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@marlindykman90818 күн бұрын
Stay with the setups you have
@johndantice257716 күн бұрын
Sometime in the future when you change the packaging from three twine 90 pound bales to two twine 40 pound bales this Arcusin machine has potential.
@jeffcrivelli290617 күн бұрын
I’m sure there’s times/situations where this machine/system would be beneficial but as with most European equipment, they just can’t handle the volume. As far as transport, they have different weight/ height/length restrictions for their trucks than we do. In fact, they do a lot with just farm tractors on the road! Thanks for the video!
@jefflawsonqwest17 күн бұрын
I like the 14 bale count. Plus it’s the same size as a 3x3 square bale, I believe.
@funnywolffarm2 күн бұрын
The operation seems very inefficient - please post another video explaining why this process is beneficial. Thanks for the video
@jeremytrumble234114 күн бұрын
We got a new Kuhn's 510F tie grabber this year. Same challenges with the length's of the bale and height's however with some adjusts it has become the greatest invention since the Autopilot!
@lucdelanoy729618 күн бұрын
I have to agree with Btian. Stick with what works.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
But what works best for my customers.
@kellypage71873 күн бұрын
Good thing for transport lock for roading farm equipment down the road from the farmyard to the farm field
@BorlenCattleCompany17 күн бұрын
Continue to use your current setup. If you're going to go after new sales because you have extra hay to sell, then make your own bundles to load into a van trailer. Loaded with a forklift.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch17 күн бұрын
But how do I make my own bundles that are tight enough equipment can grab them? If anything, buy this thing, then run it stationary.
@nickjewart935117 күн бұрын
I think there would be lots of people who would buy these bundles. They would be easy to move around with equipment they already own. Those 3 string bales are heavy even for the "average" person.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch17 күн бұрын
I agree with you 100%!
@friendlyfarmer34415 күн бұрын
I use to do 16x18 two string x4+ feet long with my home made spear squeeze on bobcat articulated, stacked with 1049 NH only two wide, load my step deck myself 14f hi about 100 inch wide, my customers didn't want a secondary set of bundle string it was awesome no finger print but to slow to bale now 3x3 with same h m squeeze straw n alfalfa hay
@albertlabrouche15918 күн бұрын
Arcusin is a cool set up. Gotta do alotta hay to pay for one though. Thank god ya pulled it with a Deere.😁
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
Bahahaha.
@andrewleimgruber58717 күн бұрын
Maybe this is what the 14” chambered 3 string bale was made for. Did you haul any bundle blocks with retriever?
@Rooftopmatty16 күн бұрын
I understand the purpose it has and understand the thought of the design and everything behind it I can’t knock it one bit at all, it’s got its purpose for the right operation and yours is focused on a different direction and unless you wanna take that million dollar gamble is up to you not us we arnt signing the cheques. My two cents in my area as someone who would buy it and sell it this set up would be great, we could run step decks, 2 high on the front and 3 high on the back every farmer has a tractor or skiddy to unload in 20 minutes
@BalesHayFarmandRanch16 күн бұрын
Our operation is focused on selling a product. There are thousands of people and businesses that cannot purchase our products, because they cannot unload. There are very few squeezes in the country. There are a lot of little loaders, like you said. Easy to unload. So you are correct, our old way is faster, and more efficient. But this way opens the door on who can now purchase our product.
@billjohnston408817 күн бұрын
Are you to maximum length for truck and trailer and weight wise? If not add a foot to the front and back of each trailer and make your hitch on the back trailer a little longer
@eleuteriodiaz365316 күн бұрын
Have you put pencil to paper and figured out if it’s cost effective. When will you be able to make up the equipment investment. Looks cool. Long gone are the days of hiring high school kids to work for some spending money.
@sln965117 күн бұрын
I may have missed something but you said 97-98" long and it looked slightly narrower as 2 wide. You might only have 96" wide trailers but 102" wide is legal basically everywhere. There may be a few locations that still say 96" but almost every trailer built today is 102 wide. Maybe a west coast guy can step in and clarify if the doubles makes a difference on some of the smaller roads but as far as I know, it shouldn't. For example technically 96 wide and over 65' long needs permits in NYC. Every 48'+ open deck or van is longer and wider than that but nobody abides by those ancient rules.
@jtn-minn810517 күн бұрын
Steamed bales or marginal moisture bales packed in bundles, more prone the heating compared to loose singles that can breath?
@BalesHayFarmandRanch17 күн бұрын
Ehhh. It’s 14 bales together. The other way is 64 bales. Less airflow. But maybe. Hard to say.
@johnbucklerfarms18 күн бұрын
Hey Trevor! Is it Hot yet!🤣🤣🤣
@PMB-5807917 күн бұрын
My man Clint @ All Stock Hay runs the Arcusin. Check out video and channel 🤙🏼
@smitty912018 күн бұрын
Would it be feasable to run 48' or 53' stepdecks instead of the double strait decks?
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
No. We get 64 foot of deck space by running doubles with cheaters.
@smitty912018 күн бұрын
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch oh ok i wasnt sure since you were concerend about the height on your trailers maybe you could stack another row on the bottom deck and gain more bales per load. I was also curious why you never demo a triple mower setup instead of 1 self proppeled i feel like it would cut your time in half? Just curious anyway
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
@@smitty9120 I could be wrong, but I haven’t seen a triple mower with double crimpers. I also don’t like the inconsistency. I know there are some double mowers I would like to try out with crimpers.
@smitty912018 күн бұрын
Interesting, its always nice to have a different perspective im surrounded by big dairys and they all been switching to triple mowers but they're obviously chopping so thats a whole different ball game
@dominicdahlheimer686118 күн бұрын
How many total feet of of string are involved in a "regular" bundle compared to this "new" bundle?
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
What is a regular bundle? There is no bundle for 3 strings.
@farmallskittle17 күн бұрын
how much longer can you make your trailers legally like what if you add a rack to the back like guys that haul roundbales
@nmwelder699418 күн бұрын
The bundles of hay are a way better method of getting hay put together. The bale bandit is the one I run.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
For our use, I disagree. Our system for us is extremely efficient. In a 12 hour day, we’re baling, stacking, hauling and storing 6,000 to 9,000 in a day. This bundler is 100% for the benefit of customers unloading and handling at their end.
@nmwelder699418 күн бұрын
That’s a fair point. My main problem with my operation is there’s only me and one other person. The bale bandit is being pulled behind the baler. It mainly benefits us from the lack of man power. What you have been doing until this demo works out for your operation. It doesn’t fit the operation I run.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
That, and they don’t do three string bales. I’d love to give them a try.
@justinwiatrek186417 күн бұрын
I know your area specializes in the 3 string bales. Would it ever be worth looking into changing over to two string balers and a bale baron? The two string are easier to handle by hand and the 21 bale bundles would handle like the big bales you sell for others. The baron bundles are so tight that feed stores can handle with a normal fork lift they already have completely eliminating the need for specialized equipment on the receiving end. Bundles also fit perfectly in van trailers. I personally only do a small volume of small coastal squares using a Steffens system accumulator and grapple. I struggle to compete with the convenience other producers offer in the local area by selling baron bundles. Huge expenses but may open up new market opportunities for your farm.
@mikerobinson170817 күн бұрын
That machine does both two and three tie bales. It's just a pain to switch it from one to the other. They really need to redesign that part.
@mikerobinson170817 күн бұрын
That machine does both three tie and two tie bales. Just a big pain to switch from one to the other
@justinwiatrek186417 күн бұрын
I was referring to changing to two string baler to use the marcrest bale baron that bundles 14” x 18” bales into 21 bale packages. It is at least twice as fast at building bundles as the arcusin multipack shown in this video. Trevor was saying the 14 bale 3 string bundles didn’t fit the truck as well. The small bale bundles fix the shipping issue
@BalesHayFarmandRanch16 күн бұрын
I have crunched the numbers several times. With the volume we do, it would be extremely difficult to go to a 2 string system. And at current prices, we’d be going backwards.
@justinwiatrek186415 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing, was just curious if it was something that would make business sense
@magmaxgus17 күн бұрын
You're messin with Brian's Cheese. Let us know how that works out for ya!
@scottbrooks566214 күн бұрын
Does the bale bandit have a model that works with your size bales
@BalesHayFarmandRanch14 күн бұрын
No, they do not.
@Jamierecc17 күн бұрын
Ever thought about trying a Baron?
@gregjames507017 күн бұрын
Bale baron doesn’t work with three string bales.
@billybobs84114 күн бұрын
Never seen 1 of them b4
@JoaoPires-pd9ot18 күн бұрын
Oi 👍👍👍👍✌️
@taurus420517 күн бұрын
I’m no expert and I realize it so I have no unsolicited advice to give you in the comments about how to run your business. 😂😂😂😂😂 Have a great day!!!!
@BalesHayFarmandRanch17 күн бұрын
lol you too!! You can always ask why? Benefits?
@zanjero18 күн бұрын
How is this better than a harrowbed?
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
It’s not. It’s better for the receiver.
@mikerobinson170817 күн бұрын
Stacks better. The bundles are a lot easier to load on trucks.
@johnbucklerfarms18 күн бұрын
Why? Don’t Change anything! More $$$$$ extra Twine! Brian is a Smart Man! Sloppy Stack!
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
I agree. But think about this. How many people across the country have squeezes? How many people have a grapple? How many people have a grapple that can go 14 feet high? Now, how many people have a little loader with spikes that can go 12 foot high? I can broaden my market to people that could never purchase from me in the past. Trust me, I’ve thought about this a lot.
@johnbucklerfarms18 күн бұрын
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch can a Stack of 2 Fit inside a Shipping Container?
@joeschindler449418 күн бұрын
That looks like you're losing a lot of leaves.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
Maybe .001%. The hay has already been baled. So what you see falling off is just a little visual. Nothing comes out of the bale. It does look bad though, doesn’t it! Really beats the bale up.
@JeffStewart78..16 күн бұрын
Whats the purpose of the bundles?
@BalesHayFarmandRanch16 күн бұрын
Makes it a lot easier for the receiver to unload.
@richkramer277716 күн бұрын
mite work for two stringers better but still slow. the balewagon is made in USA
@chrismusix56695 күн бұрын
Bale math.
@Noname7733118 күн бұрын
🤔🤔🤔
@johndantice257717 күн бұрын
I thought edge bales were 15 inch wide x 6 equals 90 not 96
@BalesHayFarmandRanch17 күн бұрын
These are 7 wide. They didn’t have the kit to go 6.
@beavernw701717 күн бұрын
Too slow it seems. When Mother Nature is coming this would be in the equipment yard. Bring out the stackers and get it done ✅
@krisrichey478517 күн бұрын
Instead of buying more hay technology take ot from me... bou property and plant walnut trees in Dolan springs 😊
@SouthernFarmingTV18 күн бұрын
Made it first . Stitting in the 4030R
@huntingandstuff948917 күн бұрын
Doesn't look like too bad of a setup. I was gonna suggest if you do more live videos to get some moderators. Helps to keep the trolls and such out. Like the guy wanting you to say nea ger which was just trying to get you to say the n word
@BalesHayFarmandRanch17 күн бұрын
Yeah, jerk. Oh well. They will always be around.
@huntingandstuff948917 күн бұрын
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch pretty well unavoidable
@quercusrubra77717 күн бұрын
That looks like a complicated, high maintenance machine.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch17 күн бұрын
No more than our current equipment. I agree though, one more thing to learn….
@AGRICOLADELGALLEGO17 күн бұрын
Que te parece la máquina de mi país,aquí llevan 30 años con su evolución pero el ganadero prefiere ya el paquete grande 80x80,120 x70,120x90 cm ,además aquí tienes prohibido circular en tandem tractor -empacadora-agrupador. Está misma empresa copio y mejoro el recogedor de pacas NEW HOLLAND con los que trabajas
@HectorRamirez-hf7fj15 күн бұрын
So what is the purpose of this thing? Fuel is the most important thing of any operation it seems to me that you adding an extra piece of equipment and another operator.. you still had to bring in a harrow bed? Im confused!
@BalesHayFarmandRanch15 күн бұрын
You are 100% correct. But you are only thinking about 1/2 the process. You are thinking like a producer. Think like the consumer. This is 100% for the buyer/person unloading the bundles. Very very very few people can quickly and efficiently unload hay the way we ship it. With these bundles, it takes a forklift or a front end loader with pallet forks or spears. This potentially opens my market. I could sale hay to a lot more people now! You are not wrong though. A lot of extra costs.
@johnblevins303418 күн бұрын
Your loosing leaves and you can't make a nother way to stack the balls and it's slower
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
I agree, But I’m opening my market by 500%. Now instead of have 2,000 or 3,000 tons left over, I can sell hay to people that normally, could not buy 3 string bales from me.
@johnblevins303417 күн бұрын
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch I understand that but what I was trying to get at is now you may have to have a little longer trailer for the small Bale's with 3 strings. I don't mind buying 3 or 2 string Bales or even the big Bale's because I am thinking about buying maybe 8 bales
@johnbucklerfarms18 күн бұрын
Your loosing Leaves!
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
Not that much. Just that outer edge. .001% maybe?
@gregjames507017 күн бұрын
We don’t listen to people that don’t know the difference between your and you’re.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch17 күн бұрын
@@gregjames5070could be auto correct. You wouldn’t believe the things my phone changes.
@philipfleming354618 күн бұрын
Sorry to say they are not packed as tight as the way you now do it. To many little problems, they need to fix it or don't buy it. Old saying, "If old method not Broke, DON'T CHANGE IT.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
It’s not that the old method is broke? It’s that, only 20% of the country can unload the old method. This opens up more customers for us.
@1hasbeen53117 күн бұрын
Not enough upside IMHO.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch17 күн бұрын
The only upside is opening my market. Now anyone with a little loader and spears can unload. In a down market, this helps me move hay to new customers.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch17 күн бұрын
You are right though, extra work, extra costs.
@1hasbeen53116 күн бұрын
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch I totally can see your vision, but what's the payback time. My Dad's philosophy when times were tough was to pull your horns in, and stick to what works, take care of the customer base who got you where you are. Not much of a gambler, I guess ;-)
@BalesHayFarmandRanch16 күн бұрын
I agree, unfortunately there is a lot of alfalfa on the market. I am competing with everyone around me. I see a new opportunity of finding new customers. And sending hay to people that could never purchase it in the past.
@doug188317 күн бұрын
Nice machine and all but.. look at all of the loss you guys had with way too much movement of those bales.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch17 күн бұрын
If you think about it, all that lose isn’t even .5% It’s just that outer edge that gets scratched up. I agree though, it looks terrible as it picks it up.
@rand0mghost92818 күн бұрын
Bale baron is faster and better
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
I’d love for bale baron to make something for 3 strings. I’d try it out too!
Marcrest just released a 3 string baler for the Bale Baron in February
@BalesHayFarmandRanch12 күн бұрын
@@davidhorst6343 is the exact same small bale, just with a 3rd string. It’s still too slow for us. It’s a beast of a machine though. It’s built really really well.
@bobstratton636217 күн бұрын
Extra tractor, extra employee, extra string expense, extra step. Nah.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch17 күн бұрын
But think of all the extra customers that can now unload with a medium sized loader and spears. Unload 500 bales in 45 mins and stack them in a barn and not have to hand stack. It has value on the other end. Not my end.
@bobstratton636217 күн бұрын
Hopefully then you’re saying increased sales?
@harveystephens611518 күн бұрын
Stacking and handling not working to your standards. Your current system seems much better
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
But what’s better for the buyer? Receiver?
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
I do agree with you for my end.
@salesshorelinerental16 күн бұрын
Waaaaaaaay too much Trevor face time.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch16 күн бұрын
Sorry. Sometimes things need explaining?
@Nova_416218 күн бұрын
I dont like it. It changes everything, not worth it.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch18 күн бұрын
But what if I can charge more, and sell all my hay, instead of have thousands of tons left over?
@Nova_416217 күн бұрын
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch That's a fair point. I was thinking short term wise, you've gotta change all trailers, stackers, squeezes and whatever else I'm sure there's a few things I'm forgetting lol. Also you'd be changing all the math in the barns and probably at all the presses as well, not super sure on that one. But If you can get all that priced out you'll be able to figure out if its worth doing. I'd also recommend talking to your customers and get their input.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch17 күн бұрын
The math is easy in the barns, the squeeze doesn’t change, the retriever doesn’t change. My point is, you can be the most efficient farm in the country. Do everything cheaper than anyone else, but your customers can’t handle, or unload your product. At the end of the day, what is best for the end user?
@Nova_416216 күн бұрын
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch yeah just gotta talk to the customers about it!
@user-gz7kb7yq9p15 күн бұрын
Go back to drawing board please. That machine is just crap.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch15 күн бұрын
I don’t mind constructive discussion. But were you physically here watching it run? It’s a great idea, it needs some work. But every great piece of equipment had to start somewhere.
@BalesHayFarmandRanch14 күн бұрын
@@user-gz7kb7yq9plol I didn’t build it! Why are you yelling at me!??