in the shade of city buildings. If you are really interested in a vehicle that never needs charging check out *Elio Motors* The Elio is a much better design and they are actually starting production right now, Aptera is still in the early prototype stage and won't start production for at least 4 years and there is already a 17 year backlog of orders.
@charlesangell_bulmtl
@charlesangell_bulmtl Жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 I totally agree ... Achates style diesel and skip the BS batteries, series hybrid as tech as an electromotive should be ...👍
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 5 ай бұрын
Well it's 2024 and there is still absolutely nothing happening at Aptera.
@amrak-8401
@amrak-8401 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I lost this EV car because I never heard from them for a while now it’s back?! It’s beautiful! It would be awesome if you have solar panels all over the body option.
@pedromartins2909
@pedromartins2909 Жыл бұрын
There is now the option to cover the top in full, as in trunk, hood and roof.
@realityhitsmehardbro
@realityhitsmehardbro 2 жыл бұрын
I have never before heard the birds chirping on JLG when he goes on a test drive.
@peterjorgensen3
@peterjorgensen3 2 жыл бұрын
Open windows with birds chirping. Wow.
@ICKY427
@ICKY427 2 жыл бұрын
i really wish these guys the best. we NEED to get cars like this more mainstream. for many reasons.
@bradsmith9189
@bradsmith9189 2 жыл бұрын
God help us if these wussy cars ever get forced on us. Nerd vehicle.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
I think we have proven with the Vokswagen L1 that this is definitely not a mainstream concept...
@danielbtzibur8637
@danielbtzibur8637 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 It is more difficult to develop a mainstream concept. For that You need to start doing what Elon Musk is doing. Very distressing work.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielbtzibur8637 Elon Musk stole the concept from the original company founders, not that battery electric cars are new, they have been around for over 100 years. What Musk is doing is more financial than engineering, Tesla vehicles are actually very poorly made for the price.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 11 ай бұрын
Another year of false promises and no vehicles... Chris and Steve are lying crooks.
@loucipher6839
@loucipher6839 Жыл бұрын
jay lenos that family member everyone loves but never met, watched his shows with my mom (r.i.p.) since i was a kid back in the lates 70’s (damn am i that old 🤔) great to see hes still with us in 2022 💪
@taotao98103
@taotao98103 Жыл бұрын
I like Jay being very straight forward. Willing to ask questions about the negative sides.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Жыл бұрын
Jay has been burned by alot of scams like Aptera... this company has a very dubious reputation and has been fleecing gullible investors for over 18 years now.
@SIMKINETICS
@SIMKINETICS 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen many original and unusual concepts since seeing the first Corvette prototype at a pre-release viewing at the 1952 GM Autorama as a kid (my dad was a manager at GM); that turned into a very successful brand. That event made me a car nut who always followed the cool new developments and innovative headliners that rarely ever saw the light of day as real products that lasted. The Aptera seemed like a potential exception a dozen years ago, and then disappeared. It's fantastic seeing it back! With a few minor warts, it has beautiful lines that just might catch on! Additionally, the creators seem to have a firm grasp on making a dramatically novel design very practical! As a retired mechanical engineer who's always been into cars & bicycles, I hear what they say as down-to-earth logic in their approach. Their Aptera is a fine blend of beauty and sensible innovation that justifies & deserves success, finally! Props to their dedication and determination!
@peterjorgensen3
@peterjorgensen3 2 жыл бұрын
It's so exciting isn't it!
@LordSandwichII
@LordSandwichII 2 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of those engines! Those fairings wobble way too much, though.
@patrickcorcoran5539
@patrickcorcoran5539 2 жыл бұрын
I learned recently that's is because the fairings are not complete. They've left off the inner panel so they can change around the cables and suspension. With that inner panel they are much more stable.
@briankirby6714
@briankirby6714 Жыл бұрын
Electric car has no engine sound except of the tires rub/vibration on the wheel fairings that hold the wheel and engines on the outside!
@asdf52708
@asdf52708 Жыл бұрын
@@briankirby6714 sometimes the commutation of the motor is barely audible, it depends if they are using trapezoidal waveforms or not, trapezoids can be quite noisy, but most controllers use sinusoidal or field oriented control
@kare9875
@kare9875 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. I also wonder if their mileage will suffer in the production model when they raise the bottom to be 5" off the road verses what we are currently seeing. I also worry about safety on the highway when a tractor trailer passes or you pass one. I would not eat get in an accident in one of these either.
@fromthepeanutgallery1084
@fromthepeanutgallery1084 Жыл бұрын
Motors. Engines are powered.
@jeffw9232
@jeffw9232 2 жыл бұрын
I kept expecting to see the roof open to expose a pod rising up out of the opening that would extend a telescoping shaft straight up while simultaneously sprouting helicopter blades. The blades begin to spin as the vehicle rises into the air. Cut to: Jay inside stroking a white cat, "Farewell, Mr. Bond!" Love Jay & this channel!
@AM-bw7hv
@AM-bw7hv 2 жыл бұрын
The selling points for me were no charging and the cool look.
@loadapish
@loadapish Жыл бұрын
I live in scotland. Its always cloudy and raining here. We only sometimes get good summers but sometimes you woukdnt even know its summer here because of the cloud and rain. I wonder how a solar car would manage here
@plumbandsquare1
@plumbandsquare1 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they can get it on the market this time around. Also hope they can stop the fenders from wiggling!
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 жыл бұрын
Not much worry about fenders. This is an alpha vehicle. The betas will have changes to almost every aspect
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Fake products never make it to the market... that is not what vaporware scams do.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@n.brucenelson5920 Not to worry, you will never see a working production model... this fake company reeks of vaporware scam.
@rngalston
@rngalston 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 I swear you just like to say vaporware
@danam0228
@danam0228 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 stop being such a troll
@vincebu6441
@vincebu6441 2 жыл бұрын
No more oil changes, filling up at a gas station and watching so I don't get robbed or car jacked.. No 6 dollars a gallon ever.. I'm reserving a 1k mile range aptera for sure.. Thanks Jay and Aptera!!!
@Okurka.
@Okurka. Ай бұрын
Brake oil needs to be replaced every 2 years.
@mayo_moto
@mayo_moto 2 жыл бұрын
Neat! I know stiffness comes at the cost of weight, but those front fenders give a horrible quality impression. Looking forward to seeing later stage models. Looks like this is gonna be a killer product when it's all sorted out.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
According to Aptera representative Rev. Bruce Nelson the beta version will be made from a new composite derived from recycled, biodegradable, gluten-free material called 'Love Resin'. Rev Bruce Nelson says that vibration that causes fatigue failure in ordinary materials actually makes 'Love Resin' stronger and more durable. This is because the individual molecules are emotionally attracted by the Aptera's love for the environment.
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 It runs from unicorn farts.
@AaronVets
@AaronVets 6 ай бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 🤡
@mazevx2451
@mazevx2451 2 жыл бұрын
I want that, this is one of the solutions we need.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
If that was true they would be available from other manufacturers by now.
@inediblenut
@inediblenut 2 жыл бұрын
As an engineer, I have to give these guys a lot of credit for the thought that went into this. The design is clearly where we need to go for the future of the planet. After hearing their spiel, I would consider this vehicle as a second car for city use. It passes the Costco test, in that it can hold the bale of paper towels, cases of water and beer, cart-full of other items and still carry two passengers!
@davidmaddon554
@davidmaddon554 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine this can go anywhere in the world that get sun. How many people in remote places can have a vehicle. The worlds first off grid car.
@Circuitssmith
@Circuitssmith 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a great vacation vehicle too. A couple of people or one person and a pet can go anywhere for a thousand miles, bring a tent and camping gear or a bunch of luggage. The purpose is the people, not the area it gets used in.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
This is just the same vaporware scam as last time with a slicker, more polished presentation. Same crooks running the company again too.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidmaddon554 Can't go anywhere in a car that will never be made... classic example of vaporware fraud
@Circuitssmith
@Circuitssmith 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Can’t change anything with troll comments on KZfaq. Classic example of a miserable failure with too much time on your hands.
@martinfisker7438
@martinfisker7438 2 жыл бұрын
I love the efficiency first standpoint. A majority of all trips are run solo, and it doesn't make sense to have an SUV for that. 1.5kW at 70mph is very impressive (that's about the power of a 50cc scooter)
@OllamhDrab
@OllamhDrab 2 жыл бұрын
It's very cool. Though it getting closer to a real hatchback is a big appeal. If I were scooting around town more, it'd still involve a good percentage of my trips involving carrying some tools or parts or semi-bulky items (cause kind of a handyperson.... as electrics go, I'd probably be wanting something more like a light delivery truck or little van if I were doing more 'house calls' but it's getting more intriguing now that the tech's good enough that these little kinds of things don't have to be nothing-but-seats-and-wheels. :)
@NeoMK
@NeoMK 2 жыл бұрын
Ever ridden a scooter up a mountain?
@peterjorgensen3
@peterjorgensen3 2 жыл бұрын
@@NeoMK This scooter has the power to beat a Porsche 911 in a 0-60.
@NeoMK
@NeoMK 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterjorgensen3 OK, take both and compete in the Cannonball Run against one another.
@peterjorgensen3
@peterjorgensen3 2 жыл бұрын
@@NeoMK The 1000 mile version is actually an interesting thought... It would have to charge about 3-4 times... Even if they spent a full hour at each charge I bet it would absolutely cream that Tesla that set the EV cannonball record a few years back...
@TamTran-vw7zm
@TamTran-vw7zm 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for letting us see this. I saw the previous show 13 yrs ago, and lamented the car's loss. Good to know it's still a possibility.
@lamboman2
@lamboman2 2 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness you kept going! Yay Aptera!
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Scamming investors for over 16 years now... classic example of vaporware.
@thegovernmentshill
@thegovernmentshill 2 жыл бұрын
Jay was born for this car gig. He's perfect for it because he's so damn interested in cars & motorcycles of all kinds.
@MilesCobbett
@MilesCobbett 2 жыл бұрын
Doing what he loves
@AB-kg6rk
@AB-kg6rk 10 ай бұрын
but hes kinda Swacked in this episode!
@mikew6765
@mikew6765 2 жыл бұрын
I've often wondered why the electric car manufacturers weren't covering the shells with solar panels. Thanks for the explanation.
@mrennick
@mrennick 2 жыл бұрын
Being able to get that top up charge is going to be huge. Jay focused on not being able to put it in the garage, but being parked 8 hours outdoors at work each day will help a lot.
@Djkudos14
@Djkudos14 2 жыл бұрын
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 love the info and some of it holds up, but i have to disagree with some. I would recommend checking out their website about the solar panels or some the work NREL has done with solar cells. Ive worked in the solar energy industry and I don't know of a single system that wouldn't run an AC on a "perfect" day. I know that conversation could get super in-depth and no place for comment section but I really did enjoy reading your comment I just had a few disagreements with some of your assertions. cheers!
@ResinRat2
@ResinRat2 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrennick Leave it outside during the day and throw it in the garage overnight.
@jeffcarlton3590
@jeffcarlton3590 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrennick I know. Go ahead and garage it at night. Ain't no sun shining then anyway. I don't think it charges off streetlights ;->.
@jeffcarlton3590
@jeffcarlton3590 2 жыл бұрын
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 It will pass all car regulations for crashes, and safety. It will actually beat most all the cars on the road in most safety metrics.
@Rob060870
@Rob060870 2 жыл бұрын
I think this looks amazing , big sellers are efficiency looks ,right to repair and solar charging. Very impressive. I want one in the UK 👏👏👏
@rickx1621
@rickx1621 2 жыл бұрын
Jay's driving is all over the road between lanes... The vehicle is GREAT way better than any other vehicles on the road... and sustainable and NEVER have to charge it. Wish they could reduce the price. Their idea is TOTALLY right
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
The company unfortunately is a completely scam.
@tims8603
@tims8603 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Jay did this. He has a lot of subscribers so it's a good way for people to get a good idea what the Aptera is all about. I would love to own one.
@thefreedomwarrior
@thefreedomwarrior 2 жыл бұрын
🤮
@EarthCreature.
@EarthCreature. 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefreedomwarrior Can I interest you in a legacy vehicle that won't be worth a damn in 6 years because you strike me as a mindless consumer
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Its very unfortunate that the producers of the show forced Jay to review this fake vaporware scam for a second time... it does absolutely nothing for Jay's credibility in the automotive industry.
@AshS85
@AshS85 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 do you work for Exxon? 😂
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@AshS85 No. Are you a co-conspirator in the Aptera scam?
@nathanjoseph4284
@nathanjoseph4284 2 жыл бұрын
Bring back the "Pandemic Edition!" I honestly prefer the episodes where it's just Jay and his car. It allows me to really appreciate the car more because it's just Jay being wholesome about the car and in the "Pandemic" episodes I feel like I'm alone in the garage hanging out with Jay.
@petermuller161
@petermuller161 2 жыл бұрын
Jay has an amazing talent
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 2 жыл бұрын
Wholesome big chungos 100 keanu reaves
@89CrazyAl
@89CrazyAl 2 жыл бұрын
Man, Jay knows his stuff. I just bought my shares into this company. So looking forward to my first acquisition. More Apteras on the road, less pollution. Eliminate gas purchasing. Big Win Win !!!
@ThomasTheTankEngine22
@ThomasTheTankEngine22 2 жыл бұрын
They support right to repair, it gets up to 1000+ miles, it charges itself, it's still fast, and it starts at around $20k. I WANT ONE!!!!
@Okurka.
@Okurka. Ай бұрын
$20k? Where did you pull that number from?
@craigcolavito5606
@craigcolavito5606 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love aerodynamics!
@Ganiscol
@Ganiscol 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the design, especially the sideline is beautiful! The technology also sounds on point - up to a thousand miles range on a charge with the top range model? 40 free miles per day if the sun shines? A huge trunk that can serve as a tent? And it goes pretty fast too? I wish these gentlemen all the success in the world! And who knows, I might very well own one of these cars one day...
@eletrik500e2
@eletrik500e2 2 жыл бұрын
200 mile overnight charge on 110? That's crazy.
@suomenpresidentti
@suomenpresidentti 2 жыл бұрын
Tent reminds me of Pontiac aztek.
@osimmac
@osimmac 2 жыл бұрын
@@eletrik500e2 yeah its about 25mp/h of charge on a standard outlet, which is pretty awesome, most ev's barely manage 5mph of charge on 110v AC.
@peterjorgensen3
@peterjorgensen3 2 жыл бұрын
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 Last time they refunded all the refundable deposits. It's refundable this time too.
@krissteel4074
@krissteel4074 2 жыл бұрын
Yep its a good looking vehicle and nice to see very low drag aero and weight reduction is still a thing for designers to consider
@JamaicanMeCrazy
@JamaicanMeCrazy Жыл бұрын
Here after fully charged 2022. Man they must be so proud of what they've achieved since this video. They were probably crossing fingers and toes that the alpha didn't disintegrate.
@stuartkline1611
@stuartkline1611 Жыл бұрын
The wheel spats are off a PZL P-24 from the 1930's. Godspeed, Team Aptera!
@cggage
@cggage 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. If ever there was a company that deserves success, this is it. Great idea. Great principles. It's an "engineer's car" but also is strikingly unique in style. Both factors are selling points for me. I am glad Jay reviewed this. I remember the video from 13 years ago. I was hoping there would be a review of the new version of Aptera. Good luck! I will be following this closely.
@mattsullivan3751
@mattsullivan3751 2 жыл бұрын
Love the variety of cars Jay continues to highlight.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, its a great mix of real cars and fake ones.. like the Aptera
@carlsjr7975
@carlsjr7975 2 жыл бұрын
Lots o bots trying to influence jays audience too
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 You were tipped off, but didn't believe it. How many more times so you want to be wrong?
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlsjr7975 Are you paid to promote Carl's Jr???
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@n.brucenelson5920 Aptera still hasn't delivered a single order... you are the one that looks like a fool right now. Aptera has already lied about delivery dates for the third time.
@colinfitzgerald4332
@colinfitzgerald4332 2 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of E.V. We can have without over stressing the electrical power grid. Good work, Aptera!
@Okurka.
@Okurka. 2 жыл бұрын
It saves maximum 4KWh on a sunny day. If your power grid can't handle that then you have different problems.
@JosephWall117
@JosephWall117 2 жыл бұрын
@@Okurka. For me it's not about the solar, the efficiency alone is what has me sold. It uses so much less electricity to move that you can reliably and fairly quickly charge it on a regular 110, which is what he's saying would stress the power grid less than everyone quick charging overnight on 220s. I don't even live in an area with a lot of sun, when I read that you can get what I need for my commute out of a 110 in less than the time I sleep, that's a much bigger deal. I can't buy a house any time soon either, so it needs to work off a regular outlet that I don't need to upgrade.
@Okurka.
@Okurka. 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephWall117 I have yet to see proof of their claimed efficiency.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
​@@JosephWall117 Unfortunately Aptera can't offer any proof of its fantastic claims... it can't get production going either... reeks like a scam
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 10 ай бұрын
​@@JosephWall117Still waiting... it seems the only thing Aptera makes is false promises.
@markloren2133
@markloren2133 Жыл бұрын
Finally , The Jetsons. Waited 60 years to see this. How a car can be so awesome.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Жыл бұрын
Its too bad Aptera is a fictional story just like the Jetsons...
@trevordbb
@trevordbb 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered the 3 wheel drive full solar 400 mile Aptera. I can not wait to drive it!
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Don't hold your breath!
@deanmcmanis9398
@deanmcmanis9398 2 жыл бұрын
I also ordered the AWD, 40kW/400mi model. I am excited to get it.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@deanmcmanis9398 you wont...
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 I hope you like crow because you are preparing a feast for yourself.
@fanfare100
@fanfare100 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered the 400 mile front wheel drive with the off-road, camper options with the improved sound system and full solar. Oh, and special groovie colours. lol
@HRM.H
@HRM.H 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I expected of electric cars. Ultra earodynamic and efficient
@peterjorgensen3
@peterjorgensen3 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!
@dutmala
@dutmala 2 жыл бұрын
Aerodynamic *
@HRM.H
@HRM.H 2 жыл бұрын
@@dutmala Grammar Nazi *
@jfv65
@jfv65 2 жыл бұрын
Have a look at the Lightyear1, it's a 4wheeler 4seater, ultra aerodynamic and it also has solar panels on hood, roof and fastback
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 жыл бұрын
@@jfv65 Another good effort, but also $170,000.
@gonzalosanabria2767
@gonzalosanabria2767 Жыл бұрын
Need jay to go car shopping. Extremely knowledgeable in the automotive industry.
@joelcordeiro2079
@joelcordeiro2079 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so impressed that I became a small investor and I ordered one with 600 mi version, full solar plus all wheel drive! I can’t wait!! Go Aptera!! 👁👁🛸
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 2 жыл бұрын
You'll never see it. And that's a bummer. I wanted one of the originals but after 20 years watching them dink around, I gave up. They have NO suppliers lined up and have an empty warehouse for a factory. Do you know what it takes to manufacture a car from scratch? Elon barely pulled it off and his car is practical (4 seat, 4 wheels) Unless they have an Elon billionaire supporting them, no way. I think, inside, you know this already.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBandit7613 Elon's first car was a simple EV conversion of the Lotus Elise, and it still took him longer to produce than Aptera has been at it. Aptera started their design about the same time the Cybertruck was announced, and they may even beat that to delivery as well. Both the no suppliers claim and the lack of a factory are false.
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 2 жыл бұрын
@@n.brucenelson5920 I love Elon's original Tesla as I loved Aptera's original hybrid. I think it was back in the mid 2000's. back then it was simple and clean with an ultra-efficient diesel. HUGE mpg range, perfect for anywhere in the world, not just sunny climates. I was prepared to buy right then and there. It was gorgeous. Now it's been over-tinkered with. Goofy solar panels all over it. I live in Vegas, I ain't leaving my car sit in the sun. It will take god knows how long to cool, plus it will burn the paint off. Goofy opening, ill fitting doors. Watching the videos, it needs a ton of suspension work. It rides bad. World-wide use is now limited to warm sunny climates. it would have helped if they looked for a partner like Bombardier, Polaris, Textron, ect. Now then, I do understand the solar panels. California has a quite severe lack of power with many areas suffering from rolling blackouts as it is now. And they have (foolishly) decided to close Diablo Canyon power plant. That's a disaster. Even with Diablo operating at full capacity, even in September, they are granting other power plants permission to operate without pollution standards as they exceed rated capacity to provide as much energy as possible. That's bad politics. Be honest with yourself. What do you think is going to happen when millions of people get home from work and plug into a 240 volt, 50 amp circuit? That's as much energy as a BIG arc welder that can melt 3/4" thick steel plate! Trust me man, the grid is not ready. Maybe in 20 years if we start now and work fast. Bruce, watch this: Michael Moore Presents: Planet of the Humans kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kNFhZNl6kp3Hqnk.html Yes, that Michael Moore (Bowling for Columbine ect) You need to learn the truth about "renewable" energy.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBandit7613 I have ridden in the Luna alpha prototype, and know how it performs first hand. Do you know what alpha prototype means? Perhaps you don't know that Aptera has hired several partners - among the best in the business. For the suspension and doors, Roush Performance had 20 engineers who have totally re-engineered both the suspension and the doors. Take a look at the fit and finish of the last Tesla Cybertruck that was shown. Tesla started development of the Cybertruck about the same time Aptera restarted and began their design. Even with the vast difference in resources, a production Aptera may reach the market first. As far as power production, I have professional experience working at both nuclear plants and on and off shore petroleum production facilities. I also responded to the fires in Kuwait and other petroleum related disasters around the world. I understand the situation first hand, having lived in California for over 20 years, and dealing with the consequences of the fires. Over use of petroleum is a root cause of these fires, which have greatly increased in number and frequency just in the past 20 years. The peak fire season is also occurring earlier in the year. We are already in the middle of disaster on an immense scale and it is well past time to take effective action. As far as the grid capacity to handle EVs, yes, co-ordinated planning needs to be done. However, with V2G tech, a relatively small number of EVs plugged into the grid not only charge, but can shave 30% from peak grid loads. There are also long term solar thermal storage plants under development that will make load leveling and additional power even less of an issue than it is now. Such vehicles will improve grid stability - not harm it. EVs such as Aptera are a part of the solution, not a cause of the problems we are experiencing with inefficient power use.
@VedaSay
@VedaSay 2 жыл бұрын
This design platform with autonomous interacting platform seems the right future. Strapping solar to a car that was meant to carry an ice engine is not efficient. The design needs re-thinked through like Aptra, that is what the future has to be. AWESOME effort Team Aptera!
@tomslattery1
@tomslattery1 2 жыл бұрын
What is an ice engine?
@tjfromreno
@tjfromreno 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomslattery1 internal combustion engine
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude 2 жыл бұрын
This is the direction new cars should be headed in. Lightweight, efficient, simple, innovative design. I seriously hope Aptera succeeds.
@IonorReasSpamGenerator
@IonorReasSpamGenerator 2 жыл бұрын
In Europe, plenty of people buying small city cars like Fiat 500, London is full of them, there may be a good amount of interest in Aptera instead of electric 500 or Hone E as you would not need to bother with charging while the cost for the base Aptera model is similar. A large part of the population in the UK parking cars on street near their house, so charging electric cars there is a bit of an issue and reason behind the popularity of hybrids, as most did not have their own garage or large enough front yard to park a car in and charge, solar powered EVs could change that faster than big investment into infrastructure...
@milfordcivic6755
@milfordcivic6755 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Good luck selling this to Bubba. He won't be able to blow black smoke on Priuses with a car like this.
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude 2 жыл бұрын
@@milfordcivic6755 I highly doubt the local truck yobbos are the target market to be fair.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 2 жыл бұрын
SO, how do yo Transport a BABY or 3rd Person it its only a 2 Seater. also that Rear hatch is IMPRACTICAL for Fetching Groceries , to low hood.
@SvenDansk7
@SvenDansk7 2 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 LMAO, you can get groceries with a couple panniers on a bicycle. Groceries are not construction materials. They'll likely come out with a 4-dr version later that will be slower and less efficient. If that's what you're into.
@briandunivent
@briandunivent 2 жыл бұрын
7:10 man i love his response here, this is why people watch this show, sometimes the stuff he says is just gold xD
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Jay is such a great comedian... he almost sounds sincere as he mocks this joke of a vehicle.
@robcerrato6528
@robcerrato6528 2 жыл бұрын
I love the idea/concept of Aptera and hope they make it to production. That said those front wheel covers are really wobbly… and did something fall off of the car at 23:38? I hope they sort it all out because this would be a great future.
@The_Irish_Rover
@The_Irish_Rover 2 жыл бұрын
No, look in front of the car. You can see the black thing come from off camera.
@robcerrato6528
@robcerrato6528 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Irish_Rover yes, I believe you are right about that.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Aptera representative Rev Bruce Nelson confirmed that the rear ABS module fell off during the test drive.. while Jay was uninjured the vehicle was involved in a fatal accident involving a pedestrian later that day. The NTSB report shows that video from the show Jay Leno's Garage was instrumental in the accident investigation. Aptera is currently involved in a wrongful death lawsuit and served Jay Leno and Big Dog Productions with an _order of protection_ preventing Jay or the show from commenting on the accident.
@brugraz
@brugraz 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Actually?
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@brugraz Yes, Rev. Bruce Nelson actually works for Aptera, you can see him on their website.
@beninformato9040
@beninformato9040 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool car! Great concept. Contemporary design. I wish the company well. Hope they sell a lot. Thanks Jay for having them on the show.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Aptera is a fraudulent vaporware investment scam
@danam0228
@danam0228 2 жыл бұрын
The age of the Jetsons is here. Very cool. Love that if needed you can plug it into any outlet.
@peterjorgensen3
@peterjorgensen3 2 жыл бұрын
You can DC fast charge too just like any tesla on a road trip.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterjorgensen3 Tesla makes real cars... Aptera is nothing more than a vaporware scam.
@RALTBOB1
@RALTBOB1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God there are still people out there pushing the envelope of genius for the rest of the world. Thank you Maestro Jay for another outstanding educational class!
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Its too bad none of they wprk at Aptera... after 16 years these crooks haven't delivered a single working vehicle to a customer... classic vaporware scam.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 жыл бұрын
Sander is a classic troll.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@n.brucenelson5920 You are a shill for Aptera, why should anyone believe you? You do you not disclose that you are a representative of Aptera and have a financial stake in the company.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 You keep repeating things you know are not true, but it just gives me another chance to say that I am a volunteer, completely unpaid brand ambassador for Aptera, a small investor, and an early preorder holder, because I believe in what they are doing. I have done and continue to do due diligence, unlike you who are a troll for unknown reasons.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 You have just given me another chance to tell everyone what I always have, which is that I have a small investment in Aptera, I am a volunteer brand ambassador, and that I am an early pre-order holder. Unlike you, I ahve done due diligence on the company, which now includes visiting the production factory site where I found a crew preparing the production line, and getting a ride in one of the alpha prototypes - which had amaziing performance. I will be glad to wait as long as it takes to get my own perfected version of the vehicle I just experienced.
@Pho7on
@Pho7on Жыл бұрын
Wow. He really does dig into the technical aspects rather than the stupid fluff most reviewers ask about. This is more revealing than any of Aptera's videos.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Жыл бұрын
That's because Aptera's videos are all fake, the company is nothing more than a fraudulent vaporware investment scam.
@ticnatz
@ticnatz 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see these guys still trying....
@ganjaman59650
@ganjaman59650 2 жыл бұрын
and failing
@JTM610
@JTM610 2 жыл бұрын
@@ganjaman59650 isn’t it a bit early to say that
@nightcrawleroriginal
@nightcrawleroriginal 2 жыл бұрын
@@ganjaman59650 I wouldn't say 10,000 orders is a failure would you?
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 жыл бұрын
13,000 now and growing.
@hammertlme
@hammertlme 2 жыл бұрын
@@ganjaman59650 They already have enough investor funds to be in production for years. Failure is basically an impossibility.
@m.san.9512
@m.san.9512 2 жыл бұрын
Will be good for my kids when in college.
@MiguelRodriguez-nt5eq
@MiguelRodriguez-nt5eq 2 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of the motors.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
According to Aptera representative Rev Bruce Nelson the beta version will have motors that become completely silent about 20 minutes after the sun goes down... The beta solar panels are so efficient at night the motors don't make any audible sound. When asked how this possible he said its true because Steve Fambo and Chris Anthony told him it was true and like Elon Musk they never tell a lie.
@mockingbird187
@mockingbird187 2 жыл бұрын
It's a good point about wanting to be discrete. I would want this to be my only vehicle, and if I got the long-range version, it could accomplish all the tasks (well, one other seat would be great, but not essential)... but I don't like the idea of drawing so much attention when driving around the Baja peninsula.
@mykevenable8180
@mykevenable8180 2 жыл бұрын
Love it ! American made, beauty of a design and totally practical.
@davet.5493
@davet.5493 2 жыл бұрын
pinto
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Total vaporware scam.. Hard to believe there are suckers that actually fell for this same scam twice.
@khandam7709
@khandam7709 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 what a looser
@32BitJunkie
@32BitJunkie 2 жыл бұрын
Stop commenting that on everything
@mykevenable8180
@mykevenable8180 2 жыл бұрын
@@davet.5493 The Pinto was a beautiful car design ! Simple.
@Nuker54
@Nuker54 2 жыл бұрын
Loved it at first sight and live in Arizona. Putting my name in the order queue was a no-brainer.
@CAC2024USA
@CAC2024USA 2 жыл бұрын
I am in love ! Aptera is what I want !
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
BEWARE of Aptera! these guys are crooks.
@dungeonquesting8075
@dungeonquesting8075 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Jay tells it like it is, but shows great interest to these kind of cars
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Jay is forced by the production company to review alot of vehicles from dubious companies like Elio, Aptera and Canoo.. Jay did a special feature on Canoo, the company is currently under federal investigation for fruad.
@Slayer-xi7pu
@Slayer-xi7pu 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 yeah sure, the company being contracted by nasa for astronaut transport vehicles is under investigation for fraud. Riiiiiight 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@Slayer-xi7pu Canoo is is under federal investigation for fraud by the SEC and is also being sued by its shareholders for investment fraud.
@jeffkelly636
@jeffkelly636 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting car. Quiet and a real head turner. Visibility looks excellent.
@richardlutz5458
@richardlutz5458 2 жыл бұрын
So often I see people getting all worked up over parking in the garage. When I depart for work, the sun is just coming up. When I get home in the summer there is 2-3 hours of sunlight max. The car is going to be outside in the sun AT WORK! My employer doesn't provide a garage for the employees. Sure it might not get a full day of sunshine on the weekend. Five days out of seven it will be in the sun.
@bob15479
@bob15479 2 жыл бұрын
BINGO
@deanmcmanis9398
@deanmcmanis9398 2 жыл бұрын
Well said! I will be getting recharged while the Aptera is sitting out in the sunny parking lot at work.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Rest assured, this fake car will never see the light of day... the crooks at Aptera will bailout and run with the money just like last time.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 that didn't happen.
@Blazer02LS
@Blazer02LS 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Except they didn't run, they refunded the money to the early buyers. So unless you really want to be taken to court for slandering them you might want to stop.
@BigEBikes
@BigEBikes 2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered one, I already have a SurRon electric dirt bike and it was one of the greatest purchases I ever made as you can see from my profile pic, so hopefully the Aptera will be my next greatest purchase.
@loftsatsympaticodotc
@loftsatsympaticodotc Жыл бұрын
We have 3 ordered. Now May, 2023 over 50,000 0n 0rder. Production molds are almost finished in Italy. We'll use them for general transport. delivering parts to each or 3 warehouses, and even to our 195 Laurentian gated community project about 80 miles away, once off the ground. We even are promoting a free Aptera for each buyer of a unit in our planned 20 storey tower near the water; EVs may be parked in an electric powered carousel INside the building, so more people can live more efficiently, with parks and water in front, avoiding urban sprawl..
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Жыл бұрын
Aptera is nothing more than a fraudulent vaporware investment scam.
@stephensfischer
@stephensfischer 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Aptera and looking forward to getting mine with the full solar, camper and off rode packages!!! 😎 ☀️
@RandomAssaultPodcast
@RandomAssaultPodcast 2 жыл бұрын
If I hadn't just bought a 2019 Chevy Bolt last October I'd be very interested in this, it just looks so cool
@adrianciel2154
@adrianciel2154 Жыл бұрын
World needs to treasure these idealist, who bring new beautiful things to the world....this project is GREAT
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 11 ай бұрын
Aptera is a vaporware investment scam run by lying crooks.
@btower1157
@btower1157 Жыл бұрын
These are ground-breaking means of transportation. I can't wait to get mine! GO APTERA!
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Жыл бұрын
This is a very old type of vaporware scam... Aptera has been making false promises for over 17 years
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 Жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Interesting comment since the current Aptera Motors was only founded in 2019. Sander has not done his due diligence and would rather spread FUD and insult people.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Жыл бұрын
Beware of Bruce Nelson he is a lying shill for Aptera.
@artsmith103
@artsmith103 Жыл бұрын
@@n.brucenelson5920 I've been following Aptera for over 10yrs. I was even hoping to get a hybrid if it could manage my weather. My latest theory is Aptera hopes to sell the company, not vehicles.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 Жыл бұрын
@@artsmith103 The original founders lost control of their company in 2009, when the Idealablab appointed CEO was able to throw them off the board with the help of Google and some other large investors. Now that they have it back, they are not about to lose control again, in my opinion. They are moving at light speed in a difficult supply environment - even faster than Tesla, in spite of having far fewer resources at the moment. I think we are going to hear wonderful reports regarding gamma from the upcoming show, I am hoping they get that government loan, the way Tesla did, and in a more timely fashion. I don't think we will see management trying to unload their dreams.
@ICKY427
@ICKY427 2 жыл бұрын
they mention having to leave it outside to get the solar charge, but i think in most peoples cases you would get your charge AT work, then drive home and back on that charge.
@androo4519
@androo4519 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. When you're home it's often going to be nighttime anyway so it doesn't matter if it's in the garage.
@davefroman4700
@davefroman4700 2 жыл бұрын
You obviously have no idea how expensive it is for businesses to install that much charging for its employee's. Its all fun and games until you realize the cost of pulling another leg of power off the grid is going to involve the installation of transformers.
@Circuitssmith
@Circuitssmith 2 жыл бұрын
@@davefroman4700 He was talking about the charge from the solar panels being picked up in the work parking lot. Also, parking lots in general are huge opportunities for solar power, and they’d provide shade so people wouldn’t have to climb into microwave ovens at the end of the day. That’s also before getting into snow and weather damage to the pavement that gets prevented.
@johnbuscher
@johnbuscher 2 жыл бұрын
Some people can park on the roof of their garage at work though, so this seems like an easy way to recoup some time of it charging.
@TLamparter
@TLamparter 2 жыл бұрын
I love how at 23:38 the back go-pro just rolls off like it had enough.
@marekw.9816
@marekw.9816 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, I thought that was pieces falling off the car.
@breakingames7772
@breakingames7772 2 жыл бұрын
that was part of the fender, the entire thing keeps rattling so much it will eventually weaken, crack and break off, they need to be stronger. and i love how he keeps saying "a car you never need to plug in" you only get 20 miles of charging per 12 hour day, it would take 2 weeks outside for it to fully charge to full from 0, 7 days if you add the rear hatch charging roof that is an extra 25,000 dollars
@xoallison12ox
@xoallison12ox 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds very rattle-y the entire video.
@TesserId
@TesserId 2 жыл бұрын
I just noticed a change in the go-pro mountings. So funny. It obviously was not one take.
@meatisomalley
@meatisomalley 2 жыл бұрын
@@breakingames7772 SO MUCH misinformation here. 1: that was definitely not the rear fender. If you pause it at the right frame, you can see the lens of the camera. 2: unless you're going on a road trip, you probably don't need more than 20-40 miles per day. That means you either never have to charge, or maybe if drive a little further / live in a darker area and drain 10 miles a day, once every few months. 3. Solar costs $900 NOT $25,000! range goes from 400 miles at $25k to 1000 miles at $49k. This is probably what you're referring to.
@thefpvlife7785
@thefpvlife7785 Жыл бұрын
Things are looking great for Aptera. I just placed my reservation and hope to expect to receive my Atera in the second quarter of 2024.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Жыл бұрын
Aptera is nothing more than a fruadulent vaporware investment scam. They have delivered nothing but false promises for over 18 years
@jimsteele7108
@jimsteele7108 2 жыл бұрын
Super cool. I'd love to have one.
@Themayor88
@Themayor88 2 жыл бұрын
Driving this to work is ideal, park in a sunny spot and charge while at work.
@buckodonnghaile4309
@buckodonnghaile4309 2 жыл бұрын
So anywhere but the United Kingdom?
@scottimusgarrett15
@scottimusgarrett15 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool. I like the fact that these guys never quit, kept up with new technology, and came back. Nice packaging and great low weight. It is a little Jetsons for me, but it's that way for scientific and pragmatic reasons, so I'll take it!👍 Thanks for another unique presentation, Jay and crew!🤘
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
This old scam still hooks the suckers....
@Circuitssmith
@Circuitssmith 2 жыл бұрын
I love how form purely follows function here. It’s its own kind of art and display of genius.
@biffwilliams6191
@biffwilliams6191 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanderkammen9230 The engineering is sound, the design is exactly what cars should look like from an engineering perspective. The prior version of Aptera refunded all the pre-order deposits last time, so no scam then either. As for investors, Aptera has always been very clear about the challenges. Most startup companies don't make it, trying for something new and big doesn't make it a scam.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@biffwilliams6191 Well thank you for confirming that you are not an engineer. Are you sure? They never paid any interest on all those deposits... What about the investors and creditors? They never got their money back.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
@@biffwilliams6191 It is a scam if you never intend to go to production.
@Nathankinamorh
@Nathankinamorh 2 жыл бұрын
5minutes in wow straight to the point love it
@iulianhagea5815
@iulianhagea5815 2 жыл бұрын
I hope so badly that this project is successful 🥰🥰
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
It has never very successful for Steve and Chris, they have been making millions of dollars and have never produced anything!
@jasontran8095
@jasontran8095 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Aptera. Can't wait to get one...
@SamBirchenough
@SamBirchenough 2 жыл бұрын
so happy to see this company is making a comeback. loved the original concept years ago. the founders did a good job fielding Jays comments. wishing these guys all the best & a very bright future
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 2 жыл бұрын
These guys aren't the founders. I think they aren't trustworthy. Here's the original with the real founder: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hdiBpKZ9t77QYqs.html
@SamBirchenough
@SamBirchenough 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBandit7613 hmm, according to their website & wiki, these guys are founders of the original 2005 company.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Still nothing but a vaporware scam
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamBirchenough I don't know who anyone is. I do know the original Aptera was more marketable and more finished. Wasn't full of gimmicks. They will go nowhere. Elon has enthusiasm. These guys have none. It's not easy to found a new car company. The original had nice mirrors, door handles, the front fenders didn't flop around, had a nice plug in, doors stayed open ect.
@SamBirchenough
@SamBirchenough 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBandit7613 i agree that this seems to be light years away from being production ready, and it would have been nice to hear about their manufacturing infrastructure & plans.
@TheVerendus
@TheVerendus Жыл бұрын
One thing you can't knock about Jay Leno is he is passionate about cars. I love how he just acts simple factual questions about the parts and structure and the guys give him simple factual answers back, then they talk about it in relation to the typical automobile. Great stuff, cool car, but definitely not practical for everyone. Amazing proof of concept though, this will be the future eventually.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Jay's reputation has been tarnished by scams like Aptera, Elio, Canoo etc... so much that the production company has cancelled his show.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 Жыл бұрын
Aptera has always been planned as a niche vehicle, but the niche has turned out to be far larger than originally thought. They are now backed by over 60 mainstream automotive suppliers, and the bodies are being built by an Italian supercar builder (C.P.C. Group of Modena, Italy), and there are over 41,000 pre-orders.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Жыл бұрын
@@n.brucenelson5920 *Aptera has been scamming investors for over 18 years.*
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Жыл бұрын
@@n.brucenelson5920 *Why are there no legitimate EV manufacturers offing a solar powered cars?* *Why have all the other solar car companies gone bankrupt?* *Sono, Lightyear... all failures.*
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 Жыл бұрын
@@n.brucenelson5920 *TESLA HAS DELIVERED 3.6 MILLIONS VEHICLES!!!*
@qpham63
@qpham63 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to get mine. Love my Model S but I would love this more...an Aerospace Engineer's car right here. I help a little on the composite tooling quoting but it did not go well the first go round.
@sandervanderkammen9230
@sandervanderkammen9230 10 ай бұрын
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