can you use LT for detroit 12-20 degree winter?

Awesome, thank you! Really appreciate the positive note. And thanks for the sub! I have another Arcteryx comparison for you that goes live tomorrow. Take care!

Thank you!

Hello my friend! Thanks for the kind note. Much appreciated! I will see if we can get the Atom vs Proton Heavyweight going (I am curious too!) Take care!

Heck yes! If you have the LT then you know all about the build quality and what to appreciate on the Heavyweight. And good on them for doing the right thing and keeping things clean! Thanks for the nice note!!

Stoked on your nano air! It’s a great jacket. But you’re right, the Atom cuffs are just so nice. Thanks for the note!

I think you are on for the long term use. I wash the heck out of my gear often, so perhaps I get some extra life out of them. But down will (in my opinion) always outlast synthetic. I have some Montbell bags from well over a decade ago that are still going strong. For down, I wash in Nikwax down wash, then down proof to add a DWR to the feathers. This 1) keeps the down from wetting out 2) makes it easier to maintain over its life. Thanks for the great questions and for being part of our team!!

Heck yes! Thanks for sharing your experience with both of these. Love it! Take care!

Hey! Thanks for the nice note! You cant go wrong with the heavyweight. I like the lightweight for active use or static use in warmer temps.

Ultra isn’t the best for that. Get a garmin forerunner 255 or up and that’ll do everything that you need. Or if you’re doing more than just running then epix/fenix

@@jaroslavbela677 currently saving up for an omega so don't want to spend too much on a watch. What are your thoughts on the coros pace 3?

Hey buddy! Thanks for the nice note. I am not the best resource for running watches. I do LOVE the Ultra watch for tracking heart rate, HRV, O2, sleep, and other metrics. But I do not have experience with running in it. I am sure our tribe can chime in to help out, though!

@@GatorAidMedical coros makes good watches from what I’ve heard and seen. Personally not a massive fan and I do prefer Apple and garmin but the coros is still a great watch. Funnily enough I use the pace 3 band on my garmin. What omega are you looking at getting?

@@jaroslavbela677 looking at either the seamaster 300 white dial or the aqua terra

Great question! I can put a video together on that comparison. I feel like the atom heavyweight is a bit warmer and the hood is more adjustable.

Hello friend!! Thank you for the nice note. I think the HW will treat you better with that range of temps. I LOVE the LT for temps in the 40-50f. But if I am using just a t shirt and the temps are around freezing or colder, then the HW is better. Hope that helps!

@@Engearment thank you!! So much i wil check them out at our local store! And try them both out but definitely opting for the HW like you said again thanks so much!! I probably will get both of them either way one for now and the other in the near future haha ◡̈

Good call on the double zipper. That is why I was wanting to mention that in the video. I think they would make a lot of people happy with that simple addition. An option might be the MH Phantom and treating it with Nikwax Down Proof to get the water repellency. Just an idea :). But lets see if we can inspire a brand to actually make that set up!

@@Engearmentit would be great to have a company step up and incorporate the best of all the technologies. Outdoor Vitals seems to be the only company really pushing the envelope on gear. I don’t think it would be that hard… all the technology exists in jackets already.

​​⁠well said. I was actually planning heading on a trip with OV in March to test out gear and camp (but we are closing on our new home at the same time) So I can’t join them. But, I agree with you that they are doing really incredible things over there. And at a very fair price point. Glad you are a fan of their gear too 😊

@@Engearment I watched your Patagonia down sweater hoody review. It would be about perfect with treated down and a double front zipper. One can dream I guess.

Ohh dang. I did not know there was an update to the membrane. I will look into that.

@@Engearment It is an REI member exclusive right now, I think.

Good call on that setup 🙌😎

WOW. That stinks. I think you are among the first that I have heard from that the Atom is not very breathable. I have not had it in Scotland, so I can not say. But it has been very breathable in Colorado.

@Engearment might be the higher humidity here even when's its really cold.

Exactly, same opinion here. Not a good active insulation item at all in Taiwan, humid island weather. The Atom LT is also not warm enough for 40 F degree in Taiwan. When it’s raining and windy, which is typical winter Taipei mountain weather, the Atom LT cannot compete with Black Diamond First Light hoody at all in terms of breathability and warmth. I don’t really consider Atom a good insulation piece for high intensity activity here, unfortunately. It is not warm enough and it is not breathable enough either. It is lighter and more packable than then Black Diamond though. It also has a nicer fit for men. For women, Patagonia and Montbell offer better fit for shorter Asian woman in my opinion.