As a guns enthusiast, I have a lot of respect for people who are keeping archery alive. Even though the bow and arrow have little to no place in the battlefield in this day and age, it is still a very effective hunting weapon. I’ve fired a gun several times in my life and getting the basics down is fairly easy. But archery is a different animal entirely.

fun fact the robinhood guy was trained by lars anderson for that role and he really could shoot arrows at 3 thrown targets before they hit the ground by the end of it btw I love your content so far

Regarding the Kate Bishop and Oliver Queen commentary, I tried that after seeing the same thing differently. The way I've done it is holding the nock between the thumb and the groove between my first two fingers, and then lay the shaft on the left side while keeping that pinch and sliding the arrow nock and pinch over the string---similarly to nocking with thumb draw except doing it on the left---and drawing right back. With the slow-motion footage yeah it's CG arrows and the arrowhead is a bit past the riser when showing that. But with practice and keeping that pinch you can do it very closely to that and very smoothly with a quiver on your back. That's just feedback from my own tests, I hope it's helpful.

If you slow the video down to .25 when Oliver is nocking his arrows, you can see that it seems they thought about how he loads them onto the bow. The arrow, which they did admit is cg, is on the left side of the bow the entire time, his draw hand opens as he nocks the arrow, insinuating that he is loading on the left and shooting from the right of the bow. Amell is also a decent archer, due to receiving coaching for the show.

Hailee Steinfeld and Stephen Amell actually do archery in real life. They aren’t pros or anything but it is a hobby of theirs.

At 9:35, he is not deflecting a sword/axe, when looking closely in slow motion you can see that its more like a spiked club. The club does appear to be metallic though, but Robin deflects the hit fairly low and close to where the opponent is holding the club, so the impact would probably be less compared to at the end of the club which would have hit with a greater force. The club also appear to hit directly on the front of the bow close to where Robin is holding it, so the bow is probably a bit stronger in that area as well. With those things in mind I think it could be doable without damaging the bow too much.

You're 100% right. I think the Directors just rely on us saying "Oh, it's okay because it's not real." haha

In the Arrow clip, he's drops the bow down between each shot, then he swings the arrow over and swings the bow up with the arrow on the left side.

Your point at 10:20 , in the movie his bow actually had a metal guard around his fist. In this case he was able to deflect a sword!

It is actually possible to do what kate bishop is doing....it bugs me when people say its impossible. You just havent thought about it enough. How you do it is you pull the arrow out of the quiver and you hold the arrow in a pinch grip between your thumb, pointer, and middle finger. Then you put the arrow on the shelf and as you do that you have the arrow on the left side of the string and instead of fliping your hand you just let the string slip through the grip of your pointer/middle finger side of the thumb, pointer, middle pinch grip. From there your hand and the arrow is in position the just simply pull back and as you pull back you nock the arrow.

9:51 Hmmm interesting observation, I mean looking closer it looks more like a club/mace that the crossbowman there is using. Whenever I watch this scene---and this is just my take on it, I'd have to look at it in slow-motion---it looks more like Robin's blocking the guy's arm with his own arm and pushing that aside with his fist/wrist with the bow just being in his hand so that gives him the leeway to shoot.

Hey, I really like the bow you're using in this video, is it a good one? and if so where did you find it?

In the robin hood movie when he blocks the sword, his bow has a metal hand guard/ knuckle duster he used to stop the blade

Bravo! Good idea for a video Charlie. You are a very smart guy :)

You can deflect arrows but it's hard only slowly though

Im archer myself and i enjoy your video. But great wall, i think he learn from Hungarian archer lajos kassai. But sometimes i see matt damon shot like kassai did, especially on scene he and pedro fight creature on the great wall. That scene he use similar method like kassai use,reload arrow from bow hand,put on the left side then shot with three finger. And bowl scene,yes that similar with cozmei mihai method.

Pink fletchings! Glad you took my advice. =P

Have a look at the movie "War of the Arrows". There is a lot of great Korean and Manchu archery in it, even the use of the tong-ah (in Turkish archery I call this device majra). "War of the Arrows" is a must see!

I shoot Mediterranean (right handed) and practice spinning 180° to the left *as* I draw. The arrow coming off the shelf happens sometimes, but you can absolutely pull it off consecutively with enough practice or by having wood elf dna.

What about Brave? I always wonder If that thing that Merida does shoting a Arrow unto a Arrow is posible

well for the part at 6:40 I saw in a video where he trained with Lars Andersen, and that guy shoots super fast and accurate, I would give it an 8/10

You can shoot fast on either side if the bow.

Great video!

In Robin Hood there is a scene where he jumps out of a hallway, and shoots from his right hand and in mid air switches to his left hand In order to compensate for the awkward position of only shooting from his right hand. I’m working on this my self, and this is amazing archery in my opinion. Also completely possible. Love your videos. Keep it up. ✊🏾

who upsets you my brother, just bring me their pictures and I promise to draw a mustache on it

All research I've looked up says you don't need to unstring modern material bows only old-fashioned wooden bows. Also, everyone knows all arrows on set that that go through motion are digital.

I would like to come back on what you said about each archers in movies/series if you don't mind: -Kate Bishop is not shooting in a realistic way in that scene but there are other scenes like the car chase in which she shoots two successive arrows using the Russian "Dagger technique", so the reverse grip. I would give her more like a 3/10 if there is something to save^^. -Oliver Queen: What you say is true for biological bows maid of wood, bones and sinew. But it is not that much true for mineral material bows maid of Carbon and Fiberglass. My Assyrian bow (Jackal Archery) has been stringed for 4 months now without any problem because the main material of the bow is fiberglass inside the limbs and I shoot a lot. For the roof fight, a hunting/war bow is shooting a 600-1200grain arrows at 55-60 m/s so yes, impossible to dodge/parry an arrow at close range About armor, a hunting/war bow car go through kevlar, sand and water more efficiently than a 5.56mm or a 7.62mm bullet, it has been proved because the arrow is heavy, sub sonic and has blades so it is very efficient against "soft targets". While a bullet is blocked by these materials but will go through thick wood, metal or stone if there is enough energy, an arrow is almost always stopped by hard materials. -The Great Wall, just one detail that always catch my eyes in that scene, the first arrow probably hurt someone out of screen, nothing else to say XD. -Robinhood, we see during his training that he is using Bodkin tips for his arrows, they are specifically maid to pierce armors and to be retrieved on bodies. My problem in all of these scenes is that they always show a solo archer shooting multiple ennemies in a frontline which is impossible. The bow is a stealth weapon in solo, because it takes at least 30 secondes to be completely neutralized by an arrow due to bleeding.

Mathematics to calculate where trajectory will land is an actual application it's literally math but math is not everyone's strong point.

I'm surprised you didn't break down scens from the movie War of the arrows

Could you analyze the archer from war of the arrows please😊

Hailee Steinfeld actually trained in archery when she was hired as Kate Bishop. Kind of hard to judge scene where she's shooting fake arrows. Another professional archer said she was actually more skilled than Jeremy Renner

how about a video with the same movies and same characters.. but points in the movie or show where they got it right or very close to right.

To be fair I think the deflection would be possible. Risky...yes. Impractical...for sure. But it could certainly be done without breaking the bow IF "note that I said IF" you have the foresight and coordination to deflect off the flat of the blade and not the cutting edge. Still super Impractical...but definitely possible.

13:08 the bow. Switched to Tatar. And then back to Syrian bow. Watch.

you can actually see kate's arrow going through the bow. they use a CGI prop or something?

Charlie's, You Have not Failed This City

You can’t blame the actor (the Archer) for something the digital effects artist do. You also can’t say someone trying to close distance is a bad thing especially if fighting someone better then you at a bow. You don’t even comment on the actors who have good technique. Matt Damon’s technique is shit throwing his hand back, something Stephen amell does well. Giving him a “superhero” pass but not giving a actual comic book character the same is a bit silly

Lars Anderson literally has shown that arrows can be deflected as well as shooting most of the same ways that you say are impossible so just because you can't shoot that way just means you should probably practice more.

war of arrows is one movie shoot forget the other one!

What about Neytiri?

Bro is real life hawkeye

I also recommend "TOMIRIS" kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9h_rK6J09PZh40.html (Maybe not historical correct 🙃 but nice to watch) and "Myn Bala - warriors of the Steppe" kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jJ2VjbGb383edaM.html - both movies with eastern archery and great landscape. 👍

It doesn't look like Arrow is holding the arrow on the left side and crosses over. It's too blurry to tell. It looks like his arrow is on the right side but from the camera perspective it is on the left. Just me saying but I refer to your judgement. Also, is it shoot arrows or loose arrows? I feel like shoot is incorrect as you don't shoot an arrow as you would a gun. Deflecting an arrow is impossible as you say but it's a comic book so I can let it slide. Deflecting with a bow may break the bow but swords have varying quality as do bows. (Robin Hood 2018 actor Taron Egerton was trained by Lars Andersen so fun fact).

Try watching korean & japanese movies such as 13 assassin's, war of the arrows, the great battle.

Look at war of arrows

Nei film un' altra sciocchezza è la morte istantanea con una freccia. Si forse è possibile solo al cuore o in testa. Anche nella caccia, un animale colpito da una freccia, si allontana per qualche metro (anche decine di metri) e poi muore.

I personally find it weird that you gave 1/10 because of shooting from left/right issues, but still gave 10/10 for a scene that involves blocking a sword slash with a wooden arrow.

I'm also one the those few who can shoot 3 arrows in less than 2 seconds while drawing from quiver...its very difficult and takes many years of practice. I have over almost a million arrows shot within the past 4 years. Not to brag just to inform those interested in learning. It is possible and yeah most movies suck in their shooting image I think because they dont want people to know how to do it to keep masses weak and vulnerable to governments and evil rich people. Ha sounds crazy but have you checked a history book lately. They take stuff 9it of them on purpose it wouldn't surprise me if that's why they do it in modern films.

lol Allison on Teen Wolf

Let me add a few things to that reaction. Yes the way Kate Bishop and Arrow draw and nock is done with an empty hand and the arrow has been digitally added. But it is not true that it is impossible to draw an arrow in that way and shoot mediteranian. Especially with a backquiver. (I tried it myself), you bring the arrow already down in a high arc, so if you now do that arc to the outside or the inside of the bow does not make much difference. You do not even have to change to that reverse mediteranian grip. It works surprisingly well, and with enough practice you could get quite a high rate of fire. About that Robin Hood movie, Well Lars Anderson was a special consultant for that movie, and that shows. As you see he is shooting botkins so pulling them from a body is possible as long as the shaft is not broken. About parrying with a bow. His bow has a metal handguard, espcially for that I would guess. That the stuntmen did not hit there but on the limb that is another issue. :) About storing a stung bow. Bows from modern materials like carbon can be stored strung. They do not suffer from the problem wood bows have that the wood slowly takes the shape when being kept strung. See compound bows, the glassfiber limbs on them are kept strung for the lifetime of the bow without any problems. Sure it is better to unstring a bow, but it will not ruin a modern bow if it is being kept strung for some time. Especially as his bow was in a case so sunlight, heat, humidity all issues that help deform a strung bow would not be an issue.

Kate in possible just put it through the string to be on the left

Be sure to watch the videos related to the Jumong series on KZfaq. He is a hero that Western countries know nothing about, and his archery is very excellent.

What about Katniss Everdreen from hunger games?????

There is one movie you absolutely need to see sir. It is War of the Arrow, it's a Korean movie, 2011. It's quiet a good movie.

Well, archery is a sport which requires physical fitness. Guns don't. Both require technique though.

Nice video Charlie, the legolas and hawkeye scenes are sooo typical murican "Hollywood" production. Thats so boring to watch because it too far gone. But you breakdown video was awesome and educational as Well. You definitely should make more. 👌

Kate Bishop is 'Hawkeye'. KATE is, at least, one of three 'Hawkeye'. Yea! The impossible cgi phasing through solid bow, arrows. Fun.

I'd you tilt the bow forward you can fit it from the right side to shoot from the left...I'm sure with practice speed will come just like everything else...also I'm very hit or miss on your video your trying to sound like a master by rating actors who don't shoot archery in shows and movies that care more about overall ratings then accuracy

Orc archers domination all of them ))

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You can't judge Hawkeye or Arrow based on our world. The physics of our world and the fictional world to which those characters belong are not the same. You say that what happens is impossible and it is in our world, but it is not in the world to which these characters belong. If what you want is to see a realistic archer, you would have to judge biographical films and series that if they have to be 100% possible, they would be based on people who exist or existed in our world. But judging fictional characters, whether in movies or series, makes no sense. Hawkeye is the best archer in the MARVEL and ARROW world. He is the best Archer in the DC world. Now with Legolas, he's not even human. His strength, speed, agility, and longevity are a thousand times greater than a human's. Judging archery in those circumstances also makes no sense.

Rambo?

What nissa did is actually possible she was trained by the demon come on

But in their universe it's possible they are not in the real world

Arrow is the best

Movies bud

JEALOUS, that Hawkeye is a better Archery

Lmfao joke

You don’t no nothing’s

Dont sqy the oliver shooting tennis balls is fake causei seen a archer on KZfaq do it maybe you just need more practice

dude you are analyzing fictional shooting, comparing it to reality, no sense

Liked the video and it got me noticing the same wrong details in comic book cover pics of Green Arrow,his son G.R.2,Speedy&Robyn Hood from Grimm comics. In each picture I downloaded I see the artist knows nothing about archery they draw sometimes the characters holding the bow in the right or left hand with the quivers facing the wrong way,also drawing the arrows facing the wrong side of the bow like you see in the movie's and shows you mentioned lol. You would think a real fan and archer would write to the comic book artist and tell them their mistakes or maybe some have but their response would probably have said we can't get into too much detail about the little thing's when we're on a time schedule getting issues out before deadlines. I saw a documentary about comic's being made and yes they have to finish them quick but I think drawing a quiver&a arrow facing the proper side of the bow wouldn't take that much out of your time especially like drawing the line's on Spider-Mans costume in some issues. But anyway look up Robyn Hood on Google if you've never heard of her it's a good comic and it even has a fan made short movie here on KZfaq.